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Career Summary
Years PA AVG OBP SLG TAv WARP
11 3190 .214 .279 .357 .245 5.5
Birth Date9-26-1945
Height6' 2"
Weight190 lbs
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WARP Summary

Standard

YEAR TEAM AGE G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR TB BB SO HBP SF SH RBI SB CS AVG OBP SLG TAv VORP FRAA WARP
1964 KC1 18 25 55 53 2 9 0 1 1 14 2 20 0 0 0 5 0 0 .170 .200 .264 .163 -6.0 -0.6 -0.7
1967 KC1 21 34 106 101 9 19 4 0 5 38 4 50 0 0 1 11 0 1 .188 .219 .376 .245 0.5 0.5 0.1
1968 OAK 22 82 276 246 15 47 4 0 7 72 25 68 1 2 2 28 1 2 .191 .266 .293 .232 1.1 0.8 0.2
1969 OAK 23 58 150 127 11 16 3 0 3 28 19 41 0 2 2 22 0 0 .126 .236 .220 .193 -2.8 -0.6 -0.4
1970 OAK 24 86 258 232 21 60 7 0 10 97 22 38 0 2 2 29 0 0 .259 .320 .418 .275 15.7 0.0 1.7
1971 OAK 25 103 398 363 39 92 13 1 15 152 28 77 1 2 4 40 1 1 .253 .307 .419 .287 23.1 -1.0 2.5
1972 OAK 26 121 450 403 39 88 13 0 19 158 34 68 5 6 2 59 0 2 .218 .283 .392 .274 17.8 -0.4 2.1
1973 CLE 27 95 383 344 43 80 11 1 17 144 35 86 3 0 1 43 3 3 .233 .309 .419 .262 9.8 0.1 1.1
1974 CLE 28 136 474 425 45 85 10 1 16 145 42 91 2 2 3 46 0 4 .200 .274 .341 .227 1.1 -3.7 -0.3
1975 BAL 29 96 326 307 30 63 7 0 12 106 16 82 1 2 0 41 0 0 .205 .245 .345 .216 -1.1 -1.4 -0.3
1976 BAL 30 93 314 284 20 58 7 0 4 77 25 56 1 0 4 17 0 0 .204 .271 .271 .214 -6.1 1.0 -0.6
Career929319028852746177941091031252677141821341513.214.279.357.24553.2-5.15.5

Advanced

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg G PA TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP BPF BRAA repLVL POS_ADJ FRAA BRR BVORP BWARP VORP WARP
1964 KC1 MLB 25 55 .163 .223 .290 .339 .237 .250 105 -5 1.4 0.8 -0.6 -0.5 -6.0 -0.7 -6.0 -0.7
1967 KC1 MLB 34 106 .245 .234 .293 .350 .252 .304 95 -1.4 2.5 1.5 0.5 -0.1 0.5 0.1 0.5 0.1
1968 OAK MLB 82 276 .232 .233 .296 .341 .258 .231 93 -6.2 6.1 3.6 0.8 -1.4 1.1 0.2 1.1 0.2
1969 OAK MLB 58 150 .193 .260 .326 .389 .269 .153 95 -9.6 3.9 2.3 -0.6 1.3 -2.8 -0.4 -2.8 -0.4
1970 OAK MLB 86 258 .275 .251 .317 .378 .255 .269 94 3.9 7.0 4.1 0.0 -0.1 15.7 1.7 15.7 1.7
1971 OAK MLB 103 398 .287 .248 .315 .366 .260 .282 94 9.9 9.8 6 -1.0 -0.2 23.1 2.5 23.1 2.5
1972 OAK MLB 121 450 .274 .240 .304 .345 .253 .214 92 5.6 10.6 6.3 -0.4 -2.8 17.8 2.1 17.8 2.1
1973 CLE MLB 95 383 .262 .264 .327 .388 .265 .261 102 0.9 10.1 5 0.1 -4.1 9.8 1.1 9.8 1.1
1974 CLE MLB 136 474 .227 .260 .321 .373 .261 .216 100 -15.3 12.3 7.2 -3.7 -2.1 1.1 -0.3 1.1 -0.3
1975 BAL MLB 96 326 .216 .258 .324 .379 .260 .237 96 -14.2 8.6 5.1 -1.4 -2.3 -1.1 -0.3 -1.1 -0.3
1976 BAL MLB 93 314 .214 .253 .311 .355 .255 .241 93 -13.6 7.9 4.8 1.0 -2.9 -6.1 -0.6 -6.1 -0.6

