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| YEAR | TEAM | AGE | G | GS | IP | IP-SP | IP-RP | W | L | SV | BS | QS | BQS | PA | H | R | ER | HR | TB | BB | UBB | HBP | SO | ERA | FIP | FRA | VORP | WARP |
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| 2007 | NYA | 21 | 13 | 13 | 72.7 | 72.7 | 0.0 | 5 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 1 | 306 | 64 | 39 | 36 | 8 | 105 | 29 | 29 | 2 | 58 | 4.46 | 4.43 | 4.87 | 8.6 | 0.8 |
| 2008 | NYA | 22 | 8 | 8 | 34.0 | 34.0 | 0.0 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 157 | 43 | 26 | 25 | 3 | 64 | 15 | 15 | 1 | 23 | 6.62 | 4.37 | 4.38 | 5.1 | 0.5 |
| 2009 | NYA | 23 | 51 | 7 | 86.0 | 34.7 | 51.3 | 8 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 351 | 68 | 31 | 29 | 8 | 109 | 28 | 27 | 5 | 96 | 3.03 | 3.27 | 3.39 | 21.0 | 2.1 |
| 2010 | NYA | 24 | 31 | 29 | 176.3 | 174.3 | 2.0 | 18 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 15 | 1 | 730 | 162 | 83 | 82 | 25 | 266 | 58 | 57 | 0 | 146 | 4.19 | 4.22 | 5.12 | 13.6 | 1.4 |
| 2011 | NYA | 25 | 17 | 14 | 74.7 | 71.7 | 3.0 | 5 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 0 | 334 | 84 | 48 | 48 | 9 | 134 | 27 | 25 | 4 | 47 | 5.79 | 4.61 | 4.68 | 7.1 | 0.8 |
| 2012 | NYA | 26 | 32 | 32 | 191.3 | 191.3 | 0.0 | 16 | 13 | 0 | 0 | 17 | 1 | 815 | 196 | 101 | 89 | 35 | 349 | 46 | 46 | 6 | 165 | 4.19 | 4.51 | 4.54 | 18.7 | 1.9 |
| 2013 | NYA | 27 | 8 | 8 | 41.3 | 41.3 | 0.0 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 184 | 53 | 28 | 27 | 8 | 90 | 11 | 10 | 1 | 37 | 5.88 | 4.69 | 4.88 | 4.2 | 0.4 |
| Career | 160 | 111 | 676.3 | 620.0 | 56.3 | 54 | 39 | 3 | 3 | 52 | 3 | 2877 | 670 | 356 | 336 | 96 | 1117 | 214 | 209 | 19 | 572 | 4.47 | 4.28 | 4.60 | 78.4 | 8.0 | ||
| YEAR | Team | Lg | G | GS | IP | FRA | FRA+ | TAv | oppAVG | oppOBP | oppSLG | oppTAv | BABIP | PPF | PVORP | PWARP | VORP | WARP |
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| 2005 | CSC | A | 12 | 12 | 68.7 | 0.00 | 0 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | -.489 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
| 2005 | TAM | A+ | 5 | 4 | 17.7 | 0.00 | 0 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | -.286 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
| 2006 | TAM | A+ | 5 | 5 | 30.2 | 0.00 | 0 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .247 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
| 2006 | TRN | AA | 21 | 21 | 116.1 | 0.00 | 0 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .251 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
| 2007 | NYA | MLB | 13 | 13 | 72.7 | 4.87 | 103 | .244 | .281 | .346 | .439 | .272 | .268 | 103 | 8.6 | 0.8 | 8.6 | 0.8 |
| 2007 | TAM | A+ | 1 | 1 | 2.0 | 3.12 | 144 | .206 | .283 | .372 | .436 | .277 | .000 | 102 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 2007 | TRN | AA | 2 | 2 | 7.0 | 0.69 | 181 | .189 | .265 | .329 | .404 | .262 | .357 | 79 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 2007 | SWB | AAA | 5 | 5 | 28.7 | 3.15 | 128 | .150 | .270 | .340 | .400 | .258 | .232 | 98 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 2008 | NYA | MLB | 8 | 8 | 34.0 | 4.38 | 108 | .283 | .276 | .342 | .434 | .273 | .348 | 100 | 5.1 | 0.5 | 5.1 | 0.5 |
