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Career Summary
Years PA AVG OBP SLG TAv WARP
12 4489 .279 .323 .425 .256 17.7
Birth Date11-22-1972
Height5' 10"
Weight185 lbs
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WARP Summary

Standard

YEAR TEAM AGE G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR TB BB SO HBP SF SH RBI SB CS AVG OBP SLG TAv VORP FRAA WARP
1998 NYN 25 15 23 22 2 7 1 0 0 8 1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 .318 .348 .364 .257 0.6 -0.1 0.1
1999 NYN 26 13 9 8 1 2 1 0 0 3 0 2 1 0 0 1 1 2 .250 .333 .375 .222 -0.6 0.0 -0.1
2000 NYN 27 149 529 488 63 142 23 1 17 218 30 60 3 8 0 62 5 11 .291 .331 .447 .269 24.9 2.2 2.5
2001 NYN 28 104 386 361 44 92 16 1 8 134 18 52 5 2 0 34 4 3 .255 .298 .371 .229 -2.3 0.6 -0.2
2002 COL 29 47 181 170 36 57 14 4 8 103 8 20 3 0 0 28 3 3 .335 .376 .606 .296 12.9 1.3 1.4
2002 NYN 29 87 300 275 33 78 6 3 8 114 21 34 1 1 2 31 4 1 .284 .336 .415 .276 17.7 -3.7 1.4
2003 COL 30 157 658 600 93 181 32 5 28 307 43 77 7 3 5 89 6 4 .302 .354 .512 .274 20.4 14.5 3.5
2004 SDN 31 143 511 458 57 119 17 4 8 168 43 56 4 4 2 55 2 0 .260 .326 .367 .243 12.5 12.2 2.4
2005 BOS 32 55 144 133 24 35 7 0 5 57 10 14 0 1 0 21 0 0 .263 .312 .429 .258 4.2 1.3 0.6
2005 OAK 32 69 291 275 38 74 9 1 13 124 14 33 0 2 0 42 0 1 .269 .302 .451 .261 8.8 4.5 1.3
2006 OAK 33 142 588 557 78 165 32 3 10 233 22 52 4 5 0 59 8 4 .296 .325 .418 .265 24.4 2.4 2.6
2007 BAL 34 131 470 434 48 111 21 5 7 163 22 42 3 6 5 58 5 2 .256 .292 .376 .242 -0.6 13.2 1.2
2008 BAL 35 127 363 338 41 82 10 2 7 117 22 53 1 0 2 41 8 1 .243 .291 .346 .216 -4.3 13.3 0.9
2010 COL 37 20 36 35 3 12 4 1 0 18 1 4 0 0 0 1 1 0 .343 .361 .514 .287 0.3 -0.1 0.0
Career12594489415456111571933011917672555033232165224732.279.323.425.256119.061.417.7

