Biographical

Portrait of Josh Vitters

Josh Vitters 3BCubs

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2014 Projections (Preseason PECOTA - seasonal age 24)
PA AVG HR R RBI SB TAv WARP
250 .242 8 26 30 2 .249 -0.2
Birth Date8-27-1989
Height6' 2"
Weight200 lbs
Age25 years, 1 months, 25 days
BatsR
ThrowsR
2010
2011
-1.22012
2013
-0.22014
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WARP Summary

Standard

YEAR TEAM AGE G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR TB BB SO HBP SF SH RBI SB CS AVG OBP SLG TAv VORP FRAA WARP
2012 CHN 22 36 109 99 7 12 2 0 2 20 7 33 2 1 0 5 2 0 .121 .193 .202 .153 -10.3 -1.1 -1.2
Career361099971220220733210520.121.193.202.153-10.3-1.1-1.2

Advanced

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg G PA TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP BPF BRAA repLVL POS_ADJ FRAA BRR BVORP BWARP VORP WARP
2007 BOI A- 7 23 .171 .257 .335 .384 .256 .250 119 -2.3 0.7 -0.1 0.8 0.2 -2.0 -0.1 -2.0 -0.1
2007 CUB Rk 7 32 .066 .272 .345 .388 .264 .095 97 -7.4 1.0 -0.2 -0.3 0.0 -6.0 -0.6 -6.0 -0.6
2008 PEO A 4 14 .209 .276 .350 .392 .286 .333 89 -0.7 0.4 0 0.1 -0.5 -0.8 -0.1 -0.8 -0.1
2008 BOI A- 61 277 .296 .254 .348 .370 .264 .383 109 10.9 8.0 0.7 -2.1 -1.0 18.0 1.6 18.0 1.6
2009 PEO A 70 288 .307 .259 .333 .377 .261 .330 104 13.8 8.0 0.4 -3.9 -2.9 16.2 1.3 16.2 1.3
2009 DAY A+ 50 196 .229 .255 .328 .358 .254 .258 100 -6.4 5.7 0.1 -0.3 0.4 1.5 0.1 1.5 0.1
2010 DAY A+ 28 120 .328 .251 .323 .382 .262 .341 89 8.6 3.5 -0.2 -3.0 0.4 10.3 0.7 10.3 0.7
2010 TEN AA 63 228 .224 .261 .339 .386 .263 .244 104 -8.6 6.4 0.9 -3.5 -0.6 -2.4 -0.6 -2.4 -0.6
2011 TEN AA 129 488 .250 .263 .335 .402 .253 .290 118 -5.4 14.4 -0.5 -13.4 -1.0 9.1 -0.4 9.1 -0.4
2012 CHN MLB 36 109 .153 .251 .317 .399 .259 .154 104 -11.5 3.0 0.4 -1.1 -0.7 -10.3 -1.2 -10.3 -1.2
2012 IOW AAA 110 452 .303 .278 .341 .430 .270 .337 93 22 13.4 0.4 -2.8 0.1 31.3 2.8 31.3 2.8
2012 LEO Wnt 2 7 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2013 IOW AAA 28 100 .305 .273 .335 .408 .262 .328 101 4.9 2.9 -0.2 -1.7 0.0 7.9 0.6 7.9 0.6
2013 CUB Rk 5 17 .213 .268 .357 .402 .288 .125 92 -0.8 0.5 -0.1 0.4 -0.2 -1.0 -0.1 -1.0 -0.1
2014 IOW AAA 112 404 .212 .269 .336 .417 .264 .268 96 -21.9 12.1 -4.1 -7.5 1.2 -11.9 -1.9 -11.9 -1.9

