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Birth Date8-26-1988
Height6' 0"
Weight200 lbs
Age26 years, 0 months, 23 days
BatsR
ThrowsR
2.02010
3.32011
3.62012
2.42013
1.52014
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WARP Summary

Standard

YEAR TEAM AGE G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR TB BB SO HBP SF SH RBI SB CS AVG OBP SLG TAv VORP FRAA WARP
2009 TEX 20 145 541 480 72 128 17 8 6 179 40 77 6 3 12 40 33 6 .267 .329 .373 .242 22.4 1.0 2.4
2010 TEX 21 148 674 588 88 156 15 3 0 177 64 96 5 0 17 35 32 15 .265 .342 .301 .234 16.4 2.8 2.0
2011 TEX 22 150 665 587 96 164 27 3 5 212 56 74 5 1 16 60 37 12 .279 .347 .361 .256 28.5 2.6 3.3
2012 TEX 23 158 711 629 85 180 31 9 3 238 57 96 5 3 17 62 21 10 .286 .349 .378 .258 31.2 3.0 3.6
2013 TEX 24 156 698 620 91 168 17 4 4 205 52 97 4 6 16 67 42 8 .271 .328 .331 .251 27.1 -5.2 2.4
2014 TEX 25 148 646 582 70 153 33 1 2 194 45 90 3 6 9 37 26 13 .263 .316 .333 .239 19.9 -8.6 1.3
Career905393534865029491402820120531453028198730119164.272.336.346.247145.6-4.514.9

Advanced

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YEAR Team Lg G PA TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP BPF BRAA repLVL POS_ADJ FRAA BRR BVORP BWARP VORP WARP
2005 DNV Rk 6 22 .298 .286 .369 .463 .289 .357 89 1 0.7 0.2 -0.1 0.4 2.3 0.2 2.3 0.2
2006 ROM A 111 478 .275 .260 .333 .381 .263 .328 99 6.2 11.0 4.6 -8.6 0.8 25.8 1.8 25.8 1.8
2007 BAK A+ 27 123 .280 .264 .336 .412 .267 .344 96 2.8 3.8 1.7 -0.1 1.0 7.4 0.7 7.4 0.7
2007 MYR A+ 99 440 .256 .263 .339 .397 .258 .306 99 -2.2 13.5 6.1 5.0 1.5 19.3 2.4 19.3 2.4
2008 FRI AA 118 535 .270 .273 .345 .412 .278 .354 87 6.3 16.8 6.5 26.0 8.0 35.9 6.2 35.9 6.2
2009 TEX MLB 145 541 .242 .265 .329 .424 .260 .305 106 -10.3 15.6 7.1 1.0 4.4 22.4 2.4 22.4 2.4
2010 TEX MLB 148 674 .234 .260 .325 .409 .258 .317 113 -17.8 18.6 8.5 2.8 4.9 16.4 2.0 16.4 2.0
2011 TEX MLB 150 665 .256 .259 .321 .408 .264 .312 110 -2.9 17.9 8 2.6 7.1 28.5 3.3 28.5 3.3
2012 TEX MLB 158 711 .258 .257 .319 .414 .264 .332 104 -1.5 19.5 8.4 3.0 5.7 31.2 3.6 31.2 3.6
2012 MAG Wnt 17 76 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .255 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2013 TEX MLB 156 698 .251 .259 .319 .408 .269 .312 101 -6 18.4 7.3 -5.2 6.8 27.1 2.4 27.1 2.4
2013 VEN int 2 8 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .333 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2014 TEX MLB 148 646 .239 .249 .309 .380 .257 .304 102 -12.8 16.7 7.1 -8.6 6.5 19.9 1.3 19.9 1.3

