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Say what you will about Machado, but at least he had the goddamn common decency to give him a reach around.
I realize this discussion happened years ago, but I just now noticed the response and all the pluses vs. the minus for my comment. Just google the question "did Barry bonds ever test positive" and you will see that I was correct. Not sure why so many people have a vested interest in distorting the facts on Bonds.
If you recall, the 3rd base coach came in and directly gave Baez the signs in his ear. Seemed to me he was trying to make sure Baez didn't miss the sign to squeeze.
Maybe it's just me, but you don't see the word spleen show up unless it is generally a terrible accident. Just ask <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=16941">Eric Davis</a></span>.
Just wanted to note this was a very entertaining read - kudos.
Would you prefer Cheater, Liar, Someone willing to have a friend go to jail to protect their reputation? His wife had a name for him: spousal abuser. I thought "not a great human being" was pretty damn generous.
I think you sell guy next to woman in front row way short. He seems to be the first to react positively to the event by raising his fist in either triumph or possibly a black power salute. The fact that he is looking down likely means he is also watching it on video or he is blind and senses what just happened before everyone else.
Piling on a little, Rasmus is at 1.5 <span class="statdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?search=WARP" onmouseover="doTooltip(event, jpfl_getStat('WARP'))" onmouseout="hideTip()">WARP</span></a>, while Gomez is at 1.4 with slightly more PAs.
Interesting that no one mentioned that Manaea did make the list - at #45.
"Mama Said Knock You Out"
Don't call it a comeback . . . .
He didn't say you had to be old, just old enough. Very few 5 year olds would get that reference. I can't speak to 6 year olds knowledge on this point.
Is it possible that some of these proposed punishments for the organization aren't even possible due to the CBA?
My "foul ball" came from the arm of <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=31732">Jimmy Gobble</a></span>. A bunch of kids were taunted him pregame in Philly. Towards the end of his warmup the same kids had the audacity to then ask him to throw them a ball. He pretended to throw them one and then pivoted he threw it right to me.
Not sure if this would be the cause of Rian's dentist having a Big Mac light switch cover, but my dentist was actually McGwire's dad. So maybe there's a connection.
I write this while waiting at SFO to board my plane for the second time this morning. Wish they'd hurry up and fix the plane because I'm supposed to be at Wrigley this eve and I've never been there.
In real life, you have the choice of adding Bryant, Correa or A. Russell to start your team. Who do you choose and how easy is the decision?
Do you rate Correa as a better fantasy prospect than Seager because he is more likely to stick at SS longer, or do you think he will also hit better than Seager?
Not sure what happened here. fawcettb is usually more well mannered when he posts at farmingprospectus.com.
Thanks. I realized as soon as I posted that was likely the answer for missing info. Appreciate the response and info.
I echo the comments above, but would have liked to also see a capsule review of Gsellman like you had for Reyes.
#10: Add an additional position that can only be filled by someone with rookie eligibility.
It really changes the dynamic of the top picks in your draft, especially in keeper leagues.
I was wondering when someone would bring up The Natural. A truly lousy flick. Should have been on the worst list. It gets my vote as the one Sam wouldn't allow. No other explanation for its not being included.
Last year, Yelich hit .317/.376/.444 against lefties in over 150 plate appearances. So it seems he might have already figured it out.
If only Eric Davis had had the health tool. He would have smashed ARod's power/speed numbers in both 1986 and 1987, if he'd had the same amount of plate appearances that ARod had (748 for ARod compared to 487 and 562 for Davis). Davis was at 27HR/80SB in 1986 and 37HR/50 SB in his abbreviated seasons.
For no other reason than to honor a friend (with the unfortunate male name of Merdyl) since passed, I post his "poem" from 1986:
Ode to Pedro (Guerrero)
Roses are Red
Violets are Purple
You broke your leg
No more tirple.
You seem to be forgetting that Machado hit Norris in the head with his bat not once, but twice (knocking him out of the game - and showing no remorse for his actions) just prior to Abad throwing at Machado. It was hardly a dead issue when Abad entered the game.
