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Ok, well I'm technically a nobody and I believe his age...so yeah.
If he doesn't work out as a pitcher, could he make it to the majors as a 3B?
On some Pirates blogs this has been discussed the last two years. When I've asked commenters why they think he's not 22 a large percentage of them just say he doesn't look 22. As though 22 looks the same for everyone. If nobody believes his age, I'd like to know who they are and why they think that. If it's just "he doesn't look his age", then I'm not gonna take them too seriously.
As for his ex-wife, she was a professional con woman. He might not have even known her real age. And if he did, he might not have cared.
"Tabata makes the list despite the fact that nobody believes his age."
Who? And what proof do they have? I'm sorry, but as a Pirates fan, I've heard stuff like that a lot this season. And don't tell me "he just doesn't look that young". Who are the people that say they don't believe his age.
Yeah. I think he has the talent to have a big break out year. I think it would be foolish for the Pirates to not consider him for a starting spot next year.
Signing Jason Kendall long term made sense when the Pirates did it. Check out Kendall's first five seasons in the Majors and then go look at Joe Mauer's first five seasons. The Pirates made the only logical choice when they signed him to that long term contract. With any luck, Joe Mauer's career won't end up just like Kendall's.
Oops, I meant Craig Hansen, my bad.
We'll see what AA pitcher Bryan Morris does, but so far half of that trade has been a bust (Brandon Moss and Curtis Hansen). Andy LaRoche still has time to turn it on offensively, like he did last September, but with Pedro Alvarez and Neil Walker waiting in the wings, he's starting to run out of time. If Bryan Morris becomes a solid starting pitcher, then the Pirates might just about break even in that trade.
I still can't believe Huntington didn't tender Matt Capps a contract. It was a very cheap move by the Pirates.
I just wonder if the Pirates are really getting any better at this point. Besides Alvarez it seems like the Pirates are still stuck on signability draft picks instead of premier talent like taking Tony Sanchez last year in the first round.
You must not now much about the Pirates because Bryan Morris is doing a fantastic job in A+ Bradenton, a pitcher they picked up in the Jason Bay trade. Also, they have Jose Tabata in AAA who they got in the Xavier Nady deal. Alvarez and Sanchez are the most visable prospects right now, but there's a few guys in the low minors that the Pirates got in trades who might end up becoming decent major leaguers.
Wow, the Pirates are just #21? That's terrible. Maybe Neal Huntington isn't fixing anything in PIttsburgh...
Or people blaming Neal Huntington for the Pirates having two 90+ loss seasons. Like it's his fault he inherited the worst run team in baseball with an empty minor league system with one good player (McCutchen) and a bad major league team.
Payroll Efficiency is a terrible way to rate General Managers. The Pirates are terrible, have been since 1993. Sure the first three years of the decade were awesome and 97 and 99 they did better than they should have. But the rest of that decade was a disaster. Furthermore, look at their draft picks from 1990-1999. If BP did an article on teams effectiveness on draft day (if that article exists, can you link to it?), the Pirates of the 90's would probably come in dead last. And besides the 00 and 01 drafts, the Pirates pretty much continued draft day irrelevancy until 2008 when they took Pedro Alvarez with the 2nd overall pick.
I remember a few days before the 2007 draft, I wrote in the comment section in some blog that the Pirates should go get Heyward if they're too cheap to take Wieters. They took college pitcher Danny Moskos and signed him for more than what the Braves gave Heyward. Moskos basically spun his wheels in AA this past season and at this point might never make it to the majors. Makes me mad thinking the Pirates passed up two big talents in Wieters and Heyward in one draft to get a career minor league relief pitcher...
Question: Did you hear that in the Barrens chat in World of Warcraft?
Pirates recovering from self abuse. That's probably the best one sentence summary of the Pirates during the Bonifay/Littlefield years.
I've always wondered if the people who decided the MVP winners had lost their minds in 1960. Bobby Richardson wasn't even with the Pirates.
I wonder if Jon Stewart ever says that all those books that he gets prior to interviews on the Daily Show are freebies? Clearly they are. And they are "freebies" because if he didn't get them and a chance to read them, then he wouldn't know what to ask questions about.