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG ISO TAv VORP FRAA WARP
2005 DNV Rk 22 3 5 1 0 0 1 4 4 1 0 .278 .409 .333 .056 .298 2.3 -0.1 0.2
2006 ROM A 478 67 116 25 4 3 50 36 91 23 15 .265 .323 .362 .096 .275 25.8 -8.6 1.8
2007 MYR A+ 440 59 94 20 3 3 37 44 88 25 7 .244 .329 .335 .091 .256 19.3 5.0 2.4
2007 BAK A+ 123 19 33 2 0 2 12 10 19 15 8 .300 .366 .373 .073 .280 7.4 -0.1 0.7
2008 FRI AA 535 82 142 19 2 4 65 38 91 54 16 .295 .352 .367 .073 .270 35.9 26.0 6.2
2009 TEX MLB 541 72 128 17 8 6 40 40 77 33 6 .267 .329 .373 .106 .242 22.4 1.0 2.4
2010 TEX MLB 674 88 156 15 3 0 35 64 96 32 15 .265 .342 .301 .036 .234 16.4 2.8 2.0
2011 TEX MLB 665 96 164 27 3 5 60 56 74 37 12 .279 .347 .361 .082 .256 28.5 2.6 3.3
2012 TEX MLB 711 85 180 31 9 3 62 57 96 21 10 .286 .349 .378 .092 .258 31.2 3.0 3.6
2012 MAG Wnt 76 9 15 4 0 1 8 9 9 3 3 .234 .342 .344 .109 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
2013 VEN int 8 2 2 0 0 0 2 0 1 2 0 .286 .375 .286 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
2013 TEX MLB 698 91 168 17 4 4 67 52 97 42 8 .271 .328 .331 .060 .251 27.1 -5.2 2.4
2014 TEX MLB 646 70 153 33 1 2 37 45 90 26 13 .263 .316 .333 .070 .239 19.9 -8.6 1.3

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT
2009 2010 0.5637 0.4082 0.8744 0.5552 0.2178 0.9221 0.7173 0.1207
2010 2683 0.5568 0.3687 0.8804 0.4933 0.2103 0.9403 0.7040 0.1185
2011 2483 0.5393 0.4133 0.8866 0.5571 0.2421 0.9383 0.7473 0.1134
2012 2777 0.5290 0.3898 0.8788 0.5378 0.2225 0.9380 0.7182 0.1203
2013 2775 0.5139 0.4018 0.8634 0.5624 0.2305 0.9302 0.6913 0.1348
2014 2571 0.5068 0.3766 0.8645 0.5365 0.2114 0.9328 0.6866 0.1344
Career152990.53360.39230.87460.53970.22250.93410.71010.1239

Injury History

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2014-07-11 2014-07-11 DTD 0 0 - Ankle Contusion Spiked -
2014-03-18 2014-03-22 Camp 4 0 Right Forearm Inflammation - -
2014-03-01 2014-03-05 Camp 4 0 Right Forearm Tendonitis Flexors - -
2014-02-25 2014-02-27 Camp 2 0 - Low Back Soreness - -
2013-09-01 2013-09-06 DTD 5 4 - Low Back Soreness - -
2013-02-27 2013-03-01 Camp 2 0 Left Upper Arm Soreness From Tattoo - -
2012-09-06 2012-09-06 DTD 0 0 - Low Back Stiffness - -
2012-08-06 2012-08-07 DTD 1 1 - Shoulder Soreness - -
2012-03-28 2012-03-30 Camp 2 0 Right Hip Tightness Hip Flexor - -
2012-02-23 2012-03-01 Camp 7 0 Right Foot Surgery Wart Removed 2012-02-23 -
2011-06-25 2011-06-30 DTD 5 4 Left Wrist Sprain -
2011-05-31 2011-05-31 DTD 0 0 Foot Contusion Stepped on By Teammate -
2011-03-28 2011-03-28 Camp 0 0 Left Lower Leg Contusion Calf Foul Ball -
2011-03-08 2011-03-09 Camp 1 0 Low Back Stiffness -
2010-09-05 2010-09-10 DTD 5 5 Thigh Strain Hamstring -
2010-04-09 2010-04-09 DTD 0 0 Left Wrist Inflammation -
2010-04-02 2010-04-05 Camp 3 0 Left Wrist Inflammation Cortisone Injection -
2009-02-19 2009-02-23 Camp 4 0 Left Wrist Soreness -
2008-02-21 2008-02-23 Camp 2 0 Low Back Soreness -
2006-07-16 2006-07-28 Minors 12 0 Not Disclosed -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2023 TEX $
2022 TEX $14,250,000
2021 TEX $14,250,000
2020 TEX $15,250,000
2019 TEX $15,250,000
2018 TEX $15,250,000
2017 TEX $15,250,000
2016 TEX $15,250,000
2015 TEX $15,250,000
2014 TEX $6,725,000
2013 TEX $5,050,000
2012 TEX $2,625,000
2011 TEX $452,180
2010 TEX $418,420
2009 TEX $400,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
5 yrPrevious$8,945,600
2011Current$6,725,000
6 yrPvs + Cur$15,670,600
8 yrFuture$120,000,000
14 yrTotal$135,670,600

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
5 yScott Boras3 years/$14.4M (2012-14)

