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I was at the Reds game on Saturday when Votto did that. The home plate ump (who was a minor league call-up) was having an awful day so its possible Votto was trolling him. Its also possible Votto is just losing his mind during the latest 9 game losing streak.
Thank you to the two or three of you who didn't pick the Reds for last place. Even though this will be a 60-102 season.
Can the Cubs get close to 30 starts from their top 5 pitchers again?
Some other non-Votto positives:
<span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=70646">Jesse Winker</a></span>'s .400 <span class="statdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?search=OBP" onmouseover="doTooltip(event, jpfl_getStat('OBP'))" onmouseout="hideTip()">OBP</span></a> in the minors should work well hitting in front of Votto.
<span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=67744">Adam Duvall</a></span> might be trade bait if he can hit another 30 home runs.
Its likely that one of <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/player_search.php?search_name=Cody+Reed">Cody Reed</a></span>, <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=70762">Robert Stephenson</a></span>, <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=70869">Rookie Davis</a></span>, <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=70946">Amir Garrett</a></span>, or <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=70957">Sal Romano</a></span> will be a competent major league pitcher by the summer.
Dombrowski can continue this strategy so long as the brains who draft and develop players like Betts and Bradley still run that part of the organization.
Is a -16 rating a record at BP? #goals
Gonna be a very long time before any NL Central team that doesn't rhyme with Schmardinals can compete with the Cubs Behemoth™.
Everything about this page is great except the note about Kyle Chandler, who is best known as Coach.
Thanks BP guys and gals. The Reds are one of the weirder organizations in baseball right now. A GM who sunk his team to 64 win seasons but was given a gentle sendoff and still retained as an advisor? Check. A team that has so many question marks that they don't make one major league transaction until after January 1? Check.
I'm a big fan of WInker. IMO he's getting a bit of negative run because his power is slightly disappointing. The .400 <span class="statdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?search=OBP" onmouseover="doTooltip(event, jpfl_getStat('OBP'))" onmouseout="hideTip()">OBP</span></a> in his first year of AAA is what I care about, vis a vis Winker hitting right in front of Votto.
The Reds spent a number of top draft picks on starting pitchers (Lorenzen, Stephenson, Travieso) who might all turn out to be relievers. But given the bullpen's current status as one of the worst of all-time, there could be worse outcomes.
For the U25 guys, I still see potential if unlikely breakout for Finnegan and Suarez. Both showed real skills at the major league level at ages 23 and 24.
With Jocketty hopefully no longer in a decision-making role, hopefully the Reds abandon the draft strategy of taking high power, high K hackers.
I look at KC and see a little of the post-2013 Reds, IMO. (Reds fan.)
Where would the Angels be without Trout? Its like the NFL equivalent of the Indianapolis Colts with Andrew Luck.
Pirates FO have made many smart decisions, but they've also relied on reclamation projects that requires luck. Desperately need their farm system to replenish the big league team immediately.
I googled Brielle Biermann, which I instantly regretted.
So virtually all of their U25 talent is in the minors. That seems bad.
The 2011 draft was a train wreck. Low budget teams can't mess up in the draft.
So you're saying what the Yankees traded for Chapman is better than what they traded away to get Chapman.
(I'll let myself out.)
First time (for me, at least) someone has made the list with a birth year starting with 20. End times, people.
Great summary of the last five years for the Cubs. A mixture of incredible luck and shrewd and larcenous deals. 15 other teams think, why can't we do this?
Thanks for writing about him. He's an OF/3B, btw.
Anyone who claims that Ichiro should be above Pete on the all-time hit list is just inviting unnecessary criticism towards the player. Had he played in American ball from age 18, he would certainly be close to Pete and most likely in the top ten.
File this topic with Sadaharu Oh's 868 home runs. Interesting but inconclusive. Also, Pete referring to himself as the "Hit Queen" in Japan is hilarious. Rose's sense of humor was always a 80.
The Reds picked the wrong year(s) to draft high without a Strasburg, Harper, Bryant, Machado, or Correa. (Un)luckily for them, they will probably be bad for a few more years to get a shot at a sure draft thing.
The Reds were so awful the last two nights vs Cleveland, I expect them to hit Clevinger hard tonight back at home.
I blame the Cardinals.