| 2008 | CSC | A | 2 | 0 | 6.7 | 3.37 | 124 | .158 | .255 | .323 | .376 | .250 | .188 | 100 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 2008 | SWB | AAA | 6 | 6 | 29.0 | 3.04 | 135 | .238 | .267 | .340 | .409 | .255 | .364 | 98 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 2008 | PEJ | Wnt | 7 | 7 | 30.0 | 0.00 | 0 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .279 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
| 2009 | NYA | MLB | 51 | 7 | 86.0 | 3.39 | 132 | .222 | .272 | .342 | .444 | .274 | .280 | 103 | 21.0 | 2.1 | 21.0 | 2.1 |
| 2009 | SWB | AAA | 3 | 3 | 19.3 | 3.11 | 123 | .235 | .260 | .317 | .387 | .251 | .283 | 88 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 2010 | NYA | MLB | 31 | 29 | 176.3 | 5.12 | 93 | .242 | .263 | .330 | .423 | .271 | .273 | 107 | 13.2 | 1.4 | 13.6 | 1.4 |
| 2011 | NYA | MLB | 17 | 14 | 74.7 | 4.68 | 99 | .280 | .264 | .326 | .416 | .271 | .304 | 105 | 7.1 | 0.8 | 7.1 | 0.8 |
| 2011 | STA | A- | 1 | 1 | 4.3 | 2.03 | 151 | .219 | .284 | .375 | .430 | .309 | .250 | 91 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 2011 | TRN | AA | 2 | 2 | 9.7 | 0.00 | 0 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .261 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
| 2012 | NYA | MLB | 32 | 32 | 191.3 | 4.54 | 103 | .270 | .263 | .325 | .428 | .270 | .286 | 106 | 19.2 | 2.0 | 18.7 | 1.9 |
| 2013 | NYA | MLB | 8 | 8 | 41.3 | 4.88 | 89 | .314 | .267 | .333 | .426 | .277 | .354 | 99 | 4.2 | 0.4 | 4.2 | 0.4 |
| Career | MLB | 111 | 676.3 | 4.63 | 103 | .260 | .267 | .332 | .428 | .271 | .290 | 75 | 59.3 | 6.1 | 59.7 | 6.0 | ||
| Year | Team | Lg | W | L | SV | G | GS | IP | H | BB | SO | HR | GB% | BABIP | H/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | K/9 | WHIP | ERA | VORP | WARP |
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| 2005 | CSC | A | 7 | 1 | 0 | 12 | 12 | 68.7 | 46 | 16 | 72 | 1 | 0% | -.489 | 6.0 | 2.1 | 0.1 | 9.4 | 0.90 | 1.97 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 2005 | TAM | A+ | 2 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 4 | 17.7 | 8 | 4 | 21 | 0 | 0% | -.286 | 4.1 | 2.0 | 0.0 | 10.7 | 0.68 | 3.05 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 2006 | TRN | AA | 10 | 3 | 0 | 21 | 21 | 116.1 | 73 | 32 | 138 | 5 | 0% | .251 | 5.7 | 2.5 | 0.4 | 10.7 | 0.90 | 2.25 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 2006 | TAM | A+ | 2 | 3 | 0 | 5 | 5 | 30.2 | 19 | 2 | 30 | 0 | 0% | .247 | 5.7 | 0.6 | 0.0 | 8.9 | 0.70 | 1.79 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 2007 | SWB | AAA | 4 | 1 | 0 | 5 | 5 | 28.7 | 16 | 8 | 28 | 0 | 62% | .232 | 5.0 | 2.5 | 0.0 | 8.8 | 0.84 | 2.20 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 2007 | TRN | AA | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 7.0 | 5 | 2 | 11 | 0 | 29% | .357 | 6.4 | 2.6 | 0.0 | 14.1 | 1.00 | 1.29 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 2007 | TAM | A+ | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 2.0 | 0 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 75% | .000 | 0.0 | 9.0 | 0.0 | 13.5 | 1.00 | 0.00 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 2007 | NYA | MLB | 5 | 3 | 0 | 13 | 13 | 72.7 | 64 | 29 | 58 | 8 | 38% | .268 | 7.9 | 3.6 | 1.0 | 7.2 | 1.28 | 4.46 | 8.6 | 0.8 |
