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Career Summary
Years PA AVG OBP SLG TAv WARP
17 8220 .266 .371 .424 .296 56.6
Birth Date1-15-1949
Height6' 2"
Weight180 lbs
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WARP Summary

Standard

YEAR TEAM AGE G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR TB BB SO HBP SF SH RBI SB CS AVG OBP SLG TAv VORP FRAA WARP
1970 BAL 21 30 104 95 11 20 1 3 0 27 9 21 0 0 0 8 1 1 .211 .279 .284 .203 -2.8 2.5 -0.0
1971 BAL 22 7 35 30 7 9 0 0 1 12 5 8 0 0 0 6 1 0 .300 .400 .400 .333 3.8 0.4 0.5
1972 BAL 23 133 528 460 66 128 21 3 12 191 53 96 7 5 3 50 13 6 .278 .358 .415 .306 36.9 0.9 4.5
1973 BAL 24 162 700 581 82 146 29 7 12 225 107 91 7 2 3 50 17 9 .251 .373 .387 .291 40.8 12.5 5.7
1974 BAL 25 160 707 582 92 153 29 6 19 251 90 117 20 8 7 82 17 11 .263 .376 .431 .306 52.2 0.4 5.8
1975 BAL 26 150 655 524 81 136 26 4 13 209 107 88 8 7 9 57 14 10 .260 .389 .399 .306 50.4 -3.8 5.0
1976 BAL 27 144 615 518 93 138 31 4 13 216 86 99 3 1 7 54 14 6 .266 .373 .417 .304 42.1 -5.9 4.1
1977 CAL 28 52 225 181 24 44 6 0 7 71 37 40 1 3 3 23 6 6 .243 .369 .392 .291 15.6 -0.0 1.6
1978 CAL 29 144 591 487 68 122 16 2 6 160 75 83 7 3 19 42 4 3 .251 .357 .329 .264 12.5 9.0 2.4
1979 CAL 30 153 609 534 78 157 30 5 30 287 59 84 2 2 12 101 1 0 .294 .365 .537 .317 52.8 -2.2 5.2
1980 CAL 31 150 596 498 60 135 22 2 14 203 84 108 4 5 5 62 3 7 .271 .377 .408 .280 20.4 7.2 2.9
1981 CAL 32 100 404 352 56 107 14 2 22 191 40 71 4 3 5 61 2 4 .304 .378 .543 .348 43.2 7.1 5.6
1982 CAL 33 145 605 506 74 132 28 5 19 227 82 109 8 3 6 65 3 3 .261 .371 .449 .287 25.6 -4.3 2.3
1983 CAL 34 120 477 387 65 113 17 0 16 178 76 62 7 3 4 62 2 4 .292 .414 .460 .313 40.6 4.9 4.8
1984 CAL 35 116 432 363 60 93 15 1 18 164 57 70 2 4 6 58 2 5 .256 .357 .452 .297 29.1 -9.1 2.1
1985 CAL 36 144 571 479 74 116 17 3 13 178 81 77 3 0 8 53 3 5 .242 .355 .372 .264 18.4 3.8 2.3
1986 CAL 37 98 366 313 42 84 18 0 9 129 39 54 3 1 10 30 1 3 .268 .354 .412 .283 22.2 -5.9 1.7
Career2008822068901033183332047224291910871278865010786410483.266.371.424.296503.717.656.6

