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Aaaaaand now I'm imagining an Abbott and Costello routine
"Did he take a rip?"
"Well he didn't swing..."
"No, I mean *rip*"
"Well, his pants are intact..."
Craig is very nimble.
(derp, I should have read the return. oh well. reading is for squares.)
<span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=102223">Lewis Thorpe</a></span> is injured. Out for the year.
I'd offer <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=67098">Eddie Rosario</a></span> and <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=100574">Jose Berrios</a></span> for Gomez.
How did Buxton and Sano graduate from the list but not Gallo?
Gordon was drafted fifth overall.
On Stewart's spot it says: "Realistic Role: High 5ighH; no. 3/4 starter." What does that mean?
Agreed as well. I was at the ballpark for every game last year and didn't even hear a whisper about an event. Happy to help move it forward as a quasi-BP alum
And that's before you figure in Arcia and Hicks.
Holy smut this is wonderful.
Terry Ryan, last September: "I'll tell you this...if there's a guy out there who can get people to swing and miss...we're interested. People will tell you otherwise, but we're always looking for those types."
Now do I believe that exactly....I'm not sure. (See: Correia, K.)
Local media types seem to suggest Gibson could start the season in the pen to keep his innings in check.
Outstanding as always.
Freudian slip on Cespedes as an "all-of-nothing" hitter?
Projections are just that, and are oftentimes exceeded by even the most ordinary of players.
The club isn't wholly different than the one which one 90-plus games two seasons ago -- with the exception of JJ Hardy, notably -- but has a ton more risk than that group.
The Twins won't win 92 games, but 85 is definitely possible.
Love the piece as always, but I don't necessarily think the Twins are 'bad'.
They were bad in '11, but it's not entirely a hugely turned over roster from '10, which won 90-plus games.
I think 85 wins is a pretty likely/possible scenario. It's not going to put visions of meaningful October baseball in anyone's eyes, but IDK about bad either.
Pretty much spot on with how I feel about this year's incarnation.
Benson and Dozier are unlikely to see much, if any time this year, and Hendriks will probably be the one called on if/when Marquis is moved on from.
I also think JR Towles is ahead of Rene Rivera on the depth chart.
Aptly named, as I'm sure this broadsided just about everyone.
How many year deal did you get?
Yeah, 41 strikeouts would be Glen Perkins throwing right-handed.
Joe Crede Feb 21 2009
Does he count?
This is what we wait all offseason for, prospect nerds!
Looks pretty good. Vasquez was taken off the 40-man so he might struggle to even get any innings. I'd probably give those to Jeff Gray (not really, but Gardenhire will).
Gray's on the 40-man.
And for the record, didn't mean to jump all over you. My Johan Santana wounds are still raw. #TwinsFan
There's a certain amount of "it's not FOR you" at play here. Sort of like RBI, batting average, and what broadcasters talk about during the game. #sigh
If its what someone else enjoys, far be it from me to dismiss. Is it shallow and pedantic? Oh, yeah. But so are a lot of things that people enjoy.
And what the hell is a "skrilla"?
Actually I know what it means, and it makes me sad.
It's a horrible, dreadful idea but if we're completely honest, it in some ways fits with what popular society and culture have become for young people. The music, dialect and intellect of our younger culture make me shake my head on a nearly hourly basis.
I'm an old 25, I suppose.
Which is to suggest they got there before Santana, right?
I mean I see what you're saying, but adding that much payroll just for a sliver better chance to move on in the playoffs is bad business.
Now, to do so to bolster your rotation....yes that makes sense.
It was just the wording that I didn't agree with.
That's the easy math; who knows what might have happened had Span made the club rather than Gomez?
Needed a true number one starter to get where?
I don't see how one can arbitrarily just throw that part out.
For one, the Twins would have net two picks just for holding onto him for the season.
But as far as the money goes, I'm pretty sure the deal was contingent on that negotiating window which allowed the contract.
