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Wow- you have such little respect for the professional umpires that they only get 45-60% correct?
I didn't see the play you are referring to, but it sounds like a simple judgement call where the ump didnt see it your way. If you think there are problems with umpiring now on blow calls.....imagine the can of worms that will be opened if we start reviewing judgement calls. I thought it was only fair/foul, bang-bang out/safe calls that the IR proponents were after.
If we start reviewing judgement calls- might as well fire the umps, set-up a rules committee in each stadium press box....and have 8 hour games.
I have seen no evidence of teams tanking for the 1st pick.
This isn't the NBA, where you can potentially draft 20% of your starting lineup for the next 10 years.
Of all the potential issues that need addressing in MLB, the draft order is not one of them, imo.
Strawman? Anyone watch the O's-Red Sox game Saturday evening? Notice how long it took to overrule the call that turned Jake Fox's double into a HR?
It was an easy call. It was obvious to most watching and EVERYONE on replay that it was a HR. It still took a long time for the umps to review it. The announcers (Gary Thorne, Mike Flanagan) made a comment at the 5-minute mark....that they were still waiting for the umps.
Five minutes for an obvious call? How long for a really close one?
Until you want to go totally hi-tech with every pitch (strike or ball), than I don't want to selectively look at a few close calls. Baseball is an imperfect game that will never be perfect until the humans are out of it. Then it will be perfect, but not fun.
As long as umps are calling them as they see it- it is a fair game. I am happy with it just the way it is. Bad calls are just another variable, like weather, field conditions, etc... that both teams have to deal with.
Points (or what we call runs in baseball) is what it is all about. Score more than the other team- your team WINS!
How does the player(s) contribute to that ultimate team goal (ie more runs = wins) is the context OBP, SLG should be explained.
And the concept of collecting bases via bb (OBP), xbh, hr (SLG)is easy enough for any one to understand.
The walk/base hit gets you on base (1/4 to scoring), double gets you halfway to a run, twice as far as a bb, HR = 1 run, etc...
Player stats have to be explained in how they relate to the TEAM goals (ie scoring/winning). Explaining any stats without tying it into the team concept loses meaning, imo. Like Cal Ripken tells coaches at clinics about teaching baseball fundamentals to kids (I think the same applies here)- you always should explain "why"? Don't always assume that people will always instinctively "get it", even if it seems obvious.
I also like the idea of fielding graphics (lol at the Jeter/Andrus comparison in an earlier post).
What a thread. Some of you should thank your lucky stars and count your blessings if THIS (not getting the book for another 2 or 3 days-HORRORS!) is such a CRISIS in your life.
And one guy even drove 100 miles for it?
I like the book, too. But, Wow!
Why not do it? Of course the pitcher will most likely be an inferior defender in LF/RF, but the pitcher/batter matchup is far more important than the level of the defender. Any mlb pitcher has shagged enough bp fly balls in his career to handle the routine plays IF they come his way.
Yes, the salary cap has worked in the other sports.
At the very least, fans in Tampa, Minn, GB and others know that their NY competitor cannot buy all the FA's.
Perception is reality- MLB has screwed up economics because millions of fans believe it.
The "socialism" digs are silly in reference to the salary cap. A sport league is a different animal than the "real world". A sport league needs ALL of its members to be healthy and have a fair chance to be competitive.
To say that *all* a cap will do is "transfer wealth" from owners to players is ridiculous, imo. It might help control costs and give fans a sense of fairness. No one in this game is going to the soup lines.
The fairest way to handle salaries for both owners and players is to have 100% Free Agency- EVERY YEAR. No more multiple year contracts. Of course, the MLBPA (or the militant pro-mlbpa hypocrites who throw out the socialism charges at the cap idea) don't want that. They only want limited free agency where they can manipulate the supply to increase the demand.
To be factually correct- the Forbes numbers for 2008 show the Twins made 23.8 million.
The Padres made 23.6 mill.
Padres get a softball puff piece and the Twins get cheap shots over 200k difference?
Give me a break.
