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One thing they could definitely do is call the damn strike zone consistently. Another thing <a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/author/joe_sheehan">Joe Sheehan</a> pointed out in his newsletter last year i believe is that a lot of players who we used to project as pretty good hitting prospects are floundering in the majors because MLB umps have a ridiculously huge strike zone compared to what they learned in the minors. You want to let singles hitters back into the game? Make the slider monster relievers actually throw real strikes.
Yeah, I agree with the above. The ballot for the IBA is annoying as all get out.
I think the first response to expanded rosters like that would be even more anonymous one inning relievers. The ever expanding pitching staff would just gobble up those extra roster spots.
That's really good to know. I haven't seen him play much because screw you MLB.TV, but I'm excited about the numbers I see.
<a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/author/joe_sheehan">Joe Sheehan</a> wrote in his newsletter recently that the Reds have a really bad combination of roster, market/budget and division. Even if this list of prospects pans out better than expected, is that going to be enough to compete with the Cards dynasty, a righted ship in Pittsburgh and a terrifying Cubs team? Seems like we could build a pretty darn good team and come in 4th place for the next 5 years.
Have the Cardinals been investigated for cloning these quality major league hitters? And if there were, is there actually a rule against cloning?
I'm also surprised at the lack of support for Carlos Delgado.
Good, now I can agree, weird move. As if Jocketty learned nothing from chasing after the tattered remnants of Ryan Ludwick's career.
Ummmmm... Isn't there a team missing from this TA? The Queen City team perhaps?
Joey Votto heads to the DL...return unknown... ;(
Seriously, you don't get to accuse people of attacking a straw man if they come upon you halfway through the second verse of "If I only had a Brain".
Remember folks, only the experience of the job creators counts as "real world experience". Those 50 plus employees evidently perform their labor on some lower level of the space time continuum that doesnt count as reality. Whether their wages are sufficient to live on is a squishy, emotional subjective number, not a hard strong manly logical number like a robust cost/benefit analysis.
Did I imagine Tony Cingriani's outstanding rookie season? Everybody else seems to have completely missed it. Not saying he's ROY with such an excellent class, but he should be in there around Evan Gattis and Jedd Gyorko at least.
Dissapointed to see no sign of Tony Cingriani in the NL ROY list. Not expecting him to win anything in a year with a guy like Fernandez. But he did strike out more guys per 9 ;)
Great article Mr. Kapler. I think we can go a little beyond what you imply here
"The men who have tested positive for PEDs include Ryan Franklin (skinny), Bartolo Colon (not skinny), Melky Cabrera (not muscular), Neifi Perez (skinny) etc. Do bodybuilders use steroids? Of course. Like the American population, users come in all shapes and sizes. Men in major league baseball who don’t use also vary greatly in body type."
They also appear to vary in sports drug effectiveness. From what I can see of the testing record, the players who have tested positive range from All-Stars to fringe average minor leaguers. I don't think nearly enough emphasis is placed on the actual "performance enhancing" parts of this debate. Grouping players into "dirty" and "clean" piles isn't helping at all.
All I'm saying is Neifi Perez should look around for the receipt on those steroids... ;)
No appeals of the Biogenisis suspensions? Holy crap that's derelict of the MLBPA. Its practically open season now on any player the owners want to castigate.
With the Johnny Cueto injury mess, are the Reds in the mix for Nolasco?
I like the Frank Robinson solution, but it runs into another problem and that is that the umpires are hardly the neutral observers that would be necessary to make such a scheme work. Too many umps are adversarial showmen who see the players as little better than children to be controlled. Watch their body language whenever they warn a pitcher or bench. Until we approve the professionalism of the umpire core (Joe Sheehan wrote a great newsletter about it recently) we can't depend on them being the ones to prevent escalation.
I had great seats at the GAP last night and I will testify that Sudden Sam Lecure did not have a bad night. He was dealing for the first two batters, then suddenly he couldn't buy a strike with cash money. And he wasn't wild, he was getting squeezed something awful.
First you have to convince Dusty to bat a GOOD hitter in the #2 hole.
You will never convince Doc of that Colin. He's heavily invested (and substantially rewarded) in his position as an old school nincompoop.
So do you think Rocco is in the process of taking the starting job away from the injured Ryan Hanigan?
The improvement in walk rate has been a facet of the entire Reds staff, which makes me wonder if it's evidence of good coaching from Bryan Price. Homer Bailey has also seen his K/bb improve dramatically that last two seasons. And Bronson Arroyo appears to be on the Brad Radke career path at this point, he doesn't walk anybody anymore.
My Dad went to Xavier. Go Muskies!
Considering Grandal's chemical indiscretions I'm happy with the outcome. (full disclosure: I'm far from a hawk on sports drugs, but I think its pretty stupid to flout the testing regimen.)
It's a matter of scale. When Juan Pierre was Hamilton's age he stole 38 bases in Portland. When Scott Podsednik was that age he stole 20 bases in the minors. Neither of those guys is a good comp for Billy. The best comp I've seen is the man whose record was broken, Vince Coleman. That's his downside imho. Now our understanding of the game has advanced to the point that Coleman is considered an overrated player. But if that's his floor then he's still a fine prospect. Youtube the kid... he is faster than you think, faster than anyone since Willie Wilson.
Ryan Hanigan isn't even a free agent until 2015. He has a career .370 obp and everybody loves him as a catcher and teammate. Basically Rocco needs to hit a ton when he gets his chance or hope that Hanner's gets hurt.
Dammit! That's the last day of our vacation! I'll be in Idaho.
I was remarking to Joe Sheehan on twitter that we Reds fans are likely to be on the wrong side of next years MVP award. Our Pal Joey is gonna put up monster RBI numbers with men on base infront of him. But Harper could easily be MVP just like Trout should have been.
That's certainly cromulent. A team at the bottom of the first round isn't losing all that much.
Taking his suspension out of the equation, was there anyone ranking Yasmani Grandal ahead of Devan Mesaroco?
If Christina had written this exact (wonderful) piece for her ESPN gig we would already have had a few mouth breathers calling her an idiot. Seriously, we spoil these writers here at BP by being decent human beings.
Ryan Freel was the real deal, the kind of player everyone thought David Eckstein was. Not since Chris Sabo was there a player that belonged in Red as much as Ryan Freel.
That is really nice.
Here's what I wonder. Say this deal breaks just right and the Angels win 102 games. That just gets them in the playoffs, where they get to square off witth lesser teams iin incredibly unpredictable 5 and 7 game series.
The Giants have won 2 titles in the last 3 years with a lineup that Sabean seems to recruit from the island of misfit toys each year. It is harder than ever to buy a championship, because we have so devalued regular season wins.
+1 for being right, which is more important than your perception of good taste.
Freel had his moments, but he really didn't play any position well, and his reckless play in center almost killed him. That three year run was nice though.
The Reds have been faking the leadoff spot since Bip Roberts, The upgrade here is enormous. Putting runners in front of the Votto/Ludwick/Bruce trio will have a bigger effect on the Reds offense than any other upgrade I've seen this winter. This is exactly what a GM saddled with Dusty Baker as manager has to do, cover up his weaknesses by taking bad choices away from him.
Zack Cozart will benefit a great deal from hitting 8th. For one thing he'll have Ryan Hanigan on base in front of him a lot. ;)
"We walk in the dark places no others will enter.
We stand on the bridge, and no one may pass.
We live for the One, we die for the One."
I don't know about anybody else, but I hate the Cardinals because they have won 2 world series in the last decade by essentially backing into the playoffs and getting hot for 3 weeks. Similar to the reason I hate the NY Football Giants.
And they have the most obnoxious fans in baseball.
Yeah, just about everybody in the QC has a touch of sniffles right now. Something in the air when the fall weather sets in.
BTW, I am scared senseless right now. If the Reds lose this and the @#$%ing Cardinals advance I am going to freaking plotz.
When has Acta had anything close to "better players"?
Exactly. That's confirmation bias showing its ugly head. It's the same with team chemistry.
Meh, I watched every Cincinnati game this year (on tv) and if you didn't know his reputation I think you would assume that Dusty Baker had a 'calm, inward demeanor. You rarely see him shout at umpires or yell at his players, but they would run through fire for him. I don't think you can tell how good a motivator a manager is from the dugout.