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG ISO TAv VORP FRAA WARP
2007 CUB Rk 32 0 2 0 0 0 2 1 9 0 0 .067 .097 .067 .000 .066 -6.0 -0.3 -0.6
2007 BOI A- 23 2 4 0 0 0 1 2 5 1 1 .190 .261 .190 .000 .171 -2.0 0.8 -0.1
2008 PEO A 14 1 3 3 0 0 1 0 5 0 0 .214 .214 .429 .214 .209 -0.8 0.1 -0.1
2008 BOI A- 277 38 85 25 2 5 37 13 45 1 3 .328 .367 .498 .170 .296 18.0 -2.1 1.6
2009 PEO A 288 42 85 12 1 15 46 7 42 4 0 .316 .354 .535 .219 .307 16.2 -3.9 1.3
2009 DAY A+ 196 21 45 7 2 3 22 5 23 2 1 .238 .262 .344 .106 .229 1.5 -0.3 0.1
2010 DAY A+ 120 16 32 8 0 3 13 8 22 4 1 .291 .350 .445 .155 .328 10.3 -3.0 0.7
2010 TEN AA 228 28 46 12 0 7 26 13 41 2 0 .223 .289 .383 .160 .224 -2.4 -3.5 -0.6
2011 TEN AA 488 56 127 28 2 14 81 22 54 4 10 .283 .322 .448 .165 .250 9.1 -13.4 -0.4
2012 IOW AAA 452 54 126 32 2 17 68 30 77 6 3 .304 .356 .513 .210 .303 31.3 -2.8 2.8
2012 CHN MLB 109 7 12 2 0 2 5 7 33 2 0 .121 .193 .202 .081 .153 -10.3 -1.1 -1.2
2012 LEO Wnt 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
2013 IOW AAA 100 14 26 4 0 5 12 11 19 1 0 .295 .380 .511 .216 .305 7.9 -1.7 0.6
2013 CUB Rk 17 1 1 1 0 0 0 4 5 0 0 .077 .294 .154 .077 .213 -1.0 0.4 -0.1
2014 IOW AAA 404 33 80 14 0 11 38 23 107 4 1 .213 .268 .339 .125 .212 -11.9 -7.5 -1.9

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT
2012 418 0.4474 0.4809 0.7214 0.6738 0.3247 0.8492 0.5067 0.2786
Career4180.44740.48090.72140.67380.32470.84920.50670.2786

Injury History

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2014-08-21 - Minors - - - Fingers Fracture -
2014-05-24 2014-06-05 Minors 12 0 Left Fracture Great Toe -
2013-08-14 2013-09-05 Minors 22 0 Right Thigh Strain Hamstring -
2013-07-26 2013-08-12 Minors 17 0 Right Thigh Strain Hamstring - -
2013-05-25 2013-07-19 Minors 55 0 - Trunk Strain Ribcage - -
2013-04-08 2013-05-01 Minors 23 0 - Low Back Strain - -
2013-02-21 2013-03-17 Camp 24 0 Left Thigh Strain Quadriceps - -
2010-07-26 2010-09-19 Minors 55 0 Left Fingers Fracture -
2009-07-28 2009-08-09 Minors 12 0 Left Hand Inflammation -
2008-04-22 2008-05-04 Minors 12 0 Left Hand Inflammation -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2014 CHN $
2013 CHN $

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
0 y 60 dCasey Close1 year (2014)

Details
  • 1 year (2014). Re-signed by Chicago Cubs 3/3/14.
  • 1 year (2013). Re-signed by Chicago Cubs 3/4/13.
  • 2012. Contract purchased by Chicago Cubs 11/18/11.
  • Drafted by Chicago Cubs 2007 (1-3) (Cyprus HS, Calif.). Signed 8/15/07, $3.2M signing bonus.