I lean a bit old fashioned, but I certainly think girls/women should be able to play baseball with men or women. The one sport I wouldn't support women playing would be football, at least at high contact positions.
Excellent research, Sam and Ben.
Fantasy aside, Reds fans are very excited about Iglesias. He's one of those "you gotta watch this guy" pitchers.
Granted, on a minor league deal.
And then add Victorino as of this morning. Seems like the Cubs are fielding a 30 man roster this year. Suffice to say that expectations are REALLY high on the north side of Chicago this year.
Man, if the Royals win 75 games this year.....
How did this franchise make a World Series?
What is Greene's acting upside?
The number of shortstops is staggering.
If nothing else, the Reds should hopefully be able to convert all this minor league pitching talent into a competent bullpen.
Another sell low deal by Jocketty. Lean days for Reds fans.
The Reds obviously love Peraza, whom both the Braves and Dodgers gave up on as an everyday infielder. Lean days for the <span class="teamdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/team_audit.php?team=CIN" target="blank">Cincinnati Reds</a></span>.
<span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/player_search.php?search_name=Bud+Black">Bud Black</a></span> should've consulted <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=27000">Ron Oester</a></span> before turning down the job. (Though admittedly he will probably get another chance elsewhere.)
Latos burned the bridge after being traded to Miami, then burned the ashes too. His wife is a drama queen too.
As a Reds fan I wanted him signed to a long term deal after last year. This is why I'm only an internet commenter.
His pitches dance all over the zone and he throws from many arm angles. He's a lot of fun to watch.
Reds have started rookie pitchers for about 15 straight games, and Lamb continues that. Long days ahead for Reds fans.
Somehow espn.com made this mistake as well. As a UC alum, its a bit aggravating to see Ian Happ as a Louisville Cardinal.
Everyone knows the Reds are finished except Bob Castellini and Walt Jocketty.
Walt Jocketty and his staff have made a few bets like Lorenzen that have paid off. Unfortunately, extensions to Bailey and Phillips and inability to address the bullpen and bench have driven the Reds from contention for the next few years.
What is a Hillcat?
I thought it was unprovoked and uncalled for, but abusive might be a bit strong. What <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=1113">Brandon Phillips</a></span> said to Trent last year was abusive (and personal.) Price was really just mad at his sleepy GM who is fine going a week with 23 players and took it out on Trent.
I should've listened in senior physics class 20 years ago.
If Marquis and Maholm make numerous starts for the Reds, it will be a very long season. Iglesias is their wild card.
Did you ever play shortstop, Sam?
I'm glad to see the Padres do this. The team was perhaps the most irrelevant and faceless club in the big leagues. It will be nice to see another team give SF and LA a little competition. (Sorry, Rockies and Dbacks.)
Votto is definitely not a jock. Reds management and Reds fans love him, and its costing the franchise dearly. He has a chance to return to a .300/.400/.500 career, but his quad/knee injury is a real concern. Further, history does not show many first basemen playing well or even playing at all into their late 30's. Eddie Murray...anyone else?
I suspect the Reds will agree to an retirement settlement with Votto in about 6-7 years. (His contract runs through age 39.) Hopefully he will return to MVP form before that time comes.
I'm 36 and play in a men's league where a fastball is 58 and a curve (no one throws change ups) is 47, and I have trouble with that. These guys have super human reaction time and nerves.
Probably the best contract offered by the Reds since Cueto's similar deal of 4/$27m (team option!) years ago. Mesoraco would either have to become very injury-prone or hit like Jose Molina to make the deal a liability for the Reds.
So having the highest rated farm system isn't necessarily the answer. Instead, perhaps its just "Do whatever the St. Louis Cardinals are doing."
This has probably been said many times, but I would vote in about 15 guys this year, including all the PED users. Bonds, Clemens, McGwire, Sosa.....put them all in. Does the BBWAA ever really look at the characters and careers that have been voted into the HOF over the years? Ray Schalk, Travis Jackson, Vic Willis, Lloyd Waner? Not to mention the racists (Anson, Landis), scoundrels (Cobb), and mentally unstable (Waddell).
You know what would happen to the baseball HOF if all the PED users were voted in? Nothing.
Reds fans are happy about the Simon trade for many reasons. One, they had nothing invested in him as a waiver wire pick up. Two, he's 34 and will be lucky to be a 4/5 starter for Detroit. Three, Reds fans are happy to have *anyone* potentially unseat the offensively inoffensive Zack Cozart at SS, who must have incriminating photos of Walt Jocketty. And four, that ugly story from last spring was....ugly.
