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2017 Projections (Preseason PECOTA - seasonal age 22)
IP ERA WHIP SO W L SV WARP
104.7 5.46 1.58 55 6 8 0 -0.4
Birth Date9-2-1994
Height5' 11"
Weight190 lbs
Age22 years, 10 months, 24 days
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ThrowsL
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WARP Summary

MLB Statistics

Historical (past-seasons) WARP is now based on DRA..
cFIP and DRA are not available on a by-team basis and display as zeroes(0). See TOT line for season totals of these stats.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP W L SV H BB SO HR oppTAv PPF H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 GB% BABIP TAv WHIP FIP ERA cFIP DRA DRA- WARP

Statistics for All Levels

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP W L SV H BB SO HR oppTAv PPF H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 GB% BABIP TAv WHIP FIP ERA cFIP DRA DRA-
2013 CRD Rk 8 5 22.0 0 3 0 23 9 28 1 .264 105 9.4 3.7 0.4 11.5 53% .373 .244 1.45 2.86 3.68 89 2.95 94.5
2014 PEO A 18 18 100.7 8 2 0 71 31 79 2 .263 90 6.3 2.8 0.2 7.1 53% .239 .208 1.01 3.27 1.88 99 4.23 103.0
2015 LYN A+ 2 2 9.7 0 1 0 13 5 4 0 .256 110 12.1 4.7 0.0 3.7 59% .382 .311 1.86 3.97 3.72 105 3.79 101.1
2015 PMB A+ 17 17 94.7 6 5 0 82 28 79 0 .255 95 7.8 2.7 0.0 7.5 63% .291 .222 1.16 2.51 2.09 93 4.19 103.2
2016 AKR AA 25 25 137.0 11 7 0 122 48 92 7 .265 103 8.0 3.2 0.5 6.0 55% .277 .246 1.24 3.90 3.28 108 5.01 109.1
2017 AKR AA 1 1 5.0 0 1 0 6 2 1 0 .282 93 10.8 3.6 0.0 1.8 58% .316 .283 1.60 4.04 9.00 101 4.35 95.4

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT

Injury History  —  No longer being updated

Last Update: 12/31/2014 23:59 ET

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation

Compensation

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2017 Preseason Forecast

Last Update: 1/27/2017 12:35 ET

PCT W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR BABIP WHIP ERA DRA VORP WARP
90o 7.9 7.5 0 23 23 124.7 117 45 65 16 .255 1.29 4.31 4.56 10.0 1.1
80o 7.2 7.5 0 22 22 117.6 118 45 61 16 .268 1.39 4.69 4.96 4.5 0.5
70o 6.7 7.5 0 21 21 112.6 119 45 59 16 .277 1.46 4.98 5.26 0.7 0.1
60o 6.3 7.5 0 20 20 108.4 119 45 57 16 .286 1.52 5.22 5.52 -2.3 -0.2
50o 5.9 7.5 0 20 20 104.6 119 46 55 16 .294 1.58 5.46 5.77 -4.9 -0.5
40o 5.5 7.5 0 19 19 100.8 119 46 53 16 .301 1.64 5.69 6.02 -7.4 -0.8
30o 5.2 7.5 0 18 18 96.9 119 46 50 16 .310 1.70 5.95 6.29 -9.9 -1.1
20o 4.7 7.4 0 17 17 92.3 119 46 48 16 .320 1.79 6.26 6.61 -12.5 -1.4
10o 4.2 7.3 0 16 16 86.2 119 45 45 16 .333 1.90 6.69 7.07 -15.9 -1.7
Weighted Mean5.97.502020104.4118455416.2921.565.435.74-4.6-0.5