Advanced

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YEAR Team Lg G PA TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP BPF BRAA repLVL POS_ADJ FRAA BRR BVORP BWARP VORP WARP
1994 PTS A- 58 255 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .389 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1994 BIN AA 8 28 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .318 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1995 BIN AA 85 390 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .350 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1995 NOR AAA 50 215 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .247 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1996 SLU A+ 9 30 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .381 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1996 BIN AA 4 14 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .250 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1996 NOR AAA 55 168 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .336 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1998 NYN MLB 15 23 .257 .236 .313 .349 .235 .389 95 -0.1 0.6 -0.1 -0.1 -0.4 0.6 0.1 0.6 0.1
1998 SLU A+ 0 10 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .167 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1998 NOR AAA 0 349 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .288 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1999 NYN MLB 13 9 .222 .267 .348 .434 .258 .333 105 -0.4 0.2 0 0.0 -0.3 -0.6 -0.1 -0.6 -0.1
1999 SLU A+ 0 30 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .429 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1999 NOR AAA 0 157 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .390 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2000 NYN MLB 149 529 .269 .265 .337 .427 .258 .298 94 5.5 14.6 1.5 2.2 1.1 24.9 2.5 24.9 2.5
2001 NYN MLB 104 386 .229 .260 .325 .413 .256 .277 93 -13 10.4 1 0.6 0.7 -2.3 -0.2 -2.3 -0.2
2001 SLU A+ 4 20 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .400 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2002 COL MLB 47 181 .296 .254 .321 .399 .254 .345 114 6.9 4.6 -0.6 1.3 1.5 12.9 1.4 12.9 1.4
2002 NYN MLB 87 300 .276 .258 .325 .404 .256 .299 94 5.1 7.6 0.7 -3.7 2.3 17.7 1.4 17.7 1.4
2003 COL MLB 157 658 .274 .261 .329 .418 .260 .307 112 10.1 17.3 -4.3 14.5 -2.5 20.4 3.5 20.4 3.5
2004 SDN MLB 143 511 .243 .266 .334 .429 .262 .279 93 -9.6 15.2 1.1 12.2 0.3 12.5 2.4 12.5 2.4
2005 BOS MLB 55 144 .258 .261 .325 .418 .262 .261 106 -0.2 4.1 -0.9 1.3 0.5 4.2 0.6 4.2 0.6
2005 OAK MLB 69 291 .261 .261 .322 .413 .258 .264 99 0.3 8.4 -1.1 4.5 0.0 8.8 1.3 8.8 1.3
2006 OAK MLB 142 588 .265 .271 .335 .433 .258 .310 99 3.6 17.7 -3.2 2.4 3.1 24.4 2.6 24.4 2.6
2007 BAL MLB 131 470 .242 .265 .327 .415 .258 .266 101 -9.5 13.9 -2.8 13.2 -2.0 -0.6 1.2 -0.6 1.2
2007 NOR AAA 2 9 .406 .277 .360 .396 .280 .286 76 1.5 0.3 -0.1 -0.1 -0.1 1.6 0.1 1.6 0.1
2008 BAL MLB 127 363 .216 .259 .326 .406 .254 .270 106 -17.1 10.5 -1 13.3 1.9 -4.3 0.9 -4.3 0.9
2010 COL MLB 20 36 .287 .258 .317 .405 .268 .387 102 1 1.0 -0.2 -0.1 -1.2 0.3 0.0 0.3 0.0
2010 CSP AAA 116 470 .258 .278 .349 .433 .270 .351 111 -1.3 14.4 -3.6 -5.2 2.7 11.0 0.6 11.0 0.6