The Latos return was very underwhelming, although Keith Law and Lindbergh both floated the bad makeup rumor out there. (That's the first I've heard of it.) More importantly, perhaps his elbow is not intact as the Reds desired. He pitched fine last year, but his velocity was around 90 on fastballs in his last few starts. Seems like the Reds got a middle reliever and backup catcher/future DH for Latos, so still disappointing.
So what movie did Sam veto from this list?
What has become apparent the last few years is the Reds have heavily invested in projectable arms that could ultimately leave them with a glut of power relievers. The prototype was Tony Cingrani, and after that went *relatively* well, it seems the Reds have preferred this method of developing starters.
The bigger concern currently is the enormous lack of talent at AAA Louisville, which affected the '14 major league team when they suffered an avalanche of injuries. Thus, guys like Lutz, Soto, and Bernadina made unfortunate appearances.
A few thoughts on individual players:
YRod(?) needs at least a season at AAA and possible even AA before he's ready to contribute. Still very raw.
Corcino will make a nice bullpen arm. I feel his starting days are over.
Winker is far and away their best hitting talent in the minors. The Reds have not had success developing hitters the last few years.
Excited to see what Iglesias will do, wherever that is.
The contract itself will not sink the Marlins into the future. But here we have an owner of ill-repute signing his best player to a 13 year contract. (Let's ignore the dollars for now.) Loria is well-known for becoming easily disillusioned and discouraged from both bad play and bad attendance.
I think there is a better than average chance that the first time the Marlins face adversity as an organization, Loria will press ejection and try to deal Stanton to the highest bidder. Its kind of amazing that no one is mentioning how Loria dumped Reyes and Buehrle a year after signing them to huge contracts.
Thus, I think this deal will quickly become a farce with Loria eating big $$ to send him to NY, Boston, or LA. (Is there a no-trade clause?) Sam is talking about the 8th or 9th year; if I was a Marlins fan, I'd be worried about year 2. And so should Stanton.
It stands to wonder if the Rockies will ever solve their pitching problems.
I know this is going to get some negative votes, but ketchup on a hot dog should be outlawed. Its disgusting.
Great work, Sam. Johnny and Bryan Price came up with the twisting wind up due to his propensity for flying way open and landing a foot or more to the left of the rubber, as best evidenced on the giant picture of him on the Reds HOF building outside GABP. But he still had to learn to become a pitcher, instead of just the 95 MPH thrower he was when he arrived in 2008.
Johnny is the Reds best starter since...(Soto, Rijo?), but the Reds will need to consider trading him with heavy hearts this offseason. He'll justifiably want $125-150m after 2015, and the Reds badly need offense and can't afford yet another post-age 30 contract through 2020.
The Orioles have earned their success, but they may have one of the worst rotations for a 90 win team in memory.
Jay Bruce can only hope that health is to blame for an absolutely wretched 2014. Mental issues and the defensive shift may be more to blame.
Joey Votto is another great unknown next year. Fabulous year for the Reds.
Reds ask many of their players to do too much; Heisey starting in LF, Simon as a starting pitcher, Ryan Ludwick playing baseball...
His bat speed is so fast that the eye really can't detect it.
The long term mega-contract has become very prevalent lately with the play (or lack thereof) of Lee, Howard, Kemp, Votto, Fielder, etc. Even Kershaw's contract will probably be an albatross in five years. Baseball is generating so much revenue that they have to spend it somewhere, so 30 year old superstar FAs is where it goes. Otherwise the union would accuse baseball of collusion. The lesson in all this is to invest in your farm system every year.
Boooooo, booooooo!!!!!! (In a good way, of course.)
I noticed the Rasiel Iglesias signing by the Reds hasn't been covered yet. Is the staff waiting for the deal to be finalized when he gets to the States?
Where is Mike Zunino in this debate? Kidding!!!
Sam's Google search skills are as impressive as his writing.
FYI Partch is a righty.
FWIW, Winker is going to AA Pensacola this week.
Jesse Winker has been playing at High A Bakersfield in 2014.
Despite that zinger, let's add that Buxton and Correa are three and four years younger than Zunino, respectively.