| 2008 | CSC | A | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 6.7 | 3 | 2 | 6 | 0 | 44% | .188 | 4.0 | 2.7 | 0.0 | 8.1 | 0.75 | 0.00 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 2008 | SWB | AAA | 1 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 6 | 29.0 | 34 | 9 | 31 | 2 | 42% | .364 | 10.6 | 2.8 | 0.6 | 9.6 | 1.48 | 5.90 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 2008 | PEJ | Wnt | 2 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 7 | 30.0 | 21 | 13 | 38 | 2 | 0% | .279 | 6.3 | 3.9 | 0.6 | 11.4 | 1.13 | 3.00 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 2008 | NYA | MLB | 0 | 4 | 0 | 8 | 8 | 34.0 | 43 | 15 | 23 | 3 | 36% | .348 | 11.4 | 4.0 | 0.8 | 6.1 | 1.71 | 6.62 | 5.1 | 0.5 |
| 2009 | SWB | AAA | 3 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 19.3 | 17 | 3 | 19 | 2 | 40% | .283 | 7.9 | 1.4 | 0.9 | 8.9 | 1.04 | 1.87 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 2009 | NYA | MLB | 8 | 3 | 3 | 51 | 7 | 86.0 | 68 | 28 | 96 | 8 | 36% | .280 | 7.1 | 2.9 | 0.8 | 10.0 | 1.12 | 3.03 | 21.0 | 2.1 |
| 2010 | NYA | MLB | 18 | 8 | 0 | 31 | 29 | 176.3 | 162 | 58 | 146 | 25 | 36% | .273 | 8.3 | 3.0 | 1.3 | 7.5 | 1.25 | 4.19 | 13.6 | 1.4 |
| 2011 | NYA | MLB | 5 | 5 | 0 | 17 | 14 | 74.7 | 84 | 27 | 47 | 9 | 34% | .304 | 10.1 | 3.3 | 1.1 | 5.7 | 1.49 | 5.79 | 7.1 | 0.8 |
| 2011 | TRN | AA | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 9.7 | 6 | 4 | 11 | 0 | 0% | .261 | 5.6 | 3.7 | 0.0 | 10.2 | 1.03 | 1.86 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 2011 | STA | A- | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 4.3 | 3 | 1 | 7 | 1 | 33% | .250 | 6.2 | 2.1 | 2.1 | 14.5 | 0.92 | 2.08 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 2012 | NYA | MLB | 16 | 13 | 0 | 32 | 32 | 191.3 | 196 | 46 | 165 | 35 | 33% | .286 | 9.2 | 2.2 | 1.6 | 7.8 | 1.26 | 4.19 | 18.7 | 1.9 |
| 2013 | NYA | MLB | 2 | 3 | 0 | 8 | 8 | 41.3 | 53 | 11 | 37 | 8 | 31% | .354 | 11.5 | 2.4 | 1.7 | 8.1 | 1.55 | 5.88 | 4.2 | 0.4 |
| Date On | Date Off | Transaction | Days | Games | Side | Body Part | Injury | Severity | Surgery Date | Reaggravation |
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| 2013-04-07 | 2013-04-13 | DTD | 6 | 9 | - | General Medical | Illness | - | - | |
| 2013-03-22 | 2013-04-06 | 15-DL | 15 | 4 | - | Upper Back | Recovery From Cartilage Injury | Bulging Disc | - | - |
| 2013-02-19 | 2013-03-22 | Camp | 31 | 0 | - | Upper Back | Cartilage Injury | Bulging Disc | - | - |
| 2012-10-17 | 2012-10-19 | DTD | 2 | 0 | - | Back | Stiffness | - | - | |
| 2011-09-18 | 2011-09-25 | DTD | 7 | 7 | - | Back | Inflammation | Reaggravation From 2004 Herniated Disc | - | - |
| 2011-04-15 | 2011-07-06 | 60-DL | 82 | 73 | Right | Shoulder | Inflammation | and Fatigue | - | |
| 2008-04-30 | 2008-09-13 | 60-DL | 136 | 118 | Right | Trunk | Stress Fracture | Rib Cage Ninth Rib | - | |
| 2007-05-27 | 2007-05-27 | On-Alr | 0 | 0 | Left | Ankle | Sprain | - | ||
| 2007-05-02 | 2007-08-04 | 60-DL | 94 | 85 | Left | Thigh | Strain | Hamstring | - | |