Advanced

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg G PA TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP BPF BRAA repLVL POS_ADJ FRAA BRR BVORP BWARP VORP WARP
1970 BAL MLB 30 104 .203 .247 .321 .369 .254 .270 99 -5.9 2.8 0.8 2.5 -0.2 -2.8 -0.0 -2.8 -0.0
1971 BAL MLB 7 35 .333 .257 .321 .382 .265 .381 101 2.3 0.9 0.3 0.4 0.5 3.8 0.5 3.8 0.5
1972 BAL MLB 133 528 .306 .239 .303 .344 .253 .325 94 21 12.4 2.4 0.9 1.3 36.9 4.5 36.9 4.5
1973 BAL MLB 162 700 .291 .262 .328 .385 .265 .279 96 21.6 18.5 -0.9 12.5 0.6 40.8 5.7 40.8 5.7
1974 BAL MLB 160 707 .306 .258 .319 .371 .260 .295 95 31.8 18.3 -0.8 0.4 4.2 52.2 5.8 52.2 5.8
1975 BAL MLB 150 655 .306 .257 .323 .381 .261 .286 94 29.5 17.2 -0.8 -3.8 2.9 50.4 5.0 50.4 5.0
1976 BAL MLB 144 615 .304 .254 .313 .358 .257 .307 91 25.8 15.5 -0.8 -5.9 2.9 42.1 4.1 42.1 4.1
1977 CAL MLB 52 225 .291 .269 .331 .411 .265 .270 93 7.3 6.3 2.9 -0.0 -0.3 15.6 1.6 15.6 1.6
1978 CAL MLB 144 591 .264 .260 .324 .382 .264 .289 97 2.1 15.4 -0.7 9.0 -1.1 12.5 2.4 12.5 2.4
1979 CAL MLB 153 609 .317 .271 .331 .412 .267 .301 96 36.2 17.1 -0.8 -2.2 1.0 52.8 5.2 52.8 5.2
1980 CAL MLB 150 596 .280 .266 .324 .392 .262 .318 99 12 16.0 -0.9 7.2 -3.6 20.4 2.9 20.4 2.9
1981 CAL MLB 100 404 .348 .254 .317 .368 .260 .324 98 33.3 10.2 -0.5 7.1 0.0 43.2 5.6 43.2 5.6
1982 CAL MLB 145 605 .287 .263 .325 .403 .266 .297 99 16.1 16.3 -0.8 -4.3 -3.0 25.6 2.3 25.6 2.3
1983 CAL MLB 120 477 .313 .265 .326 .401 .266 .311 100 25.4 13.0 -0.6 4.9 2.6 40.6 4.8 40.6 4.8
1984 CAL MLB 116 432 .297 .262 .326 .393 .265 .269 94 15.9 11.6 -1.1 -9.1 2.4 29.1 2.1 29.1 2.1
1985 CAL MLB 144 571 .264 .261 .326 .406 .267 .265 95 2 15.6 -1.6 3.8 0.6 18.4 2.3 18.4 2.3
1986 CAL MLB 98 366 .283 .266 .331 .411 .269 .299 96 8.6 10.1 -1 -5.9 -0.7 22.2 1.7 22.2 1.7

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG ISO TAv VORP FRAA WARP
1970 BAL MLB 104 11 20 1 3 0 8 9 21 1 1 .211 .279 .284 .074 .203 -2.8 2.5 -0.0
1971 BAL MLB 35 7 9 0 0 1 6 5 8 1 0 .300 .400 .400 .100 .333 3.8 0.4 0.5
1972 BAL MLB 528 66 128 21 3 12 50 53 96 13 6 .278 .358 .415 .137 .306 36.9 0.9 4.5
1973 BAL MLB 700 82 146 29 7 12 50 107 91 17 9 .251 .373 .387 .136 .291 40.8 12.5 5.7
1974 BAL MLB 707 92 153 29 6 19 82 90 117 17 11 .263 .376 .431 .168 .306 52.2 0.4 5.8
1975 BAL MLB 655 81 136 26 4 13 57 107 88 14 10 .260 .389 .399 .139 .306 50.4 -3.8 5.0
1976 BAL MLB 615 93 138 31 4 13 54 86 99 14 6 .266 .373 .417 .151 .304 42.1 -5.9 4.1
1977 CAL MLB 225 24 44 6 0 7 23 37 40 6 6 .243 .369 .392 .149 .291 15.6 -0.0 1.6
1978 CAL MLB 591 68 122 16 2 6 42 75 83 4 3 .251 .357 .329 .078 .264 12.5 9.0 2.4
1979 CAL MLB 609 78 157 30 5 30 101 59 84 1 0 .294 .365 .537 .243 .317 52.8 -2.2 5.2
1980 CAL MLB 596 60 135 22 2 14 62 84 108 3 7 .271 .377 .408 .137 .280 20.4 7.2 2.9
1981 CAL MLB 404 56 107 14 2 22 61 40 71 2 4 .304 .378 .543 .239 .348 43.2 7.1 5.6
1982 CAL MLB 605 74 132 28 5 19 65 82 109 3 3 .261 .371 .449 .188 .287 25.6 -4.3 2.3
1983 CAL MLB 477 65 113 17 0 16 62 76 62 2 4 .292 .414 .460 .168 .313 40.6 4.9 4.8
1984 CAL MLB 432 60 93 15 1 18 58 57 70 2 5 .256 .357 .452 .196 .297 29.1 -9.1 2.1
1985 CAL MLB 571 74 116 17 3 13 53 81 77 3 5 .242 .355 .372 .129 .264 18.4 3.8 2.3
1986 CAL MLB 366 42 84 18 0 9 30 39 54 1 3 .268 .354 .412 .144 .283 22.2 -5.9 1.7