Not really adding anything original, but it seems like Correa could be a superstar, whereas Zunino has yet to significantly hit anything over .220 above AA. Then again, I'm not a scout.
Well done, Russell. The internet is attempting to turn us all into drooling idiots.
I was surprised to see positive remarks about Ervin. Haven't heard if he has lingering issues, but .223/.288/.326 isn't good under any circumstances, especially for someone who is one month from 22 years old at Low A. Reds must be disappointed right now.
Sam is probably aiming for relevancy. Konerko and Molina are finished as hitters and are now backups. Billy Butler is a'ight but fairly anonymous. Ortiz is a good representative of the "unhook the wagon" club.
Its easy for me to criticize after the fact, but taking on $150-200m on a guy with Fielder's profile would necessitate a full battery of tests.
Also, don't ever, ever, ever trade with Dave Dombrowski.
While its tempting to sympathize with the Rangers over the Fielder injury, didn't the Rangers put him through a full physical and take x-rays, MRIs, etc? A herniated disc is generally pretty hard to conceal.
I'm a bit puzzled why Lively hasn't been promoted to AA. Ridiculous K/BB and he's 22.
With Zimmerman, LaRoche, Harper, Votto, and Bruce out last night, its no wonder the Reds and Nationals couldn't score.
In two of the three games vs San Diego this week, Billy Hamilton scored in his first at bat of the game and the Reds did not score afterwards. Such is life when you utilize Heisey, Bernadina, Cozart, and Santiago.
lol Old Hoss only pitched in 11 seasons but won 309 games.
Palm to Forehead season continues for the Reds. Should've won last night by five runs, but unfortunately they employ Heisey, Cozart, and Ludwick.
I wonder how many of the bad framings are due to cross ups. And with all the sophistication of technology now, you'd think umps would be better trained to discount for great (or poor) framing. The bad home plate ump (e.g., Laz Diaz) is still the most disruptive official in sports.
Credit to Peralta Friday night, but the Reds lineup was shameful. Heisey-Votto-Frazier-Bruce-Pena-Cozart-Bernadina-Santiago-Leake. Walt Jocketty's bench is sad, again.
Pence had hydraulics fused to his joints as a child, ala Wolverine. This explains the "praying mantis" movements.
For the 900th time, if the DH is ever established in the NL, no more of these articles. Remember that, Kingman lovers.
Is there any reason I can't just take them all?
Three pitchers in the top 20 disabled. Kershaw and Harvey not pitching right now either. A maddening inexact science.
Terrible luck for the Twins.
I respect PECOTA quite a bit. He's a funny guy and great at parties. But the Cardinals seem like a lock for 95 wins. Virtually zero weaknesses. So 88 seems like the low end. I'm a Reds fan, btw.
Great research, Sam.
I watched three of Hamilton's at-bats Wednesday night vs. LA. He was facing Ryu, so he batted RH. Gonzalez played on the edge of the grass at first. Hamilton pushed a bunt to Gonzalez's right, but Alex Guerrero had zero chance to cover first and Hamilton was safe without a throw.
After a bloop single with runners on in his second AB, Hamilton's third AB was with the bases empty. (There is a huge difference when Hamilton has runners on.) LA's infield shifted to where the 3B and Gonzalez at first were four feet in on the grass. The SS and 2B were even with the bags. That is an absurd shift for a leadoff hitter. So if Hamilton learns to make solid, consistent contact, he's going to be a terror.
After three straight 90+ losses seasons in a row, Twins fans deserve to be optimistic.
Rube Waddell was known to leave the mound to chase fire engines, so I don't know how that would apply to makeup.
Had Bailey's record been 17-6 or 18-5 last year, he would be getting $120m or more. Which is so stupid.
Probably the ground floor.
Sorry, forgot about Gregorius.
I think Zach Cozart is the only SS in their top ten in the last decade or so. Puzzling why the Reds can't sign or draft a good shortstop.
I've always felt that we should be EVERY player in the HOF and instead vote players out. See ya, Cap Anson!
That would be humorous if a team came to LAA and said "take whatever you want from the farm system. No limits."
From a Reds perspective: Votto, Stephenson, Latos, and Hamilton for Trout and Pujols.
The Pirates hit the jackpot with Liriano and to a lesser degree, Burnett. Can they continue to depend on long shots?