2014 Preseason Forecast

Last Update: 3/11/2014 05:35 ET

PCT PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG TAv VORP FRAA WARP
90o 315 39 81 17 1 11 43 20 60 3 2 .283 .335 .502 .289 14.8 LF 4 2.1
80o 293 35 72 15 1 10 38 17 57 3 2 .268 .319 .474 .275 9.8 LF 4 1.5
70o 277 32 66 14 1 9 34 16 55 3 2 .257 .307 .453 .265 6.5 LF 4 1.1
60o 263 29 60 13 1 8 32 15 53 2 2 .248 .296 .436 .256 4.0 LF 3 0.8
50o 250 27 56 12 1 8 29 13 51 2 2 .239 .287 .419 .248 1.8 LF 3 0.6
40o 237 25 51 11 1 7 27 12 49 2 1 .231 .277 .403 .239 -0.1 LF 3 0.3
30o 223 23 46 10 1 6 25 11 47 2 1 .222 .267 .386 .231 -2.0 LF 3 0.1
20o 207 20 41 9 0 6 22 10 45 2 1 .211 .255 .367 .220 -3.9 LF 3 -0.1
10o 185 17 34 7 0 5 18 8 41 1 1 .197 .239 .340 .206 -6.0 LF 2 -0.4
Weighted Mean2562858121830145222.243.291.427.2522.8LF 30.7

Diagnostics

Breakout Rate Improve Rate Collapse Rate Attrition Rate MLB %
3% 17% 13% 20% 42%

Long-Term Forecast (Beyond the 2014 Projections)

Playing time estimates are based on performance, not Depth Charts.
Year Age PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB AVG OBP SLG TAv WARP VORP BRR POS_ADJ REP_ADJ RAA FRAA
201525295346515093515623.238.285.396.2500.83.8-0.8-1.29.9-4.13.8
201626578671292911869331165.243.293.403.2541.67.4-1.6-2.614.9-3.47.5
201727621711393111973321225.241.287.398.2521.55.5-1.7-2.914.9-4.98.1
201828638751453212177351245.246.296.410.2581.98.8-1.8-3.214.9-1.18.3
201929606711383012073351144.247.297.410.2581.89.0-1.8-3.214.9-1.07.9
202030638751473212177361184.248.297.411.2591.88.6-2.0-3.514.9-0.88.3
202131610721372912073371143.244.297.405.2571.77.5-2.0-3.614.9-1.98.0
202232619741453112075351143.254.303.416.2622.010.4-2.0-3.814.91.28.1
202333622731363011973391172.239.295.397.2531.45.1-1.9-4.014.9-3.98.1

Upside By Year

2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 PEAK 5
3.325.333.43.116.9

Comparable Players (Similarity Index 81)

