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Mike Lieberthal
Los Angeles Dodgers [ Team Audit ] [ Depth Chart ]
Catcher
Bats R
Age 36
6'
195 lbs.

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Historical Stats

-- Equivalents --
Year Tm Lg PA R 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS EqBRR AVG OBP SLG MLVr AVG OBP SLG EqA VORP Defense WARP
2005 PHI MJ 443 48 25 0 12 47 35 35 0 0 -1.3 .263 .336 .418 .011 .253 .327 .416 .259 16.1 113-C -4 3.6
2006 REA 2A 6 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0.1 .167 .167 .167 -.559 .167 .167 .167 .000 -1.1 0.0
2006 SWB 3A 7 3 1 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0.0 .667 .714 .833 1.602 .833 .857 .999 .827 4.4 0.3
2006 PHI MJ 230 22 14 0 9 36 8 19 0 0 -2.1 .273 .316 .469 .025 .269 .311 .458 .261 7.1 54-C 7 3.1
2007 LAN MJ 82 6 2 0 0 1 4 11 0 0 -0.2 .234 .280 .260 -.346 .234 .280 .260 .185 -3.6 19-C 0 0.1


EQA Distribution

Seven-Year WARP

2008 Forecast

(projection generated 3/18/08 1:07 PM)
-- Equivalents --
Percentile PA R 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS EqBRR AVG OBP SLG MLVr AVG OBP SLG EqA VORP Defense WARP
90o 124 16 6 0 3 15 8 13 0 0 -0.4 .286 .338 .430 -.007 .284 .335 .435 .262 4.7 34-C -1 1.1
75o 118 13 5 0 3 13 7 13 0 0 -0.3 .269 .319 .396 -.099 .267 .316 .400 .244 1.9 32-C -1 0.9
60o 115 12 5 0 2 13 7 13 0 0 -0.3 .261 .310 .381 -.140 .259 .308 .385 .236 0.8 31-C -1 0.7
50o 110 10 4 0 2 12 6 12 0 0 -0.3 .248 .296 .356 -.208 .246 .294 .360 .223 -1.0 30-C -1 0.6
40o 105 9 4 0 2 11 5 12 0 0 -0.3 .239 .285 .337 -.260 .237 .283 .340 .211 -2.2 29-C -1 0.5
25o 97 7 3 0 1 9 5 11 0 0 -0.2 .220 .264 .300 -.359 .218 .262 .303 .188 -4.3 27-C -1 0.3
10o 67 3 2 0 0 5 3 9 0 0 -0.1 .175 .214 .213 -.591 .174 .212 .216 .110 -6.6 21-C 0 0.0
Weighted Mean 97 9 4 0 2 10 5 11 0 0 -0.3 .248 .296 .355 -.210 .246 .294 .359 .220 0.1 27-C 0 0.8

Diagnostics

Breakout Rate Improve Rate Collapse Rate Attrition Rate Beta

11%

26%

49%

48%

1.02

Seven-Year Forecast

-- Equivalents --
Year PA R 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS EqBRR AVG OBP SLG MLVr AVG OBP SLG EqA VORP Defense WARP
2008 (age 36) 97 9 4 0 2 10 5 11 0 0 -0.3 .248 .296 .355 -.210 .246 .294 .359 .220 0.1 27-C 0 0.8
2009 (age 37) 116 11 5 0 2 13 7 13 0 0 -0.2 .239 .295 .339 -.239 .234 .288 .336 .216 -1.0 32-C -1 0.3
2010 (age 38) 68 5 3 0 1 7 5 8 0 0 -0.1 .237 .301 .337 -.232 .231 .294 .335 .218 -0.5 21-C -1 0.2
2011 (age 39)
-- out of baseball --
2012 (age 40)
-- out of baseball --
2013 (age 41)
-- out of baseball --
2014 (age 42)
-- out of baseball --

Platoon

Platoon AVG OBP SLG
vs LHP .265 .321 .387
vs RHP .243 .286 .339
Split +.022 +.036 +.048
LgAvg +.020 +.024 +.038

Valuation

Year OWARP DWARP Tot WARP MORP SuperVORP Upside
2008 0.0 0.9 0.8 $900,000 0.0 0.8
2009 0.0 0.4 0.3 $550,000 -1.3 0.5
2010 0.0 0.2 0.2 $475,000 -0.7 0.0
2011 0.0 0.1 0.1 $425,000 -0.4 0.0
2012 0.0 0.0 0.0 $425,000 0.0 0.2
2013 0.0 0.1 0.1 $500,000 0.2 0.1
2014 0.0 0.0 0.0 $450,000 -0.2 0.0
Peak 1.5 $725,000 0.2 1.7


Stars & Scrubs Chart

Career Path Analysis


Seven-Year Performance
Year 75% 50% 25% Weighted Mean
2008 .244 .223 .188 .220
2009 .252 .225 .193 .216
2010 .248 .219 .194 .218
2011
-- out of baseball --
2012
-- out of baseball --
2013
-- out of baseball --
2014
-- out of baseball --