Stephenson is legit but 2015 is more realistic. Corcino had a disastrous 2013 at Louisville.
The Reds had Cueto, Latos, Bailey, Leake, Cingrani, and that's it. No other starters in Cincinnati or at Louisville. So Holmberg is needed insurance. Hopefully they find one more arm for Louisville.
I need to adjust my expectations of what a 4/5/swingman can expect in FA in 2013. $25m is apparently a worthy gamble on unreliable pitchers.
As a Reds fan, I do not like the Cardinals one bit. And yet, even I was irritated by their determination to keep using Kozma last year. Why do brilliant people do dumb things sometimes?
When you see Pittsburgh sign guys like Liriano or Jeanmar Gomez for very little, you wonder if its worth it to give someone like Vargas four years. I guess the rub is how often teams like Pittsburgh can turn water into wine.
I've yet to really see Stephenson in action so this was great. The Reds are obviously thinner in minor league talent than past years so Stephenson is integral to the major league team's success.
I will believe Ibanez is retired when he's wearing a coach's number and looking overly concerned with what's going on in the field.
As brilliant as the Cardinals FO is, I will never understand why they did not address SS during the 2013 season. Cards SS's were 0 for 18 by Game Seven of the World Series. Given the tight games and lack of hitting by St. Louis, you can make a good argument that using Kozma and Descalso at SS might have cost them a championship. Its a mystery to me.
But Peralta doesn't have Colon's hair. No one can replicate Colon wearing a hat.
I honestly envy baseball fans who are going to enjoy the World Series. As a Reds fan who watches St. Louis succeed seemingly every year, its admittedly very tough to watch at all. Enjoy.
Great season for the Pirates. Considering they started the year with a rotation that included WandyRod, McDonald(!), and Sanchez(!!), they came a long way. McCutchen, Marte, and Cole are three players that any team would love to have. I do think that they will need to nail FA signings again to win 90+ games in 2014. Clint had to ride that bullpen pretty hard and he can't expect Locke and Gomez to repeat their 2013 seasons again. But the future is bright.
Dusty's firing has really put the spotlight on what effect a manager has on his team's record. I'd love to see a WAR stat for managers. In other words, if my Knothole baseball coach was manager of the Cincinnati Reds in 2013, what would their record have been?
Baker's strategies and in-game skillz really didn't come into play until the Reds became a playoff team. His first two seasons (07-08) featured average teams with below average pitching staffs, so Reds fans were largely indifferent to the manager. It really wasn't until 2012 when Jocketty and Dusty worked together to build and start a lineup that was head-scratching and infuriating at times. Baker loves mature, versatile players whether they can actually play or not. Hence, Cairo, Valdez, and Cesar Izturis received way more at-bats in the last two years than they should. 2012 featured a leadoff problem with Stubbs and Cozart; in 2013, it was the two hole. Obviously, that wasn't all Dusty's fault. Jocketty made one signing during the entire 2013 season (Z Duke), deciding he liked what he had.
Perhaps the image that best sums up the 2013 was this: http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/stltoday.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/4/f2/4f21f47e-51ec-5ff2-8237-ba07e5063baa/521d7bcfe3995.preview-300.jpg
The base running and mental errors by the 2013 Reds lasted all season long. Dusty seemed to lose his players' focus shortly into the season and manifested itself in the last week. I keep reading about the respect Dusty commands; this seems ironic since I think respect for the manager was a major problem. His players liked him more than they respected his position.
Reds fans cannot expect the next manager to be the anti-Dusty. Cozart will still occasionally hit second and Chapman will still be underused. But at the very least, hopefully two Reds base runners will not be standing on the same base in a July game in St. Louis.
Most Reds fans knew this would be a funeral. Having lost their last five in a row, at home, having only lead for two outs over those five game, we knew it was going to be bad. I'll never accuse them of not playing as hard as possible, but I suspect the guys in red are glad to be done with baseball for the year.
...as evidenced by their effort tonight.
Having watched Phillips every day and closely following the team, I would guess that he is beat up head to toe right now. I don't think he's still recovered from getting hit on the hand in late May. Just my unscientific opinion.
Votto is a bit of a "guesser" at the plate sometimes. It leads to half swings or check swings that can make him look foolish. He's still not driving the ball as he did before he jammed his knee last summer in SF. That's what made him one of the top five hitters in baseball (if he isn't currently.) Despite his numbers, he's had a very frustrating year. By his incredible standards, at least.