| 2004-09-01 | 2004-09-01 | Minors | 0 | 0 | - | Back | Cartilage Injury | Herniated Disc | - | - |
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| 2012-01-30 13:00:00 | What do you think the Yankees should do with Phil Hughes and AJ Burnett, assuming Ivan Nova gets a spot in the rotation? (PJ from Bronx) | You'd think Nova would have earned the spot, though I'm skeptical of his ability to repeat given his low strikeout rate (unless the new ground ball effects persist). Hughes seems likely for the bullpen, and at this point maybe you have to stop thinking about what he was or might have been and accept what he is. I think they really have to look at Burnett as a sunk cost and make him someone else's problem. (Steven Goldman) |
| 2011-09-20 13:00:00 | Considering how Colon has fared in recent starts, wouldn't it make sense to skip him once? I can't help but think he's gassed after pitching only intermittently the past few years. Any ideas about Sweaty Freddy Garcia? He seems to have lost his touch since the knife incident. (Nick Stone from New York, NY) | It might make sense to skip Colon, though it's worth noting that his two unsettling starts this month have come against the Blue Jays, who have absolutely pasted him this year (26 runs, 21 earned, in 23.2 innings). Take those away and his RA/9 drops from 4.56 to 3.40. Fortunately for him, Toronto won't be making the playoffs. Both of his starts would come against the Rays; the first one is the nightcap of tomorrow's doubleheader, but I'd consider resting him for the second one, or restricting him to a short appearance.
I'd be more concerned about Garcia, who has suddenly gone gopher happy in his last few turns. As I wrote today at Pinstriped Bible (http://www.pinstripedbible.com/2011/09/20/upside-downer), the bottom line is that the Yankees have their hands full figuring out their postseason rotation, determining if Phil Hughes' late mini-surge is enough to justify giving him a start ahead of one of those Scrap Heapers (I think the vote is in on A.J. Burnett). (Jay Jaffe) |
| 2011-08-04 13:00:00 | Why do teams keep asking Yanks for their entire farm system in prospective trades, as if it's 1985 and/or George's ghost is going to emerge to force Cashman to agree? Yanks haven't done a deal like that since 2000 for Neagle, and even then the prospects they gave up turned into Bust, Buster & Busted. (DrManhattan from NYC, NY) | Teams try to extort the Yankees because they're working with an outdated paradigm of the way the organization functions. Which isn't to say it isn't without its dysfunctions, but the Yankees have moved a long ways from the days when they so willingly surrendered prospects that went on to flourish elsewhere. I looked at this years ago in one of my first BP articles, "The Claussen Pickle" - they've generally done a very good job of avoiding giving up on Jay Buhners. If these were the Madness of King George days, Phil Hughes and Joba Chamberlain would have been in other uniforms for 3-4 years now. (Jay Jaffe) |
| 2011-04-13 13:00:00 | Do you think Yankees did something wrong with Phil Hughes and Joba Chamberlain, or do their struggles fall under the heading of young pitchers will break your heart?