When the PA announcer at GABP introduces the team, this is what he says: "And now here are YOUR Cincinnati Reds!" It is MY team, OUR team. I say WE because I am actively encouraged to think that way by the owners and operators of the Cincinnati Reds Baseball Club. Anyone who takes issue with that construction can freaking bite me, sanctimonious blowhards.
Was Fielder thrown out of that game? Because if he had barreled into second base and tried to knock the ball put of Derek Jeters hand there would be do question.
One of the things Dusty has been really conscientious about this season is keeping his guys fresh. I expect to see "Deep Goes" Frazier playing all 4 corners on a pretty regular basis (or playing left while Ludwick gives Bruce the night off). Considering that Frazier himself could probably use a night off, I think he'll be fine. Besides, he's a much more useful bench player than either of the players (Rolen and Ludwick) he would be replacing, that can have some value as a super sub in the playoffs.
Reds majority owner Bob Castellini is a big fan of Dusty, I'm pretty sure that this season will get him a contract extension unless we get swept out of the playoffs again.
I plan to be in Cooperstown Sunday. If you can make a HoF induction for one of your favorite players do it! I was there for Tony Perez and the entire day was awesome.
I did not know about the trade to the dodgers, that would have been really weird. Though it would have saved us the trouble of watching the Zombie Barry Larkin shamble around for the last few years of his career.
Zack Cozart's bat sucks.
But so does his lovely glove.
Like unto a vacuum.
Oddly, he is showing impressive (perhaps unwarranted) patience with Cozart and Stubbs right now.
Actually the damage was done by Boone/Narron. I'm no huge Dusty fan, and yes he was happy to replace EdE with Rolen. But he would never treat one of his players with the kind of dismissive disrespect that Narron did.
Mostly emotional reaction from watching his career begin in Cincinnati. It was a frustrating time to be a Reds fan. I think Bob Boone and Jerry Narron really mishandled Eddie, jerking him around the lineup, inexplicable benchings, treating him like a rookie well into his career.
As for Rolen, I tend to think the Reds got realllllly lucky with that trade. Pretty much one season of good health, the last hurrah of a great player. But at this point I think that the fork in his back is really affecting his swing...;)
Glad to see the Lil Dog get paid. I really think the Reds screwed up his development.
Actually that was meant to go at the end of the thread. Clicked the wrong reply box. And yes its sarcasm, but with a point.
I am reticent to give too much ground back to the Joe Morgan's of the world. I know Kevin Goldstein hates it when we talk about the "war" between stats and scouts and I understand his reasons. I get what Russell is trying to get across in this piece. But seriously, as far as I'm concerned Joe Morgan is the one who needs to apologize for treating an entire class of baseball fans and analysts like shit. From his position as the color commentator on the premier baseball broadcast at the time, he lent his weight to the people who get their jollies by pointing and laughing at the nerdy kids in class. Fuck that.
I'll assume, now armed with his newfound knowledge, Russel will cease dwelling in his mothers basement and go out and watch am actual baseball game instead of playing with his slide rule and re-reading Moneyball, that book that Billy Beane wrote to kill baseball.
"If you play the game, you see things that those who didn't play the game don't see. That is a fact."
Granted... the problem is that playing the game can also hide things. Things that are obvious to the sabermetrician, who is able to take a long view and gather a lot of data, are often hidden from the player, who is most interested in the day to day grind of the game.
The great irony of Joe Morgan was that he played the game incredibly intelligently. He was almost the perfect sabermetric player. And then he spent his entire broadcasting career defaming the people who most appreciated his accomplishments. Trust me, wade into the comments on a mainstream site like ESPN. I've actually heard idiots argue that Joe shouldn't be in the HoF because... "look at his RBI's" and "he didn't even hit .300 for his career." Those are the people who Joe Morgan enabled with his senseless animosity towards sabermetrics. Which is a damn shame.
Well in that third play I think he went into motion before the snap... or he really is that freaking fast.
Absolutely right. I've been reading Keith Law's work at ESPN for years and the level of discourse there is no better than the knuckle draggers at SI. Hopefully Jay will be able to overcome them with the immense power of his mustache.
It's like complaining that your football team scores too many touchdowns.
Which Elder God do we need to sacrifice a utility infielder to to pass the Cardinals on this list?
Signed, Nervous Reds Fan.
I love Scott Rolen, always have. But I don't think any time on the DL is going to enable a complete recovery from that fork sticking out of his back.
:) I know...
What the heck, The Cardinals get to win 2 World Series whilst barely playing .500 ball but the Reds can't even win an imaginary title down the road someday. But the Pirates can? Bleah...
Three years from now I could wishcast Aroldis Chapman into that guy... ;)
Watching Zack Cozart play every day, as well as Brandon Phillips locked up for the forseeable future, I see no reason to keep this guy at ss. He won't play infield for the Reds barring severe misfortune. Teach him to play cf!
"The Soul of Baseball" and "The Machine" by Joe Posnanski. The former made me cry, the latter made me cheer.
In episode 4 of "Reds" an alien presence mysteriously descends on Homer "The Frustrator" Bailey. At first the team is alarmed, however after two outings they decide to accept the new situation because the alien appears to be able to throw his splitter for strikes.
The Big Kid wasn't a rah rah type when he was here, but I never heard anything like that about him.
I'm pretty sure the national writers and commentators get some kind of style guide from the teams that details what the team would like their park to be called. And the media would be putting their access at risk to ignore the teams wishes. On a personal level I never went to a game at "Cinergy Field", it was always "Riverfront Stadium" to me.
It will be really weird if somebody buys Great American Insurance, because it would sound odd to go to Conglomco Park.
So is leaking grand jury testimony... who went to jail for that again?
Mike Costanzo did get an RBI with his first ML plate appearance yesterday. I'm glad a grinder like that can get a cup of coffee every once in awhile, but I worry that he is exactly the kind of guy Cincinnatians fall unreasonably in love with. We like our Scrubs!
I am seriously happy to see Adam Dunn back on track. Whatever was wrong with him last year, he looks like his old self again. He should walk away with comeback player of the year.
"Three of them came on his own throwing error in a game against the Reds on April 25th:"
I was at that game (right behind that Duke Energy sign in RF). I felt real bad for Hensley. He fielded that ball clean, but it had bean a chilly drizzle all night. The ball just slipped out of his hand.
Hehe, I get the comparison, but it falls apart based on the immensity of Hamiltons achievements. Corey Patterson stole 114 bases in 9 minor league seasons. Billy Hamilton did that in 2.
Where do you see Billy Hamilton playing in the bigs KG? Brandon Phillips is locked in at second, and Zack Cozart looks like a keeper at short (My OOTP12 game for the ipad has Cozart in the ASG next year. I know these aren't strat cards however...)
Could he play 3rd? Or if his destination is CF, are they working him out there?
But where are we going to play the guy? We're locked into the Brandon Phillips experience for the next 6 years, and it certainly looks like Zach Cozart is gonna be a very good player at short. Does he have the arm for 3rd? Can he play CF? Will his bat carry left?
I miss the NL West rivalry with the hated Dodgers. I'm a huge Reds fan, but I'll have no problem if you run down Marge Schott, or the awful bait and switch behind getting the GAP crammed up against the river. Or how holier than thou they were in the 70's.
I'll admit I was mostly reacting to the 2011-12 average shown on the chart. That being said, I think there's a good test case for the hypothesis that winning = attendance, because this Reds team is geared to win (despite current struggles) and I personally wonder if even a winning team will get people back to the park. I know that with 3 lil kids I'm not going as often as I would because of the factors I outlined.
Ok, maybe I'm exaggerating a little, It's a half mile. But I still think the location sucks. The Banks project finally coming on line may help a little, but I still think the Broadway Commons site would have been a much better location. And I think that location problem is why we lag behind the Pirates who's history of losing seasons will soon be old enough to buy beer!