2017 Rest-of-Season Forecast

Last Update: 7/26/2017 11:07 ET

PCT W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR BABIP WHIP ERA DRA VORP WARP
90o 7.9 7.5 0 23 23 124.7 117 45 65 16 .254 1.29 4.27 4.55 10.2 1.1
80o 7.2 7.5 0 22 22 117.6 118 45 61 16 .268 1.39 4.65 4.95 4.6 0.5
70o 6.7 7.5 0 21 21 112.6 119 45 59 16 .277 1.46 4.94 5.25 0.9 0.1
60o 6.3 7.5 0 20 20 108.4 119 45 57 16 .286 1.52 5.18 5.51 -2.1 -0.2
50o 5.9 7.5 0 20 20 104.6 119 46 55 16 .294 1.58 5.41 5.76 -4.8 -0.5
40o 5.5 7.4 0 19 19 100.8 119 46 53 16 .301 1.64 5.65 6.01 -7.3 -0.8
30o 5.2 7.4 0 18 18 96.8 119 46 50 16 .310 1.70 5.91 6.28 -9.7 -1.1
20o 4.7 7.4 0 17 17 92.3 119 46 48 16 .320 1.79 6.22 6.61 -12.5 -1.4
10o 4.2 7.3 0 16 16 86.1 119 45 45 16 .334 1.90 6.65 7.07 -15.8 -1.7
Weighted Mean5.97.402020104.4118455416.2921.565.395.73-4.5-0.5

Diagnostics

Breakout Rate Improve Rate Collapse Rate Attrition Rate MLB %
7% 19% 9% 21% 38%

Preseason Long-Term Forecast (Beyond the 2017 Projections)

Playing time estimates are based on performance, not Depth Charts.
Year Age W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR GB% BABIP WHIP ERA DRA H/9 BB/9 K/9 HR/9 WARP
2018236902323134139851182350.3011.675.706.069.35.77.91.5-0.8
2019245802020120124751052050.3011.665.686.039.35.67.91.5-0.7
2020254601616929760821550.3091.705.666.019.55.88.01.5-0.5
2021263501313757849701350.3071.705.746.109.45.98.41.6-0.5
2022277802222128121611191650.2941.424.524.808.54.38.41.10.9
2023288902626155151781522250.3041.484.775.078.84.58.81.30.6
20242981102929178173831762950.2971.444.905.218.84.28.91.50.5

Comparable Players (Similarity Index 88)