I find myself turning my eyes (and hopes) to Manny Banuelos... (Rob from Andover, CT) | It's easy to look back and question the way the Yanks handled both arms. That said, its not uncommon for "can't miss" pitchers to miss. I think Hughes still has a bright future. I can't say the same for Chamberlain. Banuelos should develop into a solid starter at the major league level, but if he fails to take that final step, I'm not sure how much the Yankees will be to blame. (Jason Parks) |
| 2011-04-05 13:00:00 | Steven: Great work at Politics & Prose last month! Anyway, where are you on the Phil Hughes velocity issue: a) still building up arm strength or b) something nefarious is going on and this is an ominous sign? (JZirinsky from Washington, DC) | Thanks! We love going to P&P and I hope the recently-announced sale does good things for the store. Re Hughes, that's the $100,000 question, and I wish I knew the answer. In our last Collateral Damage here at BP (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=13436) Corey Dawkins had some dire things to say, but I hope he's wrong. The last thing the Yankees need is to start believing that only veterans stay healthy or something. What I wonder is if this issue, if indeed it is an issue, really began last May, not this April. Hughes has not pitched consistently well since the middle of May, 2010. (Steven Goldman) |
| 2011-02-08 14:00:00 | On Phil Hughes: Is the dominance he showed in the first half real, and was the 2nd half the result of a workload increase and growing pains or more likely the norm? (Jquinton82 from NY) | I'm actually pretty bullish on Hughes, and expect he'll be fine this year. The talent has always been there, and he's, what, 25? I also like that fact that Buchholz shows up on his comps. I don't think the Yankees rotation is quite the shambles that some are making it out to be. (Ken Funck) |
| 2011-01-12 13:00:00 | Hi Steve,
What are your estimates of the ERAs needed from the Yankees' 4th and 5th starters so that the team can win a post-season berth? (bumphadley from NJ) | I love the reference to Bump Hadley, noted headhunter. If the offense is as solid as it should be, the Yankees should have some flexibility with the RA of their back-end starters, and don't forget the bullpen should be pretty reliable as well, so it's not like they have to go seven every time out. I'm not sure why we should get crazy if they pitch to a 5.00 ERA. Phil Hughes did it from May 15 on and nearly won 20 games. Not every pitcher on the Yankees has to be Steve Carlton '72. (Steven Goldman) |
| 2010-11-02 13:00:00 | Do you feel Cashner is better utilized in pen or rotation for the Cubs? (Matt from Chicago) | Any pitcher who has value is better utilized in a starting rotation. I don't care if this is Joba Chamberlain, Phil Hughes, Neftali Feliz, etc, because my opinion stays the same. Getting 165-200 innings of quality production is much more valuable than 55 innings. (Eric Seidman) |
| 2010-08-26 13:00:00 | Hi Marc, thanks for the chat. I'm trying to pick 5 keepers from this bunch: Hellickson, Heyward, Stanton, Aroldis Chapman, Phil Hughes, Pedro Alvarez, Jesus Montero, Neftali Feliz, Lincecum...Should I try to corner the young pitching market with Hughes, Hellickson, Chapman, Lincecum, Feliz or are the 2 20-year old OFs more valuable? (cbelford from Chicago) | In real life, you can never have too much pitching. But in fantasy, you need to bet on the sure thing more often, because the reason you can never have too much pitching is due to the volatility of the performances and concerns over injuries. I am much more comfortable keeping the two 20 year old outfielders and Pedro Alvarez than by going all pitching. Heyward, Stanton, Alvarez, Feliz, Lincecum would be my five from your group. If you can make a trade by packaging some of the others together, I would explore it. (Marc Normandin) |
| 2010-07-23 13:00:00 | What's up with Phil Hughes? His numbers lately haven't been too impressive. Fatigue? Over-reliance on the cutter? Has the league adjusted to him and does he need to make a re-adjustment? Injury? (Nick Stone from New York, NY) | Hey, Nick, thanks for dropping by! As I noted first via Twitter yesterday (@jay_jaffe) and then again in today's Hit List, Hughes has a 6.85 ERA since the Yankees skipped his turn a few weeks back, and a 5.51 ERA over his last 11 starts. I think everything you mentioned could be a factor in varying degrees, with the bottom line being that he doesn't seem to be getting as much movement on his pitches, and hitters are responding better. Let's not forget the fact that he's pitched a ton of competitive innings this year already, far more so than he's been on pace for in recent years, and could be having a physical and mental impact on his game. (Jay Jaffe) |
| 2010-08-04 13:00:00 | again on Fowler: but maybe it actually was a legal catch. see the ending of this post and the quote from Jim Evans: "...former umpire Jim Evans has the answer. He stated, "The word 'or' should be inserted in between the three requirements of a catch." With that in mind, how is this for an amended catch rule:
A fielder can make a legal catch of a batted ball if he has secure possession of the ball, or control of the ball, or makes a voluntary and intentional release of the ball."
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-123329109.html
(JayStellmach from Sacramento) | What is the intention of that last clause? Is it really there to insist that a fielder stay conscious after catching the ball, or simply to prevent controversies if the fielder drops the ball while making the transfer?