Details
  • 8 years/$120M (2015-22), plus 2023 option. Signed extension with Texas 4/4/13. $2M signing bonus. 15-20:$15M annually. 21-22:$14M annually. 23:$15M club option. 2023 option guaranteed with 550 plate appearances in 2022 or 1,100 PAs in 2012-22. 2023 club option becomes player option with trade or waiver claim. May opt out of contract after 2018 or 2019 season. Limited no-trade protection (may block deals to 10 clubs beginning in 2016). If traded, Andrus receives full no-trade clause with new club.
  • 3 years/$14.4M (2012-14). Signed extension with Texas 2/7/12 (avoided arbitration, $3.6M-$2.65M). $0.75M signing bonus. 12:$2.375M, 13:$4.8M, 14:$6.475M.
  • 1 year/$452,180 (2011). Re-signed by Texas 2/26/11.
  • 1 year/$418,420 (2010). Re-signed by Texas 3/4/10.
  • 1 year/$0.4M (2009). Contract purchased by Texas 4/5/09.
  • Acquired by Texas in trade from Atlanta 7/31/07 (Mark Teixeira deal).
  • Signed by Atlanta 2005 as amateur free agent from Venezuela.

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Platoon

SORT_FIELD PLATOON AVG OBP SLG TAv
10 vs L (Multi) .271 .339 .356 .259
11 vs R (Multi) .277 .336 .343 .249
18 Split (Multi) .006 -.003 -.013 -.010
19 LgAvg (Multi) -.013 -.023 -.037 -.020
30 vs L (2013) .273 .340 .358 .266
31 vs R (2013) .270 .324 .320 .242
38 Split (2013) -.002 -.016 -.038 -.024
39 LgAvg (2013) -.011 -.021 -.036 -.019

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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2014-08-29 12:00:00 (link to chat)Thanks for the insights. Is Rougned Odor a lock for the 2B job next year with texas?
(Bill from Dallas)
I wouldn't say lock. Not unless they do something with Elvis Andrus, Jurickson Profar, or someone else that would allow all three to be on the roster at once. (R.J. Anderson)
2014-03-17 13:00:00 (link to chat)With at least two well-heeled teams looking for SS, who else (beyond beyond Franklin and Gigi) is out there in AAA land that could be promoted? How realistic is it for NYY and DET to promote from within?
(Cris E from St Paul, MN)
There isn't really anything available. In fact, it's rare that there are two young, team-controlled shortstops (though Franklin is really a 2B) available. There are plenty of guys floating around who can play short defensively, but few-to-none who can hit. That's why guys who can do both are so valuable. This is basically the reason Elvis Andrus just got paid so much money. (Jeff Moore)
2013-12-10 18:00:00 (link to chat)All but one of those SS are in the NL. Who will be top five in the AL in 2015?
(Jim from Boston)
Reyes would be #1 followed by Elvis Andrus, Ben Zobrist, Alexei Ramirez, and Asdrubal Cabrera. Yikes...I didn't realize what a drop off there was at SS in the AL compared to previous years. (Mike Gianella)
2013-11-05 13:00:00 (link to chat)With all the pitching St. Louis has, seems like they'd trade some of it for a shortstop if a deal presented itself. Which of their young arms would you be most willing, if you were John Mozeliak, to move in order to net Jurickson Profar or Elvis Andrus? Assume a position-player throw-in to make it "fair" if needed.
(Bill from New Mexico)
I think the biggest challenge is probably convincing the Rangers they aren't better off trading for Price and extending him. (Nick J. Faleris)
2013-05-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)Does Elvis Andrus turn it around soon? His early season struggles are killing me (OBP league).
(Marc from Flagstaff)
Yeah, but he's not ALL that great in the first place. Still on pace for 30 SB and 81 R. The SB is about right, the R should jump a little. Stand pat if only bc the position is a wasteland. (Paul Sporer)
2013-04-30 12:00:00 (link to chat)What is Starlin Castro's ceiling? MVP candidate or solid regular? 20 HRs? or Elvis Andrus with less range?