Rank Score Name Year Run Average Trend
1 95 Omar Poveda 2010 0.00 DNP
2 95 Will Smith 2012 5.42
3 94 Matt Magill 2012 0.00 DNP
4 94 Chorye Spoone 2008 0.00 DNP
5 94 Dan Cortes 2009 0.00 DNP
6 94 Steve Garrison 2009 0.00 DNP
7 94 Kasey Kiker 2010 0.00 DNP
8 94 Jake Buchanan 2012 0.00 DNP
9 93 Jesse Biddle 2014 0.00 DNP
10 93 Jason Adam 2014 0.00 DNP
11 93 Brandon Erbe 2010 0.00 DNP
12 93 David Holmberg 2014 4.80
13 93 Chuck Lofgren 2008 0.00 DNP
14 92 Giovanni Soto 2013 0.00 DNP
15 92 Jarred Cosart 2012 0.00 DNP
16 92 Garrett Gould 2014 0.00 DNP
17 92 Robert Gsellman 2016 2.56
18 92 Mike Foltynewicz 2014 5.30
19 92 Jeanmar Gomez 2010 5.62
20 91 Archie Bradley 2015 5.80
21 91 Carlos Carrasco 2009 9.27
22 91 Zach Eflin 2016 5.97
23 90 Will Inman 2009 0.00 DNP
24 90 Nick Adenhart 2009 0.00
25 90 Alex Cobb 2010 0.00 DNP
26 90 Allen Webster 2012 0.00 DNP
27 90 Tommy Hunter 2009 4.42
28 89 Troy Patton 2008 0.00 DNP
29 89 Manny Banuelos 2013 0.00 DNP
30 89 Jake Thompson 2016 5.70
31 89 Mauricio Robles 2011 0.00 DNP
32 89 Keyvius Sampson 2013 0.00 DNP
33 89 Casey Kelly 2012 7.14
34 89 Jon Moscot 2014 0.00 DNP
35 89 Greg Reynolds 2008 8.42
36 89 Trevor Reckling 2011 0.00 DNP
37 88 Collin Balester 2008 5.96
38 88 Jake McGee 2009 0.00 DNP
39 88 Dallas Trahern 2008 0.00 DNP
40 88 Tim Alderson 2011 0.00 DNP
41 88 Erasmo Ramirez 2012 3.97
42 88 Ian Krol 2013 3.95
43 88 Josh Hader 2016 0.00 DNP
44 88 Alex White 2011 7.36
45 88 Aaron Poreda 2009 2.70
46 88 Jonathan Pettibone 2013 4.49
47 88 Anthony Swarzak 2008 0.00 DNP
48 87 Blake Beavan 2011 4.27
49 87 Vin Mazzaro 2009 6.01
50 87 Carlos Pimentel 2012 0.00 DNP
51 87 Scott Barnes 2010 0.00 DNP
52 87 Robbie Ray 2014 8.16
53 87 Eduardo Rodriguez 2015 4.07
54 87 Cody Buckel 2014 0.00 DNP
55 87 Brady Lail 2016 0.00 DNP
56 87 Kyle Smith 2015 0.00 DNP
57 87 Chris Archer 2011 0.00 DNP
58 87 Lucas Sims 2016 0.00 DNP
59 87 Luis Marte 2009 0.00 DNP
60 87 Nicholas Bucci 2013 0.00 DNP
61 86 Oswaldo Sosa 2008 0.00 DNP
62 86 Adam Miller 2007 0.00 DNP
63 86 Nicholas Struck 2012 0.00 DNP
64 86 Patrick Corbin 2012 4.71
65 86 Clayton Tanner 2010 0.00 DNP
66 86 Juan Oramas 2012 0.00 DNP
67 86 Jeurys Familia 2012 5.84
68 86 Alex Torres 2010 0.00 DNP
69 86 Brandon Maurer 2013 6.60
70 85 Gio Gonzalez 2008 9.00
71 85 Ryan Webb 2008 0.00 DNP
72 85 Franklin Morales 2008 6.39
73 85 Colton Cain 2013 0.00 DNP
74 85 Zach Britton 2010 0.00 DNP
75 85 Severino Gonzalez 2015 7.92
76 85 Anthony Ortega 2008 0.00 DNP
77 85 Johnny Cueto 2008 5.22
78 85 Martin Perez 2013 3.98
79 85 Matt Harrison 2008 6.13
80 85 Zeke Spruill 2012 0.00 DNP
81 85 Zach Davies 2015 3.71
82 85 Shawn Morimando 2015 0.00 DNP
83 85 Zachary Jemiola 2016 0.00 DNP
84 85 Daniel Corcino 2013 0.00 DNP
85 85 Deolis Guerra 2011 0.00 DNP
86 85 Edwin Diaz 2016 2.52
87 85 Aliangel Lopez 2016 0.00 DNP
88 85 Chaz Roe 2009 0.00 DNP
89 85 Henry Owens 2015 5.00
90 85 Tommy Mendoza 2010 0.00 DNP
91 85 Trey McNutt 2012 0.00 DNP
92 85 Matt Heidenreich 2013 0.00 DNP
93 84 Eric Hurley 2008 5.47
94 84 Jordan Walden 2010 2.35
95 84 Tyler Pike 2016 0.00 DNP
96 84 Chase DeJong 2016 0.00 DNP
97 84 Wilfredo Boscan 2012 0.00 DNP
98 84 Nick Kingham 2014 0.00 DNP
99 84 Kyle Crick 2015 0.00 DNP
100 84 Justin Nicolino 2014 0.00 DNP

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BP Annual Player Comments

YearComment
2017 Due to publishing agreements, the 2017 player comments and team essays are only available in the Baseball Prospectus 2017 book (available in hardcopy, and soon e-book and Kindle).
2016 The magician holds up something plain, something ordinary, a hat or a deck of cards or an undersized, 5-foot-11 pitching prospect without upper-end velocity. Then he makes that that ordinary thing do something extraordinary. Kaminsky's turn is a trap-door curveball, a true deceiver with stellar break, one of the best breaking pitches in the minors. Performance at High-A Palm Beach drew solid reviews, and the youngster showed a preternatural ability to induce weak contact and get hitters to put the ball on the ground.