How am I supposed to make fun of the Giants giving the Praying Mantis $90m if BP hasn't published their summary yet?
Very informative. For Stubbs's defense and the career of Gregorius, they (probably) get one year from Choo. Jocketty would do it again.
True. Hurdle was not afraid to yank starters early (Locke, Jeff) so the relievers threw big numbers of innings. Four Pirate relievers finished in the top 30 in innings pitched, and we're not talking long men like Gomez.
There's a pretty horrible vibe in Cincinnati right now. Cueto, Cingrani, Arroyo, Latos, and Phillips all have injuries or injury issues. The Reds right-handed hitters have been awful of late. Brandon Phillips has been sniping at Reds fans on Twitter and Ryan Ludwick attributed his own putridity to the lack of fans' enthusiasm during the five game losing streak at home. And more than anything, the Pirates are enjoying baseball right now. The Reds clearly are not. One game is one game, so anything can happen. Regardless who wins, I don't see either team advancing far. LA and St Louis are just too talented.
This article is making it awfully difficult for me to tweet in all caps after Logan Ondrusek strikes out three Astros in a row.
That game was hard to watch aside from Hamilton. He played almost all of 2013 as a 22 year old at AAA. Given that he was learning a new position at a new level, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for his poor numbers at Louisville. He hit .283/.324/.367 after the ASB, which was encouraging.
Ben is right that power pitchers are going to overwhelm him for awhile when he becomes a permanent major leaguer. I still see the Reds keeping him in AAA for at least a few months next year to give him more confidence; one game against Disastros pitching doesn't mean much. My hope for him is to be a faster Juan Pierre, although I don't know if he projects to hit that high for average. Worst case scenario, he's a 4th outfielder that terrorizes pitchers in close games.
Reds fans have been trying to figure out how to replace Choo about a day after they traded for him. If you have any ideas, please pass them along to Walt Jocketty. Just don't tell Dusty.
I doubted the Pirates all season as I looked over a roster of DFA's, castoffs, trade-dumps, and platoon players. Then they lost their unhittable closer to injury and their improbable 2.00 ERA starter to reality. And they traded for more platoon players to fill holes and used more than 25 pitchers this year. Yet despite all this, here they still sit in first place in September. You just never know in baseball.
I'd just like to point out that this article would not exist if the NL adopted the DH. Where would we be then?
My favorite guy to watch hit one out is Stanton. His power is superhuman yet completely organic.
So what you're saying Ben is, games with Angel Hernandez and Laz Diaz are going to be much longer.
Sometimes we're slightly embarrassed by its comical lack of nutrition, and yet I eat it anyway. Skyline is just a part of me.
The Yankees would truly be on the brink of disaster if not for their check book. They have 142 fewer total bases than their opponents but are six games over .500. While that's a general assessment, the Yankees are fairly lucky to be where they are.
I was hoping Hamilton could do a decent Juan Pierre impression. He's not yet 23, so writing him off at 22 at AAA is probably premature. Shifting from SS to CF is another possible reason for his struggles as he's learning on the job at a new level. That's the optimistic side. He's still only hitting .240 something with few walks and obviously no power. I see the Reds signing a guy like David DeJesus to fill in the CF gap next year with Choo most likely gone and Hamilton in need of another season at Louisville.
Oops, sorry Ben!
Nice work Sam. Having watched Devin Mesoraco for almost two years, I'm surprised he hasn't made this list for the wrong reasons yet. His inability to catch the pitch is stupefying sometimes.
Watching the Reds every day, I'd actually vote for a reliever or two. The 8th inning has been a disaster all year long and is really what is separating them from the Cardinals (in the standings, not talent-wise.)
You have to wonder if the Pirates' journeymen pitchers can hold up for an entire season. Grilli, Melancon, and Wilson all have ERA's near or under 1.50. The rotation of Burnett/Rodriguez/Gomez/Locke/Liriano is better than many, but its hard to see getting 180+ innings from those last three guys before the wheels fall. Maybe I'm wrong.
LOL indeed, Sam. Why do pitchers ever throw Sandoval strikes?