Rank Score Name Year TAv Trend
1 92 Ryan Wheeler 2013 .173
2 91 Brent Morel 2011 .243
3 88 Brandon Laird 2012 .262
4 88 Vinnie Catricala 2013 .000 DNP
5 87 Allen Craig 2009 .000 DNP
6 86 Zack Cox 2013 .000 DNP
7 86 Wes Hodges 2009 .000 DNP
8 86 Joe Leonard 2013 .000 DNP
9 86 Jairo Perez 2012 .000 DNP
10 86 Joel Guzman 2009 .000 DNP
11 86 Luke Hughes 2009 .000 DNP
12 85 Neil Walker 2010 .292
13 85 Daniel Murphy 2009 .258
14 85 Marquez Smith 2009 .000 DNP
15 84 Adam Duvall 2013 .000 DNP
16 84 Luis Jimenez 2012 .000 DNP
17 84 Danny Valencia 2009 .000 DNP
18 84 Justin Bloxom 2012 .000 DNP
19 84 Russell Mitchell 2009 .000 DNP
20 83 Nate Tenbrink 2011 .000 DNP
21 83 Jared Goedert 2009 .000 DNP
22 83 Eric Campbell 2011 .000 DNP
23 83 Josh Bell 2011 .157
24 83 Eric Duncan 2009 .000 DNP
25 82 Stephen Parker 2012 .000 DNP
26 82 Eric Campbell 2010 .000 DNP
27 82 Lonnie Chisenhall 2013 .251
28 81 Zach Lutz 2010 .000 DNP
29 81 Stefan Welch 2013 .000 DNP
30 81 Andy Marte 2008 .205
31 81 Matt Tuiasosopo 2010 .205
32 80 James Darnell 2011 .196
33 80 Travis Mattair 2013 .000 DNP
34 80 Josh Harrison 2012 .238
35 80 C.J. Retherford 2010 .000 DNP
36 80 Ian Desmond 2010 .262
37 80 Moises Sierra 2013 .308
38 79 Yamaico Navarro 2012 .176
39 79 Matthew Duffy 2013 .000 DNP
40 79 Taylor Green 2011 .219
41 79 Chih-Hsien Chiang 2012 .000 DNP
42 79 Michael Wing 2013 .000 DNP
43 79 Kevin Ahrens 2013 .000 DNP
44 79 Jason Kipnis 2011 .291
45 79 Josh Reddick 2011 .281
46 79 Jesus Guzman 2008 .000 DNP
47 79 Kyle Reynolds 2008 .000 DNP
48 79 Chris Marrero 2013 .094
49 79 Darin Holcomb 2010 .000 DNP
50 79 Carlos Rivero 2012 .000 DNP
51 79 Bryan Petersen 2010 .088
52 79 Blake DeWitt 2010 .266
53 78 Jason Pridie 2008 .139
54 78 Todd Frazier 2010 .000 DNP
55 78 Conor Gillaspie 2012 .122
56 78 German Duran 2009 .000 DNP
57 78 David Lough 2010 .000 DNP
58 78 Chad Tracy 2010 .000 DNP
59 78 Kyle Seager 2012 .274
60 78 Chin-lung Hu 2008 .197
61 78 Wes Bankston 2008 .195
62 78 Jordy Mercer 2011 .000 DNP
63 78 Billy Nowlin 2011 .000 DNP
64 78 Nate Schierholtz 2008 .291
65 78 Joey Terdoslavich 2013 .230
66 78 Alfredo Marte 2013 .203
67 78 Henry Wrigley 2011 .000 DNP
68 78 Anthony Hatch 2008 .000 DNP
69 78 David Adams 2011 .000 DNP
70 78 Rhyne Hughes 2008 .000 DNP
71 78 Ryan Adams 2011 .212
72 78 Stefen Romero 2013 .000 DNP
73 78 Thomas Neal 2012 .169
74 77 Felix Pie 2009 .252
75 77 Jeff Fiorentino 2007 .000 DNP
76 77 Matthew Brown 2007 .163
77 77 Brandon Short 2013 .000 DNP
78 77 Jimmy Paredes 2013 .189
79 77 Nick Evans 2010 .274
80 77 Brett Wallace 2011 .246
81 77 Cody Haerther 2008 .000 DNP
82 77 Ryan Flaherty 2011 .000 DNP
83 77 Sean Henry 2010 .000 DNP
84 77 Chris Pettit 2009 .161
85 77 Trevor Plouffe 2010 .170
86 77 Caleb Gindl 2013 .278
87 77 Scott Van Slyke 2011 .000 DNP
88 77 Shin-Soo Choo 2007 .293
89 77 Chris Dominguez 2011 .000 DNP
90 77 Steffan Wilson 2010 .000 DNP
91 77 Jeremie Tice 2011 .000 DNP
92 77 Reid Brignac 2010 .245
93 77 Jedd Gyorko 2013 .264
94 77 Chris Johnson 2009 .085
95 77 Andrew Lambo 2013 .253
96 77 David Winfree 2010 .000 DNP
97 77 Kellen Kulbacki 2010 .000 DNP
98 77 Chris Nelson 2010 .201
99 77 Willy Aybar 2007 .000 DNP
100 77 Dean Green 2013 .000 DNP