Now, make no mistake: Kaminsky could bust. He could max out at Triple-A. The fastball is straight and he's already dealing with a season cut short by back stiffness. But the Cleveland front office pulled off a pretty slick sleight-of-hand trick here, transforming Joey Wendle into a legitimate left-handed pitching prospect at the low, low cost of feeding Brandon Moss for a half-season. If a team could repeat that trick every night it would get a lot of applause.

2015 Kaminsky handled his full-season debut with remarkable aplomb, using his low-90s fastball, plus curve and developing change to post a miniscule ERA as a teenager in the Midwest League. Whether the vertically challenged lefty can pull the same tricks as he moves up in class is a matter of debate among scouts. Some look askance at his height, iffy command and low strikeout rate and see a future middle reliever, while others expect his curveball to eventually generate enough swing-and-miss to reach his mid-rotation potential. The jury is out, but advanced hitters will render their verdict soon enough.
2014 With Marco Gonzales—a nearly completed product—in their back pocket from the first round, the Cardinals were able to absorb some extra risk in the supplemental round and select Kaminsky in the hopes of convincing him to eschew his North Carolina commitment. The undersized lefty typically pumps his heater in at 89 to 92 mph, but has been clocked at 95. His meal ticket is an excellent curve with plus-plus potential, but he also shows real promise with the changeup, a major plus and a relatively rarity for a high school pick. Projections vary on Kaminsky's ultimate ceiling, but the consensus is a future in the rotation.

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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2016-03-28 13:00:00 (link to chat)Can Rob Kaminsky surprise with more swing and miss stuff as he climbs the ladder? I know that's rare, but he was working on his changeup and loss his feel for that hammer curve he came out of HS with
(Sean99 from Chicago)
Great question. I think Cleveland did a great job netting Kaminsky last year, in the same way I touched on their Pro Scouting Department's great work with Mike Clevinger earlier in the chat.

I do think he will bring out MORE swing/miss, but I don't know if it's like a 8.5-9+ K/9 type guy either--though that's more a byproduct of average fastball (albeit one with good movement) than lack of secondary stuff. I really liked his breaking ball as an amateur, and I thought that he was better than where he was selected. I think his size scared teams off at the time, though especially as a lefty, I'm not as concerned. (Adam McInturff)
2016-03-09 19:00:00 (link to chat)Which group sucks less? Anthony Alford, Rusney Castillo, Manuel Margot, Brett Phillips, Nick Williams,Spencer Adams, Mark Appel, Dylan Cease, Josh Hader, James Kapeielian, Triston McKenzie,Vince Velasquez or Blake Swihart, Jon Singleton, Dansby Swanson, Alex Jackson, Clayton Blackburn,Tyrell Jenkins, Rob Kaminsky, Zach Lee, Keuy Mella, Justin Nicolino, Aaron Nola, Tyler Jay. God these teams are awful.
(Clark from The 19th Hole)
The first group, but you're right, but they're both bad. (Mike Gianella)
2015-07-30 13:00:00 (link to chat)Which prospects have been helped the most by the latest trades?
(atomic dumpling from idk)
I think Jose Peraza will find himself in a really good spot if he does indeed end up in Los Angeles with the Dodgers (is that trade finalized yet? Jeeze). Rob Kaminsky, already a solid pitching prospect has now found himself in one of the best pitching orgs in baseball with Cleveland. Aaron Brooks probably goes from a fringe rotation guy to a legit 4/5 in Oakland.