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT

Injury History

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
1983-08-29 1983-10-03 35 32 Left Hand Fracture - -
1981-06-07 1981-08-10 15-DL 64 5 - Hand Fracture - -
1977-06-09 1977-10-03 116 110 - Low Back Surgery Herniated Disk 1977-07-04 -

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BP Articles

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The BP Wayback Machine: Fourteen Years of Brian RobertsBP Prospect Staff2014-10-21
This article requires BP Premium accessThe HOF Rule Change: What Happens After 10 Years?Mike Gianella2014-07-28
This article requires BP Premium accessIn A Pickle: All-Stars Are Not All StarsJason Wojciechowski2013-02-21
This article requires BP Premium accessPebble Hunting: When the Teams That Don't Have Hall of Famers Yet Will Have Hall of FamersSam Miller2013-01-10
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Hit and Run: Fat Elvis' Swan SongJay Jaffe2012-08-31
Future Shock Blog: Draft Day Dream CrushingKevin Goldstein2012-06-04
This article requires BP Premium accessOverthinking It: The Overlooked Overlooked Hall of FamersBen Lindbergh2012-02-02
This article requires BP Premium accessFuture Shock: Twins Top 11 ProspectsKevin Goldstein2011-11-03
Wezen-Ball: Player Rankings for Type A/B Calculations, 1982-1984Larry Granillo2011-11-02
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Hit and Run: Stuck in the Middle with YouJay Jaffe2011-07-25
BP Unfiltered: The Hallworthy Alomar and BlylevenJay Jaffe2011-07-23
The Lineup Card: Cult Favorites: 18 Non-Star Ballplayers Who Should be Better RememberedBaseball Prospectus2011-07-13
Wezen-Ball: Numbers That Should Be RetiredLarry Granillo2011-07-01
BP Unfiltered: The Paper Trail 4/30John Perrotto2011-04-30
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Q&A: Bob KipperDavid Laurila2011-01-04
Prospectus Perspective: Bagging on BagwellChristina Kahrl2010-12-31
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Hit and Run: Class of 2011: Edgar MartinezJay Jaffe2010-12-30
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Hit and Run: Class of 2011: Alomar's Second ChanceJay Jaffe2010-12-28
Prospectus Hit and Run: The Class of 2011: Bagwell and BaggageJay Jaffe2010-12-23
One-Hoppers: The Snubbed Cub: Ron Santo (1940-2010)Jay Jaffe2010-12-03
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Hit and Run: Examining The Expansion Era Hall of Fame BallotJay Jaffe2010-11-10
BP Unfiltered: Five Minutes with Larry ParrishDavid Laurila2010-10-30
You Can Blog It Up: The Shockingly Non-Bunty Gene Mauch All-StarsSteven Goldman2010-08-14
Prospectus Q&A: On Trammell and WhitakerDavid Laurila2010-08-13
BP Podcast: Episode 10: With Awesome FedoraKevin Goldstein2010-07-28
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Hit and Run: Don't Call it the Veterans' CommitteeJay Jaffe2010-07-28
One-Hoppers: Rolen Towards Cooperstown?Jay Jaffe2010-05-25
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Hit and Run: O-Dog Waits, Edmonds CampaignsJay Jaffe2010-01-22
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Hit and Run: 10 Men OutJay Jaffe2010-01-13
Prospectus Hit and Run: Hawk, Rock, and a Couple of ShocksJay Jaffe2010-01-07
Prospectus Hit and Run: Hall of Fame Cases at Third and ShortJay Jaffe2009-12-23