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG ISO TAv VORP FRAA WARP
1964 KC1 MLB 55 2 9 0 1 1 5 2 20 0 0 .170 .200 .264 .094 .163 -6.0 -0.6 -0.7
1967 KC1 MLB 106 9 19 4 0 5 11 4 50 0 1 .188 .219 .376 .188 .245 0.5 0.5 0.1
1968 OAK MLB 276 15 47 4 0 7 28 25 68 1 2 .191 .266 .293 .102 .232 1.1 0.8 0.2
1969 OAK MLB 150 11 16 3 0 3 22 19 41 0 0 .126 .236 .220 .094 .193 -2.8 -0.6 -0.4
1970 OAK MLB 258 21 60 7 0 10 29 22 38 0 0 .259 .320 .418 .159 .275 15.7 0.0 1.7
1971 OAK MLB 398 39 92 13 1 15 40 28 77 1 1 .253 .307 .419 .165 .287 23.1 -1.0 2.5
1972 OAK MLB 450 39 88 13 0 19 59 34 68 0 2 .218 .283 .392 .174 .274 17.8 -0.4 2.1
1973 CLE MLB 383 43 80 11 1 17 43 35 86 3 3 .233 .309 .419 .186 .262 9.8 0.1 1.1
1974 CLE MLB 474 45 85 10 1 16 46 42 91 0 4 .200 .274 .341 .141 .227 1.1 -3.7 -0.3
1975 BAL MLB 326 30 63 7 0 12 41 16 82 0 0 .205 .245 .345 .140 .216 -1.1 -1.4 -0.3
1976 BAL MLB 314 20 58 7 0 4 17 25 56 0 0 .204 .271 .271 .067 .214 -6.1 1.0 -0.6

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT

Injury History

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
1973-06-29 1973-08-18 50 49 - Wrist Fracture - -