The real difference is who owns the teams. The BP (militantly pro- MLBPA) template says the Twins are "bad" simply because of Pohlad and the Pads are "good" because of Moorad (former agent).
Rather than worry about how much profit (horrors!!!) a team makes, how about comparing Wins and Titles- Padres fall waaay short of the Twins.
Richie- that is an excellent post. I have stated (less coherently) often some of the same points. What many of those who criticize the small market GM's ad nauseum for every move that doesn't pan out don't understand is that these guys aren't doing "franchise mode" on an XBox, they don't work in a vacuum. They have to show real results which often means in reference to FA's- plan F (cause plan A, B, C, D won't even return a call and sign with NYY/Bos/NYY/NYM).
The mlb economic system is set-up for the second tier teams to fight over and inflate the price of mediocre talent.
No, the answer to the true heart of the question is that the players (roids, tax evasion, etc) have no moral high ground to stand on vs the owners.
But, I know that goes against the MLBPA/BP "template" where anything under the sun that has to do with players and agents = GOOD!
Anything Bud Selig/Owners = evil.
Life is so simple when everything is so cut and dry, huh?
Joe, are you serious?
Convicted Tax Cheats, who lied about their income to avoid paying their fair share- Pete Rose, Barry Bonds, Darryl Strawberry, Willie McCovey, Jose Canseco, Denny McLain and Jerry Koosman all say HELLO! (and that is just off the top of my head).
How about we "equate players with owners" when you can submit a list of owners who have broked and been convicted of FEDERAL laws?
I agree wit adkbaseballchronicle- BP is MILITANTLY pro-MLBPA to the point where they are so predictable and blinded by their partisanship.
On any issue from steroids to labor- everything is written from their extreme pro-mlbpa bias. And ALL of them here carry the same agenda. No "diversity" on the staff.
And the minions fall in line- witness the negative ratings when anyone critizes dear leader joe or points out BP parroting MLBPA talking points.
LOL, give it an hour (or two) and this post will be hidden under the negative ratings.
Exclude Mariano? Ok. And exlude about 16.5 million people and NY and KC have the same market size.
The small markets are damned if they do, damned if they don't.
People whine when the KC's of the league don't spend money. Then when they do- it is critized. Maybe some of this "stupid" spending is out of frustration to show their fans/media that they are trying. In KC's reality- they have to fish in the ponds where a Guillen type is the "big fish".
LOL, KC should have just signed Sabathia. Do you really think he, or any top FA, takes KC (or Mil, Pit, Bal, TB, etc) seriously?
CC signed for 7/161. An avg of 23 million per year. If you owned a business that had sales of around 100 million, would you risk a guaranteed contract of 200 mill (probably the value KC would have to submit to get a serious look) for ONE employee?
It sounds like your goal is not fixing any economic issues in baseball.
It appears that your priority is simply to keep every last dime out of those "evil owners" pockets. Wow- that is a noble goal. (insert sarcasm emoticon).
My "dreamworld" is better than your jealousy-world.
JUST TO BE CLEAR- my last post where I suggested that if you are for NYY unlimited spending you are against min. wages, all taxes, etc.. was SARCASM. It was an attempt to use absurdity to respond to an absurd statement.
One's opinions on an economic structure and rules of MLB have nothing to do with political beliefs, in my opinion.
That is just a NYY fan strawman argument.
it cuts both ways- if you are for unlimited Yanks spending, you are against min. wages, taxes, social programs, etc...
Baseball is a game. The teams should start on an equal footing. Money is the equalizer.
Why does Milton Bradley Games tell Monopoly Players that all participants start with the same $2,500? Why not just let the first guy to show up at the board take a couple of fistfulls and allow the last few guys to the board fight over the last few 5 and 10 dollar bills.
Bottom line- mlb economic structure is screwed up. It is complicated- there is no easy fix. I don't pretend to have all the answers. But, you cannot deny it.
As far as two more teams in NY- in theory you are correct.
In reality- it wouldn't work.
Adding two more teams to NY simply will never happen.