(gary from Indiana)
Probably around MVP candidate. You look at the history of guys who were able to hit as well as he did at such a young age and many of them went on to Hall of Fame or otherwise great careers. I know last year felt like a step back and this year hasn't included a great leap, but he's still insanely talented and young. (R.J. Anderson)
2013-04-30 12:00:00 (link to chat)Can Elvis Andrus take the next step that so many scouts think is there?
(Tony from Work)
Sure can. He's not even 25 years old yet. (R.J. Anderson)
2013-04-16 20:00:00 (link to chat)What's your take on Elvis Andrus? Potential for more power or is his swing just not geared towards it?
(Mike from NYC)
He might develop a little more, but he is unlikely to be a double-digit HR guy at any point. Around 5-8 per year seems like a reasonable expectation at his peak. (Bret Sayre)
2013-02-22 13:00:00 (link to chat)If you were the Texas Rangers, how much would you offer Elvis Andrus right now to extend him for the 2015-22 seasons?
(xxxxx from yyyyy)
$80 million. (Sam Miller)
2012-12-28 13:00:00 (link to chat)I can tell Don why Jon Daniels won't do that trade: Because Elvis Andrus will be a free agent in two years, is a Boras client, and ain't signin' an extension. When it comes down to it, I absolutely think the Rangers will trade Andrus before they trade Profar. And right now, it appears they won't trade either. Ask again next December.
(Chris from also Missouri)
Well, there you go. (Geoff Young)
2012-12-13 13:00:00 (link to chat)Will A. Simmons follow a similar career arc to Elvis Andrus?
(Asking For A Friend from Chicago)
You mean leaving for the Yankees as a free agent and becoming the next Derek Jeter and giving out quality gift baskets? Highly unlikely. (Jason Parks)
2012-10-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)What's the general scouting world's view of Brandon Crawford's defense?
(rmunter from Washington DC)
I think it depends on the scout and at what point in the year that saw him. He made a lot of improvements to his defensive game as the year progressed. I have mixed feelings about Crawford. To me, he's the type that makes plays look harder rather than making them look easier. Some defenders are so natural, and athletic, and fluid that even high-difficulty plays look routine. Crawford makes a play and it takes every ounce of his being and people can witness the effort so it looks like he showed a lot of #want in the act, which I'm sure he did. Elvis Andrus makes the same play and it looks routine and common. (Jason Parks)
2012-10-04 14:00:00 (link to chat)Thoughts on these hitters for next year (for fantasy purposes) - Seagar, Gomez, Frazier, Mayberry, Snider and E. Cabrera?
(Adam from Rochester)
Bullish on Everth Cabrera, as kind of a poor man's Elvis Andrus who won't kill you anywhere but will help big-time with steals at SS. Also like Seager with the Safeco fences being moved in. Not crazy about either Snider or Mayberry, and the rest are somewhere in between. (Daniel Rathman)
2012-09-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)Who is the better player in two years, Elvis Andrus or Jurickson Profar?
(Or from Denton)
Elvis (Jason Parks)
2012-09-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)Ryan Jackson and Pete Koma. Any reason for Cardinals fans to fuss over who gets the starting gig with Furcal out/next year?
(Jeff from St. Louis)
Well, after the Cardinals trade for Elvis Andrus in the off-season, they won't have to worry about a shortstop. #bam (Jason Parks)
2012-07-30 13:00:00 (link to chat)Looking ahead, who are your Top 5 SS for next season? (And, if you feel like it, Top 5 CF as well)
(sitdancer from DC)
Right now, I'd rank the shortstops
1- Troy Tulowitzki
2- Jose Reyes
3- Starlin Castro
4- Elvis Andrus
5- Ian Desmond