Compensation

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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2013-02-19 13:00:00 (link to chat)One name I can think of for the "primary position as a professional player was pitcher? Or vice versa" question is Dave Duncan. He was a hitter as a player but a great pitching coach.
(Justin from Chicago, IL)
Oh, of course, yes. Was primarily trying to think of pitchers who became hitting coaches. Catchers-turned-pitching coaches have been a bit more common, starting (maybe) with Wilbert Robinson. (Ben Lindbergh)
2012-09-28 13:00:00 (link to chat)I know you can never have too much pitching, but take a look at the Cardinals for a moment if you'd be so kind. What would you do with all those arms?
(Jeff from Springfield)
Jeff from Springfield, thanks for the question. Trust me, GM John Mozeliak does not think that he has too much pitching, because those words don't ever come out of a GM's mouth. The great thing it brings them is having options and being able to decide who fits in what role and who they can consider moving in a deal to get better. I don't think the Cardinals have received enough credit for what they have accomplished this year after losing a Hall of Fame manager in Tony LaRussa, the best pitching coach on the planet in Dave Duncan, and one of the great players of our generation in Albert Pujols. Plus, they come off a World Series title and have a rookie manager. That's pretty impressive. Rejoice in having options, Jeff. (Dan Evans)
2012-08-01 13:00:00 (link to chat)Thanks for your time, Dan! What is your favorite moment with the White Sox or a story you enjoy the most?
(Justin from Chicago)
Justin from Chicago...my favorite White Sox moment was the night we clinched the American League West Division title in 1983. The city had not had post-season baseball since 1959, and I grew up on the city's North Side and knew what it meant to the town. It was an exciting club that caught fire in the second half, and scored a then team-record 800 runs after we altered the park's dimensions. There was jubilation that night, and the respect for Roland Hemond being carried thru the clubhouse by his players is something I will never forget. I was exceptionally lucky to work with such a great bunch of people in my very early years there: among them Tony La Russa, Roland Hemond, Jerry Reinsdorf, Charley Lau, Dave Dombrowski, Bill Smith, Dave Duncan, George Bradley, Bob Fontaine, John Boles, Eddie Brinkman, and Jack Gould. It was an absolute great place to work and I could not wait to get to the ball park every day. (Dan Evans)
2012-08-01 13:00:00 (link to chat)What's your favorite baseball memory?
(Ida from Pasadena, CA)
Thanks for your questions Ida, I live in the same town! Easily my greatest baseball memory is August 4, 1985, when Tom Seaver won his 300th game at a sold-out Yankee Stadium. It was Tom's first attempt at winning 300, and it could not have been scripted any better. I was traveling with the club during that period of my career, and had developed a great relationship with Seaver, so it meant even more to me. We got off the bus and a fan screamed out, "Hey Seaver, I hope you break your arm out there today" and Tom was right next to me. It broke the ice for him, as he let out his signature laugh and yelled back "Thanks for all your support." It was Old Timer's Day at Yankee Stadium and all the great Yankees were in attendance like DiMaggio. New York baseball fans, who loved him during all those years with the Mets, were incredibly supportive throughout the game, and the old Stadium was electric due to his quest and the great Yankee oldtimers in pre-game. Pitching coach Dave Duncan came out to the mound in the later innings, and was greeted with boos from the crowd, but Tony La Russa was never going to take out Seaver unless he had to, it was his game to lose. Tom threw a complete game at age 40, which was amazing in itself, and it was such a perfect moment. We had a closed clubhouse afterwards for a few minutes after the game as Tom composed himself, and his class came out as he had a game-used baseball from #300 for every member of the traveling party. The players had such immense respect for him as he was such a great mind and had such an amazing career. I'll likely never be able to duplicate that afternoon. (Dan Evans)
2011-01-18 13:00:00 (link to chat)Good afternoon Marc ... thanks for the chat. Jaime Garcia .... is 2010 the best version of him to expect or is there room for growth?
(dianagramr from NYC)
I mentioned this a bit earlier, and it's why I didn't pick him up in a Scoresheet dispersal last week. He's really good, but I don't think he's going to be much better than he was (especially on the ERA side--that's going to come up even if the peripherals stay the same). Of course, Dave Duncan is in St. Louis, so Garcia will start to get 65% groundballs or something and dominate just because I said this. (Marc Normandin)
2010-11-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)"I haven't been wild about any deal so far this winter." Not even Jake Westbrook re-upping with St. Louis for2/$16.5M? They had a need, and how could they have filled it for less?
(Bill from New Mexico)
It's not a horrible deal if you can guarantee he'll be healthy, and he's a good fit with Dave Duncan, but the guy's got one 30-start season out of the last four. (Jay Jaffe)
2010-07-26 14:00:00 (link to chat)Ken, who you think are the best 3 managers in baseball?
(Zooey from LA)
Great question, and frankly, one I haven't really thought much about. Win-Loss records have so much more to do with the talent a manager's given than any innate skill the manager has. Was Joe Torre truly a great manager when he was in NYC? I can't say that I know. I guess if I were running a team I'd do my best to sign Tony LaRussa, assuming that Dave Duncan comes with him. My other two would be Bobby Cox and Ozzie Guillen, who never gets enough credit for how well he manages a pitching staff. Maybe I'm just voting for interesting managers! (Ken Funck)
2010-04-21 14:00:00 (link to chat)How often do we ever see a pitcher 'work on a new pitch' in spring training and see it actually pay off long term? I am thinking of Mike Pelfrey, who seems to be missing a lot of bats with his split-change this year. If he can get the K rate to around 7 per 9, he is a completely different pitcher.
(J.P. from Hartford)
In Chicago most White Sox pitchers are taught cutters, which helped turn Gavin Floyd and John Danks into legitimate front-mid rotation hurlers. That seems to be more organizational philosophy than, say, Cole Hamels working to learn a cutter this off-season. In St. Louis, Dave Duncan works his magic with sequencing and location moreso than new pitches, but to the same effect. I agree that we don't hear about true success stories with these newer pitches as much as the failures, but Big Pelf wouldn't be alone if his split-change remains effective. (Eric Seidman)
2010-04-21 14:00:00 (link to chat)How long before Brad Penny turns into a pumpkin?
(Bill from New Mexico)
I'm very bullish on Penny and have been for the last couple of years. Especially now that he's with Dave Duncan there is no reason to expect him to implode. It's easy to forget how good he was only three years ago, and from 2001-07 for that matter. I'll gladly take my chances on a guy who throws 95 and is now dedicating himself to inducing grounders. (Eric Seidman)
2010-03-24 11:00:00 (link to chat)I know there's just a limited amount of players who have gone to "Swing Doctor" Jamie Cevallos, it seems that he knows what he's doing and should be given a consultant job for some team(possibly for the Rays). Is it just a matter of time or are the Reds/Rays waiting to see if the results continue with Sutton, Ruggiano, Ashley and Zobrist?
(jlarsen from Chicago)
I'm surprised he hasn't been hired in some capacity by a team. He might simply prefer to work independently, because of personality or whatever.

