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Toby Hall
Chicago White Sox [ Team Audit ] [ Depth Chart ]
Catcher
Bats R
Age 32
6' 3"
240 lbs.

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White Sox Depth Chart (updated: 04-24)
PosOrderNamePT%PA AVG R HR RBI SB OBP SLG VORP
C 7 Toby Hall 25 163 .243 11 2 17 0 .280 .344 -2.3
1   2008 Total 25 163 .243 11 2 17 0 .280 .344 -2.3

Historical Stats

-- Equivalents --
Year Tm Lg PA R 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS EqBRR AVG OBP SLG MLVr AVG OBP SLG EqA VORP Defense WARP
2005 TBA MJ 463 28 20 0 5 48 16 39 0 0 -3.6 .287 .315 .368 -.082 .299 .335 .384 .254 9.5 121-C 3 3.8
2006 TBA MJ 234 15 13 0 8 23 8 17 0 2 -1.0 .231 .261 .398 -.233 .228 .265 .406 .226 -6.1 57-C -8 0.3
2006 LAN MJ 60 2 4 0 0 8 2 5 0 0 -1.6 .368 .383 .439 .204 .351 .367 .404 .272 4.4 14-C 0 0.5
2007 CHR 3A 21 3 0 0 2 7 2 3 0 0 0.0 .263 .333 .579 .233 .263 .333 .579 .296 1.7 0.1
2007 CHA MJ 120 8 4 0 0 3 3 12 0 0 -1.0 .207 .225 .241 -.510 .209 .233 .243 .152 -9.6 33-C -6 -0.8


EQA Distribution

Seven-Year WARP

2008 Forecast

(projection generated 3/18/08 11:11 AM)
-- Equivalents --
Percentile PA R 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS EqBRR AVG OBP SLG MLVr AVG OBP SLG EqA VORP Defense WARP
90o 194 21 10 0 5 22 10 20 0 1 -0.9 .278 .320 .423 -.027 .274 .319 .427 .260 5.4 49-C -6 1.0
75o 180 16 8 0 4 20 9 18 0 1 -0.7 .259 .299 .381 -.134 .256 .298 .384 .239 0.5 46-C -5 0.6
60o 173 14 8 0 3 19 8 18 0 0 -0.7 .250 .289 .361 -.183 .247 .288 .364 .228 -1.6 45-C -5 0.4
50o 168 12 7 0 3 18 8 17 0 0 -0.7 .243 .281 .345 -.224 .240 .279 .348 .219 -3.1 43-C -5 0.3
40o 156 10 6 0 2 16 7 16 0 0 -0.6 .230 .265 .316 -.297 .227 .264 .319 .202 -5.6 41-C -4 0.1
25o 133 6 5 0 1 12 5 14 0 0 -0.5 .207 .239 .266 -.423 .205 .238 .268 .167 -8.8 36-C -4 -0.2
10o 99 2 3 0 0 8 3 11 0 0 -0.3 .184 .211 .213 -.555 .182 .210 .215 .115 -9.6 28-C -2 -0.4
Weighted Mean 164 12 7 0 3 17 8 17 0 0 -0.6 .243 .280 .344 -.225 .240 .279 .348 .218 -2.3 43-C -3 0.8

Diagnostics

Breakout Rate Improve Rate Collapse Rate Attrition Rate Beta

19%

43%

42%

46%

1.00

Seven-Year Forecast

-- Equivalents --
Year PA R 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS EqBRR AVG OBP SLG MLVr AVG OBP SLG EqA VORP Defense WARP
2008 (age 32) 164 12 7 0 3 17 8 17 0 0 -0.6 .243 .280 .344 -.225 .240 .279 .348 .218 -2.3 43-C -3 0.8
2009 (age 33) 176 14 8 0 3 18 8 19 0 0 -0.5 .256 .293 .354 -.181 .257 .297 .365 .228 -0.9 45-C -4 0.5
2010 (age 34) 147 10 7 0 2 16 6 16 1 0 -0.4 .252 .287 .356 -.193 .253 .290 .367 .225 -0.9 39-C -3 0.3
2011 (age 35) 108 6 4 0 1 11 4 12 0 0 -0.2 .243 .275 .321 -.266 .244 .278 .331 .209 -1.6 30-C -3 0.1
2012 (age 36)
-- out of baseball --
2013 (age 37)
-- out of baseball --
2014 (age 38)
-- out of baseball --

Platoon

Platoon AVG OBP SLG
vs LHP .257 .302 .372
vs RHP .238 .272 .331
Split +.019 +.030 +.041
LgAvg +.020 +.024 +.038

Valuation

Year OWARP DWARP Tot WARP MORP SuperVORP Upside
2008 0.0 0.9 0.8 $875,000 -5.5 1.4
2009 0.0 0.5 0.5 $650,000 -3.0 0.3
2010 0.0 0.3 0.3 $550,000 -2.6 0.6
2011 0.0 0.2 0.1 $450,000 -3.3 0.1
2012 0.0 0.1 0.1 $450,000 -0.8 0.0
2013 0.0 0.1 0.1 $450,000 -0.8 0.1
2014 0.0 0.1 0.1 $475,000 -0.4 0.0
Peak 1.9 $900,000 0.0 2.5