I struggled to rank 3-5, and an argument could be made for shuffling them up in any order. Hanley Ramirez could throw a wrench into these rankings if he sees time at SS in Dee Gordon's absence. As for the CF position, I'm much less comfortable ranking them at the moment. Matt Kemp has missed time due to injury, as has Jacoby Ellsbury. Josh Hamilton has been streaky as hell, and I just want to see a bit more from others. As it stands, though, my top 3 would be Trout, Kemp, McCutchen in that order. (Josh Shepardson)
2012-01-20 14:00:00 (link to chat)Do you see any growth in power numbers for Elvis Andrus? Could he eventually hit 10-15?
(Daniel from Montana)
I don't see it. I think he'll hit MORE home runs, but 15? Nah. (Kevin Goldstein)
2012-01-26 13:00:00 (link to chat)Who has more HR Power, me or Elvis Andrus?
(Kate Upton from New York)
Elvis. He also has a better smile. (Jason Parks)
2012-01-26 13:00:00 (link to chat)Very random question: What current prospect is most likely to have the longest career? Not the best player, the player most likely to resemble Julio Franco. Bonus points if the prospect eats a dozen egg whites before every game.
(SC from Minneapolis)
Elvis Andrus strikes me as a guy that could pull a Vizquel and play until he's 75 years-old (Jason Parks)
2011-10-17 13:00:00 (link to chat)Thanks, Kevin. Just how high is Jurickson Profar's ceiling, and do you think the Rangers ultimately play him at SS, or move him to 2B in a year or two to play alongside Elvis Andrus?
(Keith from Manchester, CT)
Well, in three years, Andrus leaves via free agency, so that takes care of that, no? (Kevin Goldstein)
2011-10-04 13:00:00 (link to chat)Elvis Andrus is the __th best defensive shortstop in baseball.
(Or from DENTON, BITCHES!)
one of the best (Jason Parks)
2011-04-05 13:00:00 (link to chat)Now that Elvis Andrus has established himself as a power hitter, will the 162-0 Rangers set the all time season record for home runs? Also, since they signed my dog to pitch out of the bullpen, is there a good chance they might also use him to shag homers on "bring your dog to the park" night?
(jhardman from Rangerland)
I saw the highlight last night, and how is it that no one shouted, "Elvis has LEFT the BUILDING" when that went out? (Steven Goldman)
2011-02-28 13:00:00 (link to chat)You've listed Jurickson Profar in your Top 100 as a 17 year old. Do you think he will come through the Rangers system as a shortstop with Elvis Andrus ahead of him or switch positions? Also, can you comment on the other young SS prospect (Luis Sardinas) in the Rangers system in the same vein?
(jhardman from Rangerland)
Profar is going to play Low-A this year, and Sardinas will likely be in a short-season league, so you are getting WAY ahead of yourself. (Kevin Goldstein)
2011-02-28 13:00:00 (link to chat)Does the fact that Elvis Andrus used Chacarron as his at-bat music raise his esteem in your eyes?
(Or from Dallas)
The myth that I have some kind of hatred for Andrus is exactly that. (Kevin Goldstein)
2011-02-22 13:00:00 (link to chat)Professor - I know the minor league SS ranks are a bit thin, but what about the guys who have already been promoted? Who out of this group do you like to have the best MLB career - Starlin Castro, Elvis Andrus, Alcides Escobar or Reid Brignac?
(bretsayre from nj)
Best career: Overall, I'll say Andrus. I don't think Castro stays at SS or he would be my choice. (Jason Parks)
2010-12-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)The Rangers lost out on Lee, consider Elvis Andrus to be a superior defender, and play in Jet Stream Park. Wouldn't this be a good time for the Indians to sing the praises of Fausto Carmona's power sinker and contact Texas? I mean, yeah, Cleveland needs Carmona, too, but this might not be a bad "sell high" scenario for them.
(buffum from Austin TX)
Given the presence of so many other mid-rotation types being shopped, I would have to think Texas is better off seeing if Greinke's available for some package they can put together. Then, if not, they can turn around and comparison shop between the Blantons, Carmonas, etc. And given their depth, they can afford to be picky, instead of overpaying for any of them, in terms of treasure or talent. (Christina Kahrl)
2010-09-21 13:00:00 (link to chat)I have Starlin Castro($3) and Elvis Andrus($9) in a keeper league and can only keep one, would you keep one over the other or neither?
(Mike from Chicago)
Starlin Castro every day, Mike. I have a giant fantasy crush on Castro, and was psyched when someone dealt him to me on a team I am rebuilding. He's 20 years old and has shown a ton of ability at the plate--I expect some more growth out of him. Rob McQuown and I have had this conversation a lot, but he reminds us of Rafael Furcal in a lot of ways (except Castro is at this point actually as young as he says he is) (Marc Normandin)
2010-08-20 15:30:00 (link to chat)Jurickson Profar, son of Judeska and Chesmond; how does he rank when compared to guys like Elvis Andrus when comparing age and project-ability?
(Erich from St. Paul, Minnesota)
Andrus has more tools, at least in the speed category. (Kevin Goldstein)
2010-07-01 14:00:00 (link to chat)The continued development of Elvis Andrus - your thoughts?
(James from Stamford, Texas)
He's been better this year, but strangely so, as the OBP is up, but the SLG is only .337. I still don't think he's the next big thing, as much as just a really good player. (Kevin Goldstein)
2010-05-24 14:00:00 (link to chat)What do you think of Elvis Andrus more mature patient approach at the plate? Hopefully it will bode well for him as an offensive on base machine.
(caseyj15 from Medford, Or)
The great thing about Andrus is that he's so young that you could anticipate further development, but as you've noted, what makes it especially interesting is how it hasn't been just a static, across-the-boards statistical improvement, but instead looks to be an adaptive change. If it sticks, he'll be the deluxe leadoff option the Rangers have needed for years, and a big part of why they'll rule the roost in the short stack. (Christina Kahrl)
2010-05-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)Elvis Andrus's new patience leads me to believe he has significantly developed this year as a hitter. What do you think of his long range offensive outlook given his swift development?
(caseyj15 from Medford, Oregon)
Well, I don't see him as a .418 OBP guy going forward. His BABIP (currently .389) is going to regress, but if he maintains this kind of patience he suddenly looks like a top-of-the-lineup guy instead of a bottom-of-the-lineup one. Add that to his plus defense, and that's a guy who's gonna go to a few All-Star games. (Jay Jaffe)
2010-03-03 14:00:00 (link to chat)If you didn't hate Elvis Andrus, and he was eligible for your top 101, where would he rank? As a Rangers fan, I'm hoping the top 10.
(Michael Jordan from TX)
I don't hate Elvis Andrus. That's a myth, but I can't say I'm not entertained by how worked up some get when I say he's not the greatest thing ever. He would not be in the top 10 for me. I think he's a very good player, I just don't think he is, or ever will be a true impact level one. (Kevin Goldstein)
2010-03-04 13:00:00 (link to chat)OK, so some sight that shall remain nameless rated Elvis Andrus as a better fantasy SS than Yunel Escobar. Is that that the most rediculous ranking you've seen? Or is there another that really blew you away?
(biglou115 from Arkansas)
I can see why they would do it--they probably expect more power from Andrus than last year, and with his stolen bases and the Rangers lineup you can argue he'll add to a few categories, but I like Yunel more, so I don't buy that argument.