Slightly relatedly, it's very hard to separate the causes for coaches like this. It's true the sample is still pretty small, but even when we have bigger samples (say like we did with Leo Mazzone or Dave Duncan), it remains hard to identify exactly the coach's contribution. (Tommy Bennett)
2010-03-17 14:00:00 (link to chat)Cardinals pitching prospect Jaime Garcia has looked downright evil this spring, but doesn't seem to be in serious consideration for the rotation, which definitely has a vacancy. What's going on, Christina? Flash-in-the-pan syndrome? Justifiable desire to hold the workload down for a TJ survivor? Or a noxious manifestation of Dave Duncan's aversion to working with young pitchers, particularly starters?
(Bill from New Mexico)
Hi Bill, always a pleasure to see you on the boards... I think it's very much a matter of politburo-style turnitis, in that it isn't his turn yet. He's having a great camp, he's coming back from injury, and especially because of April scheduling, I could see him spending the first month or two getting regular starts for Memphis. By June, we'll know if McClellan's calling for reinforcements (inevitable, if you ask any Civil War buff), or if Rich Hill's redeemable and that's just in the fifth spot. Duncan's deserved reputation or no, I'm just not that wild on bets that Kyle Lohse and Brad Penny will be totally fine, so I think Garcia's going to be put to work at some point this season. (Christina Kahrl)
2010-02-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)"Stagecoach" was one of the greatest movie of all time. John Wayne was terrific in it, but so was everyone else, plus the direction, story and scenery. Hard to put many other films in its class, period. And by the way, since you like Cards pitching: what do you think of Kyle McClellan becoming a fifth stater?
(gerrybraun from Red River)
Ever see the bad remake, with Bing Crosby? Nothing against Bing, who made some fine films... I like Kyle McClellan as a fifth starter more than I like Kyle Farnsworth as one. That said, his so-so control and low-ish strikeout rate sing middle reliever to me and suggest a guy who could have trouble getting through the lineup too many times. If anyone can make it work, though, it's Dave Duncan. (Steven Goldman)
2010-01-28 14:00:00 (link to chat)The Cardinals signed Rich Hill--any chance Dave Duncan can get his career off life support?
(dwiest12 from NoVA)
If anyone can and if his arm is sound, it's Duncan, and it isn't like Hill's that far removed from being a very good big-league pitcher. That said, questions about his arm and his head will have to be answered. I may have seemed overly flip in suggesting that he could be the Cards' third-best starter this year, but it was something of a poorly-put left-handed compliment, because Lohse has to come back and I'm not really wild about Brad Penny. (Christina Kahrl)
2010-01-26 14:00:00 (link to chat)Tommy- Your thoughts on the Cardinal off-season and how it sets them up for another run in the NL Central?
(Jake from St. Louis, MO)
I think the Cardinals are the clear favorites in their division. My biggest concern would be with their pitching, but whatever Dave Duncan does, it appears to work for them. (Tommy Bennett)
2009-12-15 14:00:00 (link to chat)Still a believer in Ben Sheets? Where do you think he'll wind up?
(Phil S. from NJ)
Absolutely, I'd rather put my money on Ben Sheets and a "maybe he's still that good" than Joel Pineiro and a "maybe he thrives away from Dave Duncan." But after the time away, I wonder if he wouldn't like to be on a contender. I could see him landing with the Dodgers on an incentive-laden deal after they clear up some of their arbitration issues and get a better sense of their own freedom of action. The Mets might be a similar sort of suitor. If he elects to change leagues, maybe Anaheim. (Christina Kahrl)
