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April 21, 2009, 01:25 PM ET
BP Idol Update

by Will Carroll

You don’t have much time left if you’re going to enter BP Idol. Tomorrow’s deadline is fast approaching, but CK, KG and I have been digging into the giant pile of submissions already. More than expected, you ask? Yes, perhaps a bit, with the quality all over the map. There’s been an amazing amount of work, thought, and research put in, with wildly varying results. Some people have really nailed it while others, well, they’ll get the modern equivalent of the participation ribbon.

I wish I could go into more detail, but I don’t want to give anything away. I will let you know that I’m scoring each submission on a 1-10 scale as well as making comments on each and every submission. To make my final ten, someone would need to score an 8 or better. While I don’t have any 10’s yet, I do have three 9’s. The bar is set pretty high and I can’t wait to see what KG and CK think, but even more, I can’t wait to see what you think. Just like American Idol, we’re relying on you to pick the next winner with your votes.

1’s? Oh yeah, we’ve got some 1’s too.

So if you’re considering entering, you should. What do you have to lose? Well, I guess if you can’t handle the truth or if you don’t think you meet the high standards of the competition, you can always wonder if you might have been good enough.

51 comments have been left for this post.

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momansf

Out of curiosity, how would you rate BP writers' work on your 1-10 scale?

Apr 21, 2009 11:34 AM
rating: 3
 
BP staff member Will Carroll
BP staff

Pretty highly. Given a chance to submit one article, I think most here would be able to get 9's or even 10's. I'm probably the weakest of the bunch because I write in a niche and in a function-over-form style.

Apr 21, 2009 11:43 AM
 
Jeff P

Are we going to get excerpts from the worst articles too, kind of like the Idols auditions?

Apr 21, 2009 11:50 AM
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OrangeKing

That would be amazing, but I'm guessing they don't want to humiliate anyone, even anonymously.

Apr 21, 2009 11:56 AM
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BP staff member Kevin Goldstein
BP staff

We're going to have a lot of fun with it. Good and Bad.

Apr 21, 2009 12:27 PM
 
Scott D. Simon

Curious why the deadline was pushed back from the 15th to the 22nd... Too many submissions to get through by the earlier date?

Apr 21, 2009 11:56 AM
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OrangeKing

Even before the 15th they confirmed the deadline was always meant to be the 22nd, I believe.

Apr 21, 2009 11:57 AM
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BP staff member Dave Pease
BP staff
(2)

This is true--we always meant the 22nd.

Apr 21, 2009 15:30 PM
 
Corkedbat

I'd be interested to know what areas of baseball were newly covered, not normally seen on BP and elsewhere. Not because, I'd hope anyone would steal someone's ideas for a cool column, but because I'd be interested if anyone had some of the same ideas I've had too, be it the baseball memorabilia industry (which I think BP's advanced stats could help savvy collectors) or the players (or other staff) schedule and work ethics of baseball to religion and baseball. There's a whole truck load of stuff out there related to advanced stats and baseball.

Apr 21, 2009 11:58 AM
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dianagram

I wanna be the comedic writer for BP ...

Apr 21, 2009 12:09 PM
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Paul Andrew Burnett

Although several (if not most) of BP writers certainly inject humor on occasion, this is definitely an area which has been lacking since Zumsteg left and took his Breaking Balls with him. On a side note, his articles don't seem to be archived anymore.

Apr 22, 2009 13:47 PM
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Richard Bergstrom

Zumsteg was cool. I remember meeting him at a Portland OR pizza feed with Rob Neyer circa 2003 or so.

Apr 23, 2009 00:30 AM
rating: -1
 
BuzzingThalami

Will or Kevin - assuming your diamond in the rough from the Atlantic League works out well, do you anticipate this being an annual (or even semi-annual) "prospect hunt"? I would have loved to have taken some swings in the cage for you guys, but thought the deadline was 4/15. Not likely to have something in the next day either.

Possibly asking you to get ahead of yourselves here, but curious.

Apr 21, 2009 13:33 PM
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Jack G

I'm upset you're not rating them on the 20-80 scale

Apr 21, 2009 13:39 PM
rating: 6
 
ashitaka

thought stealer!

Apr 21, 2009 15:15 PM
rating: 0
 
BP staff member Kevin Goldstein
BP staff

I actually am. I'm also giving current/potential scores as well. Oh yeah.

Apr 21, 2009 16:26 PM
 
elferguson80

Have any submissions been able to match Christina Kahrl's WPS (words per sentence)?

Apr 21, 2009 13:54 PM
rating: -1
 
BP staff member Kevin Goldstein
BP staff

Some guy named Jack Kerouac came pretty close.

Apr 21, 2009 16:27 PM
 
BP staff member Christina Kahrl
BP staff
(11)

I try to recommend to anyone and everyone that they avoid my addiction to the dependent clause; it's like habit-forming goulash, if lighter on the paprika. On the other hand, at least one BP contributor (who shall remain nameless) was virtually Hemingway-esque in his player comments in annuals from a long, long time ago, and reading "He sucks" about every backup catcher or utility infielder wasn't exactly what we were looking for, then or now.

Apr 22, 2009 07:15 AM
 
Richard Bergstrom

Would you, could you, get a clue?
Will it, won't it, be something new?
I will not talk about statistical spam.
I do not believe you, Joe Morgan-I-am.

Apr 22, 2009 11:44 AM
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Michael Bohn

Impressive use of goulash, Christina. Also impressed that you mentioned paprika. But what kind of paprika do you use to make your goulash?

Apr 22, 2009 12:46 PM
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Ben Solow

Hungarian....so it should be sweet paprika, if I remember correctly. Spanish paprika is the smoky stuff.

