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December 10, 2008, 03:21 PM ET
Baseball Prospectus and the BBWAA

by Christina Kahrl

The Winter Meetings are the baseball industry’s opportunity not simply to meet and make a few changes, it’s also the place where a lot of the game’s affiliated institutions make moves of their own. That took a different form this morning, as representatives of Baseball Prospectus were informed that the organization’s application to the Baseball Writers’ Association of America had been approved, making the two columnists that BP applied for, Will Carroll and Christina Kahrl, members of the BBWAA.

Since 1996, Baseball Prospectus has been providing coverage of baseball in print and online. In the intervening years, BP has expanded to cover the game in ever-greater detail, giving greater attention to scouting and player injuries in a lineup studded with writing talent and the best predictive statistical modeling in the industry. These are the elements that sustain our commitment to daily coverage online, seven days a week February through October, and six days a week November through January. BP is also a company that has had 16 different books published, some bestsellers, including the annual guide that is indispensable to the fans, media, and industry insiders alike. From initially modest beginnings, it has become an organization with a core group of columnists aided by a dedicated technical support team. These commitments, online and in print, have helped make Baseball Prospectus a standby in all aspects of the baseball industry, a reliable regular feature referred to by people inside front offices as well as journalists in print, television, and radio.

For all that we’ve achieved, however, we know that there is even more that we’re capable of in our drive to deliver the best baseball content, and this new challenge is as much a responsibility as an honor. We anticipate that this new level of access will provide BP and its readers with critical additional insight as we provide coverage to all of you that lets us tell the whole story with the fullness it deserves, illustrated by the action on the diamond.

In noting this development, BBWAA president David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution greeted the news with the observation that, “This is an important step forward for the BBWAA, and I’m pleased to have been part of the decision to welcome Baseball Prospectus writers into the organization.”

He went on to observe that in adding our organization to the list of those accredited, “Frankly, there was no good reason not to. Baseball Prospectus is a respected organization with dedicated, full-time baseball writers who cover our sport thoroughly and professionally. They do a great job and provide content that’s influenced our industry.”

The BBWAA’s capacity for change in a changing media environment was reflected in O’Brien’s noting, “Hey, we all know this business is evolving rapidly. BBWAA recognizes that, and I think we showed today that we are open-minded and responsive.”

This is obviously a great day for Baseball Prospectus as an organization, and a reason for personal reflection and excitement alike. This development provides us with a major obligation to not simply enjoy the benefits of our inclusion, not simply to reflect that Baseball Prospectus was and is worthy of inclusion, but that its ongoing coverage of the game will become that much better. From its inception, Baseball Prospectus has aspired to and achieved the highest levels of quality and coverage, but the task at hand is to take it up yet another notch in our desire to deliver information, insight, and analysis as nobody else can.

80 comments have been left for this post.

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Griffin

Congratulations! Well deserved and a proud day for BP readers as well.

Dec 10, 2008 12:25 PM
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Drese4Cy

Congrats on the honor. It's well deserved for both you and Will. Hopefully many more will get their deserved credit.

Dec 10, 2008 12:26 PM
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Stevis
(549)

Congrats and huzzahs to both!

Dec 10, 2008 12:30 PM
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dianagram

Congrats to Will and Christina ... well-deserved

and yes griffdog79, its a proud day for the readers too ...

Dec 10, 2008 12:30 PM
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johnpark99

Awesome! Totally awesome! Way to go, Hamilton!

Dec 10, 2008 12:32 PM
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Jack G

Congrats! And to think you got in without ever having to spend decades of your life sticking microphones in the faces of surly naked men. For your job, anyhow

Dec 10, 2008 12:33 PM
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operatic

Congrats, y'all; wonderful news! :)

Dec 10, 2008 12:33 PM
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jmercan

Congratulations on the well deserved honor!

Dec 10, 2008 12:35 PM
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oeuftete
(719)

Congratulations! Hard to believe that those r.s.b posters I became addicted to 14-ish years ago (eep!) would evolve into a BBWAA-accredited organization. Great news.

Dec 10, 2008 12:39 PM
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Clonod

Fantastic news. Congrats to all.

Dec 10, 2008 12:41 PM
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TCHaag

Friggin' SWEET!

Dec 10, 2008 12:46 PM
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John from Bel Air

Congrats to BP, but I am concerned that this event is a sign that the apocalypse is fast approaching.