...Good start for Phil Hughes today. And the Yankees really needed it. (Steven Goldman) |
| 2010-07-06 14:00:00 | The New York Yankees have been having abnormal years by players, CC Sabathia, Phil Hughes, Andy Pettitte, Robinson Cano, Mark Texiera, A-Rod, Nick Swisher, did I miss anyone? Are these years for real or has luck played a major factor in their years? (SabrGreg from Westchester, NY) | Every team has its share of surprising performances, though, right? And how many of these are truly shocking over the sample size we're talking about? By the end of the season, Swisher probably won't be hitting .296, Pettitte won't have a sub-3.00 ERA, etc. If I had call one of those seasons the most "for real," I'd go with Hughes. (Ben Lindbergh) |
| 2010-07-09 13:00:00 | With Lee that means the Yankees have six starters for five slots. Barring an injury we don't know about, it would seem that Vazquez would be the odd man out, but do you think there's any chance the Yankees are self-defeating enough to move Phil Hughes back to the pen? (mattymatty2000 from Portland, OR) | I don't think the Yankees would mind separating themselves from Vazquez, and he's the most probable one to move due to his contract, whereas Burnett is firmly rooted in New York because his isn't running out as soon. Hughes will most likely stay in the rotation. (Marc Normandin) |
| 2010-05-05 13:00:00 | I'm in a shallow 8 team league with some friends. I drafter Chipper, but grabbed Headley on the waiver wire. Do I drop Chipper and grab a pitcher? Jaime Garcia, Brad Penny, Phil Hughes, Brett Cecil, and Wade Davis are all available.
Bonus round: I already snagged CJ Wilson off the wire. Do you like any of the guys I listed better than CJ? Thanks! (Gregjitsu from Cal) | I like C.J. Wilson a lot. I think he's like Buehrle with more strikeouts (more walks too, though). I wonder why he started out as a reliever, because he's got the stuff and repertoire to be a starter.
Hughes, Cecil or Davis would all be worthwhile IMO. Cecil will probably give you the fewest wins though, when the Jays remember they are the Jays. (Marc Normandin) |
| 2010-05-05 13:00:00 | Two questions Marc: 1) Phil Hughes, really this good or are we going to some regression and growing pains as the league catches up? 2) Jenrry Mejia, does the continued presence in the bullpen stunt his development or is really a valuable learning experience? ... I think he'd be better served pitching in the minor every 5th day given his upside. (Jquinton82 from NY) | I'm with you on Mejia. He's not going to have time to mess with his array of pitches if he's in the bullpen pitching every now and again. That's the Mets for you though.
I like Hughes a lot and have for a long time now. His walk rate is still a bit high for me, but you have to love the strikeout rate. I think he's pretty legit (with obvious SSS ERA caveats). (Marc Normandin) |
| 2010-02-23 13:00:00 | Hi Steven. Liked your recent stuff on Wholesome Reading...anyway, my question is this: if the Yankees are serious about innings limits, then how is this 5th starter competition even a competition? Phil Hughes will only be able to throw a certain number of innings (i.e. not enough), while Joba has been stretched out and should be ready to contribute a bunch, right? (JZirinsky from Washington, DC) | Thanks for the good words on Wholesome Reading.com. I'm happy to be back and talking history and politics, and there's a new section brewing that is about a month away that I'm kind of excited about. After last season's Joba implosion, the questions is to see if he can achieve consistency. Hughes also has a crazy high upside as a starter and you have to start the process somewhere, innings limits or not. (Steven Goldman) |
| 2009-12-17 13:00:00 | I really hate the idea of a rotating DH spot for the Yanks because it means the Yanks will have to rely on positional depth which has not been strong point in recent years. Also, the market for a primary DH is flooded and can be had for cheap. My question is, does the rotating DH spot make any sort of sense? And more generally, what should the Yanks do the rest of the offseason? (Nick from San Francisco) | I don't have a problem conceptually with the idea of a rotating DH spot, particularly with a bunch of guys who need rest built into their regimens -- A-Rod, Posada, even Jeter and Damon, if he returns -- but you're absolutely right, they need some depth in order to make that worth their while. Mark DeRosa would seem to be a very good choice for such a task, and he's still out there if the Yankees want to go that route.