Also, could we stop with the "first world problems" diss? FFS not getting insurance for your cancer treatments is a "first world problem" (third world people just die from cancer). It just hipster irony, you can drop into just about any discussion anywhere about just about anything and imply that the discussion is meaningless because gee, "first world problems"
The Reds attendance is telling. We have a much more recent history of success the the Pirates, yet we lag behind? Why? I'll tell you why, it is INCREDIBLY INCONVENIENT to go to a Reds game. GABP stands up against the river, surrounded by overpriced parking that is in and of itself hard to find. Wanna park downtown and walk to the game? Or head to the Game after dinner downtown? Be prepared to walk about a mile from Fountain Square, across 8 lanes of traffic. And when you get there? Be prepared to be funneled into the front gate along with 10,000 of your close friends. Oh, and when the last pitch reaches its final destination? Those 24,000 folks all pour out onto those 8 lanes of traffic. I'm amazed no one has been killed yet.
I never really believed in this version of the Red Sox being contenders. Especially in the AL East. They just have too many old and injury prone players. They essentially brought back the same team on the field that limped into september last year and crossed their fingers that things would be better this time.
Having seen most of Chapmans appearances this year, I concur with the scout, he's ready to start. He's really slowed things down this year and looks much more incontrol of his stuff. It's gotta be nice to ease back a bit and still throw 98 mph.
His video game is kind of "meh" as well.
Also re. "Who knew Cincinnati had this kind of money to spend?" It is my understanding that a lot of the Votto money is banked revenue sharing funds and they are also anticipating more money from a new TV contract with Fox Sportsnet Ohio. But even after those considerations, Castellini is a pretty rich dude, maybe he thinks spending some crazy money now is worth the thrill of riding a convertable in a big parade downtown with an adoring city showering his team with love. Trust me, if the Reds win one any time soon we are gonna seriously paint the QC RED.
Early April games in Cincinnati are always slow attendance wise. It's still a family oriented fanbase and weeknight games during the school year are a harder sell. Attendance will pick up in the Summer. That being said, I'm still disappointed with the numbers. Winning should help that. Chapman in the rotation should help THAT.
I think the last three years of BP's contract are simply the price we have to pay for the first three years. He's certainly going to be worth the front half.
Are any BP'ers gonna be at the HOF induction this year? I'm driving up with a friend to see Barry Larkin go in. Maybe a big BP reader meetup on the big grass field?
Madsen's a 3 win player? News to me...
I think the Big Kid is comeback player of the year. I've been a fan of Adam's his whole career and I'm rooting for him to bounce back. Now if we could only figure out what happened to Austin Kearns . then many mysteries would be solved...
Good Luck Steven!
He's not dying! ;)
We love Our Pal Joey here in the QC, although there is always the chance that some scrappy scrub like Ryan Freel will steal the hearts of my less enlightened brethren. I think you guys are underestimating the improved performance we are likely to get at SS with a full year (fingers crossed) of Zack Cozart and ROY candidate Devin Mesaroco in the fold. And the bullpen with Marshall and Madsen should be excellent.
Scott Rolen might be a good cautionary tale for Cardinals fans expecting Lance Berkman to repeat his surprise performance of 2011.
Davey Concepcion to Barry Larkin was a pretty similar transition. I mean Davey wasn't exactly a legend, but he had a hall of very very good career. Yes I'm intentionally forgetting the Stillwell Interregnum.
I was extremely lucky, when I met the Girl, she was a baseball neophyte... her experience with the game was limited to the notoriety generated by Micheal Jordan's brief tenure with the Birmingham Barons. But Reds games turned out to be a great cheap date and she learned to enjoy the game almost (ok...not anywhere nearly as much as) I do. And that's despite the torture involved in watching singles dribble between the shambling remains of the Zombie Barry Larkin and the Todd Walker Memorial Statue at the beginning of the last decade.
Danny Valencia 3b WARP 0
Raul Ibanez LF Warp 0
Ben Revere CF WARP .1
Aaron Hill 2b WARP -1.5
Ichiro Suzuki RF WARP -.7
Adam Kennedy SS Warp .2
Aubry Huff 1b WARP .2
Yotrvit Torrealba C WARP .7
Minimum 400 PA in 2011, I tried to keep it as close to 0 as I could whilst still having names that were familiar. That team is an interesting mix actually. The guy that stands out is Revere, who I think has a career ahead of him.
I feel better about the Reds lf sinkhole now considering that things could evidently be much much worse. This definitely seems to be an area where the bloated bullpens are costing teams dearly. A platoon would be an excellent solution to some of these situations.
He formed the left side of the greatest keystone combo of all time and once challenged Hank Aaron's home run record before bowing out with class and dignity because it was indeed suppertime.
Snoopy for President.
"With Dusty's preference for established veteran talent, I bet that Hannigan will get at least 40-50% of the starts."
I think that may be an outdated appraisal of Dusty's managing style. Trust me, I watch every Reds game and there has been plenty to gripe about, but he has done a better than expected job at working the Reds young players into the lineup. Also, don't knock Hanners, he's been half of the best catching tandem in the league for the last two years. If he gets 30-40% of the starts I'll be happy.
People said the same thing about Ruth. In fact Ruth's power explosion was so unprecedented that people back then may have actually had a point.
Then again, this is not about your hurt fee fees...
I take away one lesson from the bonds/Clemens fiasco we are about to watch unfold... The answer is seven. Seven Cy Young Awards. Seven MVP's . Seven times a piece that these, the two best players of the postwar era, were considered the best at their craft that season. Considered by whom? The same sports writers who will spend the next few years making cowardly excuses as to why these two icons of the game may not pass into Cooperstown without a ticket because of a specific form of cheating that they had NO IDEA ABOUT all those years ago. And the reason we give the vote to this particular electorate? Supposedly because of the unique insight they have from their position covering the game!
Anyone eligible who does not vote for Clemens of Bonds should have their card taken away. Go cover some other sport.
Not to start a Jim Rice level discussion on the issue, but doesn't Lee Smith open the door for John Franco and other such types? I'm not complaining btw, I'm a big hall guy and think Franco would be a worthy addition.
I hope this ends the "we should trade Votto" bellyaching from a lot of commentators at various Reds Blogs. I expected James Sheilds myself.
Could I go back in time and give Junior some steroids? Maybe then he wouldn't have spent half his time in cincy on the dl.
I have a theory on that. The very inefficiency that bugs us also saves these guys arms arms a lot of wear and tear. So they are able to perform a lot more consistently than relievers that are called on more often. And as BP has highlighted in the past, saving your closer for the "save" often calls on them to face the bottom of the order, allowing them to pad their stats and appear more competent than a reliever that was being used optimally against the leagues best hitters in clutch situations (as I assume we BP'ers, would like to see.) So this usage pattern allows lesser pitchers to acquire a veneer of "closer mentality". Combine that with managers that are afraid to be risk takers and you practically grow the modern closer by natural selection. Give that guy a couple of seasons soaking saves for a bad team (Heath Bell?) and suddenly he's a brand name product, "Proven Closer"
The players have to see how this works, which is why they hate not having "established roles" or whatever.
I hope they would point out that those Phiten necklaces are essentially useless magic charms usually sold to gullible idiots and that Major League baseball should be fighting this kind of pseudoscientific crap just as aggressively as they fight tobacco use.
If we can't have Reyes, maybe the Reds can swing a deal for Hanley? Brandon Phillips would become the best teammate the guy ever had, he'd be the best bat at ss we've had since the zombie barry larkin years? Cmon, a guy can dream...
This period right after the world series and before the winter meetings is always a pretty dry time at BP. Between the lack of signings and every hand on deck to get the annual in my hands ASAP in February, I forgive some quiet time at the website.
Drat... scratch another destination off the "Free Ryan Hanigan" list...
Joe has a lovely email newsletter at a bargain price.
There's no point in the Reds trading for Hamels unless they can sign him. I'd rather they spend that Lucre on James Shields.
I agree, I want to read a whole book about this guy now...
Great American Ballpark started offering fresh fruit at games this year.
Thanks Larry, this was all kinds of awesome. This reminded me of another Star Trek/Baseball scene from one of the Novels "The Pandora Principle" Which details the early life of Spock's Protege Saavik (Played by Kirsty Alley in Wrath of Khan and then Robin Curtis in The Search for Spock).
During her time at Starfleet Academy, Saavik joins a baseball team as a pitcher. Her Vulcan/Romulan physique and preternatual concentration make her literally unhittable. Lie 27 up adn 27 down with 27 k's.