Second of all, the Twins had offered a five-year extension to his existing deal (I think it was for $93 million).
You don't necessarily have to include the future contract to judge the deal on the whole, but I don't think it can be summarily dismissed, either.
Great as always John. Hope you're well.
Great article. You sure that's the new candidate smell on Bagwell, and not all the meat?
Nevermind, I see it now. He does incorporate minor league innings. Still, not sure how I feel about his appeal to Jack Z's authority on higher stress big league innings.
I guess I'm confused. Does he only count MLB innings?
Because if he doesn't, isn't a young kid with say....20 innings in the bigs A. guaranteed to add 30 innings almost no matter what and B. subject to a once-around-the-league sort of success? As in "scouting reports really haven't caught up, yet?" kind of deal?
Pretty typical. Always good.
I should add my trademark #sigh, too. Sometimes this team just makes me sad.
Aaron Sele, also born in Golden Valley. The Twins sure do love their own, btw. (Hrbek, Steinbach, Molitor, Winfield, Mauer, Neshek among I'm sure tons of others)
Perez reminds me an awful lot of a young Liriano.
'nother Mike Fast column to bookmark. As if I didn't reference others -- like the catcher's defense one -- enough.
I wonder if he isn't a big fan of Aroldis, or at least a big follower, and that may have played a role in his gear.
Wonder if it'll play a role on where he signs, though I doubt it.
Were charges filed in the McRae incident?
Nothing by Cowboy Joe West, hmm...
Absolutely scintillating piece of journalism, Colin.
I should note: Two-pitch starters. Not just any old pitcher.
I think the worry was that his changeup wouldn't be an out pitch as a starter, and thus he'd be a two-pitch pitcher, of which there are few that are successful in the bigs.
He may be a sell-high candidate, but the Rangers are no doubt enjoying the ride.
Why can I only give this post +1?
All kidding aside, this is exactly right.
My original take was go with Blackburn in the roto, and move on from him once he falters/Gibson is ready.
Now I have no idea what to think.
You're exactly right RJ. The only thing I can think of is that they're giving Blackburn a shot, but would replace him with Slowey or even Gibson if/when he slips.
But even that seems to convoluted to be true. Blackburn is one of "Gardy's Guys", which is a new meme around the Twins blogosphere.
The point is that not everyone has a Ryan Howard pushing aside a Jim Thome, so it's only fair to have a reference point that is equal across the board.
My word, that entire article described my childhood.
Intriguing to say the least. Good stuff.
Thome playing more than Kubel? I'd be utterly shocked if that happens.
Am I the only one that loves that Martin Freeman links to a BP player page?
As a former intern, I can fill you in a bit.
Everything is done from the comfort of your home. As far as a deadline though, you'd have to find out from someone a bit more in the know on that one.
The Twins would be best suited to go with a rotation of:
This would leave Duensing in the bullpen. Kyle Gibson will likely come up midseason anyway, and usurp whoever is in the 5th spot in the rotation, which is Blackburn, who in all likelihood is the least valuable of the lot. Thus, there's less shuffling around by letting it play out as I've suggested.
With that said, I'm guessing Blackburn gets squeezed out on the heels of this announcement. Twins have never been big saber types, hence signing Blackburn to the extension in the first place.
Excellent article. Based on my research, Nishioka's skill set should adapt the the MLB game better than Matsui's.
Matsui traded strikeouts for home runs in Japan, but forgot to pack the round-trippers when he came across.
Knowing what I know about Scott Baker, this makes too much sense.
That is awesome. Thanks.
Indeed. Save Ferris.
Great article, man.
I'm currently seeking treatment for Post-seasonal Stress Disorder, but my prescription expires in mid-February.
Thanks for your concern.
He's not a free agent or anything, though.
That's sort of the point though; his results haven't matched his surroundings thus far, and any team looking to take him on should be cautious.
If you like UZR/150, that's your prerogative. Still, he's not a very good fielder, and unlikely to change.
What a good fit for him.