There has to be something more ridiculous out there though, since I can justify that whether I agree with it or not. (Marc Normandin)
2010-01-14 16:00:00 (link to chat)Since I don't know your area of expertise, I'll just ask a general question. What do you think of the Rangers Rotation for next year? Harden, Feldman, Holland, Hunter, and one of Feliz, Harrison, McCarthy, Wilson, Hurley, or whoever.
(Ira from North Texas)
Everyone in that rotation has their tragic flaw. I don’t know that me saying “Harden, if healthy…” adds anything to the discussion, but it’s all I have to say about him. Feldman has the good sense to keep his batted balls on the ground and to let Elvis Andrus do the dirrrty work. He’s the better of the bunch (assuming that Neftali Feliz is in the pen.) Holland caught some bad luck last year, but his peripherals still say “nothing special.” (Russell A. Carleton)
2009-12-17 13:00:00 (link to chat)"Jays got more back than the Twins did for Johan Santana (it would be hard to do worse, I think)." As you note, that's setting the bar pretty low. Is that the worst trade of the last ten years? I can't think of any that are worse off the top of my head...
(mattymatty2000 from philly, pa)
Only time will tell, but I think you can make strong cases for the Expos' acquisition of Bartolo Colon (Grady Sizemore, Cliff Lee and Brandon Phillips to Cleveland) and the Braves' acquisition of Mark Teixeira (Neftali Felix, Elvis Andrus, Jarrod Saltalamacchia - yeah, I can spell it without looking - et al). Still, it's in the picture for the clinkers of note. (Jay Jaffe)
2009-12-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)Who do you like better, Yunel Escobar or Elvis Andrus?
(Matt from SD, CA)
Elvis, for the glove and youth. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-12-04 14:00:00 (link to chat)Any thoughts on how special of a 2009 season Asdrubal Cabrera and Elvis Andrus had as very young shortstops with good-great defense and solid offense?
( Aaron from YYZ)
I think Cabrera is a little ahead of Andrus at this point but that Andrus will have the better career. I like both of them a lot. (John Perrotto)
2009-11-19 13:00:00 (link to chat)In a keeper Strat-O-Matic league, would you take Elvis Andrus or Gordon Beckham? Assume the team's other left-side infielder is someone like Brendan Harris, who can start at SS or 3B as needed.
(Rex Little from Big Bear, CA)
The difference in their ages and position--the White Sox appear to be committed to the Cuban Shawon Dunston at shortstop--mean I'd take Andrus. Keeper leagues are about long-term value. I like Beckham a lot, but a long-term 1 at short with a decent bat is what you build around. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-10-13 14:00:00 (link to chat)You were pretty critical of the decision to move Michael Young off of shortstop to make room for Elvis Andrus, arguing that Young's bat wouldn't play at third base. Young's bounceback year notwithstanding, do you think that the significant upgrade defensively at shortstop and third base made the switch worthwhile at the end of the day, or do you think the Rangers would have been better off living with Young's sub-par glove at short and dealing Andrus?
(xxx from yyy)
I'm confident of the fact that, in this instance, history reflects that I was wrong, wrong, wrong. Props to Jon Daniels and company, props to Young for making himself a quality third baseman, and props to Andrus and what looks like an interesting future. Even if you let a little bit (or a lot) of Texas-related inflation out of Andrus' numbers, you have to like the upside given his age. (Christina Kahrl)
2009-10-06 13:30:00 (link to chat)Elvis Andrus has been worth 2.9 WAR while anchoring a Ranger defense that completely transformed. How do you put Andrew Bailey (2.4 WAR) ahead of him in the ALROY race?
(Conjunction from Dallas)
The great thing about the rookie classes in both leagues is that you can go a number of different ways with your picks. I like Andrus a lot and I know I certainly left myself open for criticism by not selecting him. However, I thought Bailey was outstanding all year in a role that many veterans have a difficult time handling. It's an interesting debate, which is one of the reasons we all love baseball so much. (John Perrotto)
2009-09-29 13:00:00 (link to chat)With the CYA (Greinke) and the MVP (Mauer) awards pretty well settled who do you have for RoY??
(kcboomer from kc)
I'm sort of ambivalent. I imagine it will be Gordon Beckham, but I feel like you could make just as good a case for Andrew Bailey or Jeff Neimann. Nolan Reimold had a good year too, and I'm sure that some people will claim that Elvis Andrus helped the Rangers accomplish... accomplish... Oh, never mind. (Steven Goldman)
2009-09-17 14:00:00 (link to chat)I know you weren't quite as high on Elvis Andrus coming into the 2009 season as some other folks were, seeing him as a future Edgar Renteria rather than a future star -- has his performance this year changed your mind any?
(Adam J. Morris from Houston, TX)
No. Renteria actually had a better year at 20, but then dropped off a bit. I think they're very similar players really. Andrus w/ more speed, Renteria with a more refine approach. (Kevin Goldstein)
2009-09-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)Doesn't the AL ROY almost have to be Elvis Andrus? He's the 8th most valuable SS (by WAR) in all of baseball (and the 9th best SS offensively by wOBA)
(Aaron from YYZ)
Why use wOBA when EqA's testably more accurate? Referring to the following BP sortable-stats page, Andrus is the 11th best by EqA among the 27 MLB regulars at short, and 12th by EqR. Make it a matter of the AL, and he's seventh by EqR, and sixth by EqA. Decent work, certainly, and that's without getting into his value on defense. But then there's also Gordon Beckham, and a few other notables. Andrus' hot hitting in the second half certainly helps elevate his overall case.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/sortable/index.php?cid=531390 (Christina Kahrl)
2009-09-08 13:00:00 (link to chat)Pedro-Smoltz would be awesome, but I just don't see how Pedro gets a PS start :-(
(Dave from PA)
Sad face.