My bet is Josh Reddick.
I think you should take a look at the Trot Nixon play. He came pretty damn close to nailing Rupe in the head with that bat and Rupe was in no position to block it. I'd imagine it is possible to kill a person that way - not to mention all the more likely, bad injury scenarios.
For any other fans of Dock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vUhSYLRw14
Also there is a dockumentary that was recently screened at Sundance to positive reviews:
No No: A Dockumentary
No, I'm suggesting that had he hustled more in the field (or not let his ego get in the way of allowing his manager to play a clearly superior defensive player) they would have won. I assume without his bat they wouldn't have been in a position to win.
I'd argue that if you went back and watched that World Series you'd see several obvious Bonds failure to hustle plays that cost them that series - including an egregious one in game six. Sometimes relievers melt down because the fielders fail to make plays behind them.
I'd also argue that the only reason why Shinjo (their best defensive outfielder) was DHing was because Bonds (their worst) wanted to be in the field. So Bonds cost his team with his ego in adddition to his lack of effort.
My favorite and least favorite players of all time are an interesting version of this discussion. My favorite, Eric Davis, basically hustled his way out of baseball early and often due to the injuries he accumulated from busting his ass on the field. Barry Bonds, on the other hand, didn't hustle and was rarely injured, which certainly helped him break the records he did. It's very easy to argue that Bonds way of doing things led to a longer more productive career.
On the other hand, Davis is much loved (Bonds not so much) and has a World Series ring for his efforts. I'd argue that Davis's hustle and the leadership it showed vs. Bonds' lack thereof is the difference between one having a ring and the other not. There are alot of different things to balance on this scale.
"Maybe Bourjos’ instincts are no good; maybe he’s just no good at intuiting when an offspeed pitch is coming, or when a high fastball is coming . . . ."
This might also explain why he bats like Bourjos and not like Trout.
Which is a good reason why you should be very careful in the words you choose on this subject. Bonds did test positive for steroids.
I would also argue with regards to Bonds that I don't believe it is mere coincidence that they were titleless with him, as oppose to having won two in the short time since.
Funny, I traded for both Liriano and Grilli the day before Grilli got hurt. Cost me our league title.
I think Ozzie Smith would be the poster child for this type of player and he's in the Hall.
Personally, I'd love to see a round table discussion comparing all the shiny new shortstops bubbling up: Lindor, Correa, Bogaerts, Russell, Profar, etc. With maybe a consideration of how they might stack up against great SS groups from the past - like the Jeter, ARod, Garciaparra and then Tejada, period.
Somewhat unrelated - I've wondered for awhile at what point a batter must swing for it to be called a strike. What I'd love to see is a batter with a 2 strike count intentionally swinging and missing at a pitch that is clearly going to get passed the catcher - and then sprinting to first base. The problem is that it is rare that a pitch is so bad that the batter will know that there is no chance that a catcher will make the play. I assume that a super late swing (after you've figured out that the ball will get by the catcher) would be considered null and void for strikeout purposes. Still I'd love to see someone try it.
So now you want them to add glancing at their watches to the mix? ;-)
Just a guess, but maybe the umpire wasnt saying that Lohse's looks would cause Fairchild to call fewer strikes, but he was surmising that future umpires might not appreciate getting those looks.
So maybe he was just trying to be helpful for Lohse's future outings.
I've gotta echo this one. What a chump Johnson is.
I can't be sure of which article you are referring to, but I thought it likely it is this one by Steven Goldman: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=16105. If so, it does not say what you think it says - though I could understand how the sands of time might make you think so.
One clairvoyant quote: "If Braun is truly a cheat, he will slip up again."
Any column that includes clips from the Holy Grail and Aguirre is ok in my book. Love BP!
BTW interesting connection John Carter. You may have something there.
I don't have any stats to support this, but last year I wrote in the comments about having noticed that the A's young starting pitchers seemed to all have learned to throw real good changeups and that it was clearly one of the keys to their success. I was assuming it was an organizational focus.
