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The Waterfalls reference: So horrible, so delightfully wonderful.
Really enjoyed this perspective. Thanks for personal story about prospect fatigue. It's so easy to forget how young so many of these guys are.
I feel Seattle and BP are a marriage made in heaven.
I know that some other sites have the feel-good prospect of the year candidate TJ Friedl ranked pretty highly in their org ranks, but I can't even seem to find a profile for him on here. Thoughts on Friedl? (And can we get a profile for him added so we can track the guy?)
I feel the exact same way about those 1987 Topps. Those are the bread and butter of my childhood. I remember thinking that they just looked so Classic with a capital C. I was 9, though, so my taste was questionable, but despite absolutely hating the Oakland A's back then, I still remember <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=18272">Alfredo Griffin</a></span>'s card and thinking that he was the epitome of everything that was cool.
<span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=59432">Mike Trout</a></span> with an aluminum bat would cause so many on-the-field casualties that the MLB would have to increase the bench size just so the opposing team could still field a team by the fourth inning.
I know that some people are really fond of <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=51645">Jose Quintana</a></span> around here, but I didn't know that it was to the point where we were just calling him Jesus now.
Thanks for this, Patrick. Always love to see articles about the Mariners on here. I've always had a soft spot for <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=20970">Alvin Davis</a></span>, and I'm happy to see some talk of him taking place in the Edgar HOF discussion fall-out.
When you have an organization that cannot celebrate organizational success, why not celebrate the history of its players itself? They are the stories that we grew up celebrating. The Edgars, Buhners, Griffeys, and such. Let's celebrate them!
So are we saying that ace starters are now undervalued in the sense that people generally try to avoid paying for aces?
I guess I'm looking to see how this effects deep mixed league starting pitcher values.
Thanks, Matt. I enjoyed reading this report all year long.
I'm curious as to your suggestion with Musgrove. What signs has he given in his recent performance that warrants even a "start" rating over a "consider"?
I say this as somebody who recently jettisoned him from my squad in favor of <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=67083">Robbie Ray</a></span>.
I'm not sure what it says about my team that I'm already rostering three of these guys. I'd like to think that it says that I'm ahead of the curve, but in reality, it probably just says that I'm desperate.
Thanks for helping me curb my feelings of well... I don't know. But thank you regardless!
When are you going to head up BP Seattle? Make it happen, you brilliant writer, you.
Great read, George. Love reading the analysis of the spring training observations.
Even thought we don't have a BP Seattle (YET), can we get Meg's thoughts on the Mariners? I think they'd be mighty enjoyable. The rest of you non-Seattlites could experiment with some schadenfreude.
So excited to see this! Thanks for all the hard work that went into this, as always.
I'm also really looking forward to the fantasy slanted version of this list. Any idea when that's coming out?
I always enjoy these articles, Jeff. I've been doing my best over the off-season to embrace more educated risk-taking, checking my sense of endowment with players, and letting go of overpriced favorites that I otherwise wouldn't have. Thanks for the articles to help encourage me to continue doing so!
So I have <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=48037">Adam Lind</a></span> for $2 in an 14 team OBP-league. Do I throw this guy back into the waters in the hopes of getting somebody better as a potential starter/hopeful back-up or just enjoy one last year of him at such a cheap price and HOPE that he doesn't implode?
As a lifelong <span class="teamdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/team_audit.php?team=SEA" target="blank">Seattle Mariners</a></span> fan (or very close to it), there are a small number of personal truths that, in the end, may be all that matters to me when it comes to Edgar:
1. He was the best designated hitter that I ever saw growing up. Granted, I'm myopic.
2. He was like the really stable father figure on a team full of flashy kids, and therefore, a pseudo-stable-father-figure for the baseball loving kid that I was.
3. That Double. It's the TRUTH.
4. He's a Hall of Famer in my heart. In fact, while in a state of extreme inebriation once, I closed my eyes and actually pictured <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/player_search.php?search_name=Edgar+Martinez">Edgar Martinez</a></span>'s smiling face as my actual heart. It was both amazing and terrifying at the same time. Mostly amazing.
And that's that. But I really, really wish that the HOF would vote him in because in some weird way, it would rectify that (wonderful) bastard <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/player_search.php?search_name=Randy+Johnson">Randy Johnson</a></span> going in as a D'Back.
Best of luck, Jeff. This article has been a must-read of mine every morning with my first cup of coffee at work. Thank you kindly for your continued excellence!
As a Mariners fan, this article was particularly depressing.
I have a hunch why you might have found it so funny. That's because it IS so funny. I laughed out loud when I read that, much to the dismay of my co-workers.
I'm think that I'm in line with your original comment on the article. Although I'm not an "expert" (nowhere close really), but I don't put a lot of value on catchers in dynasty given the extra amount of time that it seemingly takes for their bats to be ready for the bigs. Is the position what vaults Swihart up so high in Carsley's eyes or does he think that there's a huge disparity between the bats? I would think that Schwarber's power might lean things in his favor on a dynasty list. This is why I'm so curious to hear Ben's thoughts!
Interesting list. Have a minor league draft later this month were both Swihart and Schwarber are available. Mind expanding on the reasoning behind Swihart being higher and Schwarber so much lower than in Bret's rankings?
I suppose that I'll just have to wait until the shortstop rankings come out to get my Alen Hanson fix.
I've been curious about this for the last couple of days, but haven't asked. Where's Alen Hanson? Is Grant Green really a better option than him or is he still being profiled as a SS?
I'm fairly certain that Jimmy Rollins hasn't figured out a revolutionary age reversal serum unless he answered one of those spam emails, and it actually turned out to be legit. That's my long winded way of saying that I think that he might be older than 26.
Other than that, great article! Always appreciate your hard work.
Great article. Love these things. That being said, is it just me or are the fonts all over the place on this thing? Drove my eyes crazy.
Really enjoyed this article. Thanks for a great read, Daron!
That Robert Stephenson stat line just made me spit out a little bit of coffee. Ouch.
Wilson, I finally believe in AJ Burnett the week that you say to only consider him. I BELIEVE!!!
As a role-playing geek, I highly enjoyed the alignment based comparisons. Just had to let you know that SOMEbody loved those.
There goes my work day. Loving the list!
The "Wrap" refers to the Norris/Berrios discussion. It doesn't summarize the Piscotty/Almora article that it's actually attached to.
I miss you guys. Where are you?!?!? We need more TINO!
This is great. Never knew about this charity. Great cause, and now it looks like I have something to do with all of those commons of mine!
There is absolutely no way that I'm touching AJ Burnett this week. No way. The only thing worse than one AJ Burnett start is two.
That being said, I'm kind of keeping the faith. Kind of.
Can we please talk about Justin Verlander some more? What the heck, Verlander?!?
How does the Bonifacio signing affect the timetable for Alcantara? Or does it not?
Your notes after the article last year were a big highlight for me and were one of the reasons that I decided to subscribe to BP in the first place. Any reason that you chose not to do them again this year? Love the off the cuff commentary.
Good article, but I've been playing fantasy for a good ten years and have never heard of Mr. Larry Schechter. I would argue that an introduction to him is still needed at this point. Household name, he is not.
I continue to love these articles!