Platoon

SORT_FIELD PLATOON AVG OBP SLG TAv

BP Annual Player Comments

YearComment
2014 Due to publishing agreements, the 2014 player comments and team essays are only available in the Baseball Prospectus 2014 book (available in hardcopy, e-book, and Kindle).
2013 Vitters was a raw high school hitter the Cubs loved for his sweet swing, but the third pick of the 2007 draft stalled out as his ability to swing the bat wasn't paired up with an ability to see the ball. It seemed like he was finally back on track with a much-improved second season at Double-A and then an eye-popping year at Triple-A Iowa, but in 109 plate appearances with the big club he was barely able to keep his slugging above the Mendoza line. The Cubs have no heir apparent at third base, and they aren't going anywhere in 2013, so they can give Vitters another chance to show he can put it together for them.
2012 Normally, fielding percentage is a statistic to be avoided in any serious discussion, but Vitters has struggled to keep his over the .900 mark as a third baseman (.906 in his minor-league career), meaning that he makes, on average, one error per 10 chances. FRAA doesn't think much more of his efforts at the hot corner, nor do scouting reports. His bat finally showed signs of life in 2011 as Vitters made hard contact on all sorts of pitches, as has been expected of him since draft day. But you have to hit home runs like Mark Reynolds if you field like Mark Reynolds and expect to play, so Vitters had better start channeling Ron Santo while afield.
2011 After an okay first month in Daytona, the Cubs exchanged their top prospect with a rushed Ryan Flaherty at Double-A, doing him no favor with the premature assignment. Against much older and much more advanced competition, Vitters showed poor strike-zone judgment and sloppy play at third before a broken finger squelched any shot at regular-season redemption. He disappointed again in the AFL, delivering tepid results at the plate while making a few appearances at first base. Vitters' youth only excuses so much; at some point, the sweet swing he's been expected to show off ever since he was the third overall pick in 2007 has to start showing up in games.
2010 Two seasons since being tabbed as the third overall pick in the draft, the 20-year-old Vitters has accomplished a lot. Always known as a natural hitter, he blew through Peoria, exhibiting both burgeoning power and the ability to post a high average before suffering a hand injury and struggling in his High-A debut. A few questions remain, however, most notably his walk rate and ability to stay at the hot corner. He drew only 12 free passes all season, but scouts attribute that to his ability to hit anything thrown near him—Vitters’ plate coverage rivals that of the Belgian waffle special at Arizona Charlie’s. The Cubs remain convinced his future is at third base, but many scouts aren’t so sure. There’s little question Vitters will be a major-league hitter, but if he has to move across the diamond and doesn’t draw a few more walks, a .300/.340/.500 line at first base will make him something less than an elite player.
2009 The much-loved top pick of the team in '07 worked his way through an initial hand issue to shine in the Northwest League, showing power and a smooth stroke before his 19th birthday. He still has a lot to learn in terms of hitting for power and his footwork around the bag, but a good work ethic should give the organization and fans alike reason to look forward to his first full season with Low-A Peoria.
2008 Vitters was the third overall pick in last June's amateur draft. Scouts love his bat speed and quick hands and expect him to develop into a Howie Kendrick-type of bat. They also think he's more likely than not to become a decent third baseman. Our highly experimental PECOTA dings him a bit for his brief, unproductive pro debut in the rookie leagues and the somewhat mixed track record of past high school third basemen, but apart from the obvious conclusion that Vitters is liable to take several years to develop, there's no reason to be worried at this stage.

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DateQuestionAnswer
2014-05-13 11:00:00 (link to chat)Josh Vitters' failure is due to: 1 -- Inability to adjust to better pitching 2 -- Decision not to go to college 3 -- Lousy coaching in minors 4 -- Poor oversight from Cubs FO
(eliyahu from DC)
1. (Jason Parks)
2013-04-04 11:00:00 (link to chat)Wither Josh Vitters? A late bloomer a la Alex Gordon, or a bust (relative to expectations)?
(eliyahu from Washington, DC)
I don't see it happening. (Jason Parks)
2013-01-16 13:30:00 (link to chat)Are there any prospects, off the top of your head, who would benefit greatly from a "change of scenery"?
(jlarsen from Chicago )
I think one player that already received that was Andy Oliver, who went from the Tigers to the Pirates. He still has a big fastball from the left side and it just wasn't working with the Detroit developmental staff.