Those are the biggest ones that stick out to me. (Jeff Long)
2015-06-22 13:00:00 (link to chat)Rank Palm Beach arms Luke Weaver, Alex Reyes, and Rob Kaminsky in terms of stuff and ceiling. Most intriguing position player at Palm Beach?
(Derek from Palm Beach (Florida))
Reyes..............Weaver....Kaminsky. The gap is notable between Reyes and the other two, and that's testament to him not a knock on the other guys. All three are quote good, Kaminsky's ceiling is the lowest, but he knows how to pitch with what he has. Weaver has a little bit better stuff and knows how to use it as well. Reyes is a stud though. He just needs to learn how to use it. (Jeff Moore)
2015-04-06 20:15:00 (link to chat)Hey Craig, who do you have as some of your favorite Low Minor, high ceiling prospects to keep an eye on for 2015, and are looking to acquire before their stock gains recognition this season, ex. Tapia last pre-season or Devers by its conclusion?
(kiper90 from Rochester, NY)
Devers was less one of my low minors favorites than Bret or Ben. Yeyson Yrizarri fits the bill for me, less so for fantasy than real life, though. Some fantasy name to watch would be Wilmer Difo, Rob Kaminsky, Jorge Mateo, Chance Sisco and Magneuris Sierra. (Craig Goldstein)
2015-02-25 14:00:00 (link to chat)I've seen Rob Kaminsky pitch in high school and have never been more impressed by a pitcher. With that said, he's not very tall and I wonder what scouts say about that? Any projection on how high he projects in the Cardinal orginazation?
(dangor from New Jersey)
I also saw Rob Kaminsky pitch in high school - and I'm totally with you. Just a total dream for a high school coach. Kaminsky did everything well. Put every pitch where he wanted and basically just toyed with dudes. There wasn't and isn't much if any projection there, sure. He is what he is for the most part. My thing is - who cares? If WHAT HE IS NOW is a deceptive lefty with 3 above average or better pitches and he's in the low 90's with command... well, that's a pretty good big league pitcher already! What do we want or need to project anything for?

Height didn't bother me much. He keeps the ball down and misses down. When he challenges a guy up his heater can miss bats there and he usually puts it up where it won't be punished or right on the hands. That will play.

Scouts around here loved him. I think the biggest concerns were that going to the wear and tear of a pro schedule he may take a step or two back in velo and/or stuff. Quite possible. Our prospect team guys who saw him weren't as enthusiastic about him as me and they've had more recent views, so it's certainly possible. I see him as a #3-4 starter, personally. Solid average type - and largely feel that way because he doesn't have a big margin for error. I like the pitcher a lot and like what he's about. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see him doubted until he reaches the big leagues and then have a successful career. (Al Skorupa)
2014-11-24 13:00:00 (link to chat)How many of your NL Central Top 25 do you expect to make it on the top 100 list when BP publishes it? Average would be around 16 or 17 assuming talent is evenly distributed, right?
(Mike from Texas)
I did say I'd throw a top 25 NL Central Prospects list out there during this chat. With the understanding this is a work in progress (Mellen and I are starting to dig in on the framework for the Top 101), this is my own personal ranking of the prospects covered in our NL Central rankings:

1. SS Addison Russell
2. 3B Kris Bryant
3. RHP Robert Stephenson
4. OF Jorge Soler
5. OF Albert Almora
6. OF Stephen Piscotty
7. LHP Marco Gonzales
8. RHP Tyler Glasnow
9. RHP Jameson Taillon
10. OF Jesse Winker
11. OF/1B Josh Bell
12. RHP Alex Reyes
13. C Kyle Schwarber
14. RHP Michael Lorenzen
15. SS Orlando Arcia
16. OF Tyrone Taylor
17. OF Billy McKinney
18. RHP Pierce Johnson
19. SS Gleyber Torres
20. RHP Jack Flaherty
21. OF Yorman Rodriguez
22. C Reese McGuire
23. RHP Nick Howard
24. RHP Devin Williams
25. LHP Rob Kaminsky