I thought that part of Jarrod Parker's struggles early this year was getting away from his change. Although I wasn't sure if it was because he wasn't throwing it very well when he did. He seems to have ironed it out and is back to having success again.
"The true probability is either 0 or 1. It has to be—each party was either throwing at the other or wasn’t."
I would imagine scenarios where pitchers don't actually choose to hit a specific batter, but want to hit any batter, so they throw pitches more likely to hit batters without specifically targeting them. I.e., they want to get retribution while maintains plausible deniability, so they keep going inside until they successfully strike a batter.
I don't think that would qualify as 0 or 1 probability-wise, but would be dependent on how aggressively the pitcher was going about the task of getting his random victim.
I'm pretty sure the commenter is making a distinction between ability and actual results. He's saying that he has the tools to be as good or better than any of these guys, not that he necessarily expects he will be. There's a mound of difference between ability and results.
I'm disappointed Eric Davis didn't make the cut for someone above. Had he been healthy he would almost surely have been a HOFer. In 1987, we might have had a 50-50 season, and he almost certainly would have been the first to 40-40.
Also Norris did it off a lefty - Vargas. Crisp was almost picked off by Vargas which going back to the original article was referred to as his kyptonite (lefties not Vargas).
Well then there's Satchell Paige who said "One time he (Cool Papa Bell) hit a line drive right past my ear. I turned around and saw the ball hit his ass sliding into second."
"[T]he second he steps on a big league field he will be the fastest player in the history of the game."
Until he can turn out the lights and be in bed before the room gets dark ala Cool Papa Bell, he'll just be one of the guys.
There may be something to your remarks DD, but let's remember that the positive first hand comment that started this quest for knowledge came from a teammate and not the media. Also assuming SaberTJ is on the up and up, then there is another person with first hand knowledge from a completely different perspective that thought Inge was a pretty good guy. He can be flawed but still be a good guy and positive influence.
As an A's fan, who watched the majority of the games in 2012, I wouldn't be able to proscribe any numerical effect of any one player, but they sure did seem to be enjoying themselves. It seemed to me that there were others beyond Gomes and Inge who were leading the charge of good chemistry, including Crisp and Reddick and, of course, Bernie.
I solved your Scherzer problem last year by cutting him from my team after my yearly disgust with his BUS antics reached its peak. The moment I did that he quit bussing around. You're welcome.
A solid comment worthy of the plusses without it, but the Seussian reference was brilliant.
I just meant that some umpires might be more diligent in trying to apply what they learn from these reports in an attempt to improve their craft. While others might make less of an effort.
That's a pretty impressive improvement on the part of the umpires and certainly shows a general dedication to their craft. I would assume though, if the improvement really is due to PITCHf/x, that not all umpires would be as conscientious about using this tool and they would therefore lag behind the others in showing improvement. I wonder if the data shows who is doing their homework and who is not.
As we are on post 44, I think it's time to mention another brilliant OF defender: Eric Davis in the mid to late 80s. He had the speed and instincts and could get up, over the wall to rob potential homers like no one else at the time. He also would lay out to make every play. Of course, that was his downfall as he was always injured.
I'll admit to being a little confused by this also, as the WARP definition in the glossary refers to minor league players: "Essentially, replacement-level players are of a caliber so low that they are always available in the minor leagues because the players are well below major-league average." This doesn't read the same to me as "we take an average of what everyone else's bench players might have done." Russell also refers to "bench/minors/scrap heap" being involved in the reckoning of replacement level. Which leaves me wondering who all are thrown into the equation?
Thoroughly uneducated guess here, but is it possible that the reason you hang a curveball is because you aren't following through with your release with the same kind of velocity/snap as you would when throwing a good/great curveball. The extra effort that it takes to give the ball a good break would make you more likely to suffer injury. Whereas a hanging curveball which is more likely to end in the seats actually causes less stress on your arm.
Not exactly proof, but Kevin Youkilis recently claimed that he "will always be a Red Sock."
Personally I loved the setup discussion.
Really enjoyed the article, but the Hernandez piece seems like it qualifies for the winner of the which one is not like the others contest. Not sure that capsule belongs here.