Though it's unlikely to happen because of the state of the organization, I think Josh Vitters could be helped by a trip to another organization. I still haven't given up on him being a solid big leaguer. (Mark Anderson)
2012-08-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)Do you expect Starlin Castro to switch positions any time soon? If so, when and to where?
(sitdancer from DC)
The Cubs are popular today.

I do believe Castro will change positions within the next three years. Ideally, you would slide Castro to center field and be done with it. The problem is he doesn’t seem to profile well out there. That leaves third base or second base as the most likely locations. You’d like to think at least one of Josh Vitters and Christian Villanueva will develop, so I would guess Castro winds up at second base. (R.J. Anderson)
2012-07-03 14:00:00 (link to chat)What is Josh Vitters missing? .301/.352/.514 at Iowa, and Luis Valbuena is keeping him away?
(Geo from Garland)
Experience and track record. This is the first year Vitters is truly living up to expectations, and the Cubs (rightfully) don't want to rush him to fast, especially when they're not winning anything this year anyway. He has just 300 AB under his belt at Triple-A, so more seasoning would do him some good. Still, I wouldn't be surprised to see him in August or, at the very least, September if he continues like this. (Derek Carty)
2012-05-21 14:00:00 (link to chat)Josh Vitters: Not as good as hyped or just taking longer than most to figure it out. (Please don't say a little of both.)
(eliyahu from Washington DC)
It really could be a little of both. (Kevin Goldstein)
2012-02-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)Is Brandon Drury similar to Josh Vitters in their hitting approach? Do you see either gaining enough discipline to contribute as a starter in MLB?
(BrowningNagle from Louisville, KY)
Drury is good, but I don't think he's in Vitter's zip code. (Kevin Goldstein)
2011-08-10 13:00:00 (link to chat)What is your current call on one Josh Vitters? He's squaring the ball up but BBs still lacking.
(Matt from Chicago)
He's never going to walk. He loves to swing and has one of the better raw hit tools in the minors. If only he could work himself into quality hitting environments he could hit .300 at the major league level. It's not going to happen and its a huge waste (Jason Parks)
2011-06-06 23:00:00 (link to chat)Do you think Baez was a reach at 9? Every one says bat speed bat speed bat speed but that's what they said about Josh Vitters.
(Eric from Chicago)
He's got crazy great bat speed, but is also a much better all-around athlete than Vitters. (Kevin Goldstein II)
2010-06-23 19:00:00 (link to chat)Do you buy the scouting line that Josh Vitters has such incredible plate coverage that we shouldn't be concerned about his inability to draw walks? The same was said about Hanley back in the day, and that turned out okay.
(Keith from Villa Park)
I dunno. I saw him play when he was with Peoria. Swung the stick real nice. The trick with drawing walks is that they're valuable in and of themselves, but they're also indicative of being able to pick which pitches you can really do something with, and which you should just let go by you. As he goes up the ranks he's going to eventually find pitchers who can challenge him; the trick is to see how he adjusts. (Colin Wyers)
2010-01-04 14:00:00 (link to chat)The Cubs will not compete for a WS until Starlin Castro and Josh Vitters are performing on league minimum contracts. That said, if the fans would allow it, do you think the Cubs would rebuild right now?
(Jack from Chicago)
Well, forget about the fans for a second, it's their contracts that won't allow it. They have just a ridiculous amount of money tied up for the next two years, and not only are they bad deals, but Hendry handed out no-trade clauses like they were business cards. They're really kind of screwed. (Kevin Goldstein)
2009-12-29 15:00:00 (link to chat)Melky and Randall Delgado for Josh Vitters. Who says no? Braves get unload one of their several teenage arms for a more solid position prospect, Cubs get their CF. Braves clear $3M while dealing from their wealth of CFers.
(sunpar from New York)
That would be funny, like regifting a coffee table book for a Secret Santa and receiving a Wii in exchange. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-11-17 14:00:00 (link to chat)How concerned are you about Josh Vitters lack of walks?