Beyond that, the Yankees' need to solve left field one way or another, and find a capable back-rotation type who would be comfortable working out of the bullpen so Joba Chamberlain and Phil Hughes can both get a shot at the rotation. (Jay Jaffe) |
| 2009-12-17 13:00:00 | What will become of Phil Hughes? Help me Obi Wan!! (norcal from slopes) | Hughes will go back to the rotation armed with the cut fastball he learned from Mariano Rivera - the reason he become so dominant in relief in 2009 - and will establish himself as an above-average major league starter. (Jay Jaffe) |
| 2009-10-05 16:00:00 | What would you do with Phil Hughes next season? Did the arguments that worked for Joba not apply to him? Is this an easy one? Thanks! (Tony from Brooklyn, NY) | Any good pitcher is going to be worth much more to a team in the starting rotation as opposed to the bullpen, even with the crucialness of the late inning situations taken into account. Hughes came up as a 21-yr old in 2007 and put up a 4.46 ERA and 2.00 K/BB in the AL and was unjustly given up on after 8 starts last year as a 22-yr old. He's now 23 and just finished a season in which he posted a K/9 approaching 11.0, a K/BB approaching 3.50, and a 3.03 ERA. The guy deserves another shot in the rotation. I guess that comes at Pettitte's expense? (Eric Seidman) |
| 2009-07-24 16:30:00 | Any feeling about what the Yanks should do this trade deadline? (Nick from NYC) | Move Phil Hughes into the starting rotation, try and trade for someone like Jason Frasor or Chad Qualls. (Eric Seidman) |
| 2009-07-30 14:00:00 | Is there anybody out there still speaking of "Joba to the Bullpen"? I donīt have much access to mainstream media (yeah, I know, it is strange!) but I figure it must have been dropped some time ago. (Guillermo from Madrid, Spain) | It does seem that the Joba to the pen talk has died down now that Phil Hughes to the Pen has worked so well for the Yanks. (John Perrotto) |
| 2009-08-04 14:00:00 | What does the hype around Phil Hughes and Matt Wieters tell us about Strasburg and others in the future? (karysingh from Beloit, WI) | Couldn't help but get a dry chuckle from your question. "Curb your enthusiasm, lest it jump right over the curb and leave you in a ditch, smacked up against a culvert." We do need to avoid getting totally insane about some prospects, yes. That said, Wieters really is going to be good. Hughes really is good. And Strasburg? I don't think we're talking Brian Bullington here. (Folks will always remember Bullington, which takes the Reds off the hook for taking Chris Gruler with the third overall pick somewhat, I guess. A peek at that draft reflects a lot of massive early-pick disappointments.) (Christina Kahrl) |
| 2009-06-25 13:00:00 | Have you gotten to see much of Phil Hughes in action? How's he holding up this season? Do you still think he has a high upside (#2 starter)? (Rob from Brighton) | Yes, I do, and I hate the decision to stick him in the pen. Any time you guys want to shoot the #6 starter...anytime. (Joe Sheehan) |
| 2009-06-24 13:00:00 | Do you approve of the way the Yankees are using Phil Hughes? (Eric from Manorville) | I do in the short term. I think there's nothing wrong with giving a young pitcher who has had trouble with consistency some lower pressure outings in the pen. Hughes has been good enough, though, that it's time to explore the upside, be it back in the rotation, which might eliminate the will he/won't he Wang stuff, or in higher leverage relief situations. (Steven Goldman) |
| 2009-06-08 14:00:00 | Hi Joe. True or false? The Yankees would be better off with Alfredo Aceves and Phil Hughes in the rotation (in place of Pettitte and Wang). (Joe V. from Washington, DC) | I'm as big an Aceves fan as you'll find, and I'm not sure I'd start him over Wang. I was there last Thursday, and Wang wasn't that bad, caught some bad breaks in the third that set everything else up. Pettitte is clearly the team's #6, and signing him to block Hughes, even at the cost, was not a great idea. Aceves or Kennedy could have taken some starts if you really wanted to bring Hughes along slowly. (Joe Sheehan) |
| 2009-06-03 15:00:00 | What do the Yankees need to do to hold onto (I know its early) a playoff spot? Sort through their pile of middle relief arms? Or do they need to make a trade? Anything else they should address? Do you think the improved defense and increased Ks mean they are less likely to crash out of the Division Series, as they did in '02, '05-'07? (Nick Stone from New York, NY) | Hey Nick! The Yanks certainly need to fortify their bullpen, and in the forthcoming BP/ESPN soup du jour I've advocated they try Phil Hughes in relief once Chien-Ming Wang reclaims his starting job. I'd also like to see them give Mark Melancon another look, but I suspect they probably need to get an experienced arm from outside the organization if Brian Bruney's not going to be back anytime soon.