2009-11-24 13:00:00 (link to chat)Suppose you're Joel Pineiro and trying to decide which offer to grossly overpay you you're going to accept. If you're looking for another team with a pitching coach with the powers of a voodoo curse (let's face it, how else could Dave Duncan have done with Pineiro what he did?), which team, and which coach, do you find most appealing?
(Bill from New Mexico)
Pineiro is unlikely to sign somewhere because of a specific pitching coach. The Cards may have taken a chance on him given Duncan's super-powers, but I cannot foresee a situation in which he and his agent decide that Team X is the place to go because they have Pitching Coach Y, unless it involves the Cardinals being in the ballpark of other offers. This just has the feel of an eventual Mets overpay. (Eric Seidman)
2009-10-11 13:00:00 (link to chat)Do you think that Cardinals fans and Larussa himself were delusional for thinking that Joel Pineiro as the #3 starting pitcher would get them out the NLDS?
(Dan from Lexington-Concord)
Did they have a better option? They got to the playoffs on two good pitchers and just enough from the back half. Can they win next year without Dave Duncan spinning golden pitchers out of straw? (Will Carroll)
2009-10-06 13:30:00 (link to chat)John -- Do you think Tony LaRussa will be back with the Cardinals next year? How much of this is contingent on them signing Matt Holliday (of whom Tony is a huge fan)? Or on keeping Dave Duncan around?
(Matt from Chicago)
I think La Russa is staying, regardless of Holliday and Duncan. He seemed very content when I caught up him in early September, probably as content as I've ever seen him. I have a gut feeling if they win it all this year, he might retire. He didn't give any hints of that but it's just a suspicion I have. (John Perrotto)
2009-09-24 14:00:00 (link to chat)Do Dave Duncan's pitching philosophy, and every St. Louis pitcher behind Chris Carpenter and Adam Wainwright, lead Secret Sauce to underestimate the Cards' playoff chances?
(jalonzo from NYC)
I think the idea that any team is better than an 18-20% chance to win the World Series overestimates everyone's playoff chances. Secret Sauce is what it is, a formula based on the track record of successful teams. Everyone's favorite team not rated well by it is the exception. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-09-10 13:00:00 (link to chat)Thank you for the chat. Do you think Erik Bedard will make a close to full recovery and be effective for a few more years? Any other pitchers who have made it back from a torn labrum in their pitching shoulder?
(Sumi from Monterey Park)
Very few and most are extreme examples like Roger Clemens and Curt Schilling. I don't have a lot of hope for a Bedard return, but if I was his agent, I'd get him to Dave Duncan no matter what. (Will Carroll)
2009-08-28 13:00:00 (link to chat)Dave Duncan -- justifiably unhappy with how his son was treated by the Cardinals organization, or an example of why teams shouldn't have the offspring of managers/coaches in the organization?
(xxxx from yyyy)
It was a truly unfortunate situation. Chris has lost his power because of his injuries and thus all his value. His father seems to have a hard time coming to grips with that. (John Perrotto)
2009-08-28 13:00:00 (link to chat)Maybe I'm forgetting, but it feels like Dave Duncan works best with older, more established pitchers and not young rookies. I don't recall anybody coming up during his time in Oakland.
(Rick from Denver)
Nobody jumps out at me either from the Oakland days but he is the master of getting a lot of mileage out of retreads. (John Perrotto)
2009-03-06 14:00:00 (link to chat)Are you optimistic about the Skip Schumaker 2nd base experiment in St. Louis? Also, is Christina aware that she uses the word "tasty" too much in her writing?
(jbuofm from Peoria)
Having not seen him play yet, I'm not terribly optimistic simply because the track record for these types of conversions isn't all that great. Anytime you're moving a guy to a more difficult defensive position the success rate is low, and it doesn't help that Schumaker's defensive numbers don't support the idea that he's a good enough defender to pull it off.

