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May 22, 2014

Prospects Will Break Your Heart

What Did I Miss: Brandon Nimmo

by Jason Parks

The 2011 amateur draft was a talent smorgasbord that could satisfy the most esurient of appetites, the significance of which we are only beginning to scratch the surface of. Starting up top with Pirates’ ace Gerrit Cole, the players taken in the first round read like a who’s who for the next generation of baseball—names like Bundy, Bradley, Lindor, Baez, Fernandez, Gray, Meyer, Springer, and Stephenson. Sandwiched between these hyped warriors of the future is Brandon Nimmo, the 13th overall selection in the class, taken right after Taylor Jungmann and right before Jose Fernandez. At the time, Nimmo was a relatively unknown prospect from the relatively unknown state of Wyoming, a player without a high school team and a narrative that was more focused on his lack of playing experience than his exploits. At the time, it was a head scratcher given the talent still available on the board, and even years later the revisionist commentary has been easy to come by. Brandon Nimmo over Jose Fernandez? Really?

I first put eyes on Brandon Nimmo in the summer of 2012 in the New York-Penn League, and despite recognizing and appreciating his obvious athleticism, I didn’t see a first-division type. In August of that year, I wrote the following about Nimmo, after a long summer of watching him in Brooklyn:

“Excellent physical profile; plus athlete; very strong top half; wide/angular shoulders; fluid movements/coordination; at the plate, very high hands in setup (above shoulder blade); long journey to get into hitting position (has to drop down before going back); loses some bat control and swing efficiency; in FB counts, has a tendency to trigger early; off-speed exploitation as consequence; shows quality bat speed; can square velocity; shows ability to use all fields; good hip movements; good hands; easy pull-side power; swing has slightly elevated plane; 4 present/High-5 future power; not as sold on hit tool, which is present 3/future 5; good overall approach; seems to track pitches well; uses plus speed well, but mistake-prone with routes and angles in center; more raw athlete than instinctual defensive player; arm is average; better defensive profile in a corner (probably LF); shows all five tools; potential for average hit, average power, plus run, average arm, and average glove; possible role 5 player in majors; really nice young player with upside, but not a first-division talent.”

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Is romantic love of this sort even allowed in baseball? I read and then reread this piece, and almost none of it made sense. This is worrisome, given that I drafted Tapia in two Scoresheet leagues on your recommendation.

May 22, 2014 04:26 AM
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BP staff member Jason Parks
BP staff

Do not worry about Tapia. He's still a stud.

May 22, 2014 06:32 AM
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Nimmo is in High-A yet you already admit that you "missed" on him. Let him be effective in MLB first before saying this.

May 22, 2014 05:16 AM
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"it’s certainly too early to suggest my tweener projection has fallen short of the mark based on his solid run in the Florida State League to start 2014." . . . not sure how he is saying he "missed"

May 22, 2014 05:45 AM
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Lloyd Cole

I appreciate that you are serious about what you do, and are willing to reflect critically on how you do it AND share the results with your readers. Thanks.

May 22, 2014 05:54 AM
rating: 11

Interesting reflections.

May 22, 2014 05:56 AM
rating: 0

One of the best pieces you've written Jason.

May 22, 2014 06:20 AM
rating: 5
BP staff member Jason Parks
BP staff

Wow. Thanks for the comment. Appreciate it.

May 22, 2014 06:33 AM
Andrew G.


May 22, 2014 06:57 AM
rating: 0

Really great piece. It's always interesting to see how a scout thinks and the process and biases that are involved in evaluating a young player. Thanks and keep up the great work!

May 22, 2014 09:19 AM
rating: 1

Great piece Jason, I think it's fantastic for people to do self reviews on themselves. Shows a lot of #want. Anyhow, obviously over the course of researching this you have at least somewhat changed your perception of Nimmo and I'm wondering what is it that changed? Do you now view his tools as higher now that potential bias is off? Do you now view his ceiling as being higher? Speaking of which, what do you think his ultimate ceiling is?

May 22, 2014 06:56 AM
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BP staff member Jason Parks
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Thanks. Honestly, I'm not sure that my opinion has changed a great deal (individually), but it has relationally, if that makes any sense. I really thought Jeff Moore nailed his scouting report, putting a 5 on the floor and a 6 on the ceiling. That's completely fair and reasonable, and even though I'm still thinking he might have a tweener future, I can see and accept this outcome based on the updated reports from this season. Given that outcome, he should not only be ranked higher in the Mets system but also nationally. Not sure he's a top 101 guy for me yet, but I think he has a better case than I have admitted in the past, and I will make sure to keep that in mind when I start to put together such lists.