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG ISO TAv VORP FRAA WARP
1994 BIN AA 28 3 7 1 0 0 1 2 3 1 1 .280 .357 .320 .040 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1994 PTS A- 255 47 80 16 2 3 37 23 18 10 2 .365 .446 .498 .132 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1995 NOR AAA 215 33 47 11 4 4 30 11 22 11 3 .240 .282 .398 .158 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1995 BIN AA 390 59 123 20 3 14 54 29 32 16 7 .345 .397 .535 .190 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1996 NOR AAA 168 30 47 6 3 6 26 11 25 10 1 .307 .365 .503 .196 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1996 SLU A+ 30 4 8 2 0 0 1 4 5 2 1 .308 .400 .385 .077 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1996 BIN AA 14 0 2 0 0 0 2 2 2 0 1 .200 .333 .200 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1998 NOR AAA 349 45 84 14 4 8 30 26 50 12 7 .261 .318 .404 .143 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1998 SLU A+ 10 0 1 0 0 0 0 3 1 0 0 .143 .400 .143 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1998 NYN MLB 23 2 7 1 0 0 0 1 4 0 0 .318 .348 .364 .045 .257 0.6 -0.1 0.1
1999 NOR AAA 157 27 56 13 2 8 35 12 13 2 2 .389 .439 .674 .285 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1999 SLU A+ 30 3 9 1 1 0 3 4 5 0 1 .346 .433 .462 .115 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1999 NYN MLB 9 1 2 1 0 0 1 0 2 1 2 .250 .333 .375 .125 .222 -0.6 0.0 -0.1
2000 NYN MLB 529 63 142 23 1 17 62 30 60 5 11 .291 .331 .447 .156 .269 24.9 2.2 2.5
2001 SLU A+ 20 7 6 3 0 0 0 4 1 0 0 .375 .500 .562 .188 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
2001 NYN MLB 386 44 92 16 1 8 34 18 52 4 3 .255 .298 .371 .116 .229 -2.3 0.6 -0.2
2002 COL MLB 181 36 57 14 4 8 28 8 20 3 3 .335 .376 .606 .271 .296 12.9 1.3 1.4
2002 NYN MLB 300 33 78 6 3 8 31 21 34 4 1 .284 .336 .415 .131 .276 17.7 -3.7 1.4
2003 COL MLB 658 93 181 32 5 28 89 43 77 6 4 .302 .354 .512 .210 .274 20.4 14.5 3.5
2004 SDN MLB 511 57 119 17 4 8 55 43 56 2 0 .260 .326 .367 .107 .243 12.5 12.2 2.4
2005 BOS MLB 144 24 35 7 0 5 21 10 14 0 0 .263 .312 .429 .165 .258 4.2 1.3 0.6
2005 OAK MLB 291 38 74 9 1 13 42 14 33 0 1 .269 .302 .451 .182 .261 8.8 4.5 1.3
2006 OAK MLB 588 78 165 32 3 10 59 22 52 8 4 .296 .325 .418 .122 .265 24.4 2.4 2.6
2007 NOR AAA 9 3 2 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 .250 .333 .375 .125 .406 1.6 -0.1 0.1
2007 BAL MLB 470 48 111 21 5 7 58 22 42 5 2 .256 .292 .376 .120 .242 -0.6 13.2 1.2
2008 BAL MLB 363 41 82 10 2 7 41 22 53 8 1 .243 .291 .346 .104 .216 -4.3 13.3 0.9
2010 CSP AAA 470 62 142 36 5 6 74 25 47 13 3 .323 .365 .469 .146 .258 11.0 -5.2 0.6
2010 COL MLB 36 3 12 4 1 0 1 1 4 1 0 .343 .361 .514 .171 .287 0.3 -0.1 0.0

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT
2008 1213 0.5326 0.5202 0.8508 0.6687 0.3492 0.9097 0.7222 0.1444
2010 114 0.5702 0.4561 0.9423 0.6000 0.2653 0.9487 0.9231 0.0577
Career13270.53580.51470.85870.66280.3420.91310.73950.137

Injury History

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2010-07-25 2010-08-10 Minors 16 0 Left Trunk Contusion Ribs -
2009-01-01 2009-01-01 FA 0 0 Right Shoulder Surgery Labrum 2009-01-01
2007-03-27 2007-04-20 15-DL 24 15 Left Thigh Strain Hamstring -
2001-05-08 2001-06-26 15-DL 49 46 Right Thigh Strain Hamstring -
1999-04-05 1999-06-08 60-DL 64 57 Left Shoulder Recovery From Surgery Labrum and Instability 1999-01-06 -
1999-01-06 1999-01-06 Off 0 0 Left Shoulder Surgery Labrum and Instability 1999-01-06 -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2008 BAL $5,000,000
2007 BAL $4,500,000
2006 OAK $4,000,000
2005 BOS, OAK $3,500,000
2004 SDN $1,500,000
2003 COL $1,850,000
2002 NYN $362,500
2002 COL $362,500
2001 NYN $290,000
2000 NYN $215,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
9 yrPrevious$21,580,000
9 yrTotal$21,580,000