If Hamilton did nothing but beat the ball into the ground via grounders and bunts, what would his slash line be? The Reds are hoping he has just a bit of line drive power that could make him a star. As a Reds fan, I'm very much looking forward to seeing him daily but we don't know what we have yet.
My head is spinning. Nice work, Sam.
Joey Votto, not withstanding.
Chris Buckley and Terry Reynolds have done a very solid job in the last ten years. The Reds' drafts from 99-03 were horror shows.
Lindstrom probably has no business in the HOF, but it sounds like he was a great father. Good for his family.
Seattle's DH problem is going to be worse when they have to play in NL cities. Prepare for some strange lineups on those days.
Thanks for those GIFs, Sam. As a Reds fan, I've been thinking about those at-bats since October. I still have no idea how Scott Rolen missed that pitch and the one to end the NLDS two days later. Alas..
What the hell is wrong with Reynolds? He makes Ken Harvey seem coordinated. (By the way, I would love to see a best-of-GIFs of Ken Harvey. Especially when he fell behind the tarp.)
Wouldn't it be crazy if the Marlins won the second wild card and improbably raced through the playoffs to a World Series win? Oh, like that is totally impossible..
Aubrey Huff, Juan Uribe, Marco Scutaro, Andres Torres.....still trying to figure out how SF has two rings in three years.
Stubbs could only wish. The Reds gave him 3+ years without officially benching him once and he just got worse. As R.J. says, his swing takes forever and he seemingly swings through even poor pitches. Stubbs would have become a nice platoon player if being 6'4 didn't distract people from his hitting skills.
Special mention should go to Wilson Valdez, who not only doubles as the worst hitter in a major league uniform, but also someone who has 4 extra base hits- all doubles- in 187 PAs. By unofficial count, he has hit 2 baseballs to the wall all year. And he will probably be starting a few games for the Reds in the playoffs. Some things are beyond understanding.
If Hamilton moves to the outfield as rumored, almost no way conservative Walt and his farm directors allow Hamilton to get promoted before the end of 2013.
I'm sure this has been asked before, but how is the hit list compiled? Is it a weighted system, where we hypothesize that the Red Sox would be 20 games over .500 if they played in the NL Central or West?
What is mildly worrisome is the complete lack of talent/production at AAA Louisville right now.
Having traded Grandal, Alonso, and Boxberger for Latos, the Reds must have expected more from him than they've received so far.
Great research Ben. I've looked everywhere- including on BP- for current BABIP numbers for both pitchers and hitters. Is it on this site or anywhere else?
As a Reds fan the trade is clearly a disaster in hindsight. Mixed emotions for Hamilton because he's easy to root for but the Reds are left with nothing. And by nothing I mean Drew Stubbs's 225 k's.
That was probably the most exhaustive research ever done on Will Venable. Then again, the Padres deemed him "untouchable" (!) this spring so there's that.
I bet everyone would like to vote again in the NL Central with Madson out for the year. That's 2 or 3 wins gone.
And the rumor is that the Reds offer Cordero 2 year for $14m in November and he turned it down. So a little pride will probably cost Cordero more than $10m. For the Reds, sometimes its better to be lucky than good.
The $8.5m is reportedly $6m in salary and a $2.5m buyout with an $11.5m mutual option. If Madson has a great season the Reds will pick up the option and Madson will decline it for a long term deal. So the total cost will be $6m.
Slowey has the second worst name for a pitcher right now next to Homer Bailey.
Why are the Braves #1 over Philly?
The Reds are 0-10 at Colorado, Philadelphia, and Atlanta. That includes 7 one run losses, 4 extra inning losses, and two blown 6 run leads in the ninth.
I questioned the same thing and got booed off the stage. Sarcastically speaking I guess we can just rank all the AL teams and then all the NL teams.
Ok, I get that, but suggesting that the 60-60 A's are a better team than the Reds, Cardinals, and Giants would just be foolish. If they played in the NL East or NL Central they would not be making the playoffs. There are some bad teams in the AL West and Central.
I meant Blue Jays, White Sox, and A's. Sorry.
Why does Jay have the A's, Blue Jays, and A's ahead of the Reds, Cards, Phillies, and Giants? Maybe I'm missing the format.
Will Carroll is now the second person after Buck Showalter to pick the Pirates to finish ahead of the Reds. While the Reds are maybe an 80 win team, they have FAR more talent than the 65 win Pirates. Weird prediction.