Yet this stupid disclosure thing is only for blogs and the internet which, IMO, is an attempt by the government to control the internet, which will be a bad thing for everyone who doesn't work for the government. They already control TV and radio, so that's probably why this disclosure thing isn't be enforced on them...
Personally, I'm just sick of hearing about how great Nyjer Morgan is. Yeah, he's a nice player to have around, if you like that kind of fourth outfielder. But, I've heard it from my sister's Cardinal fan boyfriend. "How can they throw Nyjer away? Milledge is washed up and will never be the player Nyjer is." Maybe Baseball Prospecuts has their ages screwed up. Or maybe, just maybe a 24 year old with 27 home runs and almost 1200 plate appearances is a little more valuable than a speedy slap hitting 29 year old who's having a career season.
As a long time Pirates fan, I have to say that I really like what Huntington's done with the Pirates so far. He inherited a real mess when he took over in September 2007. Besides Jason Bay, the Pirates were a collection of below average to average ball players that hadn't lost fewer than 94 games since 2004. The farm system only had Andrew McCutchen and Brad Lincoln as the standouts. Look at the farm system now and it's like night and day. I'm not saying that they're going to start winning championships, but I think they're closer to a winning season than at anytime since 1992.
I'm drinking an extra beer tonight. I could hug Neal Huntington after those two trades. Except he has no body and we're both men...
I dunno. Maybe he should reschedule for August 1st.
Damn right, the Pirates salary dumped Ralph Kiner in the early 50's. They basically got nothing for the guy. Of course, by the time he left Pittsburgh, he wasn't nearly as good as he was in his prime.
Andrew McCutchen isn't a possible NL Rookie of the Year candidate?
He plays pretty well in RF defensively, certainly an upgrade from Xavier Nady. Playing through May 10th, he had a .174/.228/.244 start, since then he's been hitting .325/.371/.480. His home run total has been very disappointing, however with only two so far, especially since he hit 6 of them last year after coming over in the trade.
Huntington did a Q&A on the Pirates official website right after the trade. Some of the comments there are just priceless...
"Neal Huntington will never achieve that goal because he trades away all his young talented players for minor league trash."
"Instead, Huntington wants to give away Nyjer's ability to steal bases and high on base % and great clubhouse chemistry"
"16 years of losing baseball because of Neal Huntington"
The summary of all the comments there: The Pirates will never win because they traded away Nyjer Morgan and all the losing can be blamed on Neal Huntington. Nyjer Morgan, the 2009 World Series MVP, ya know if the Pirates kept him, of course. There was no way he was going to be on the next winning Pirates team. If he was a Red Sox, Dodger, Yankee or Brewer, he'd be a AAA player. Also, when he was sent to AAA early last season, I didn't hear a single complaint from anyone about that. Send him to AAA because he can't hit above the Mendoza line, nobody says a thing. Trade him for a player five years younger with more upside, it's the end of the World!
Forgive me if I'm wrong about the Manning/Leaf debate of 11 years ago, but it sounded at the time like there was no consensus on those two. There were plenty of people saying that Manning would be better and just as many saying that Leaf would be better. My "gut feeling" after watching both of them play on TV was that Leaf would be better, he seemed to be physically better than Manning. That taught me that I shouldn't listen to my gut feeling about things.
Wow. What an embarrassing day for Pirates fans. Major fail on the part of the Pirates....
I was shocked that Jim Tracy got another managers job after that debacle in Pittsburgh. I find it hard to believe that he'll still be there when the season's over, let alone in 2010...
Correction: Ted Simmons resigned after having a heart attack in June 1993. Insert obligatory joke about how the Pirates gave him a heart attack.
Interesting comments. I'm a big believer that the success of a franchise is determined a lot more by the intelligence of the front office people than the amount of money spent. Sure, money is great and it'll help a team that might have some holes to fill. But what good is the money gonna do if the team is run by a bunch of idiots?
If the NFL's system is so great, ask the fans in Oakland, Detroit, Cleveland and Houston if it's helping their teams any. Likewise, if MLB's system is so great ask fans in Pittsburgh, Kansas City, Baltimore and Washington if it's helping their teams any. If there's more "parity" in the NFL, why have two teams won 5 Super Bowls this decade? If there's less of it in baseball, why has only one team since 2000 won more than one World Series?