Prospectus Hit and Run: Alomar, the Crime Dog, the Big Cat and Big MacJay Jaffe2009-12-21
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Hit and Run: Vlad and the Right FieldersJay Jaffe2009-08-19
Prospectus Hit and Run: How is the Air Up There?Jay Jaffe2009-08-13
This article requires BP Premium accessYou Could Look It Up: Bruised but Unbowed?Steven Goldman2009-06-24
Prospectus Hit and Run: Tales in a Minor KeyJay Jaffe2009-04-22
This article requires BP Premium accessFuture Shock: Twins Top 11 ProspectsKevin Goldstein2009-02-19
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Hit and Run: The Curious Case of Jeff KentJay Jaffe2009-01-27
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Hit and Run: Protracting the ProcessJay Jaffe2009-01-22
This article requires BP Premium accessTransaction Analysis: Deadline Day Wrap-UpChristina Kahrl2008-08-01
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Matchups: Late Standing StartsJim Baker2008-06-20
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Hit and Run: The Life and Times of Buzzie Bavasi, Part TwoJay Jaffe2008-05-14
This article requires BP Premium accessSchrodinger's Bat: Reminiscing with SFR, the SequelDan Fox2008-04-03
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Matchups: The FreshmenJim Baker2007-11-30
This article requires BP Premium accessLies, Damned Lies: The Best Player in Baseball, Part TwoNate Silver2007-09-21
This article requires BP Premium accessLies, Damned Lies: The Best Player in Baseball, Part OneNate Silver2007-09-20
This article requires BP Premium accessLies, Damned Lies: Rookies and CyclesNate Silver2007-08-23
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Hit and Run: Milestoners and the New New Veterans CommitteeJay Jaffe2007-08-14
This article requires BP Premium accessJAWS Returns: Cooperstown MusingsJay Jaffe2007-05-21
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Today: Punching Jeff Kent's TicketJoe Sheehan2007-04-26
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Q&A: Pete PalmerDavid Laurila2007-03-11
This article requires BP Premium accessGrumpy Old Men: JAWS Tackles the Veterans Committee BallotJay Jaffe2007-02-26
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Matchups: The Column ReversersJim Baker2007-02-09
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Q&A: Bill JamesDavid Laurila2007-01-16
This article requires BP Premium accessThe Class of 2007: The Hitters, Part TwoJay Jaffe2007-01-08
Prospectus Matchups: October MusingsJim Baker2006-10-06
Prospectus Today: On EdmondsJoe Sheehan2006-04-21
This article requires BP Premium accessJAWS 2006: From the MailbagJay Jaffe2006-01-30
This article requires BP Premium accessLies, Damned Lies: Forecasting the Future: MicrocultureNate Silver2005-06-15
This article requires BP Premium accessRoberto Alomar Calls It Quits: Within Spitting Distance of the Hall of FameJay Jaffe2005-03-21
The Class of 2005: The HittersJay Jaffe2004-12-16
Marginal Payroll/Marginal Wins: 1977-1979Doug Pappas2004-03-09
Aim For The Head: Memory LaneKeith Woolner2004-02-11
Swinging for the Hall, Part 2: A Non-HOF All-Star TeamMichael Wolverton2002-09-18
Hall Of Fame Roundtable: Commentary on this year's candidatesChristina Kahrl2000-11-30
Hall Of Fame Roundtable: Commentary on this year's candidatesGary Huckabay2000-11-30


BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2013-11-08 14:00:00 (link to chat)How in the hell is Bobby Grich not in the HOF?
(John from LA)
Voters thought walks were for sissies. (Ben Lindbergh)
2013-05-24 14:00:00 (link to chat)How in the world is Bobby Grich not in the HOF?
(Bob from LA)
Combination of voters not doing a good job adjusting for ballpark/era, and his skill set being exactly the type of skill set that gets overlooked: Excellent defense at second base with loads of walks and ballpark-suppressing power. It's not just that he didn't get into the Hall of Fame; when I was at the OCR, the writers there thought I was absolutely out of my mind for suggesting he should. Seriously, they looked at it as though I were making a case for Jose Vidro. Really. (Sam Miller)
2013-01-22 13:00:00 (link to chat)How in the world is Bobby Grich not in the HOF?
(John from LA)
John, I'm not much of a HOF guy so I don't feel qualified to answer this one. (R.J. Anderson)
2013-01-11 14:00:00 (link to chat)To me, the most overlooked thing regarding the results of the voting is Kenny Lofton's not receiving the requisite 5% of the vote to remain on the ballot. 1. Do you think in a regular year without a polarizing issue like steroids, would he have received the vote? 2. Now that he can only be inducted by the veterans committee, what do you think his chances are? 3. Do you think his bouncing around from team to team later in his career hurts the voter's perception of him? I think it's very unfortunate that he won't stay on the ballot. I'm one who, after reading your analysis and through my own observation of him when he was active, certainly would get my vote if I had one.
(Mike Shumka from Milton, Ontario)
I think Lofton suffers less because of the steroid protest than the size of the crowd on the ballot and the fact that a certain segment of the electorate dramatically undervalues walks and defense. Nearly all of the Hall's recent injustices fit into that pattern - think of Ron Santo, Bobby Grich and Tim Raines, for example.

Lofton will have a long wait ahead of him if his cause is taken up by the Veterans Committee. Among center field contemporaries, Jim Edmonds, Andruw Jones and Carlos Beltran will all have their cases taken up by the BBWAA, and they've got reasonable merits and similar JAWS scores too. (Jay Jaffe on the Hall of Fame)
2013-01-11 14:00:00 (link to chat)When the dust clears, do you see Lou Whitaker getting in to the Hall?
(Yefrem from Canada)
Eventually, I think there's a good chance Trammell, Whitaker and Morris are all enshrined via the Veterans Committee process. I have Whitaker a bit below the JAWS standard and below Bobby Grich (http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/jaws_2B.shtml), but he's above on career and we're talking numbers to the right of the decimal overall - a false precision, basically.

It's probably too late given the current crowd of candidates, but I'd like to have seen Whitaker get back onto the BBWAA ballot via a similar amnesty to what put Ron Santo on the ballot in 1985 after he went 1-and-done in 1980. (Jay Jaffe on the Hall of Fame)
2012-02-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)How does Bobby Grich not get more notice regarding the HOF? Is he a candidate for reconsideration down the line, like by a Veterans Committee or something? And finally, is there a GM who would take Bill Mazeroski over Grich, given that hypothetical choice?
(Jape from Portland)
I'm not sure why he hasn't even gotten on the Veterans Committee ballot - his career ended more than 21 years ago, so he shouldn't have any logistical obstacles.