Seven-Year Attrition
Year Attrition Rate Drop Rate Breakout
2008 48% 0% 11%
2009 66% 45% 11%
2010 85% 63% 4%
2011 95% 82% 3%
2012 98% 88% 3%
2013 98% 93% 1%
2014 100% 95% 1%

Most Comparable Players

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Rank Hitter Year Score Trend Rank Hitter Year Score Trend
1 John Flaherty 1992 40 11 Steve Lake 2003 33
2 Clyde McCullough 1979 36 12 Bo Diaz 1971 33
3 Del Crandall 1981 36 13 Mickey Livingston 1982 33
4 Ray Murray 1970 36 14 Bob Boone 1960 33
5 Bob Scheffing 1973 35 15 Gary Carter 2007 32
6 Benito Santiago 1992 35 16 Pat Borders 1975 32
7 Manny Sanguillen 1975 34 17 Eddie Perez 1969 32
8 Buddy Rosar 1975 34 18 Joe Girardi 2000 31
9 Sandy Alomar 1957 34 19 Ron Coomer 1979 30
10 Dan Wilson 1998 33 20 Brad Ausmus 2005 30

Player Comments

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2007

This is what typically happens to veteran catchers; injuries devour their playing time. For Lieberthal, the knee, hip, back, and abdominal injuries he suffered in 2006 had him thinking about retirement, but he`s reached an agreement with the Dodgers to play a reserve role. He was still effective between his DL stints, and should have a better chance to stay healthy playing two days a week instead of five.

2006

At the point in his career where he should play against lefties and only selected righties, Lieberthal soldiered on as the regular because Ed Wade couldn`t put the pieces of the puzzle together. Since Lieberthal`s throwing began deteriorating three years ago, the Phillies have needed a lefty-hitting reserve who played decent defense. Admittedly, that`s not easy to find, but the comparatively clueless Reds came up with Javier Valentin. That`s what GMs get paid the big bucks for: finding the right players to address their team`s problems. The good news? Despite his six-figure odometer reading and his many physical problems, Lieberthal has not been put on the DL since 2001.

2005

Lieberthal has given the Phillies a lot of value over the years, but he's a 33-year-old catcher who doesn't handle the running game well, and the modest decline that his stats underwent last year is more likely than not the start of a downtrend. This is the last year of Lieberthal's contract, and the Phillies should survive it fine, but they'll need to turn outside the organization for a replacement as their motley crew of catching prospects all project as backups. Who'd have thought they'd miss Johnny Estrada?

2003

Lieberthal returned from a gruesome knee injury to have an excellent 2002 season and was rewarded by a lengthy, expensive contract extension. That extension is an awful gamble. Very few everyday catchers retain their effectiveness past the age of 30 and Lieberthal has already demonstrated that he is injury-prone and a lousy hitter against righties. A few weeks after the season ended Lieberthal had surgery to repair a torn meniscus in his knee. Expect other problems to follow.

2002

Lieberthal’s season ended in April with a torn ACL, prompting all sorts of pronouncements that the Phillies’ season was over. It obviously wasn’t, proving once again that a good player is still only worth a few games on the margin. With Lieberthal expected to be healthy again in 2002 and Marlon Byrd just about ready, the Phils have a chance to sport a lineup without a major hole in it, which would go a long way towards bringing the NL East title to Philadelphia.

2001

In the first half of 2000, Mike Lieberthal proved that his 1999 production wasn’t a fluke, but his second half raised serious questions about whether he can hold up for an entire season. He was plagued by bone spurs in his elbow and a sprained ankle that knocked down his final numbers considerably. Because he really doesn't hit right-handers that well, finding a quality left-handed-hitting backup should be a priority. Once Ed Wade finishes signing all the lousy relievers, of course.

2000

The big question is whether his performance represented a breakthrough caused by finally being healthy or if it was simply a career year. Given his age, it was most likely a career year. Even if the projection is accurate and he slides most of the way back to his earlier level, his defensive skills are enough for him to be useful in a strong lineup. Unfortunately for the Phillies, they aren’t quite there yet.

1999

Felled by a strange pelvic injury that wiped out nearly two months of his season, and threw the Phils' grand plans for a trade into flux. He wasn't having much of a season to begin with, and at this point, the team should give Estalella the everyday job. With Estalella’s injury, the Phillies are saying Lieberthal will be fine by spring training, so it looks like he’ll be the starter.

1998

He started the year with a bang, launching seven home runs in April, and was a hitting star from June through August. But after a disastrous fade in September, possibly from overwork, the final results weren’t any better than in prior years. While he’s gotten kudos for his defense, he was only average at preventing base stealing, led the league in passed balls and was next to last in errors. I think he’ll keep the #1 job next year, possibly with more rest since Estalella figures to be a more capable backup than Parent, but I’m doubtful beyond that.

1997

A first round pick, he’s the favored starter now that Santiago’s been deemed too expensive. He’s better suited to a backup role.

1996

There are doubts about his glovework and his ability to stop the running game, but he's not worthless with the bat, he's young, and there are worse choices as a backup catcher. Injuries made his '94 worse than it should have been; he should stick as Santiago's caddy this year.


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