Off topic, but since R.J. Anderson is harassing me via IM for talking up Niemann, I should clarify. I don't think Niemann is a great pitcher, or even close to deserving the line he's put up. But awards are for what you have accomplished, not for what you were supposed to do, so I don't mind recommending him for the AL's Jackie Robinson Award. Of course this is pointless because Elvis Andrus is the right choice anyways. (Marc Normandin)
2009-09-08 13:00:00 (link to chat)I know you are not much of an awards guy. But what do you think the chances of Tommy Hunter winning AL ROY? Especially if the Tigers shut down Porcello to rest his arm, and Hunter wins all 4 starts down the stretch to finish with 11 wins?
(Ira from Third base line)
Jackie Robinson Award! Say it with me, folks. By the way, why no love for Jeff Niemann, if we're talking about the AL's rookie hurlers? He's been worth more than twice what Porcello is. Hell, Hunter's already been worth more than Porcello in his 80+ innings. Elvis Andrus has been worth more than all of them though. (Marc Normandin)
2009-08-25 13:00:00 (link to chat)Elvis Andrus, Gordon Beckham, Nolan Reimold, maybe Rickey Romero, or Andrew Bailey...who you got as AL RoY?
(Lincoln from Dallas)
Beckham, who just recently passed Andrus. It's very close.