As much as I love Grich, I'm sure there exist GMs who would have chosen Maz over Grich. For as good as the latter was, the former was a better defender according to both reputation and sabermetric consensus, and somebody wouldn't have bothered to consider that the offensive gap was greater. (Jay Jaffe)
2010-08-26 13:00:00 (link to chat)Good point about Braun vs. LHP. Bobby Grich had one year (1980 or thereabouts) where he hit .162 against lefties. Every other year of his career he had a normal platoon split for a righthanded regular.
(Rex Little from Big Bear CA)
Exactly! These things happen, and given he's still crushing righties, it's tough to get too upset about his future based on just over 100 PA against pitchers he normally destroys. (Marc Normandin)
2010-01-06 13:00:00 (link to chat)As an older Mets fan who fondly remembers Ventura for his grand slam single, and a young baseball fan who fondly remembers Ventura for charging Nolan Ryan. He deserved better than being one and done, right?
(J.P. from Hartford)
Absolutely. I'm not convinced yet that he belongs, but as with Will Clark, Lou Whitaker, Dwight Evans, Bobby Grich and several others, I certainly feel the debate should have gone on a whole lot longer before anyone made up their minds. (Jay Jaffe)
2010-01-06 13:00:00 (link to chat)Off the top of your head, who are two or three very credible options for the Hall that few casual fans or even BP readers would see as such? Will Clark? Trammell? In other words, in your extensive research on the topic, who's really surprised you with good candidancies?
(Grant from Chicago)
Bobby Grich is one. Will Clark another. Bill Dahlen and Rick Reuschel are two guys whose JAWS scores are near the line that nobody ever thinks of. Dahlen I can see, Reuschel I'm not even convinced of. (Jay Jaffe)
2009-10-28 14:00:00 (link to chat)I know it's early, but how do Utley's HoF chances look so far?
(dtwhite from Toronto)
On the one hand, he's got five years towards a very solid peak score, he's got a ring and some All-Star appearances, and he's just finishing his Age 30 season.

On the other hand, the bar for second basemen in the Hall is unusually high - Bobby Grich and Lou Whitaker can't even get in - and there's a Nate Silver study that showed that second basemen tend to peak earlier and have shorter careers than other position players. Utley's had injury concerns over the past few years, and I worry if that will take its toll down the road.

Which would be a damn shame, because he's one of my favorite players to watch. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-09-10 13:00:00 (link to chat)Jay, Do you think of the players on the new Veteran's Committee ballot belong in the HOF? Thanks for chatting.
(collins from greenville nc)
I think Bill Dahlen does, and I'd be willing to consider Joe Gordon given the impact of World War II service on his career, but I'm far more interested in seeing cases like Bobby Grich, Lou Whitaker and Dwight Evans come up for a vote than some of these oldtimers. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-07-24 13:00:00 (link to chat)Does the recent hot streak make you think differently about Dustin Pedroia going forward? Theres not much time in the majors to look at so I wonder if he's taking a step forward or if this is just one of those blips that happens over the course of 162. Thanks, Ms. Kahrl.
(mattymatty from Philly)
It would be somewhat ironic if we had the new Bobby Grich on our hands, yet we in the analysis community shrank from identifying him until he already made it imminent. (Christina Kahrl)


BP Roundtables

DateRoundtable NameComment
2009-10-16 13:00:00NLCS Game Two/ALCS Game OnePopup city for the Dodgers.

adambennett (MD Backgammon Tourney): Abreu for the HoF? A couple more good seasons should do it, right?

Assuming we're talking about Bobby Abreu and not Tony or Winston, he's further away from the Hall of Fame. I looked at this back in August (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=9416). By those numbers, which don't account for 2009, he was about 17 WARP short on career and a couple WARP shy on peak, but the real problem is that he's just past 2,100 hits at age 35, isn't close to 300 homers (256), has just two All-Star appearances and has never finished higher than 14th in the MVP voting. Plus there's the fact that guys who walk 80 or 100 times a year are exactly the ones who get kicked in the head by the voters, who prefer hackers like Jim Rice and Ryne Sandberg to plate disciples like Ron Santo, Tim Raines and Bobby Grich. (Jay Jaffe)