Dec 10, 2008 12:51 PM
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ksidders

To everyone at BP, including those from the early years who have since moved on -- congratulations on breaking through the "glass ceiling" at the BBWAA. You've done yourselves, and those who will follow you, a great service through your years of hard work and continuous innovation...

Dec 10, 2008 12:52 PM
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BrettG

Congrats. What other web based organizations have members to the BBWAA?

Dec 10, 2008 13:08 PM
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John Collins
(110)

I heard today that Rob Neyer got in to the BBWAA, too, so I guess espn.com is one.

Dec 10, 2008 13:32 PM
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nmhesketh

A well deserved honor for you both as well as a testiment to everyone at BP.

Dec 10, 2008 13:09 PM
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timoseppa

Congratulations. Good for you!

Dec 10, 2008 13:11 PM
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drmorris

Incredible day, and long overdue. From rec.sports.baseball to the BBWAA -- that's an impressive journey. Congratulations all around.

Dec 10, 2008 13:21 PM
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Wick

Guys, this is so great.

Umm... gonna stop bitching about the MVP awards now? ;)

Dec 10, 2008 13:23 PM
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salsburg
(318)

Does this mean Joe has to stop referring to it as the BBRAA?

Dec 10, 2008 13:26 PM
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Kate Kirby
(93)

Congrats. Took them a few years longer than truly reasonable, but the W is now reasonable in the BBWAA again!

Dec 10, 2008 13:30 PM
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ArthurCopeland

Congratulations! And also congratulations to the BBWAA. This is a big step for both organizations.

Dec 10, 2008 13:31 PM
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Chris S

Congratulations!

Dec 10, 2008 13:32 PM
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prb798

Congrats from another proud reader

Dec 10, 2008 13:34 PM
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Mike M

Let me add my voice to those offering congratulations. Like nmhesketh, I'm curious as to whether any other Net-based publishers have representation in BBWAA. Also, you have so many excellent writers and commentators, why just two?

Dec 10, 2008 13:34 PM
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Dr. Dave

Fan-damn-tastic. Christina, for you especially, I'm extremely pleased.

So, how many games per year are you required to attend in person? :-)

Dec 10, 2008 13:35 PM
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PeterBNYC

Congratulations! A Machiavellian moment- "Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer"? Seriously, I see this as a start in BP's own "long march through the institutions. Again, congratulations. Query: Why not Jay, why not Nate? etc erc

Dec 10, 2008 13:36 PM
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Jack G

I think TA and UTK are the closest thing to "beat" columns on BP--most other folks fall into the detested "analyst" camp

Dec 10, 2008 14:12 PM
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Teraxx

Nice job guys...it's about time this site and the net get its due.

Is it true that you have to wait 10 years to have the actual vote though as Joe mentioned in his chat today?

Dec 10, 2008 13:38 PM
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kernan

I'll throw one one the well deserved pile - congrats!

Dec 10, 2008 13:44 PM
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Shaun P.
(676)

Congrats! This is great news all around.

Dec 10, 2008 13:46 PM
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mongrel

Sorry to be a wet blanket, but I personally always enjoyed the notion that this site was an independent voice. BP has earned my readership (and my money) over the past 10 years on its own merit and didn't need the BBWAA's validation IMHO.

That said, as long as the columns maintain the typical high standard and the commitment to the site stays intact, count me a happy customer.

Dec 10, 2008 14:13 PM
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kasgard

Totally agree Mongrel. Hearty congrats but please BP, PLEASE don't turn into Hal Bodleys

Dec 10, 2008 14:57 PM
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Doug Thorburn

A huge moment for BP and the BBWAA, congrats to both Will and Christina. It's 'bout time!

Dec 10, 2008 14:14 PM
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Kevin

Congrats!!!

Dec 10, 2008 14:26 PM
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shryniewicz

In related news, Blagojevich has begun accepting cash offers for BP's HOF vote.

Dec 10, 2008 14:32 PM
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GBSimons

I'll add to the chorus saying, "Congratulations!" Keep up the great work, BP!

Dec 10, 2008 14:44 PM
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molokai

Congratulations, to bad you can't vote for the HOF for 10 years long after Bert will need your circle.

