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January 28, 2009, 11:42 AM ET
New Marlins Stadium Renderings

by Neil deMause

The Marlins unveiled new renderings of their planned $455 million stadium on the old Orange Bowl site yesterday, revealing a glass-encased ovoid with a Minute-Maid-esque sliding roof. To me it looks like it should be the latest scanner design from HP, but opinions vary; another friend suggested “bagel slicer.”

As for what it’d be like to watch baseball in, it’s tough to tell much from the renderings, other than that it’s a typical HOK design: big field level, and a set-back upper deck with a layer of club seats/luxury suites tucked underneath it. A commenter at Field of Schemes notes that in the sketch provided, a bunch of the right-field bleacher seats are stuck behind the giant pillars holding up the retractable roof; in the computer rendering further down the page, though, those sections are empty of seats, so either somebody belatedly noticed the problem, or the sketch illustrator just opened up an extra-large can of artistic license.

The timing of the new drawings coincided with the announcement that the city of Miami and Miami-Dade County have rescheduled their final votes on approving the stadium project for February 13. Dade County Manager George Burgess announced a bunch of concessions the Marlins agreed to yesterday (highlight, if you can call it that: indexing the team’s rent to inflation), but they’re unlikely to change the three-quarters public, one-quarter private cost split agreed to back in 2007. Of prime concern to Florida taxpayers, with the team attempting to build a retractable-roofed stadium for $60 million less than the Seattle Mariners spent on theirs ten years ago, should be that while the Marlins pay overruns for the stadium, the county is apparently on the hook for all overruns for “infrastructure.” They’d better make sure there’s a mechanism to ensure the Fish don’t start pushing items from the “stadium” column into the “infrastructure” column — because as we also saw this week, those things can add up.

21 comments have been left for this post.

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Christopher Hamick

count my vote for "Bagel Slicer" ... weak!!!

Jan 28, 2009 08:57 AM
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BP staff member Will Carroll
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Is that a pool in CF?

Jan 28, 2009 08:57 AM
 
John from Bel Air

I think its a water hazard, like in golf.

Jan 29, 2009 11:06 AM
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M.A.D.

Looks more like a cigar cutter to me.

Jan 28, 2009 09:30 AM
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Dr. Dave

Seconded. Or one of those bizarre eyelash appliances that my wife doesn't own.

Jan 28, 2009 19:37 PM
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brianpsmith
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Assuming, for the sake of argument, that the Marlins draw fans to this new stadium, are they going to park 15,000 cars in those four parking structures? Is public transportation that good in Miami? Looks like a huge traffic mess.

Jan 28, 2009 09:51 AM
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Shkspr

Looking at the last posted pic with the floorplan view, it appears the four structures will probably hold fewer than 5000 cars.

Jan 28, 2009 12:12 PM
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gjgross

the parking situation in Little Havana is awesome, there's plenty of parking. You just have to pay someone $10 to park in their yard. More if you don't want to be blocked in aka "no blockie." Oh how I miss Hurricanes' games at the OB.

Jan 28, 2009 15:19 PM
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casey

I don't know, I'm thinking more of a cookie cutter.

Jan 28, 2009 09:52 AM
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cfinberg

Dude, that's Joe Torre on the jumbotron! But why's he wearing a Yankee cap?

Jan 28, 2009 11:37 AM
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TADontAsk

Even these sketches have attendance at about only 25%.

Jan 28, 2009 12:37 PM
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hessshaun

The bottom left picture is certainly high hopes. We all know they wont draw that many fans.

Jan 28, 2009 13:26 PM
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gaborde

If you build it, they will come!!!

Jan 28, 2009 13:37 PM
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Rob Miller
(162)

Another new stadium, another one with an asymetric outfield just for asymetry's sake. Such outfields are fine when the physical site dictates it but this is just a potential hazard to a right fielder running along the fence at full speed. No, it's not as stupid as the incline in Houston.

And of course, the site trots out all of the tired economic "benefits."

Simple question. If ballparks were such great investments, why don't the owners build them without taxpayer subsidy?

Jan 28, 2009 14:29 PM
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jeffsol

rcmiller -- because they're even better investments when you build them with OPM and still control all the revenues...

This thing is pretty hideous, ulike Safeco which is an elegant solution to a real weather problem and wuite a wonderful place to watch a game...

Jan 28, 2009 15:43 PM
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amazin_mess

Ugly.

Jan 28, 2009 16:01 PM
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Tony Mollica

What effect will the poor economy and financially hurting states and municipalities have on new stadium construction?

Jan 28, 2009 19:32 PM
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BP staff member Neil deMause
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Much speculation, but nobody seems to know for sure. So far the main effects seem to be: 1) interest rates are up; 2) labor/steel costs are, maybe, down; 3) projects that depend on "ballpark village" development, like the A's in Fremont, are on life support; 4) owners are scurrying to recast their projects as "economic stimulus." I haven't heard anyone use the word "shovel-ready" yet, but I'm sure it's coming.

Jan 29, 2009 09:54 AM
 
Evan
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Labour costs should be down. That could be a significant savings.

Jan 29, 2009 16:44 PM
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FlynnSox

I like it actually. Relatively light on the faux-asymmetry, and a modern design. A brick and steel ballpark would look ridiculous in Miami, a place with neither a good baseball tradition nor an abundance of brick and steel buildings (at least from what I've seen). Some more art deco touches to echo South Beach would be cool though.

Jan 29, 2009 08:39 AM
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jnossal

I have to say I like the idea of the well-marked "home plate entry". I'm a little disappointed though that too bad the renderning didn't show the "second base entry" instead, something I recall achieving as a sophomore in high school, IIRC.

Jan 30, 2009 22:28 PM
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