Would perhaps moving out of CF help Sizemore stay healthy? If thats the case, Cincinnati has a gaping hole in LF.
If you'll allow me to indulge in a little concern trolling... Dear Cardinals GM... please follow Leatherpant's advice and waste a bunch of money on a closer...
It is fun to pick on Leatherpants, isn't it.
Adam Dunn was my favorite Red until the coming of "Our Pal" Joey Votto. The K's never bothered me at all.
My best friend has decided that watching the NBA playoffs is his preferred way to consume the product. There are enough games to feel like a whole season almost, he never has to see players mail one in, and he never has to watch the Clippers, at least not for long. I don't think this is ideal btw.
That's just it, those people should know better! They should know that winning 100 games is a massive accomplishment on it's own
I'd like to think we've made a little progress in this area in the decade since it was written, I mean some crank who writes a TV show did get Joe Morgan fired eventually (I kid I kid...)
But I really think MLB needs to do more to recognize the regular season records. Maybe a postseason award like the MVP or Cy Young that goes to the team with the best record. Hockey used to do something like that didn't they? Our laser focus on October (and now November) baseball has led to some great teams being forgotten, especially in the wild card era. Like the 2001 Mariners, who own the best 162 game record with 116 victories but I bet you could win some bar bets with folks who think that record belongs to the 98 Yankees because they won the last game of the season.
I never thought I would see a slower player than Sean Casey, but Miguel Cabrera looked like he was carrying 2 pianos down the third base line in the 8th.
I'm just happy to see Joey Votto recognized for a very good but unheralded season as the consistently # 3 MVP candidate in the NL.
I'll just go ahead and go full throttle Sheehan here... adding the extra playoff team only makes it great to be the division winner of a BAD division. With the coin flip game in place the winner of the execrable al central gets in whilst the 2nd place team in the east, maybe the second best team in baseball many years, has to face off with a second wild card team that they probably beat by a significant margin in the regular season.
Plus, is anyone considering how we tiebreak 2 wildcard teams per league. When you start scraping up mediocrities from the 80-90 win teams to hand out a lottery ticket for a chance at calling yourself "World Champs" then you are increasing the chances a lot of a 3 or 4 way tie for one of those spots... what do we do then? Arcane NFL style tiebreakers?
Zach Cozart is a fine young fellow. He also shredded his knee as if he were a halfback on astroturf. Crossing my fingers that he will be ok for next year.
Is Billy Hamilton going to stay at short in the bigs? I seem to remember talk of his glove needing a move to the keystone. If he can stick at short, then we need him to get his butt up here ASAP, because I believe the Reds plan at SS next year is to just stick a really lifelike cutout of Barry Larkin out there.
I haven't seen him, but I thought Billy was slated for 2b. If he can play ss, we can have a spot for him on the river as soon as he's ready.
For the Redlegs File, Eric Milton. Signed to a ridiculous 3 year contract, Milty never had an era under 5 for the Reds. In 2005 he went 8-15 with a 6.47 ERA, and 40 hr's. Thing is, we signed him after he gave up 43 bombs for the Phillies the year before. I forget who was the GM for that fiasco, Dan O'brien?
That's an interesting comparison, especially since Eddie Murray was one of my favorite players. Just glancing at some era normalized stats like ops+, Thome actually looks a lot better than Murray. Murray took a couple of years to go in, a lot will depend of what things look like 5 years from now. (or six, do we know if Thome is done this year?)
Everything about You've said about Thome I apply to Bagwell and Sosa as well.
"Kennesaw Mountain Landis" by Jonathan Coulton is a wonderfully outlandish tune that is only about baseball in the sense that it pretends to be about baseball, when it is in fact about adult contemporary songwriter Joe Jackson... Or was it Elvis Costello...
I'm fairly certain mr Hernandez would have been fine with the latter
Managers, not angers... ;?
Rasmus reminds me a little of a young Reggie Sanders, another player who clashed with hard headed ,angers in his early years. The scary thing is that he's probably twice the player upside wise than Reggie was. I'm glad to see him out of the division...
Maybe now teams will realize that winning, even just a little, puts butts in the seats and bucks in their pockets. Can you imagine what the pirates would be like if they had been in a position to play like his when the new ballpark opened?
It has something to with the power of his mustache. With great mustache comes great responsibility.
Over at ESPN's the Sweet Spot blog, there are a couple of commenters that insist, every time it comes up, that Joe Morgan was overrated. It just baffles me that anyone could follow baseball to any extent and hold that opinion.
I would not be surprised at all if some future version of the Veterans Committee manages to enshrine Davey Concepcion. It may be a borderline call, but I'll be there if it happens.
So replacement level at 3b is a lot lower this year, i hadn't noticed that. I still cringe when Rolen bats cleanup.
He's not as big a problem as the SS in Cincy, but Scott Rolen has been sucking a lot of wind so far this year as well. But what do I know, I look up on Tuesday and see him in the ASG?!?
I used to love Alvin Davis. He was the cleanup hitter for a couple of my really bad PtP teams back in the early 90's. He was the first guy I ever followed who taught me the importance of OBP
I owned Brian Downing and Gary Pettis on my Strat teams back in the day.
Is Johnny Cueto somehow invisible to people out there? I know his 1.93 era is small and his .937 whip is miniscule, but c'mon, he's an All Star isn't he? Also, the reigning gold glove at 2b would like to have a word as well...
Ok, I looked again... I still think the play was unwise, at first blush it looked like he took the dudes head off. But it was most likely within the rules
OK, I just watched the feed at MLB.com
Cousins is definitely in the wrong from what I saw, and he knew it immediately. It looks like a free safety unloading on a defenseless receiver. I'd have thrown him out of the game same as if he threw a punch.
To be clear. I hate the wild card for prtty much the same reasons.
One of the catchers (Grandal or Mesaroco), one of the big league ready arms (Leake or Maloney? Maybe even Volquez?) and two scratch off tickets would get it done, but only if we can extend him. I'm not too interested in half year rental for a lot of treasure for a Reds team looking to contend for the forseeable future.
If The Cardinals win the division by 2 games, this weekend series sweep of the Reds by the Indians will be pivotal. Which sucks. The worst part is that nobody whop matters seems to give a damn. Joe Sheehan in his newsletter this weekend essential threw up his hands in disgust about the situation.
Me too... Well, actually I still play D&D... ')
I want Reyes on the banks of the Ohio, some Combo of Grandal, Cozart, Fransisco, Bailey/Wood, and one of the spare parts (Hanigan or Janish) should get it done.
I wouldn't be surprised to see James Loney end up a star in Japan in a couple of years. He's just never gonna be what we want him to be here.
", which makes it all the more disconcerting that Volquez pitched his final couple of innings on Sunday night after apparently hyperextending his knee;"
I was watching that game and I was floored when Voltron came out to pitch the next inning. The sad thing is that he was cruising that game, he really looked like he'd turned a corner. And the pitch that Molina jerked wasn't bad pitch, Molina just ran into it.
I know he's not a regular, and it's not a replacement level killer situation, but Edgar Renteria is so done he has the whole silverware drawer stuck in him. He's nominally a backup infielder, but the only position he's willing to play evidently is ss, and he's statuesque.
One pleasant surprise on the Redlegs is Jonny Gomes league leading 12 walks. In fact the whole team feels more patient than last year. Has Jonny really refined his approach? Or have we just lucked into a run of second division hurlers?
I would think that it's the former. As a previous "offender" and a highly paid player, I would think that Manny would be one of the players most likely to be able to skirt the system if he so chose.
His HoF case is going to be very interesting. A lot will hinge on how the voters treat Sammy Sosa and Barry Bonds.
heck of a time getting that past the iPads autocorrect...
Listen, I hate the Yankees as much as any other Red blooded midwesterner, as it should be. But the the level of whiney douchebaggery in these comments is appalling. Grow the fuck up people. Just today there are articles on the Marlins, the Royals farm system, a bunch of fantasy stuff that has nothing to do with the Yankees or Red Sox. You people are imagining a bias that is simply not there.
That being said, I expect to see some stuff about the Reds hot start soon, or i'm gonna start thinking about joining the tinfoil hat crowd.
