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Ben and Sam discuss Joe Maddon's value and the ways in which managers might have more or less impact than the typical non-baseball boss.

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Really glad you two brought up Bud Black. I agree with the consensus that he's a good manager but you sure couldn't back that up by the win-loss column.

FWIW, I know that many Angels fans, from forums like Halos Heaven, consider that Bud Black was a significant part of the Angels success in early-mid 2000s and many want him managing to Angels over Scioscia.