BP is militantly pro-MLBA. Salary cap is "bad" for everyone is just a union talking point that is repeated ad nauseum. The idea is always dismissed. But, the devil would be in the details.
The priority in fixing the MLB economic structure shouldn't be the players or the owners. In the end, either group will come out fine regardless of whether either side (or both) has to sacrifice something for the good of the game.
It should be about the FANS. The mlb economic structure now is hurting the integrity of the game and fairness. The fans in all cities want their team to have a fair shot at winning, like the NFL. Most in small markets don't feel like they have a shot. That is why baseball is losing popularity in many areas.
In the end- what is good for the fans is good for the game.
If the whole thing (MLB) blew off the face of the earth- who would start from scratch and do it the same way? No one.
Salary caps are bad for everyone but the owners?
And you know this because......
It sure has helped small market franchises in the NFL compete. Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Tampa have all won SB's in the last 10 years. Teams in GB, Min, Tenn and other small markets are competitive.
Why are some fans more concerned about preventing an owner from pocketing another dime than making a level playing field for all the franchises?
Jealousy, class warfare is not healthy. It doesn't make sense not to try things because some guy (billionaire owner) who is comfortable financially MIGHT pocket another dollar. Big deal.
Under NO circumstances in today's pro sports will the players get "screwed" financially. Besides, just factor in the CBA that players must get a fixed percentage of the revenue.
About using resources efficiently- that is the point:
A KC, TB, PIT etc.. has to be damn near perfect (100% efficient) to have a prayer at winning.
The NYY can be inefficient as they want and sign 3 Jaret Wrights a year......with no penalty. They just write another blank check.
At the end of the day- you cannot compare the Yankees and Royal or Twins.
The amount of money that the Yanks can spend dwarf the Royals and Twins.
Money is the mothers milk of all business endeavors.
To blame Min or KC for not being successful as NYY because they do not make good decisions or use their resources wisely is silly. And you know it.
How about you and I compete in a contest. You can have $100,000 and I will have $1,000,000. The contest- who can build and furnish a nicer house. The winner gets to keep the house.
No whining about the disparity now... Just make good decisions on sq footage, furniture, fixtures, etc....
Hey, you MIGHT be able to build a better house for 100k than I can for 1 mill, but it is probably about the same chance as KC winning the WS. Slim and none.
The NBA is more exciting when the Lakers and Celtics are good?
Only if they earned their "goodness" on a level playing field.
It is funny (or is it sad) how many here will mark a post a negative if it disagrees with Joe's opinion or the consensus.
Yeah, all they need is for 7 million more people to hurry up and move to within 30 miles of them.
Sure, you can be excited for the NYY.
But, it has to be hollow.
Like my kids varsity team scrimmaging the jv team, winning and then bragging about it. LOL.
The advantage is such that the Yanks can be considered chokers each year they do not win.
Salary cap isn't a fair solution? We are talking about a game. Having all teams playing under the same rules would be ideal. Kind of like how the game of Monopoly instructs all players to start with the same amount from the bank.
I do not know a fair and equitable solution to get to a salary cap. But, I would think the goal would be for teams to win/lose on their skills in selecting, developing talent rather than who can write the biggest checks.
KC splurges on a f/a bust- they are done for a few years. NYY can miss on 4 or 5 EVERY year and not miss a beat.
Talk of how a salary cap would screw the players is ridiculous. Simply negotiate a fixed percentage of the revenue to the players. If revenue tanks- players share the cost, if it grows- they share in the growth.
Edit: Oops when I posted "this post", I meant to say the one posted above by sbnirish77.
Why in the world was this post hidden?
Dinging a post just because it is critical is shameful.
The only post I would consider dinging is one that attacks another personally or uses offensive language.
Wasn't the first 0-2 pitch to Jones a low breaking ball and Jones barely hit it with the result being a weak foul down the 3rd base line?
Bell should have followed up with the same pitch, maybe a little lower. He likely would have struck out.
I was surprised he kept a) throwing fastballs and b) throwing them up in the zone.
But, as a longtime Orioles fan, I am happy that Jones was able to contribute to the AL win.