My gut says that Drew Stubbs breaks out and this year in a big way but Scott Rolen declines a little in the health area. I really hope Jocketty and Baker can lead this team to consolidate last years gains because a slip back to .500 ball would be disastrous to a fan-base that has been smacked around for a the last 15 years. Back to back winning seasons would go a long way towards filling up the awkwardly placed GABP.
Ryan Hanigan would like a chance to bat second and dispel that notion.
I think you missed the Reds best defensive assets altogether, in the up the middle combo of Brandon Phillips, Paul Janish, and Drew Stubbs. Assuming a year of health from Rolen this might be the best Reds defense since the '90s.
I love every version of the hitchhikers, including the recent movie. It was a perfectly cromulent version of the story with some original moments that I thought were perfectly in line with Adams vision.
Things could have been worse for the Reds in 2006, we could have ended up employing Timo Perez...
Thank You Come Again...
To quote the late Sparky, “I don’t want to embarrass any other catcher by comparing him to Johnny Bench.”
I agree, if Bench is reduced to that average it's a fair comparison, but the thought of Weiters ever peaking the way Bench did, that's crazy talk now.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of EdE. But he did get released twice last year. I guess you're right he didn't fail as a prospect, but he did fail as a major leaguer. One caveat, he did have Jerry Narron for a manager at a crucial time, and Jerry Narron may have ruined him.
Someone needs to make a movie out of Joe Posnanski's "The Soul of Baseball". I also think you could make a great movie about players in one of the short season leagues, just drafted players getting their feet wet.
I nominate the Little Dog, Edwin Encarnacion. Or Brandon Larson. Or Willie Greene... Jeesh, what did Chris Sabo do to curse the developement of Reds Third Basemen?
I just got to that quote about Hanigan in the annual. Thanks for writing it. Personally I think Ramon Hernandez will soon run out of fairy dust and realize he's old. I bet by the ASB Hanners is the #1 guy simply by outplaying the old dude.
Nobody's ever listened to the lone voice in the wilderness because he was too polite.
I hope PECOTA is wrong about the Reds, because a slide back to .500 baseball could be devastating to a fanbase that is just beginning to hope again. I think any regression of Mike Leake can be made up for by more innings from the good Homer Bailey.
I feel so sorry for Astro's fans. What a mess.
Frazier can stand around at ss can't he? Once Rentalria gets hurt, he can playthe role od Paul Janish's Bat.
Hand picked by Bud or not, I'm darn happy with Castellini here in the QC. Of course the owner of the Reds just has to avoid drooling on himself to outshine the owner of our putrid football team.
Now that's just a crazy amount of content! iPad app in the works perchance?
" if you are capable of roping a steer with your genitals, goody for you, but it doesn't mean that you should,"
One monitor cleaning bill winging its way to you sir.
I think Paul Janish deserves a shot get 500 PA and see what he delivers. Two years ago, in about half a season he swatted 21 doubles. His glove certainly holds up well, and with above average production thru most of the rest of the lineup I think the Reds can afford a glove first ss as long as he isn't a total loss with the bat.
I worry that Renteria is just the kinda sweet sweet veteran crack that Dusty will pencil into the lineup (at the top of course) way too often.
Meh, the dudes in his 19th season. Sometimes folks just get old. Or does that mean I have my head in the sand?
At the end of his 4 year deal, Dunn will still be younger than Lee is right now. And probably healthier.
I especially worry about further derailing Paul Janish's career. Maybe he's just a generic no hit glove, but we need to actually find that out and look for another long term solution. If Renteria starts 100 games, then we might as well give up on Janish.
Interesting notion, back when that 4 player trade happened you could make a case that all 4 of the players involved had a chance at the HoF. Was there anything that stood out at the time that said Alomar was the one?
"Though both shortstops would surrender their titles as the starter to lesser lights late in their careers"
This made me chuckle... First, the last couple of years of Barry Larkin (perhaps my favorite baseball player ever btw) were just brutal to watch. He was a shadow of his former self at ss (he had resisted a move to cf earlier in his career). The Reds pitching staff spent like 2 seasons with the Zombie Barry Larkin and the Todd Walker memorial statue as their double play combo. Felipe Lopez looked like Jose Reyes after that.
Concepcion was an even weirder situation. Larkin had the job full time by '88. Concepcion was himself a 19 year player. He wanted 1 more year as a Red so he could be a 20 year player with one team, which was a pretty cool round number. The Reds let him go ostensibly because they felt it silly to carry around an ancient backup ss. And then they promptly signed ex Cub Manny fricking Trillo to be their old backup ss, a man ONE year younger than Concepcion...
I've had nightmares that featured Jay Bruce in a Yankee's uniform. Now I can rest easy for a few years. Now to deal with the one with Joey Votto in an Angels Uni...
I for one am rooting for Edwin Encarnacion to get another shot. Jerry Narron really messed with this kids head a few years ago and I think he could blossom still with a good organization. Move him to 1st base or dh and lets him concentrate on hitting. He'd be a great low cost alternative to Carlos Pena.
Man it would be cool if the Reds could somehow make a play for Crawford. He's be worth overpaying a little because he would solve 2 problems, outfield defense and he would give Dusty Baker a real leadoff man. Cmon Castellini, all this costs is money!
Next year Phillies... we'll be back next year.
Agreed!, It would certainly add to our understanding of the era. Anectdotally, I seem to remember him spraying the ball more in Pittsburg. Once he got to telecom company park, he became a pull hitting machine. Buts thats just hazy memories.
Having watched almost every reds game on tv, I'll concur. Joey and Albert can fight over who was the leagues MVP, but Scott Rolen has been the Reds MVP this year.
I can't imagine the Reds not picking up Bronson Arroyo's option, but I would certainly miss him. He's been surprisingly effective over the life of this contract. And I know he's stated that he likes it here a lot, so a reasonable extension may be had. With Harang looking more and more cooked, I'd hate to turn over the staff to the kids just yet.
It should also be pointed out that said rule was only instated after Pete had accepted his "lifetime" ban. The Fay Vincent pushed the BBHoF to institute its rule. Joe Jackson wasn't voted in by the writers, who made a principled stand. I'm quite certain that Pete accepted his ban with the idea that he would be able to make things up behind the scenes ala Hornung. Then Giamatti died, Fay Vincent refused to talk to him, and the whole thing ground down into 20 years mindless feuding.
Also, Mr. Hertzel, as a longtime subscriber i'd like to apologize for the amount of self righteous bullshit being flung about in this thread. It seems the standards of BP's readers has slipped in recent years.
Peter Bergeron is probably the textbook case for this kind of hitter if I remember correctly. If he ends up on the aaa team of some sorry orginization like the old Expos, then he might end up on a prospect list and make a lot of out leading off for the Marlins or somesuch one year.
I actually asked Joe to say bad things about the Reds at the beginning of the year to try and break that curse. Thanx Joe!
I think Adam Dunn has at least one season in him still where he'll lock in for a whole year, beat the crap out of the ball, nail 50 hr's and actually hit for average for a change. If he does it for a team that wins that year, he wins an MVP and that goes a long way towards gettinghim into Cooperstown.
I'm proud to be an unapologetic Sheehanite!
Agree with the scouts quote about Johnny Cueto. When he pitches with maturity he is lights out. I used to think he was the Reds pitcher most likely to throw a no hitter. Then it seems that Travis Wood flirts with a no hitter once a week!
.314/22/60... as of today, I think Joey Votto has a shot at the Triple Crown this season, the only thing holding him back is Martin Prado's unsustainable BA and Dusty Bakers lack of base cloggers in front of him.
With Edinson Volquez comimg back, and Aroldis Chapman, not to mention Travis Wood in the wings, is it really a great investment for the reds to spend a lot of treasure on a rental starter? I'd rather see them make a move to shore up the bullpen and the bench (making Miguel Cairo go away would be a start). And I'd like to see them setting themselves up for long term improvements at ss and catcher as well. For the first time in awhile, I think our pitching is...OK?
Another Reds fan...
Two things, as much as I loathe Dusty's roster choices, it's not like there is anywhere to play a better leadoff hitter than Cabrera. All the positions are full of guys I can't bench. Although it would be an out of the box move to bat Gomes leadoff and tell him to go out and do his best Pete Rose impression.