Maybe if Dave Duncan gets involved enough to teach him how to scuff a baseball? (Jay Jaffe)
2008-08-01 14:00:00 (link to chat)I am amazed to see the St. Louis Cardinals doing so well this year with seemingly so little. Is this a career year for Tony LaRussa?
(mwanders from Moscow, ID)
Well, the guy does have a couple World Series rings, including one won with a team that was barely over .500 after 162 games. But if this is a career year for TLR, it's one for Dave Duncan as well, patching together that pitching staff. I mean, Kyle Lohse and Todd Wellemeyer are 1-2 in SNLVAR on that staff, and if I told you that was a playoff contending recipe at the outset of the year, I'd be doing the Hit List for the Outer Mongolian Independent League myself. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-07-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)Will, in your opinion, who are the top 3 pitching coaches in the game today (or employed recently)? Briefly, why?
(Rick from Chicago)
Do you mean in the game or guys like House, Wolforth, etc? I'll take this as in the game and say that if I were GM, the guys I'd want to interview to be my pitching coach would be Jim Rooney, Brent Strom, and Leo Mazzone. (Mike Maddux and Dave Duncan have jobs, so I don't think they'd be available.) (Will Carroll)
2008-06-27 14:00:00 (link to chat)The Cards' were supposedly going to use this year to sort things out for '09. Now they've got the second best record in the NL and their bullpen is suspect. Johnny Mo won't trade top prospects for relief pitchers will he?
(The King from Grinnell, IA)
No, not top prospects, nor should he. I expect he'll take his time, see if Izzy's going to get ironed out, review the cheap pick-ups, work a few connections, and land a moderately talented thirtysomething who might suddenly magically improve after Dave Duncan shows him a thing or two, and it'll only cost him a non-40-man C prospect out of A-ball. (Christina Kahrl)
2008-06-17 15:00:00 (link to chat)Enough chatter about those teams hogging the top 10. What about my beloved Nationals? Is this the worst hitting lineup in recent times? Also, on the Dave Duncan theme, I think Randy St. Clair is underappreciated for getting decent pitching out of a staff of 89 mph retreads and kids.
(macman from dc)
Whew, 2:30 into this I think I've blown past my pitch count and am into a Category V start. This question and one more....

Good point about St. Clair and the Nats, particularly their rotation. If Shawn Hill could remain healthy it would be even more impressive.

As bad as the lineup's hitting has been, it's fundamentally not as awful as, say, the Mariners'. Injuries have taken their toll, limiting Nick Johnson and Ryan Zimmerman or knocking them out of action for extended periods. The important thing is that there's a lot more upside here than a place like Seattle. Lastings Milledge, Elijah Dukes and Wily Mo Pena may not live up to they hype, but I'd rather see what they can do than watching the death throes of Richie Sexson's career and the half-dozen battles to get OBPs over .300 in that lineup. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-03-03 13:00:00 (link to chat)Dave Duncan has fallen in love with Clay Mortensen. Do you think he could move up the rankings this year?
(Chris from St. Louis)
He could, but at the same time, what does that really mean. Is there a Cardinals pitching prospect that Duncan is talking about how much he hates? Of course not, so take all of those kind of comments with a grain of salt. That's nothing against Mortensen, that's just saying that Dave Duncan's public statement don't change anything about what we know about him. (Kevin Goldstein)


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