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
9 y 128 dCraig Landis

Details
  • signed as a free agent from BAL 1/21/10 (minor-league contract)
  • signed as a free agent from OAK 12/06, 2 year/$9.5M (07-08), 07:$4.5M, 08:$5M
  • $0.25M 1-time assignment bonus
  • awards: $50K All-Star ($25K All-Star select), $0.1M MVP, WS MVP, $50K Gold Glove, LCS MVP, $25K SS
  • club exercised $4M 06 option 10/05
  • acquired in trade from BOS 7/05 designated for assignment 7/05 acquired in trade from SD 12/04
  • signed as a free agent from COL 1/04, 2 year/$5.5M (04-05)+4M 06 club option, 04:$1.5M, 05:$3.5M, 06:$4M club option $0.5M buyout
  • avoided arbitration 1/03, 1 year/$1.85M (03)
  • acquired in trade from NYM 7/02 signed 3/02 1 year/$362,500 (02) 94 1-29

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DateQuestionAnswer
2009-02-10 14:00:00 (link to chat)Is Fernando Martinez the next Jay Payton and should the Mets sign Abreu to play in the outfield?
(mwashuc06 from Utica,NY)
I'm willing to give Omar Minaya a lot of credit for holding onto Martinez, but I also think there's no need to rush him to find out if he's just Jay Payton or perhaps closer to his top comp (the ubiquitous Bobby Abreu). As a result, I think it does make sense for the Mets to go get an additional outfielder, but that's in part because I wasn't a big Ryan Church fan before his mishaps, and I'm less so now. Filling one outfield corner with "staff" is fine, but both? (Christina Kahrl)
2009-01-22 13:00:00 (link to chat)What do you think of the Orioles chances this year, with the addition of Uehara and Pie?
(murber74 from Gaithersburg, MD)
I like both acquisitions. The Orioles need starting pitchers, because the cattle call behind Jeremy Guthrie doesn't engender very much confidence that this team can finish ahead of Norfolk, and because Uehara seems to be the cream of this year's Japanese import crop. As for Pie, I applaud the team's decision to acquire a player with legitimate upside instead of going the Jay Payton route -- the functional equivalent of taking the Barney-guarding job (http://www.snpp.com/episodes/3F14.html) -- and think that he'll benefit with the change of scenery, though putting his bat in left may present problems as it raises the offensive bar a bit.

Memo to the dude who's now submitted the Omar Vizquel question for the fourth time -- I've got it, and you're not improving your chances by clogging the chat queue, you're hurting them. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-07-24 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hey Christina, thanks as always for the chats and TA's. What do you think of the O's position (or posturing) of hanging onto Roberts and Sherrill through the deadline? I realize the "magical .500" may help with the fan-base..still, not sure if their value can be much higher.
(Tim from DC)
It's always hard with family-run outfits, because while I'd normally say ".500 will come with sensible long-term management," Andy MacPhail has to be only too aware of how many interoffice assassinations litter this franchise's recent past. If they're serious about themselves, and really dominating their market, they'll hold out for the best deal possible. Roberts isn't a rental, he's already under contract for 2009, and that's worth something (just as Teixeira was last year, for the same reason). Similarly, Sherrill's under control through arbitration for two more seasons; that's worth a lot the way reliever pricing is going. So it's worth it to the Orioles to listen, but it's also worth it to them to walk away, because these two will still have value in trade this winter, next spring, or at next year's deadline. Jay Payton and Kevin Millar, not so much, so if they can find takers, they should be in a giving mood. (Christina Kahrl)
2008-01-17 14:00:00 (link to chat)What is scarier, Tike Redman in center, or moving Markakis to center and playing Gibbons in the outfield?
(TGisriel from Baltimore)
Anything that involves 500 PA for Jay Payton is scarier than any of those things. (Christina Kahrl)


BP Roundtables

DateRoundtable NameComment
2008-10-02 11:00:00Thursday Playoff GamesAs Corey Hart takes one for the team...

"Mike (Jax, FL): Corey Hart has been more like Jay Payton lately then anyone I can recall. He's awful against any slider pitcher and seems lost since mid August. Am I crazy to want him moved down in the order?"

As bad as Hart has been over the last several weeks, I'd never saddle a player with a Payton comparison. I saw Payton make mistakes as a Met worthy of a stern lecture from a Little League coach, such as the time he ran from between second and third base back to first without touching second on a fly ball that was caught and was called out. (Jay Jaffe)
 

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