I guess what I'm saying is that neither system perfect nor is either system wrong.
Taking the PIrates a bit further, last year August was brutal for the Pirates, even if Bay, Nady and Marte hadn't been traded. There was no way they would have been only 6 or 7 games under .500 on September 1st. Look at the teams they played: Cubs 6 times, Brewers 6 times, Mets 5 times, Phillies 3 times and Diamondbacks 3 times. So they played 23 games against teams that averaged 90 wins in one month. Three of the teams being playoff teams and the other two being contenders. The only breaks they caught were a two game series against the Cardinals and a three game series against the Reds. Throwing back Bay and Nady and taking out all those pitchers they got, they would have faced those teams with Jimmy Barthmaier and Yoslan Herrera as starters.
Man, lighten up a little bit. There's plenty of celebrities who say things I don't like or agree with. That doesn't mean you can't enjoy their work. He didn't say anything bigoted, homophobic or racist. I just think that what AVS said was so minor that I doubt anyone who doesn't read BP will even notice it or care....
It'd be very hard for Christina not talk about how good I look. Most girls won't stop talking about it. However, lots of girls have called me boring, mostly because I wont' shut up about the Pirates or baseball in general...
I'm well aware of the weather being nice in San Diego. But what about the Padres? Do you not like anything they've done in the off season or anything about the team in general?
I have to say my first impression of seeing it on TV last night was that I hated it. I just didn't know what was bothering me about it. It just didn't feel right. I was expecting some change, but I didn't expect that much change. It felt like, as you said, it could have been anywhere and no where in particular. Even worse was this sense to me that seeing it on TV, there were no quirks, no little weird things they put in to ball parks these days. Any quirks that were there came from the old stadium. It felt like a big corporate stadium meant to show big corporate games. I get this feeling that the designers felt that nothing about this stadium would ruin the charm of a game more than having a personality.
Move to Pittsburgh, become Pirates fans. That\'ll make it really easy to get cheap season tickets where ever the heck you like, there are full season ticket plans that charge $4.93 per seat. It\'s amazing how low the ticket prices are when nobody likes or cares about your team, besides about 10,000 loyal fans. You\'ll have to put with some really bad baseball, but hey, great seats for less than 10% of the foul pole section there.
As much as I don\'t like the Yankees, this treatment is just terrible. Why didn\'t they make the new Yankee Stadium bigger? Put even more butts in the seats? I figure since they\'re selling so well these days that they\'d expand to 60,000 or 65,000. Instead they shrunk the ballpark and now are charging the difference in lost attendance. Oh well, that\'s Major League Baseball for ya.
BJ Upton was the 2nd pick in the 2002 draft, not the 2000 draft.
The Pirates are bad at everything. Jack Wilson plays decent SS, but he won\'t be around forever and they need to find a replacement at SS and a replacement for Sanchez at 2B. Perhaps Pedro could be moved to 1B if Walker or Andy LaRoche works out at 3B. I\'m sick of the people ready to throw out Andy LaRoche even though he doesn\'t even have 200 AB\'s with the Pirates, I seem to remember everyone saying Tike Redman and Chris Duffy were great after the same amount of time with the Pirates. The outfield, despite the absence of Bay and Nady is deep. Not only do we got McLouth and Moss at the major league level; but we have McCutchen and Tabata in the high minors and there\'s Grossman and Freeman in the low minors. Huntington has set up the outfield so that if McLouth leaves or is traded, there\'s no reason for Pirates fans to panic. Pitching is probably the biggest question mark long term. Tanner Scheppers was a disappointment, the only reason he wasn\'t signed was because of the injury. But having two picks in 2nd round of next year\'s draft might be a good opportunity to sign two pitchers and use the first round pick to get another hitter. Huntington has a lot of work to do and it will be his job not to make crazy free agent signings like Jeromy Burntiz and Sean Casey and Joe Randa. If 2009-2011 are losers for the Pirates, I won\'t care as long as Huntington continues to do things the right way (as he has so far for the most part) and builds up a major league franchise that is going to be competitive long term. Of course he could just be another Cam Bonifay or Dave Littlefield....