Stars & Scrubs Chart

Career Path Analysis


Seven-Year Performance
Year 75% 50% 25% Weighted Mean
2008 .239 .219 .167 .218
2009 .250 .226 .189 .228
2010 .242 .208 .190 .225
2011 .231 .209 .167 .209
2012
-- out of baseball --
2013
-- out of baseball --
2014
-- out of baseball --


Seven-Year Attrition
Year Attrition Rate Drop Rate Breakout
2008 46% 0% 19%
2009 54% 31% 25%
2010 64% 46% 21%
2011 82% 53% 16%
2012 93% 76% 14%
2013 96% 80% 12%
2014 99% 87% 10%

Most Comparable Players

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Rank Hitter Year Score Trend Rank Hitter Year Score Trend
1 Ray Fosse 1992 40 11 Brian Johnson 2003 33
2 Carlos Hernandez 1979 36 12 John Boccabella 1971 33
3 Danny Sheaffer 1981 36 13 Marc Hill 1982 33
4 Sandy Alomar 1970 36 14 John Flaherty 1960 33
5 Javy Lopez 1973 35 15 Sammy White 2007 32
6 Scott Servais 1992 35 16 Terry Kennedy 1975 32
7 Pat Borders 1975 34 17 Ebba St. Claire 1969 32
8 Joe Azcue 1975 34 18 Bob Melvin 2000 31
9 Mike Matheny 1957 34 19 Joe Oliver 1979 30
10 Bill Haselman 1998 33 20 Jorge Fabregas 2005 30

Player Comments

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2007

Hall`s bat never lived up to the modest expectations set for it in Tampa Bay. The new regime in Tampa didn`t take long to identify his position as one in desperate need of an upgrade (`1. Complete purchase of team; 2. New catcher; 3. Get some pitching!!!`), so, when Ned Colletti came sniffing around for Mark Hendrickson, the D-Rays happily included Hall to nab Dioner Navarro. Confined to a backup role in L.A. by the emergence of Russell Martin, Hall illustrated Jazayerli`s Law of Backup Catchers, hitting surprisingly well in extremely limited duty. Non-tendered by the Dodgers, he signed a two-year, $3.65-million deal with the White Sox. His ability to hit lefties (.297/.334/.436 over the past three years, compared to .258/.290/.355 vs. righties) will complement A.J. Pierzynski`s weakness against same.

2006

Hall had what was likely his peak season, but due to what is now a pathological unwillingness to walk to first base, his best was still only good enough to get most players benched. While sabermetric types routinely condemn players who lack patience, this may not be fairhat if, as is surely the case with some hitters, impatience is simply a lack of skill rather than a kind of stubbornness? That being the case, it`s cruel to berate them for their incapability--it wasn`t a choice, they were just made that way. In this sense, many impatient players are like those born with physical disabilities. The key difference is that the handicapped can lead useful, vibrant lives, while the impatient largely can`t.

2005

Hall was having a pretty good season last year until August, when his bat got an early jump on the off-season: Hitting .302 in late July, he only hit .198 the rest of the way. Hall makes plenty of contact. He just never hits the ball with any authority, which is the difference between the Hall of today and the Hall they thought they were getting when he came out of the minors four years ago. There was some thought the Rays would not go to arbitration with him, but given the salary demands of free agent Charles Johnson and their lack of trust in Pete LaForest, they decided to live with the incumbent.

2003

Hall has a history with the bat that most catchers can’t hope to match, and he’s a good bet to be among the best hitting backstops in baseball in 2003. The Rays should be thinking longer-term than that, and there are risks that could make exploring Hall’s value in trade reasonable. Hall’s reputation as a top prospect comes in spite of his age (he’s older than Ben Grieve), not because of it, and catchers who smoke the ball into their thirties are rare. He reported to camp out of shape in 2002, and even at his listed weight of 240 pounds he’s putting a lot of pressure on his knees in every game. We’d love to have him on our team, but we’re giving the long-term contract to someone else.

2002

Hall started hitting in 2000 and won’t stop until, oh, 2014 or thereabouts. Outstanding hitters rarely reach the majors this late in life, but Hall is a legitimate exception to the rule. What makes him so exciting is that he’s an exception to another rule, the one that says that it’s pretty much impossible to hit for power without striking out more than 50 times a year. If there are any disbelievers in your fantasy league, outbid them.

2001

Introducing the new John Flaherty. Toby Hall got some attention by hitting .343 in the first half at Orlando. He has some power, will hit anywhere from .220 to .290, and walks about once every ten days. Hall doesn't play the defense that the current Devil Ray catchers do, but he would be cheaper and might become a fan favorite.


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