May 22, 2014 07:42 AM

Best of luck on the pending nuptials. How does Nimmo's rawness express itself on the field? I usually equate rawness with swinging at every pitch, being confused on the bases, not throwing to the correct bases. Obviously Nimmo does not swing at every pitch so where does the rawness translate to on field actions?

May 22, 2014 07:42 AM
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BP staff member Jason Parks
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Inconsistent tool utility. Keeps improving on this front. Always put good ABs together. Reads/routes aren't always crisp; can get passive at the plate and mis opportunities to drive mistakes; general execution issues. To be expected with a young player, but he is better than his initial rawness would suggest. He can play baseball.

May 22, 2014 07:48 AM

Your ability to reflect on your past experiences will serve you well. Nice work.
Of all your 'misses', I don't think this is going to be a big one. He does not have significant speed or power and his hit tool, which is his only real value, is buoyed by a BABIP well over .400 for the second year running. He sounds like he has the absolute upside of Mark Kotsay.

May 22, 2014 08:18 AM
rating: -1

You have a superfluous, dangling "of" in your first sentence.

May 22, 2014 08:33 AM
rating: 1
BP staff member Jason Parks
BP staff

"Real tomato ketchup, Eddie?"

May 22, 2014 09:13 AM

And you didn't even comment on the "high-floor floor" line?

May 22, 2014 13:08 PM
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When teams are scouting players for the draft, do they send different scouts to view players to counteract this type of bias, or do they just trust their people and realize they may miss on a few good players? Also, since you're feeling so positive, can you find something nice to say about Jungmann?

May 22, 2014 11:28 AM
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BP staff member Jason Parks
BP staff

I think any team that makes a point to put a variety of skilled eyes on players will benefit as a result. Each scout is going to see the game through a different subjective lens based on their previous experience with the game, and diversity of opinion should be paramount to any high dollar decision.

Jungmann has been better this season, but the profile is still more of a backend starter/long man than the player the Brewers thought they were getting in the draft.

May 22, 2014 11:34 AM

This kind of systematic review of your process earns you the title Professor. Definitely continue with these reflection pieces when they come to mind.

May 22, 2014 13:24 PM
rating: 1

Wonderful article. Good reminder that it's impossible to be truly "objective", and try as we might there are some players we just like more than others, often without rational evidence to support our feelings.

May 22, 2014 13:53 PM
rating: 1

To be fair, Nimmo is / was a more difficult prospect to judge, not only based on his background, lack of playing HS ball as an Amateur to playing in two home parks in Brooklyn and Savannah that tend to destroy LH hitters. Then he came to spring training 2013 in much better physical shape, batted .400 over tthe first three weeks and then got the hand injury that after trying to play through it, going 1 for 27, cost him over a month and pretty zapped his bat speed for most if not all the rest of 2013. Nimmo then came to spring training of 2014 in far better physical shape, more muscular and certainly stronger. The results have been impressive so far - not only the high line drive rate / BA together with leading the minors in BB but also the fact that he has managed to massively cut down on the strikeouts in the process at the higher level.

The big question probably revolves around his power (potential). And maybe Nimmo gets selected to the Futures Game yet again in 2014 and Professor Parks receives another look in the cage. Will the bat speed look different then ?

May 22, 2014 21:59 PM
rating: 2

Great piece. Learned tons from it. The kid seems easy to root for too. Raw talent, no high school team, no scouts to fawn over him (except some desperate dude from Flushing). Not exactly Sidd Finch, but ....

Anyway, from a team perspective, I wonder if it's sometimes too easy to knock an organization for a selection by using a quick compare (Nimmo v. Fdz, etc.) that perhaps fails to put the situation -- & thus, the player himself -- in proper context. I think this was the first dePodesta/Alderson draft, which followed a period of lackluster, conservative ones (relievers going in early rounds twice in a row, that kind of stuff). If I'm not mistaken, the system was more than lacking in high ceiling, young, athletic position players. Nimmo looked/looks risky, no doubt. Cecellini & Smith too, for that matter. But maybe we should begin to give dePodesta & his team credit (full jury is still out, sure) for assuming the risks to try to fill some big gaps.

May 23, 2014 00:01 AM
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