I really like Gordon Beckham. He could win an MVP as a shortstop. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-07-15 14:00:00 (link to chat)When you say you like Darwin Barney, you mean in a utility infield way right? I mean there's no way a guy with 0 secondary skills can be a starter. Or at least deserve to be a starter.
(Jon from Rhode Island)
What is he's a 70 defender? Was good enough for Elvis Andrus. (Kevin Goldstein)
2009-05-28 14:00:00 (link to chat)What's the general assessment on Elvis Andrus' stock after a month and a half in the big leagues? Better than advertised, fluky so far, or more study required?
(Aaron from YYZ)
Somewhere between A. and C. (Kevin Goldstein)
2009-02-16 14:00:00 (link to chat)Kevin, you placed Elvis Andrus lower than I think I've seen him anywhere else. Do you think he will struggle in his first year in the majors, or do you doubt he will ever be an above average major league shortstop?
(bateman19 from boston ma)
I'd bet a ton of him struggling is THIS year he gets the big league shortstop job. I think he can be a plus defender who hits for average and runs well, but a lack of power or on-base skills keep him towards the bottom of the order. (Kevin Goldstein)
2009-02-11 14:00:00 (link to chat)Ignoring arbitration clock discussions, do you think letting Elvis Andrus start for all of 2009 before he is ready will make him a better player in 2010? Or is it better to let a young player like him get in more time at AAA with a late season call up?
(ScotMartin from TX)
I think the Rangers know that they won't be competitive until 2010, so why not give Andrus a head start? I like the idea and they've got Vizquel to mentor him. Omar really can't play anymore but he knows how to play shortstop. (John Perrotto)
2009-01-26 14:00:00 (link to chat)Based on a discussion I was having this morning, what is your view on Moustakas versus Tim Beckham as prospects? Would you trade either of them for Elvis Andrus, straight-up?
(Stephanie from DC)
I like both of them quite a bit, and they're both very high, and close to each other in my Top 100 (which you'll all see soon). I wouldn't trade either for Andrus straight up -- I'd barely even consider it. (Kevin Goldstein)
2009-01-26 14:00:00 (link to chat)Alcides Escobar or Elvis Andrus? Who has more value in 4 years?
(Birdfan01 from LA)
I'll take Escobar. I think they're pretty much equal offensively, and Escobar gets the nod with the glove. (Kevin Goldstein)
2008-11-12 14:00:00 (link to chat)Feeling any better about Elvis Andrus after his steady second half?
(Joey Matschulat from Tyler, TX)
Another guy I'm not as high on as others. Decent average, great speed, no other secondary skills, good defense. He's almost Royce Clayton for me, but I also think Royce Clayton is underrated. (Kevin Goldstein)
2008-08-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)Looking at Elvis Andrus' stat line, I still can't tell whether he's moving past the 'holding his own despite being young for the level' stage or not. What do scouts say?
(Tim from Portland, OR)
They're still mixed. I still don't like him as much as most. For me, he's plus defender, singles hitting shortstop with speed and no other secondary skills. So everyday SS who hits 7th or 8th -- I'm not too excited. (Kevin Goldstein)
2008-08-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)What do you think of Julio Borbon? He seems to be doing fairly good at the AA level in the Rangers system. thx
(uptick from st. louis, mo)
For me, he's pretty much Elvis Andrus in center field. Good average, good defense, lot's of speed, no power, no walks. I don't know what to do with that really (and now to sound like the sheriff in No Country For Old Men), I surely don't. (Kevin Goldstein)
2008-06-13 14:00:00 (link to chat)If you don't see the Braves re-signing Teix, then do you see them trading him at the deadline?
(JoshEngleman from Tamaqua, PA)
They gave up A LOT to get him, including Elvis Andrus and Matt Harrison, both of whom are considered very good prospects. If I were to give you my best guess, I don't think they'll move him b/c I don't think they'll get a lot. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't feel like you've seen a lot of players dealt at the deadline the last few years who were FAs to be/"rent a player types" who have gotten produced a lot in return. It seems like teams have been more inclined to "ride it out" even if the team isn't playing well b/c they get the compensatory draft pick. (Jon "Boog" Sciambi)
2008-02-06 14:00:00 (link to chat)If given the opportunity to obtain either of these young shortstops, which would you select; Carlos Triunfel or Elvis Andrus?
(Or from Dallas)
Hmmm. It'd be a nice dilemma to have.

I think Triunfel will be the superior offensive player, but also carries more positional risk. I'm not privy to more information on Andrus than you all are, but my impression of Triunfel is that he's eventually going to move positions, perhaps to 3B.

But that's always the tradeoff, right? A good rule of thumb is to always assume the rumors of a prospect down the defensive spectrum are true. You won't hit 100%, but you also won't keep some guy for four years on your keeper team, and have him turn into a mediocre 1B instead of a kick-ass catcher. (Gary Huckabay)
2008-01-28 13:00:00 (link to chat)After Brignac, who's the best SS prospect (who will actually stick at SS) in the minors?
(charles from west hempstead, ny)
Probably Jed Lowrie, if you are of the opinion that he can stick at shortstop. I believe it, and while he might not be best up the middle, he could work there. And while I know he's not really popular, you can't argue with Elvis Andrus' potential. Minor league coaches still love this guy, and if nothing else, I guarantee he stays at shortstop. (Bryan Smith)


BP Roundtables

DateRoundtable NameComment
2010-10-06 10:00:002010 Playoffs Day OneElvis Andrus looks like a slick-fielding Abraham Lincoln. (Marc Normandin)
 

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