Dec 10, 2008 14:52 PM
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Adrian

That is so awesome! I've been reading you guys since '98 - my sophomore year of college, when I first encountered a Rob Neyer link to your stuff - and am just so happy for you guys to get the official recognition you've so long deserved.

Hopefully future years will see Joe Sheehan, Steven Goldman and other members of the BP Staff get the recognition they deserve.

Once again, this is awesome!

Dec 10, 2008 15:36 PM
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workermonkey

F#(k yeah team BP, F#(K yeah!

Dec 10, 2008 15:46 PM
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leez34

I cried when I heard about this. Next year, I want to see Sheehan on that list too.

Dec 10, 2008 16:08 PM
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BP staff member Will Carroll
BP staff

First, let me say thank you. In large part, this is a validation of you, the readers, who have shown that there's an appetite for this type of content.

Second, let me say thank you to everyone who helped with this process, especially the BBWAA board and the members who supported us through this, like John Perrotto.

Finally, I'll say that I wouldn't expect anything to change because of this. If anything, we'll get better due to additional access. CK and I will be asking questions, attending games, and continuing the growth of BP from niche to slightly larger niche.

As I was walking through the hallways of the Bellagio, I ran into Peter Gammons. He smiled and said "welcome to the club." Yeah, it's been a good day.

Dec 10, 2008 16:14 PM
 
Tony Mollica

Congratulations! Any day that Peter Gammons welcomes you into the club has to be a day you'll remember forever.

Dec 12, 2008 21:42 PM
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Richard

Congratulations! Well deserved.

Dec 10, 2008 16:19 PM
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gluckschmerz

Hoo-ray Will! Hoo-ray CK!

Dec 10, 2008 16:26 PM
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nicholj

Firstly, to echo the general sentiment, congratulations and well deserved. Secondly, this site in my opinion represents the best marriage of analysis and entertaining writing of any publication in print or online. It is relatively easy to be excellent at one or the other but to be excellent at both for as long and as consistently as the BP team has is a truly unique and special accomplishment. Since my first visit and for the eight years hence, your writing has been a must read and made me a fan of the game again. Thank you.

Dec 10, 2008 16:48 PM
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LetsGoRangers

They said this day would never come. They said that this was not our time. They were wrong. This is our time. This is our moment. Yes, We Can!

Dec 10, 2008 17:04 PM
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southpaw

This is a great recognition for BP and we as readers share the pride.

Dec 10, 2008 17:18 PM
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John Carter

congratulissimo!

Dec 10, 2008 17:24 PM
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Richard Bergstrom

Congratulations!

So... here's a radical idea. Why not base your HOF votes on JAWS, your MVP votes on WARP and Manager of the Year awards on the Internet Awards you do...

Dec 10, 2008 17:45 PM
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dadofsam

Uh-oh...does this mean we'll be seeing a re-evaluation and subsequent validation of the RBI as the most important statistic after all on BP?

But seriously folks...it's taken too long for this to happen, but it's a great day for baseball fans everywhere. You have a lot to be proud of.

Dec 10, 2008 17:50 PM
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Jim Ferguson

Woot! AFT.

Dec 10, 2008 17:59 PM
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macooper996

Well done. Congratulations.

Dec 10, 2008 18:19 PM
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silviomossa

Awesome to read! Congrats to Christina and Will.

Dec 10, 2008 18:29 PM
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deacon14

I have never commented before but I am so happy for the site and its writers. I promote BP every chance I get and this is very well deserved.

Dec 10, 2008 18:47 PM
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gmueller

Two outstanding writers and reporters getting their just desserts. Congratulations to you both!

Dec 10, 2008 19:27 PM
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DJBigNasty

Huzzah! Congratulations, and may you now influence baseball for the better on the inside as well as out. I have no doubt that you'll succeed! :-)

Dec 10, 2008 19:50 PM
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jeblanchard

Congratulations to Will & Christina. I look forward to seeing what improvements your membership will bring to the articles and blogs.
But I fear that your membership is one of the 7 signs of the baseball apocalypse..lol

Dec 10, 2008 19:52 PM
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BP staff member Christina Kahrl
BP staff
(11)

Gang, let me merely tack on my similar sentiments to what what Will has already said--what makes Baseball Prospectus possible isn't merely all of us, what make BP every bit as much is all of you. You all have my gratitude and my thanks--and now, to the serious business of making sure that we deliver on this remarkable opportunity.