Also, assuming the rest of the division fades into oblivion and the Reds fade just a bit behind the Pujols', what is our outlook in the wild card race?
My Dad was a radio newsman here in Cincinnati, he went by the name Doug Anthony on the radio because it scanned better than Doug Doench. I'm pretty sure there's an X-mas card from "George" Anderson in one of those boxes in Moms basement. One of Dad's favorite stories about news work was the lengths he went to be the first to interview Sparky the day Don Gullet signed with the Yankees.
There was practically a fan revolt when Sparky got fired. A lot of young boys in Cincinnati became immediate tigers fans that year.
As a Reds fan, and considering his debut, I already am prepared to hate Starin Castro for the foreseeable future. Especialy considering the Ron Santo sized hole that has existed at shortstop here in the Queen City since the Zombie Barry Larkin retired.
It's probably early, but the Reds appear to be aiming ti get on this list at shortstop. Since the blessed departure of the Zombie Barry Larkin, 3 GMs have lurched about for a solution. For petes sake we had Jerry Hairston start at ss for a good strect of 2009!
Sorry... needs more exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!!
Golly Gee Whiz!!! I'm darn sure glad yer here to point that out! Here I thought that this predictin baseball might be really hard to do and even the best at it are gonna be wrong a whole heck of a lot. But yer TINY sample size from the last decade has convinced me to never ever believe anything them pointy headed nerds at Baseball Prospectus ever write again!
Thank You sbnirish77! You've done America a service it will never forget!!!!!
Probably because that's all she wrote when it comes to Cards prospects.
I'd expect Our Pal Joey to win one first...
I must admit that when I clicked on this link I thought that this was a tasteless way to remember Mike Cuellar.
I am starting to believe that this part of an attempt by Apple to muscle Adobe out of that section of the programming market. As a photographer, I know they really want folks to abandon Adobe for Aperture (Not happening BTW... :P)
The Fangraphs app is a lot of fun as well.
I haven't had Liver in at least 30 years but that description hits all the right foodie notes. Erwin you say? Is this thge kind of place I can take 3 small children when I drive up to Chitown for spring break?
"Also, can someone get this guy an editor? I count more than 180 words about Transformers. Not. Relevant."
You had time to count his words about the transformers?
And then bitch about it to us?
All political references? Really? Jeez, I thought Steve was pretty even handed. It's a quite common device in lists like this. Should he take the music references out as well? They have nothing to do with baseball and I'm sure he may have offended someone with his ignorance of Mariah Carey's career.
If you can't take a Clinton Joke (or a Bush joke) then I shudder to think how you'll handle the Nixon era.
I got my "shipped" email from amazon yesterday, says it should e here on the 17th.
I have to step up and defend the sublime absurdity of early Moonlighting, back when Bruce Willis was funny.
"The Rangers were told they could not offer a signing bonus of more than $4 million, and Purke, who reportedly wanted at least $5 million, opted to play college ball at Texas Christian."
That's a criminal level of penny pinching! 1 million bux spread across the cost of running a MLB team is chicken feed! Oakland, Anaheim and Seattle fans owe MLB a round of applause for kneecapping their competitor for no reason whatsoever.
I had a classmate in photography school who had to go back for a second round under the laser (with a substantial refund) due to a mistake in is Lasik. Scared all of us shutterbugs straight.
On the flip side, once I develop cataracts like my dad and grandad, than I'm supposed to get the procedure done.
I second this proposal. Plus Damon is one of the few players that Dusty might leadoff with who would actually be qualified.
The Reds should hold Voltron back until it is safe for him to return to the rotation, like after Dusty Baker is fired...
One Billlllllllllllion Dollars....
"after publicly pressuring McGwire to confess, some of the biggest names in the BBWAA flat-out declared they wouldn't vote for him now that he'd done so."
Could I get a list of said hypocrites so that I might spit on them if I ever get the chance?
Seriously, at what point does the HoF Museum reconsider hitching their induction policies to these bozo's?
Here's hoping Austin Kearns gets another chance. Is there a comparable player who put things together as he entered his 30s ? Brian Downing maybe?
Sean Casey. Sean Casey always looked like he was running in one of those running dreams, wherein one is trying to run but feel like you're running in syrup. Except we were all in Sean's Dream.
History has shown that "Reality" has a significantly pro-MLBPA bias.
Congrats to Whitey Herzog. I for one had just assumed that he was already in the HoF!
Make me an offer on the A-Train, I'll add it to the
voodoo-mindcontol regimen I'm working on Walt "The Jock" Jocketty.
I don't see why slotting Johny Gomes to play LF has been dismissed. How expensive could he be?
Hey Joe, nice series.
I'd love to get your take on Ramon Hernandez' fate on the open market if the Reds had not inexplicably resigned him to take ab's away from Ryan Hanigan.
I'd hate to trade Bailey considering that he may have figured some stuff out finally.
Why doesn't Jocketty go ahead and trade Joey Votto to the Red Sox for a bag of magic beans so I can go ahead and set myself on fire, rather than making me wait 3 years?
"The Reds will pursue catcher Ramon Hernandez in free agency despite declining his $8.5 million option for 2010"
Why... why in the name of all that is holy and good why!!!
"So, stop criticizing people’s fandom."
I absolutely agree. To the Yankees fans out there, we don't hate you. We just hate the Yankees.
On the flip side, please extend us the same courtesy. I had no more choice about Reds fandom than Joe had about Yankee Fever. Whats more, there's not really much I can do about the fact that the Reds are run poorly. So stop giving us that know-it-all "If every team had an owner who wanted to win as much as Steinbrenner" lecture. I can't make Dan Castellini raise the payroll. And when Jay Bruce is patrolling RF for the Yankee's in 3 years because we "can't afford" his arbitration numbers or some nonsense like that, I'm gonna be righteously pissed off. And you... Yankee Fan... would be too.
The big test for every other team in the league will be to prevent the Yankees from signing Lackey. If the Yank's don't get outbid for Lackey, then nobody else is serious about this baseball thing and we should all start watching soccer. I don't begrudge the Yanks for doing their level best to win with the resources they have, but I do think they get off easy because nobody challenges them.
That's a very good point. The Yanks medical staff and coaches work wonders with guys like Damon and Matsui to get the best out of them. If Damon played for my beloved Redlegs, he'd have been on the DL for most of the year.
I believe a certain team from the midwest somewhere was responsible for that butt kicking... had a nifty nickname... mmm.. it was sooooo long ago, oh yeah, THE BIG RED MACHINE!!!
To paraphrase Joe from a recent chat, "What were they supposed to do with the money?" Are they supposed to pocket it like the pukes who run the frickin Royals? Field a sub-par team when they have the means to improve it out of some misplaced chivalry towards the poor abused Blue Jays?
The reason the Yankees and the Red Sox have dominated the high salary portion of this game is because so many other teams have decided not to compete with them. Or if they have, like the Mets, they've done it poorly.
I think it's unfortunate that the rating system drops the below comment,
"You can buy a pennant."
Off the board. Not because its incorrect, simply because doing so deprives the author of more instructive levels of correction for his asinine statement.
Of course you can buy a pennant. Everybody buys their pennant, unless I missed the last time an all volunteer team won the world series. The Phillies bought their pennant. Last year the Ray's bought theirs on the discount rack. Back in the 20's the Yankees bought theirs in the "Nobody else is allowed to pay Ruth but us aisle"
Y'know what, I hate the fricking Yankees too. I think its the patriotic duty of any red blooded american outside of the NYC or Tampa area to hate the Yankees.
But the Yankees did not do anything Evil to win this pennant.
I got impatient and googled it over the weekend. Already voted.
Considering the Key Stat, don't the Twinkies have a chance to make a step forward next year because their holes are so deep if the just get league average from 2b and 3b next year they make bigger strides than similar teams?
That is in NO way Joe's argument. The difference between acoustic and electronic music is a matter of taste and degree that reasonable people can disagree about. Whether the ball was fair or foul is a matter of fact with serious zero sum consequences. We can disagree all we want about how to go about doing it, but all Joe is trying to do is campaign for us to use the absolute best possible tools at our disposal to determine the facts.
