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A two Austin catching tandem? Is the league ready for such insanity?
<span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/player_search.php?search_name=Edgar+Martinez">Edgar Martinez</a></span> is one of the best pure hitters I've ever seen. Put him in the hall. Don't put him in the hall. I don't care. The hall is a museum. My brain knows what Edgar was as a player, and he was damn good.
As a Yankees fan living in Yankeesland, their individual score on your list doesn't surprise me. Not only are we spoiled rotten, but the mercenary fatigue has something of a stranglehold on the fanbase right now. They're a money-making machine, but the fanbase is eager for homegrown talent they feel they can cheer for.
Big market problems, right?
<span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=66018">Bryce Harper</a></span> , <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=70755">Anthony Rendon</a></span>, <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=1020">Jayson Werth</a></span> and <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/player_search.php?search_name=Ryan+Zimmerman">Ryan Zimmerman</a></span>
<span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=56196">Lucas Duda</a></span>, <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/player_search.php?search_name=David+Wright">David Wright</a></span>, <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=36252">Curtis Granderson</a></span> and <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=DARNAUD19890210A">Travis d'Arnaud</a></span>
I suppose if Washington's group can stay on the field, it could be thought of as a significant upgrade, but going by 2015 contributions, this is closer than I think people realize... I mean, unless they slot him right in front of Harper, I guess.
I like the theory that the Giants want Cueto to opt-out; that this is essentially a 2yr-$46mil offer, where they want him to pitch for a new contract that they don't want to sign. If they think he has 2 good years in him, or even 3, but not more than that, this feels good. Some other team will offer him a deal, he'll accept, and be that team's albatross.
If he breaks down too early, they're screwed.
I think the assumption is that he could get more than 15.8 period, not per year. That is, by definition, leaving money on the table, even if he can get it back with a contract next year.
1: I think it was <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=18675">Dusty Baker</a></span> who was once in New York City to manage against the Mets. He told his driver to take him to "the Stadium" and then proceeded to not pay attention as the driver took him to Yankees Stadium. It's one of my very favorite baseball stories, despite being only half-sure it was Dusty Baker.
2: I'll admit it... I had to look up "penurious".
Still can't believe that 90 games won that division. I'm happy it did, just surprised.
Isn't the neighborhood rule unreviewable? Did the umpire specifically rule on the field that Utley was out because Tejada was on the bag? Shouldn't there not even have been a review?
Then it's official... I disagree with everything you said, not just some of it.
Attempting to strangle another human being in no way constitutes "only slightly" overdoing it.
If I can get talent to work in a starting role, I always choose that over a relief role. Of course, I'm also a Yankees fan and spoiled by having solid to all-time greatness in the closer role for the last two decades. So, what do I know?
Startling how far <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=52353">Doug Fister</a></span> has fallen.
If Chewbacca lives on Endor you must acquit!
I know what you mean, but saying of Giolito that he is "built to log 200-plus innings a year" seems a bit... I don't know... maybe deserving of a qualifier in there somewhere.
I enjoyed the humor of the Yankees and Astros sections.
I feel bad for Chase Utley, that jerk.
I was very confused... very very confused.
Wow, that's a hell of a performance out of Arenado.
Wonderful article. Industry perspective is one of the reasons I subscribe to this website year after year and I'd love to see as many of these kinds of articles as possible.
The Vogelbach section is odd to me. He's off to a blistering start, which you recap in your first paragraph. The second paragraph quotes a scout praising his ability to hit to all fields and be more than just a straight power hitter. The scout even says he thinks the bat will play. But then your "level of optimism" is low. It seemed like you structured that section to show how Vogelbach is a real player and then did a complete 180 that completely disregarded what the scout said.
MLB can afford more cameras AND microphones in the field if they think that will help. We're close to not even needing human umpires, honestly.
Of course, the technology they do employ was more than adequate and they STILL got it wrong. So, who the heck knows?
I don't feel like variation in relief arms would play a significant role in an actual game, pitcher to pitcher. But I suppose I could see how it would be tough relative to the rest of the league. If you see one thing from 28 other teams and then suddenly have to face an Angels relief staff that's totally different, maybe you could get something kind of like a traveling Corrs-affect?
I, of course, have no numbers to back that up, and am pulling it off the top of my head, so I'm really just saying that I see the logic, be it flawed logic or otherwise.
Good for them, though I hope they don't turn into a modern day Braves, with everyone else in that division constantly playing for second.
"I don’t think Alderson believes this. I think he wants to walk around saying things like, “Of course he’s not that good, but we’re out of money and just wait until someone’s UCL goes flying into the third row,” and, “Sit tight, Dillon. One of these poor bastards is about to be in a world of pain.” But he can’t say either, because those would be the greatest moments in the history of general managing. We aren’t ready for that."
I love this paragraph.
As a Yankee fan, I can understand not wanting to hand out any $150mil contracts this off-season, but I honestly cannot imagine any excuse for how they didn't get Moncada. If he turns into a stud who kicks our butts 18+ times a year for the foreseeable future, it's really going to be hard to watch.
Sam Miller put the words "Clayton Kershaw" and "Tommy John surgery" in the same sentence. He should be fired immediately and banned from all baseball stadiums until Master Clayton retires.