(Ben F. from California)
I am concerned, in that he's the type of talent where it's the hardest to teach plate discipline. He honestly doesn't swing at a lot of bad pitches, his plate coverage is that good, but he needs to find a way to at least get into more hitter's counts. (Kevin Goldstein)
2009-05-28 14:00:00 (link to chat)If Josh Vitters were called up today, would he hold his own or be overwhelmed (if it's possible to overwhelm that bat)?
(Henry from bedroom)
He would be absolutely horrible. He's in the Midwest League, it's all about potential. No way, no how he could hit in the big leagues right now. (Kevin Goldstein)
2009-04-08 15:00:00 (link to chat)So it's Josh Vitters and a vast wasteland of nothingness on the Cubs farm? I can see that. But given the pretty decent chance that vitters is traded for some part to win this year, shouldn't his odds be a little worse to be the cubs' top prospect next year? Not looking forward to 2012...
(Mike from Chicago)
Or is his chance of being traded even less because he's ALL THE CUBS HAVE? Interesting question. (Kevin Goldstein)
2008-09-03 14:00:00 (link to chat)Does Josh Vitters retain top 50 prospect status after a great second half of the year? I have to admit, I was already about to call him a bust in June.
(Matt S from Chicago)
Josh Vitters can RAKE. Totally RAKE. Love, love, love him. (Kevin Goldstein)
2008-08-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)This cake is great. It's so delicious and moist... by the way, Josh Vitters is attempting to tie the NWL record with a 26 game hitting streak today. How is he not getting talked about?
(GLaDOS from Aperture Science)
He's a stud, he can really hit. There, how's that? Seriously though, and I said this before he was drafted. You know who Vitters kind of reminds me of? Howie Kendrick with a little more pop. (Kevin Goldstein)
2008-07-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)Your Future Shocks this year have been almost completely devoid of Cubs players, and the ones that do make it in are usually due to negative performance. This is a bad sign, right?
(Henry from New Jersey)
Bad system. If someone put up some big numbers, they'd make it. Here's some good news: Josh Vitters was a late cut in today's Ten Pack -- he's healthy, playing every day in Boise and raking. Music update: my girlfriend is now blasting Peaches. (Kevin Goldstein)
2008-07-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)How does Josh Vitters compare to Braun/Gamel defensively(3B)? Is "average" his defensive ceiling? As a Cubs fan, it's really exciting to see him hit the ball well, but he doesn't walk that much. Does that say something about his eye, or is it common for the younger players to be overly aggressive and develop more patience later on? It seems that being more selective can only help you. (Follow up: Do the guys in Seattle teach their players not to walk? It's ridiculous!!!)
(Matt from Cube Farm)
I do think he'll be a solid but unspectacular defensive third baseman, which is WAY more than Braun or Gamel -- those guys are both in the lawn ornament category over there. Don't worry about the walks -- there is no guarantee that they will come, but he's one of those guys who does need to learn how to lay off some pitches, because in high school, he could hit anything, anywhere. The one guy he might remind me most of offensively might be, as strange as this sounds, Howie Kendrick. (Kevin Goldstein)
2008-06-26 13:00:00 (link to chat)What would the Cubs need to give up to land Sabathia? I would they they'd need to include Marmol at least.
(John from Maryland)
They don't have enough. Pie's value has cratered, and Josh Vitters hasn't lived up to the hype. Shapiro's too smart to trade Sabathia for a package centered around a reliever. (Dayn Perry)
2008-05-21 13:00:00 (link to chat)So, Josh Vitters. Is he already a bust?
(Brian from Chicago)
Sure, absolutely. Who needs more than 65 at-bats to judge anyone? (Kevin Goldstein)
2008-03-03 13:00:00 (link to chat)What is Josh Vitters's ceiling? Any comparable young major leaguers right now? What do you imagine the line for his peak season being?
(Matt from Saint Paul)
Howie Kendrick with a little more juice? It's a weird one, but the combination of great plate converage, tons of contact ability and good power brings that to mind. (Kevin Goldstein)


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