The improved D and high-K staff are nice, but they're compromised by the homer-iffic tendencies of the staff, particularly the bullpen. Until we see Sabathia, Chamberlain and Burnett all firing on the requisite cylinders, I don't think they've got anything that guarantees them a playoff spot, let alone a ride through to the LCS round. (Jay Jaffe) |
| 2009-05-21 14:00:00 | Joe, I've figured out Phil Hughes problem. Number 65. This is an offensive lineman's number, not a pitcher's number. It looks completely wrong. Bad taste, probably bad karma. (Tom Saippe from CT) | And yet, Joba Chamberlain survives. (Joe Sheehan) |
| 2009-05-12 13:00:00 | Is Phil Hughes staying or going? (Eric from Manorville) | Bunch of questions about Phil Hughes, though it's possible they're all from the same fellow under multiple aliases. Mom, is that you? Actually, I doubt my mom thinks about Phil Hughes much. She might think about Mickey Mantle sometimes... I think he should stay, and the Yankees will get their reward for putting up with the inconsistency -- ultimately, he'll break through. Now that's what I think, not necessarily what they'll do when/as/if Wang looks ready and Hughes hasn't made a stronger impression, and maybe you can't argue about it if they're still competitive at that point. If they're just string along as they are currently, maybe it's a different matter.
...I should have mentioned Paul Richards before in that manager question. Before my time, but he seemingly had a lot on the ball. In a minor key way, I've also wondered why Jim LeFebrve didn't get more respect given what he accomplished with the M's and the Cubs. ...And why isn't Whitey Herzog in the HOF? (Steven Goldman) |
| 2009-05-07 14:00:00 | Kevin: Is Phil Hughes back? The stuff seems to be back to where it was in 2007 (I know, I know, it's only been two starts). (Joe V. from Washington, DC) | Sure, he's totally back! Maybe! How many times have we collectively thought he's back? All we can say is that maybe he is, and maybe he isn't. (Kevin Goldstein) |
| 2008-01-31 13:00:00 | We all know the A's got more for Haren than the Twins did for Santana. But did they get more than the Twins in the Swisher trade as well? (mbring from Saint Cloud, MN) | Excellent question! Or at least current, as I had discussions like this with a handfull of team officials yesterday. I do know people inside the game who would rather have the Swisher package than the Santana package, but it was almost universal, that teams would rather have Philip Hughes alone, as opposed to the four now-former Mets. (Kevin Goldstein) |
| 2008-01-10 13:00:00 | "You're trading for one year of a player and the rights to sign him to a market-value contract for six or more seasons." I've seen several smart people make this as argument against trading for Santana. It seems to me, however, that having exclusive negotiating rights is actually worth something. With the game "swimming in cash" there is a real advantage to not actually have to bid against other teams. Isn't this something like the opposite of the winner's curse? Just curious for your thoughts. (bjlevy34 from Santa Clara, CA) | Those rights are worth something. However, they're not worth much when there's no discount to be had, and at that, they're not worth the price being paid.
We can see Santana's past. We can't see Philip Hughes' future. It takes a strong will to argue not only that you're not trading for A, but that B might end up looking like A. Throw in $150 million with B now. Is that worth the risk? Throw in two other players. Everyone is acting rationally. I suppose the one lesson to be learned here is that no-trade clauses aren't worth it. Pay more in cash and retain your flexibility. If Smith could trade Santana for a package that reflects his one-year value, he'd get a lot further than he has been getting. (Joe Sheehan) |
| Date | Roundtable Name | Comment |
|---|---|---|
| 2010-07-13 16:30:00 | All-Star Game | And Phil Hughes, who hadn't really pitched like an All-Star but for once start since mid-May, takes the loss. (Steven Goldman) |
| 2009-10-28 17:00:00 | 2009 WS Game One | Joel (GA): Maybe THIS will be the game where everyone blames the relievers and not the manager... nah. If the Yankees don't score, it's kind of moot what they did, but clearly the Yankees have some work to do, particularly with Phil Hughes. And now we have a pitcher in the game who is prone to wildness and hasn't worked in about a month. (Steven Goldman) |
| 2009-10-28 17:00:00 | 2009 WS Game One | Speaking of Steve Trout and Ed Whitson, meet Phil Hughes. (Steven Goldman) |
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