CSS Button No Image Css3Menu.com

Baseball Prospectus home
  
  
Click here to log in Click here for forgotten password Click here to subscribe

<< Previous Article
Premium Article Future Shock: Rockies ... (01/04)
<< Previous Column
Wezen-Ball: A New Stad... (01/02)
Next Column >>
Wezen-Ball: Ruth and C... (01/05)
Next Article >>
Premium Article The Keeper Reaper: Sta... (01/05)

January 5, 2012

Wezen-Ball

The Descriptive HOF Ballot, 2011

by Larry Granillo

If you've read any baseball-related news over the past couple of weeks, then you know that it is Hall of Fame season. Writers, voters, and fans alike have been talking about the upcoming election all month, telling who they feel belongs in the Hall, who they voted for, why the other voters are idiots, how the Hall is overrated these days, why steroids have ruined baseball, why people are idiots for thinking steroids ruined baseball, and why Jack Morris is the key to the universe. It's exhausting.

I've avoided talking about the Hall of Fame vote here mostly because there isn't much new I can say. Yes, there are many, many terrible ballots from actual voters being published everyday and yes, the moralizing, justifying, and sanctifying is ear-achingly painful. But that's how the voting is every year and a few more impassioned (and brilliantly-written) pieces would just be whispers in the wind. It's sad to see Hall of Famers get yanked around by the morality police or just get ignored altogether, but at least there are plenty of writers out there calling the voters on it.

Still, the 2012 Hall of Fame inductees will be announced on Monday (if any), so it seemed important to get my vote in while I still had a chance. To do this, I'm falling back to the Descriptive Hall of Fame Ballot I devised last year.

The Descriptive Hall of Fame Ballot 2011

The ballot is divided into six fairly obvious categories (listed below). From there, the voter is told to place each of the 27 candidates into his appropriate category. A checkbox is provided to mark whether or not that player is being voted into the Hall. The categories are:

  • "Vote for him or I will physically harm you."
  • "He's not Babe Ruth, but that doesn't mean he wasn't great..."
  • "He's good, all right, but just how good?"
  • "O-VER-RATED!! Clap. Clap. Clap, Clap, Clap."
  • "I liked you, but we both know you're no Hall of Famer."
  • "How'd this guy get on the ballot?!"

I can't think of a more fun, honest way of describing your Hall of Fame voting than with this ballot. Where else do you get to put Juan Gonzalez and Jack Morris in the "O-VER-RATED!!" category? Or Tony Womack in the "How'd this guy get on the ballot?!" category? You can't get much more honest than that.

You can also see my choices for the Hall of Fame on the ballot. I stayed consistent with my ballot from last year (no rookie candidates jump out at me), though I did expand it to include Rafael Palmeiro, who I wavered on at the last second before. I also moved Jeff Bagwell into the "Vote for him or I will physically harm you" section because - well, you get the idea. The Palmeiro, Larry Walker, and Mark McGwire choices can all go in either of the two categories. They are each very much on the edge for me there.

Feel free to give us your descriptive Hall of Fame ballot below. I think you'll like it.

12 comments have been left for this article. (Click to hide comments)

BP Comment Quick Links

Greg Pizzo

Awesome, Larry!

Jan 06, 2012 04:25 AM
rating: 0
 
Schere

Fun stuff. I feel I must point out that a player could be both overrated and a clear HOF'er. Like Tony Gwynn, maybe.

Jan 06, 2012 07:48 AM
rating: 0
 
cdt719

Right. Tony Gwynn, Nolan Ryan, and Pete Rose probably all fall into that category.

Feb 01, 2012 07:52 AM
rating: 0
 
Michael
(736)

Nolan Ryan is another example of both overrated and a clear HOFer.

Some voters might want a 7th category for "May be qualified but steroid use clouds the issue." Obviously you don't agree with the premise behind that category, but I personally would put Raffy Palmeiro in that category.

Jan 06, 2012 08:04 AM
rating: 0
 
devine

Beautiful ballot.

Jan 07, 2012 09:52 AM
rating: 0
 
davinhbrown

Larry Walker? Rockies hitters have to get at least the same stigma as potential steriod users.

Jan 07, 2012 14:51 PM
rating: -1
 
JosephC

I don't know about "stigma," but discounting, sure. By raw OPS Larry Walker beats out Willie Mays, Ty Cobb and Hank Aaron.

Nobody thinks he belongs there, so you discount for the era and his Rockieness, and he ends up maybe in Duke Snider/Eddie Murray/Willie McCovey territory. That's a huge gap - but still a Hall of Famer.

Jan 07, 2012 20:35 PM
rating: 0
 
Tim Carvin

This is one of my favorite Hall of Fame columns I've read. I love Larry's approach on this one.

Jan 07, 2012 15:38 PM
rating: 0
 
CRP13

I can't say I disagree with your choices.

Jan 07, 2012 16:41 PM
rating: 0
 
BP staff member Jason Collette
BP staff

Tremendous

Jan 08, 2012 11:49 AM
 
mshopoff

You need to physically harm 44% of the electorate.

Jan 09, 2012 14:00 PM
rating: 0
 
Michael
(736)

More than that if you're a Tim Raines fan.

Jan 10, 2012 12:39 PM
rating: 0
 
You must be a Premium subscriber to post a comment.
Not a subscriber? Sign up today!
<< Previous Article
Premium Article Future Shock: Rockies ... (01/04)
<< Previous Column
Wezen-Ball: A New Stad... (01/02)
Next Column >>
Wezen-Ball: Ruth and C... (01/05)
Next Article >>
Premium Article The Keeper Reaper: Sta... (01/05)

RECENTLY AT BASEBALL PROSPECTUS
Premium Article Painting the Black: Pedro Alvarez's Trip Fro...
Premium Article Minor League Update: Games of Thursday, Apri...
Premium Article What You Need to Know: April 17, 2015
Going Yard: How Bryant Can Crush
The Call-Up: Kris Bryant
Premium Article Rubbing Mud: So You Want to Trade Your Draft...
BP Boston

MORE FROM JANUARY 5, 2012
Transaction Analysis: Sunk Costs and Changes...
Premium Article Prospects Will Break Your Heart: What Could ...
Premium Article Transaction Analysis: A Trio of Signings
Premium Article Resident Fantasy Genius: Crispy New Outfield...
Premium Article The Keeper Reaper: Starting Pitchers for 1/5...
The BP First Take: Thursday, January 5

MORE BY LARRY GRANILLO
2012-01-10 - Wezen-Ball: Ted Williams, Free Agent
2012-01-08 - Wezen-Ball: HOF Candidates as Prospects
2012-01-05 - Wezen-Ball: Ruth and Cobb Hit the Links
2012-01-05 - Wezen-Ball: The Descriptive HOF Ballot, 2011
2012-01-02 - Wezen-Ball: A New Stadium for a New Year
2011-12-22 - Wezen-Ball: Topps Celebrates Christmas Right
2011-12-19 - Wezen-Ball: The Greatest Comic Ever
More...

MORE WEZEN-BALL
2012-01-10 - Wezen-Ball: Ted Williams, Free Agent
2012-01-08 - Wezen-Ball: HOF Candidates as Prospects
2012-01-05 - Wezen-Ball: Ruth and Cobb Hit the Links
2012-01-05 - Wezen-Ball: The Descriptive HOF Ballot, 2011
2012-01-02 - Wezen-Ball: A New Stadium for a New Year
2011-12-22 - Wezen-Ball: Topps Celebrates Christmas Right
2011-12-19 - Wezen-Ball: The Greatest Comic Ever
More...