What Joe is arguing here is that it is patently ridiculous for us to ignore the available tools to determine the facts on the field in favor of antiquated loyalty to, as he points out, middle management.
In my opinion, if MLB is not taking every step possible to ensure that the arbiters on the field are doing their absolute best to determine the outcome of events on the field of play, then what we are watching is not a game of skill, but a farce, a morality play with no more significance than a pro wrestling match (and I say that as a wrasslin fan).
I don't need them to BE perfect, but they at least need to be STRIVING for perfection.
Ami I the only football fan who doesn't mind replay delays? Are we not grown ups here? I for one am willing to wait a minute or two to see if they got the call right in a game where fractions of inches can decide things.
When it comes to baseball umpiring, I'm much more upset about plays in the field and at home plate than balls and strikes. Having an umpire in the booth upstairs watching, ready to beep down to the home plate umpire if he sees a close play. We wait 30 seconds while he double checks. The play gets called right and we move on. How hard could that be?
I think both Janish and Stubbs have earned first shots at their respective jobs next year, just not their spots in the batting order. I could live with Stubbs at leadoff if he really is adjusting and he starts taking more walks. Janish certainly looks like a dead bat, but I was surprised to find out he hit 21 doubles this year in only 292 PA. With his glove he only needs to be replacement level with the bat to be worth it.
"Still, it's difficult to envision this team breaking out of the middle of the pack without keen vision and bold steps."
Well said... we haven't made any bold steps here in Cincy since Marge Schott was the owner. Maybe we need is someone crazy running things again. Does anybody know if Glenn Beck wants to own a Baseball team?
I love BP's optimism, (the player not the publication). That said, until Baker is dealt with, I can't share it. It's great that the Redlegs have been playing great in september, but there's no indication that Dusty is going to suddenly figure out that having a sub .300 obp guy lead off every game wrecks your offense. Or heck, having Brandon Phillips as your cleanup hitter doesn't show a deep understanding of the game.
Yup, the team Greg Vaughn just hauled onto his back and drug along.
Ok... Hillman here is frickin delusional. Considering the players that have been chosen to be on this years squad, how are we to believe he and Moore will recognize a good young player when they do develop one?
As the worlds biggest Adam Dunn fan, I was saddened to see him settle for that crummy deal with the Nats. If you wanna talk about Dunn contrasts, the Reds essentially replaced Adam Dunn with Wily Tavares and a collection of used bandages. Now we're the worst hitting team in baseball.
"but I never feel so much like I’m at a neighborhood gathering as I do when I’m at Wrigley Field."
We could have had something like that in Cincy, but we decided to build the Gap next to a giant hole in the ground by the river.
It sickens me to think that the same folks who will ignore Sammy Sosa's 600+ HR's (a pretty darn big number) because of "performance" enhancing drug have kept Bert Blyleven out of the HOF because he didn't reach a magic number (300 wins).
The good Barry Larkin from the 90's, not the Zombie Barry Larkin from the mid 00's.
As bad as he's been, Hardy could walk into GABP and be the best SS we've seen since Barry Larkin.
We call it"The Gap" all the time here in the QC
"Bernazard also made a derogatory remark to a player by referring to him by a slang term for a part of a woman’s anatomy."
He did what? Which one? Can yah give us a hint?
I just want to chime in that "Broken Arrow" is one of my guilty pleasures as well. I believe it marks the last time anybody cast Christian Slater as anything resembling an action hero.
I'll chime in as a rabid reds fan. I do think we should be buyers considering the quality of our young SP's. But if we do decide to pull the plug, I'd shop Arthur Rhodes, Coco Cordero, and Ramon Hernandez. I'd also be looking to flip Jerry Hairston to a team that feels it needs a super sub.
BTW, everybody needs to just back on up outta Joe's face on the Ryan Howard thing. Somebody hasta be the most overrated player in the game. Joe has nominated Ryan Howard. He did not accuse Ryan Howard of child molestation. Heck, he didn't even accuse Ryan Howard of being a bad player. I'm fairly certain Joe does not HATE Ryan Howard. He's just not as good as people think, and making such propositions is one of Joe's JOBS here at BP.
Disagree? Fine. Nominate someone else. Derek Jeter anyone?
So the dolts who run the Nats get a pass for putting Manny in this position by providing him with an atrocious team (Zimmerman and Dunn excepted) but they get Kudos for firing Acta cuz that will impress the players? Accountability for results? The Nats problem is not a matter of effort. It's a matter of immense suckitude. Trying harder will not turn that team around. Acquiring better players is what will turn this team around.
Tell yah what, I'll take the under on Joe's proposition. Rigglemans had plenty of opportunities to show how much he stinks. My bet is the Nats continue to suck. Hard.
We'll take Manny Acta, just help me lure Dusty Baker onto this tramp steamer...
Dusty and Joe Girardi were hired the same offseason by the wrong teams. Dusty would have thrived in NY with a lineup thats hard to screw up and a media environment he would have thrived in. As well as a GM with the balls to put his foot down on any of Dusty's odder notions.
Girardi on the other hand would have a young team full of guys he could work with the way he did in Florida.
Win/win situation. The only losers would be Corey Patterson and Wily Tavares.
Hey Ms. Karhl, excellent work as usual. I watch every Reds game on TV, so I'm intimately familiar with our offensive woes. My question is this, how much of Ryan Hanigan is for real? Last year he looked way over his head at the plate, this year he looks like Tony Gwynn. I still think he should start over the Crusty Hernandez, I just worry about a Dusty Finish here. The kid will get a chance, slump just a bit, then Dusty will yank him and exile him to once a week.
Day 4, and I'm officially calling in a missing persons report on Ryan Hanigan. I mean, in Toronto I thought, "hey... maybe he can't find his passport". But we're in Cleveland and I know I can get to Cleveland in 4 Hours if I miss the highway patrol.
Ramon Hernandez is currently hitting .237/.323/.342, so I'm gonna call that a a scabby crust.
BTW, Hanigan's line .325/.397/.411.
If you can't tell the better hitter out from those two lines AND your team is scoring runs by the thimbleful, then you deserve to be fired.
And 3 days in, it's Crusty Veteran Catcher 3 starts, rookie catcher who leads all rookies in BA and OBP 0 starts.
"At least Votto's return brings to a head the decision between Ramon Hernandez and Ryan Hanigan behind the plate"
If tonight's game is any indication, Dusty has already made his decision and its the crusty veteran by a landslide!
Chameleon and Phantom Girl, who else could they be...
Gotta say, until I read this I didn't know what the Cape Cod League was. Thumbs Up.
First time I saw Dunn as a rookie I said to my wife (GF at the time) "That is one BIG KID" And that's what we've called him ever since.
Damn happy that Dunn is off to a good start, too bad he's wasting it playing for peanuts in Washington.
"Raw" stats come in three delicious flavors:"
I clicked the thumbs up right there.
I'm forwarding this article to the sports talk guys here in Cincy, because whilst the Redlegs have been throttling the Snakes this week, there has been a lot of talk about how Eric Byrnes would be the perfect solution for our LF hole.
Joe, talk about a bad trade! I learned my killer chicken marsala from a cookbook.
SportsCenter? Whats that?
"and no one argues that the home runs hit by Alex Sanchez should be stricken from the record book. "
What, BOTH of them?
Heck, Our Pal Joey Votto took a spike yesterday on a play at the plate where he tried too hook slide around Ryan Doumit. Doumit was stretched all the way across the plate to take a throw from left field. Votto did everything he could to avoid him and still caught spikes. Luckily it just caused a change in uniform, but still...
3rd base i believe
"He was fine; the walks were as much a function of pitching around Edwin Encarnacion twice as they were any issues with his command."
We're gonna see a lot of that here in the Queen City as long as Dusty decides to bat the Lil Dog 6th in front of the Zombie Ramon Hernandez and Gonzo the Great. Betcha the Dustbuster bats him 7th against righthanders...
Meanwhile Brandon Phillips will continue to bat cleanup because... well we didn't need a reason last year. And listen to this bit of lineup laziness. Willy Tavares, Hacking Mass All-Star, had a touch of the flu so he had the night off. The creative platoon of Jerry Hairston/Chris Dickerson took the leadoff spot, which I'm cool with actually. But Tavarez's replacement in CF is 10 year minor league vet coming off the March of his life Darnell Mcdonald. And Dusty bats him SECOND! Against Johann Santana!!! On OPENING DAY!!!