Unfortunately, this feels like a situation where people ill equipped to make a determination are going to be forced to. I hold out hope, as it is clearly evident MLB hasn't rushed into any decisions, but I have little faith in them to make the right one. I think Josh Hamilton is beyond the point where punishment from MLB will act as an effective deterrent, nor do I think a "deterrent" is what is called for in this case.
I've given it a great deal of thought what I would do if I were in MLB's shoes and how I might parse out a situation where he could prove he is receiving treatment and avoid any kind of suspension as long as that kept on. But the truth is, I'm not any more qualified to think up a "good" solution than they are. I just hope they don't make their decision based on what they think will be best for the business of the sport. I just really and truly hope that they put that aside and try to do what's best for the man.
There aren't enough Chi Chis in professional sports. For that reason alone, I hope they go with him and he's successful.
Wait... baseball players are people?
But seriously, neat article.
I hate the shift. I understand it. If I were a manager, I'd probably use it when the situation called for it. But if it were a dude, it'd be one of those dudes with a stupid dumbface you just want to punch in the teeth. There, I said it. /complaining
Terry Collins #2? Whoa. Did not expect.
Higher average and lower power. Interesting. Thanks for the reply.
Is Vogelbach's ceiling Adam Dunn? Put a different (better?) way, what kind of prospect was Adam Dunn?
Am I the only one seeing 3-4 and not 1-2?
Birds in the hand... "I get it!".... better than those in a Busch... "Oh, now, I get it!"
"Miami would ideally seek out a center fielder who could back up Ozuna"
"[Myers] is expected to start the year in center field"
Maybe this is a dumb question, but why do the Padres want a center fielder to backup a guy who isn't going to play center?
Now batting, #2, Derek Jeter. #2.
"Without Rollins, the Dodgers would have relied on the punchless duo of Miguel Rojas and Erisbel Arruebarrena, the latter of whom is more of a threat to announcers than he is at the plate." - That's excellent. Just excellent.
The Cubs being good is good for baseball. I don't know how to quantify that in any meaningful way other than to call upon my personal feelings towards that organization. As a Yankees fan who isn't too thrilled with his team's current outlook, I really want the Cubs to be good. They are one of those "other teams" I enjoy rooting for as long as they aren't playing my team.
I have trouble singling out any one decision made by Bochy in 1998 during a series in which his team was totally wiped out.
If you listen to sports talk radio in NY, you know that many of the on air personalities laugh at the "Big Game James" moniker, specifically due to his career numbers versus the Red Sox and Yankees, which they deem not good enough. He has an ERA over 4 and a losing record against both teams. (insert obligatory comment about how W-L records and ERA are not good indicators)
Loved this article.
I really love the way you closed out the article.
Hunter Harvey and Dylan Bundy are still in the Orioles system, right? Not totally "devoid of legitimate prospect arms".
Ugh, so sad.
Jeter's fairwell tour didn't make the cut?
Um, I don't get it.
Absolutely loved the Gardenhire one for the same reason.
Tampa has a more recent penant. KC has a WS. The Pirates have 5 WS. All of them probably have better minor league systems right now than the Brewers with potentially brighter futures going forward. But all of that is really beside the point. How those teams have fared has zero to do with the Brewers and current state of that franchise. And while the attendance number you mentioned is impressive, I can't say I would want to be a Brewers fan right now. They've basically accomplished nothing recently and look like they could be the 4th best team in their own division going forward.
0 WS titles. 0 pennants in over 30 years. Bottom basement minor league system. Top player suspended for PEDs. Doesn't add up to totally inept, but it's not exactly pretty either.
Fun read. Thanks for the work you put into it, if we can call it work. Judging by the way you wrote this, you might have been having too much fun to call it "work".
At the VERY least, it's worth knowing more.
"Rey Ordonez without the fielding chops". Um... what kind of comp is that?
The answer is always sideburns.
I know that a lot of people really enjoy other people's stupidity and will get a kick out of this. So, for those people, this is probably a great article. I just got more and more depressed reading this because there are so many people out there who really just don't get it.
Articles like this one really separate this site. Excellent work.
"The league just gritted its teeth and waited until the monster moved on and left their town alone." - That's a great line.
This is a really fun article. I'd love to see more content just like it.
"I’ve been blowing Martinez up all winter" - I can't be the only person who read that wrong first time through.
Cool roundup. I hadn't heard that Price to Cleveland asking price rumor.
or, it used to be hilarious before the article was edited
#1 is hilarious
Compare the location of the pitch to A. Gonzalez as calculated by the broadcast to the one supplied by Brooks. That's the same pitch?
I think the Pirates manager that got them back into the playoffs, whoever that ended up being, was bound to end up MOY for the NL that season.
Mickey Tettleton really makes this list? I dunno.
"John Farrell Face, Or: Can’t Sit Down, Bobby Valentine Used to Sit Down, So Can’t Sit Down"
Damn near spit soda all over my laptop. Well played, sir. Well played.
It's really fun to hear from the players like this.
"Nolin will likely get at least two starts to prove that he's ready for a permanent stay in the majors..." against Baltimore and Atlanta. Good luck.
Wow. Great article. Very informative.
Billy Hamilton looks slow in that picture. He's hardly moving at all.
Hedges as a top 20 prospect... He's really THAT good behind the plate?