Apr 22, 2009 12:49 PM
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Michael Bohn

It should be Hungarian, yes. But not Hot, that stuff will burn you up!!

Man, I'm gonna miss my Grandmother now...

Apr 22, 2009 13:00 PM
rating: 0
 
BP staff member Christina Kahrl
BP staff
(11)

I'm the sort of person who has both kinds in my spice rack (make of that what you will), although I use California-grown sweet that I pick up from Penzey's.

Apr 23, 2009 11:57 AM
 
Richard Bergstrom

Goulash with Lawry's(sp?) Seasoned Salt was one of my favorite dishes as a kid.

Apr 23, 2009 13:15 PM
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Michael Bohn

I have the traditional Hungarian Paprika as well as the hot. I'm not aware of the Cali Grown Sweet. I'll have to check that out.

I have never heard of goulash with Lawrys, or any other brand of seasoned salt. Interesting as well.

Can you tell that I like to cook as well as eat? I'm not a big guy though, so save the fat jokes for a few years from now. I am also much better looking in person than in my head shot...

Apr 24, 2009 08:15 AM
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Bob

Outside of the Idol competition, do you generally consider unsolicited manuscripts for publication in BP?

Apr 21, 2009 14:13 PM
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buffum
(458)

The 1500-word limit was draconian and evil.

Apr 21, 2009 14:42 PM
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djardine

Draconian? How so? I reckon if you can't say it in 1500 words, you are in serious need of a good editor.

Apr 21, 2009 18:12 PM
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buffum
(458)

While admitting I need several editors, the last UTK was 1780 words ...

Apr 21, 2009 20:33 PM
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Richard Bergstrom

The 1500 word was a bit of a challenge for me too.

Apr 22, 2009 08:09 AM
rating: 0
 
BP staff member Will Carroll
BP staff

If you had to read hundreds of these, you'd set a pretty low limit too.

Apr 22, 2009 09:00 AM
 
Richard Bergstrom

From my creative writing studies, authors note that it is harder to write short stories than novels since it requires more efficiency of word usage to get plot, setting and characterization across to the reader.

Apr 22, 2009 09:06 AM
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BP staff member Kevin Goldstein
BP staff

A. We're not asking for novels.
B. God forbid we challenge you a little.

Apr 22, 2009 10:07 AM
 
Richard Bergstrom

I like a challenge, or else, I'd hang out on CNNSI.com's boards ;)

Apr 22, 2009 10:49 AM
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Michael Bohn

It was challenging, to be sure, but 1500 words is certainly long enough to get the job done.

I just hope my awful head shot doesn't make me an instant 1.

Apr 22, 2009 12:45 PM
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Aaron Whitehead

If you're scoring and writing comments on each one, do we (necessarily) want to hear them? It'd be great to hear that you just missed the cut, but does anyone want to find out that they're a 1? And should I be worried that you're "going to have a lot of fun with it. Good and Bad?"

Apr 21, 2009 16:47 PM
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sjstraub

I think you can safely assume that the BP writers have enough maturity not to release the names of the "1s". We might see snippets of articles, but it's not like were going see Will say something like "and this here submission proves that Sjstraub does not have the capacity to tie his own shoes, much less write a complete sentence."

Apr 21, 2009 19:06 PM
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BP staff member Kevin Goldstein
BP staff

Exactly. We'll certainly share some of the stuff that made us laugh, either good or bad, but we're not going to go pointing fingers or anything.

Apr 21, 2009 19:52 PM
 
Richard Bergstrom

Personally, I'd love to get a reply with how well/poorly I scored and any comments or feedback. That way I can learn for next time.

Apr 22, 2009 07:40 AM
rating: 2
 
Michael Bohn

I agree completely. Of course, mine obviously hasn't been graded yet since there are no 10s.

Apr 22, 2009 12:42 PM
rating: -1
 
coachgreat1

I would love a response too. I hope the response I get says I'm in the finals. :)

Apr 22, 2009 16:38 PM
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BP staff member Will Carroll
BP staff

Yeah that's my concern with saying I'd put them all out there for the world to see. I've rated some very low because they simply didn't meet the standards I had going in.

Apr 21, 2009 19:07 PM
 
LetsGoRangers

You should have someone send them back, breaking them down SAT style (Sort of): Total Score, Creativity, Grammar, Overall Theme, etc.

Apr 22, 2009 13:41 PM
rating: 0
 
strupp

Isn't this why the "intern" was invented? (skipping the obvious Clinton joke)

Apr 22, 2009 14:02 PM
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jpkand

I know it's been mentioned but I just wanted to make it known that I'd love to see the 1s as well.

Apr 22, 2009 15:38 PM
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DavidMI

Man was it a relief to see that you guys are operating out of the Pacific Time Zone! I'd mistakenly thought that the 1,500 word limit was a minimum, so when I read here in the comments that it was actually a maximum (which is obvious, in retrospect), I went hacking paragraphs out of the bastard like Halladay taking down Twins.

The three-hour difference saved me from being a DNQ.



Apr 22, 2009 21:17 PM
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theORTsez16

Same with me, David. Thank the lord for time zones...

Apr 22, 2009 21:48 PM
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Richard Bergstrom

I tried to do a timeframe-dependent article. I went to the Rockies Opening Day game which was a Friday and posted by Sunday... though at that time, it was still a bit unclear to me whether the deadline was the 15th or not. We'll see how it goes.

Meantime, I wish everyone good luck!

Apr 23, 2009 00:14 AM
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pftodd

It was 9 hrs difference for me.

I assumed the 1500 limit does not include words counted from charts/tables, just paragraphs.

Apr 23, 2009 22:11 PM
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djardine

What are these things you call charts and tables?

Apr 25, 2009 11:00 AM
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