I think all of those guys will be in the discussion for the 101, and expect there to be some shuffling in order of course. Definitely more than the average of 16 or 17. (NL Central Top 10s With Nick Faleris)
2014-10-23 14:00:00 (link to chat)Thanks for chatting, Doug. I've been told by someone I trust that teen MWL dazzler Rob Kaminsky is very "late" with his arm action and will suffer the consequences soon. So (1) do you see the same problem; and (2) if the problem exist, is it easy, difficult, or impossible to alter? Thanks again!
(golfer Nacho Elvira from 19th hole)
From what I have seen, his arm is a bit on the "late" side but not egregiously so. More concerning to me is the very late rotation of the hips, limiting his hip-shoulder separation as he uses a "hip-whip" strategy for torque, an inefficient technique that can introduce obstacles to repetition. This can be altered, but doing so depends on 1) the organization's outlook on mechanics, and 2) the player's ability to adapt. (Doug Thorburn)
2014-07-22 15:00:00 (link to chat)From the Peoria rotation, would you rather have Rob Kaminsky or Alex Reyes?
(justarobert from Santa Clara)
It's funny you ask. These two guys were probably the most overrated pitchers I've seen this season. I was going in expecting two impact arms, but didn't see it. Reyes has command issues, and there's certainly a chance he ends up in the pen.

Kaminsky, I actually saw earlier this week. He was mostly high 80's. Could reach back for a bit more when he needed it and could certainly pitch, but the FB was flatter than I thought. The CB was good, not great. Didn't get many swings and misses. I was shocked to see his numbers, because the stuff doesn't fit the results. He's a #4 type.

I'd rather have Kaminsky because there's a better chance he's a big league starter, but they're in fairly close proximity. (Jordan Gorosh)
2014-07-03 19:00:00 (link to chat)Who is the Cardinals next great pitcher: Rob Kaminsky, Alex Reyes or someone else?
(scott from az)
I saw Alex Reyes so I'm biased that way. He's got a lot of refining to do still but at 19 he has a big fastball and a hammer with a developing change. I might be in love with him. (Mauricio Rubio)
2014-05-27 11:30:00 (link to chat)New guy, eh? Welcome! We know the Prof goes ga ga over the high ceiling youngsters who are sushi-grade raw. So what would you say your personal bias(es) are regarding prospects?
(Howie from NYC)
I think that's something that we all like. Ceiling talent is impact talent. You want guys who can impact the major leagues, and in a big way. The idea is to produce talent that you're not able to get on the open market.

In terms of my personal biases, I'm privy to lefties with pitchability. Someone like Andrew Heaney, for instance, because he's got an excellent shot of getting outs at the big league level, and for a long time. I also find myself attracted to guys like Rob Kaminsky, who have a legit plus, plus pitch, and feel for the mound. Even though he isn't a big guy, last I checked, you don't get extra points for being tall.

In terms of hitters, I like hit/power guys more than speed. Speed often overrates a prospect, and even though the adage 'you can't teach speed' is certainly true, it's easier to find on the open market than someone who can legitimately hit the baseball. (Jordan Gorosh)
2014-04-01 13:00:00 (link to chat)Marco Gonzales or Rob Kaminsky long term?
(johnorpheus from St. Louis)
I'll take the plus-plus CH every time. I'm a sucker for a high-end changeup. Give me Gonzales despite the weaker FB (Jason Parks)
2014-02-18 14:00:00 (link to chat)Last year the Cardinals LHP looked barren. This year they had Kevin Siegrist and drafted Marco Gonzales and Rob Kaminsky and had Tim Cooney take a step forward. What gives?
(Bubba from St. Louis)
They felt like having a farm system with no weaknesses, I suppose. This is what they do. (Ronit Shah)


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