Dec 10, 2008 20:12 PM
 
jeffstoned

Terrific news. From a reader of 10 years, congratulations on a well-deserved honor. I'm actually not sure BBWAA doesn't gain more by this than does BP, but that's probably been true of most instances in which some hidebound baseball institution suddenly decides to join the current century. Good for them, good for you, good for all of us.

Dec 10, 2008 21:40 PM
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farkdog

Will and Christina, congratulations to you both. A past due recognition of your (and BP's) contribution to the game.

Dec 11, 2008 00:17 AM
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Juris

Excellent news for BP and for baeball fans. Just don't get stodgy and exclusionary. Keep your edginess.

Dec 11, 2008 01:20 AM
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reznick

Congratulations to Christina and Will!

When will Nate Silver be able to vote for Most Valuable Pollster?

Dec 11, 2008 03:10 AM
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DrippsSki

Maybe Dave Littlefield will now finally buy and read a copy of the 2009 Prospectus and wonder, "So this is what I have been missing all along....."

Dec 11, 2008 03:43 AM
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nschneider

Congratulations to both of you and to BP.

But what does it really mean? Aside from the fact that you're now recognized (and no longer pointedly excluded) as "baseball writers", what other benefits/access does this give you? Is there anything that we, as readers, will be seeing from you now that we couldn't see when you weren't in the BBWAA?

Dec 11, 2008 06:21 AM
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agentsteel53

Tim Raines in the HOF maybe?

Dec 11, 2008 07:59 AM
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Brian Kopec

I guess I don't understand why anyone would want this recognition. BP certainly doesn't need BBWAA to validate the quality of work being published.

But congratulations all the same.

Dec 11, 2008 07:49 AM
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Shane Martin

Great news!

Dec 11, 2008 08:17 AM
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Drew106

Great news. Congrats to you and congrats to the BBWAA for improving the accuracy of their future votes ever so slightly by having members of Baseball Prospectus as part of their group.

Anyone think the breaking point was PECOTA's love for the Rays in the preseason and subsequent validation for that love?

Dec 11, 2008 09:22 AM
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Juris

I seriously doubt that had anything to do with it. The process of admitting blogs (and blog authors) to the BBWAA began a year ago. An BP was a logical addition to the club based on the growing breadth and depth of its coverage of all things baseball, increasing doing more "reporting" while maintaining analysis at its core. (But of course we're all happy Nate went "out on a limb" with the Rays prediction -- and moreoer that he was right.)

Dec 11, 2008 10:22 AM
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Evan
(47)

Let's not forget Keith Law. BP alumnus Keith Law was also granted entrance into the BBWAA. I loved his column here (The Imbalance Sheet). I only wish Doug Pappas were still here to be allowed in alongside him.

Dec 11, 2008 10:44 AM
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BP staff member Will Carroll
BP staff

The main benefit for us is access. Over the years, it's been tough for us to get credentialed. Both MLB (and teams) and the BBWAA didn't recognize internet only operations. So, for me, the only thing that changes is I'll be going to more games and hopefully that will add a dimension to my writing.

Dec 11, 2008 12:43 PM
 
eighteen

Of far greater import is MSM reporters' increased access and exposure to you, CK, and BP. God knows they and their readers need it.

I wonder to what degree BBWAA's increased emphasis on admitting Internet-based writers is an acknowledgment that newspaper-based "reporting" will be extinct in 10 years.

Dec 11, 2008 13:05 PM
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Juris

Will, does "being credentialed" mean you have a better chance of being admitted to the press box? I know they give priority to the daily working press, but I suppose it matters to you as well if you're requesting press box access.

Dec 11, 2008 13:29 PM
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BP staff member Will Carroll
BP staff

Yes, this is exactly what I mean. I'll be at a lot more games.

Dec 11, 2008 14:06 PM
 
kcboomer

This is exciting news for all of us. My congratulations to Will and Christina. Hopefully more BP writers will be admitted.

Dec 11, 2008 14:22 PM
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Morley

Congratulations to both of you!

Dec 11, 2008 14:52 PM
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jnewfry
(131)

Outstanding!

Dec 11, 2008 15:04 PM
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vtadave

Next up for membership - Joe Sheehan?

Dec 11, 2008 23:10 PM
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marcwelby

Congratulations! Well deserved indeed!

Dec 13, 2008 13:49 PM
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