It may not be too apt, but Wilson's OPS+ at this point in his career was 103 and Crawford's is 107. Coleman's was more for the speed than it was the hitting, as Coleman's speed was a much more dangerous weapon than Crawford's is, and Crawford has provided a better stick.
Took the words right out of my mouth. He had decent power, but he certainly wasn't revered for it while playing a good portion of his career in the early steroids era.
And that, coupled with his all-time low in-zone swinging percentage (by nearly 3.5%), means Pavano is living in borrowed time.
Pavano's career mark is 26.3%, and I don't know about you all, but I know that a lot of readers get tired of the sidebars after each stat that gets used (career mark, league mark, etc.), so I simply left it out because it didn't seem all that pertinent.
Nevertheless, there you have it.
You are welcome, my good man.
A perfectly legitimate question, and one I don't really have a good answer to. I just know that they're possibly interested, and that Pavano is likely deserving of a raise.
A better question would be John Buck for $6 million per annum? Seriously?
Where was anyone in 2009? Where was Greinke of 2009 in 2010? He was good, but not earth-shatteringly great in 2010, and Funck absolutely nails it on the head with his assessment. Sometimes it's easier to criticize when one doesn't have to create their own version of the content.
He only had 20 odd plate appearances after Aug 1. last year.
If the Twins can re-sign him for 3 years and say, $5 million total, they truly ought to do it.
Plouffe has a shot to be a decent major league regular, but Hardy is a well above average shortstop in today's game, and the Twins can't afford to have two black holes in the middle of their infield again in 2011, because while Casilla controls the strike zone well, he's only really been successful at the plate in the first half of 2008 and then in extremely limited duty in 2010.
Better yet, start Baker and Slowey. I'm still facepalming from that decision.
Great post Matty. I was going to ask the same thing, because if what was posted in the article were exactly true, we'd never have called third strikes.
Nonetheless, I'm still absolutely wowed by this article. Great stuff Colin.
Thank you for reading, Peter!
Couldn't agree more, Mark. I'm pretty mad that they're going with Blackburn, and am indifferent to Duensing.
In my mind, they ought to go Liriano-Pavano-Baker-Slowey, for my money, but Duensing has brought the money all year, even though is peripherals aren't all that special.
As a Twins season ticket holder, I emphatically say "YES"
Good job on adding Hudson. Still can't understand why you trade a minor league starter with K rates like that just for the right to pay Jackson $8.5 million next year.
I agree. It is nice to focus on positives from time to time!
Thank you for reading, Drew!
He was one of the best doubles hitters of his ERA. May or may not be Hall worthy, but noteworthy nonetheless.
Noted. A good point and something to remember for the next article. Thanks!
In my opinion, since they aren't one of the three actual outcomes, it does make it noteworthy.
It could be because he's been a DH for a good portion of his career, but when I think of "much" I think of more than half, and Thome's still only played about 1/3 of his career as a DH.
Eh, they have Jose Morales.
Mauer caught the most games in the AL this year; sitting him against a lefty now and then provides enough rest for him.
That\'s 50 games that you have Laird\'s bat in over Kubel. Ick.
And what do you do with Redmond then? Redmond is the perfect handcuff for Mauer because Red hits lefties at a decent clip (.327/.382/.426 career mark in 809 PA v. LHP)
Let me add that Furcal-Roberts up the middle would be stupid sexy.
1. Furcal SS
2. Roberts 2B
3. Mauer C
4. Morneau 1B
5. Young LF
6. Kubel DH
7. Cuddyer RF
8. Harris/Buscher 3B
9. Span CF
Don\'t you think the discrepancy between Furcal and McDonald is pretty huge?
If we can\'t land Furcal, I\'m 100 percent comfortable moving Casilla to SS, bringing back Punto, or trying Tolbert or Machado before I\'d sign John McDonald.
Additionally, why would you want Mauer\'s bat out of the lineup for 50 games?
Twins - Play for today.