And don't get me started on how our #1 pinch hitter off the bench is 5th starter Micah Owings?
(and the season's only one day old)
Hey Will, which of the Red Reporter locations will yah be at? Gameday Cafe or Rookwood? (I'm guessing gameday makes the most sense for an out of towner now that I think of it.)
Thank gods of all varieties my Reds are no longer on this list.
"He's above the JAWS line for an average HOF starter on both peak and career."
Yeah, but so is Bert Blyleven. My take is if Schilling never goes to Boston, he's on the outside looking in.
"a quality .215 [batting average],which if nothing else gives me a great name for a fantasy team."
When does Hacking Mass start, because there will be a line forming up for that name....
Index? I just read it front to back like a novel...;}
\"C\'mon! Do you really need proof\"
Um... Yes, yes you do. You really do need proof. Otherwise you\'re just a rumormonger out to destroy someones reputation. We don\'t have anything remotely resembling proof that Slammin Sammy did steroids. Until we do, people should absolutely stop lumping him in with Bonds and McGuire.
\"when it is obvious this stuff was being used wildly by all the big boppers.\"
There\'s a term for a group of people who don\'t require proof to hand down verdicts.
Hey! at the time Kearns was a really good rf. Ok we were playing him in center...
\"Sammy Sosa comes to mind as a prominent, frequently accused player that has not been found guilty.\"
I certainly hope that the HoF voters take this into consideration when the only player to hit 60 hrs in consecutive seasons comes up.
Going into last year, my impression of Jr. was that the bast way he could help the reds would be to blow out his knee in spring training. We\'ve been pretending Griffey was something he wasn\'t for the last three years, a starting outfielder. I hope Joe is right and he can help a team towards a championship, (would the Twins be a good fit?), but the view from here in Cincy is well done toast.
Did I miss a big news story where Sammy Sosa failed a drug test? Or some big tell all book came out? Or some kind of proof he did anything other than hit a hell of a lot of home runs at the same time Mark McGuire did? Until you have any of those, leave Sammy alone.
If some team could actually swing Manny and Dunn in the middle of the order (I\'d prolly do Dunn-Manny) That would be sweet.
Manny Ramirez... Cincinnati Red... Lets make it happen folks... Yes We Can!
He knew exactly what he was getting into when he forced wayne krivsky out. He get\'s no sympathy from me.
\"Our club is built a lot different this year\"
Yup, we\'re built to score fewer runs, lets see how that works out.
Alomar? Before Larkin? (i\'m a big Hall guy so take this as no disrespect to Mr. Alomar, who should go in too).
BTW, same with Sosa, McGuire, Palmeiro, and Clemens.
And Pete Rose might fit in there somehow I guess.
Larkin .291 584 320 164 98.9 62.6 80.8
Trammell .282 526 242 154 93.6 56.5 75.1
If neither of these guys get into the HOF, they should just close the damn thing down.
As for Gordon, good for him. I\'m pretty liberal when it comes to the HoF. As far as I\'m concerned the more guys in the better, especially considering how flawed the BBRAA process is. Its not like everybody gets 15 years on the ballot. Sweet Lou Whitaker dropped off after two years (i think?). Nobody even got a chance to build a case for him.
People were up in arms when Toby Perez went in. Didn\'t stop me from driving all day and night to watch him (and Carlton Fisk) go in. As far as I\'m concerned Gordon is hardly exhibit A for Vet committee foolishness.
I guess we here in flyover country missed the boat. I guess I\'m a Randy guy, cuz he pitched for the Mariners when Jr. was there. I\'d much rather say I was a Jose Rijo guy. If only his elbow could hold up....
I certainly hope Moose doesn\'t fall into the black hole that has sucked up Bert Blyleven\'s HOF chances. The same one that\'s waiting for Tim Raines and Barry Larkin.
On Jack Morris, isn\'t he an example of a class of \'80s players who we all Thought would be no brainer HOF\'ers at the time, but just ended up dissapointing? Dale Murphy, Dave Parker, Orel Hersheiser. Is the 80\'s as a decade going to feel underrepresented in the Hall when all is said and done? If you\'d told me back in 1987 that Jack Morris wasn\'t going to the Hall of Fame I\'d have been almost flabbergasted.
\"The real story here is that Dusty Baker gave Joey Votto a full season of PAs. I didn\'t see that coming, and he deserves credit for it.\"
That was a real nail biter here in the Queen City. Remember, Scott Hatteberg started the season at 1b with Joey on the bench for the first couple of weeks. At first I thought Krivsky was trying to showcase Hat. Then after hitting like a little girl for 34 games, Hat just...Dissapeared! I expected all season for him to pop up on somebody\'s roster as a platoon dh/1b or pinch hitter. What happened?
Dusty did much better by the young players than anybody here expected. Despite his fascination with Corey Patterson, he played Joey, rode through The Bruce\'s midseason slump, and he didn\'t kill Edwin Encarnacion. Maybe this is the first time Dusty has had an actual rebuilding team on his hands. In SF he always had Bonds, and in Chicago he was put in charge of a team expected to compete for a title right away. Here in Cincy the pressure is less to win now so he has the leeway to let the kids play?
Think Votto\'s defense translates to LF when Yonder Alonso shows up?
\"The guy who listed Joey Votto ahead of Geovany Soto, well, you stay classy.\"
I\'ll buy that guy a Christian Morelein. C\'mon, they were separated by 4 points of VORP. I\'m glad The right guy won, but that vote wasn\'t as slam dunk as Pujols over Howard. Interestingly, when I went to look up the stats I noticed this.
Player A:.272/.343/.531, 35.7 VORP
Player B:.297/.368/.506, 35.3 VORP
That\'s Evan Longoria on top, and Our Pal Joey on the bottom. I know Evan has a higher ceiling due to youth, but I was struck by how similar the seasons are. Longoria picked up 38 downballot votes for AL MVP, Soto picked up 41 in the NL, and Joey, a player just as good as either of them, got.....zero.
What I want to know is this, did Williams even shop Swisher around at all? Or did Brian Cashman use his Jedi Mind tricks on him at the GM meetings? \"These ARE the prospects you are looking for... You don\'t need to call Walt Jocketty... You can move along now...\"
There has to be some reason for teams to continue giving players to the Yankee for nothing.
If we\'re gonna play schmucks in 2 OF slots anyways, is their any reason to stretch The Bruce\'s talent in CF? I\'d rather just let him get on with settling into RF and turning into Larry Walker
Dickerson\'s not any kind of real solution. He\'s a decent 4th OF, and I could live with him manning center until we do find a real one, but he\'s exactly the kind of player that Dusty would fall in love with. If he\'s starting in CF and leading off this April, we\'re in trouble.
It never really was just the strikeouts that bugged the Reds about the Big Kid. It was a perception that Dunn\'s total package didn\'t justify all of his strikeouts. Now we BP readers know that is ... what\'s the word... oh yeah... STUPID, but that\'s the way Dunn was perceived here. Marty Brenneman spent a lot of airtime dogging Dunn, and his attitude certainly filtered down to talk radio and the fan base.
Guys who strike out a lot but look like they\'re trying REAL HARD, those are Reds type of guys... ;)
Reds: Move EdE to left, Keppinger to 3rd, try hard to sign Furcal, grab a real CF, don\'t screw up the SP\'s, get a real catcher, work on LT contracts w/ Votto and Bruce, approach architects about moving fences back 10\' or so...
As a Reds partisan I can\'t say I\'m sorry for the prospect of the Astros falling past us into the cellar with the Pirates for a few years.
I know baseball/football comparisons run into all kinds of problems, but isn\'t this state of affairs a bit similar to the old days of NFC dominance back in the 80\'s and early 90\'s? The NFC had the 49\'ers and most of the NFC East beating the crap out of each other to get to the postseason, constantly challenging each other (especially in the pre-cap days)whilst the AFC sent a constant stream of underachievers to the slaughter each January.
Of course in baseball, its quite possible for one of those mediocre teams to win it all, hence maybe the Astros were justified in going for it in this diluted system?