After looking at the article Colin linked above, I would say that there are a number of other items on the negative side of the ledger when it comes to Mr. Cabrera's character beyond the drinking/driving issue.
Unrelated to that though, I do wonder whether the people claiming that looking at possible character issues previous to this year's regular season is unfair would feel the same if the actions were even more egregious. If in 2010 it came out that he had molested children (but was not convicted due to a legal technicality) while also claiming an affinity for Hitler's actions, would people not consider these issues in their 2012 MVP consideration? Character is character regardless of when you display the actions that show your true character.
I was thinking an interesting and fairly realistic scenario will be when a team has clinched a wild card (let's say Oakland) and faces one of two teams vying for their division title, with the loser getting the other wild card (let's say Baltimore and New York). Oakland might choose to basically forfeit their game(s), so as to face the team they weren't playing in the WC playoff. This would make perfect sense if the choice was between facing Sabathia or whoever the Orioles might throw.
Yes. It will be titled "Weekend at Bernie's III".
I went to this game - my 2nd ever at Fenway - and had an absolute blast. Due to the rain delays and dwindling crowd, it was easy to move about. So I got to sit on the Green Monster, behind home plate, in Ted Williams 502 foot home run seat and anywhere else I chose.
And as a Californian, I almost never get to see the grounds crew in full panicked action. So even that was fun. But it should have been noted in the article that even the grounds crew screwed up big time. Once they short-sheeted the infield and had to re-roll the tarp and do it again. Another time they inexplicably pulled the tarp off while the rains came down heavily, which only added to the game's length.
The only downer for me was learning that beer gets cut off at a certain time regardless of whether you've gotten to the 7th inning.
It seems that every A's pitcher coming up these days has an above average changeup. Not sure who is teaching it to these guys, but they deserve a raise.
I'd just like to say thank you! This is like X-mas for me. I've been wanting those lefty/righty stats added to the team tracker since its inception. Adding lefty/righty TAv is some much appreciated gravy.
If Bourjos is such a great defender, then why does he sport an FRAA of -3.7? I understand that defensive metrics are still not where anyone would like them to be, but if a supposedly great defender gets a negative rating then it seems like the stat is so inaccurate as to be useless.
Last year I was at a Pirates game (I was visiting so I have no idea if this is normal) and my friend pointed out that in front of the first row down the right field line were a bunch (10-15 maybe) of wheelchair bound people. Obviously the Pirates thought they were doing something nice for them, but we start musing on how dumb it seemed to place people who were more defenseless than the average person in a situation where even a non-handicapped person could easily get hurt. We were especially concerned that a quadriplegic (though we didn't know if any of them were) would basically be a sitting duck.
Well what do you know - the next inning a Pirates player hits a one hopper which hits one of them in the head. What's more it took quite awhile before anyone showed up to help him. It obviously had never occurred to management that this could be a safety issue. The guy seemed generally ok and stayed at the game, but he was definitely bleeding. Its decisions like these that make you wonder whether the Pirates will ever have what it takes.
Would you agree that the Posey/Cousins play likely led to Whiteside setting up too far from the baseline to tag out Utley? The ball clearly beats Utley, but Whiteside is not where he would be if he wanted to maximize his chance of making the play.
3. Actually I think that his reaction only shows that he thinks that he is out. This may have been because the ball beat him by a mile and because he made contact with the catcher (not necessarily with the catcher's glove). So what he might have assumed was glove on body contact may have been merely body on body contact.
I saw this happen in a run down play involving the A's where the runner was contacted by the non-glove hand of a fielder who only assumed he was out (because he was running away from the fielder), and so he started walking off the field. He was called out for taking a step towards the dugout not because he'd actually been tagged out.
So, at least in this case, the runner's reaction should not be considered definitive proof of the truth.
For an example of this, see the replay of Utley sliding into home for his inside the park homer. The ball beats Utley to the plate, but because Whiteside is not blocking the plate Utley is able to get around Whiteside's tag. I'm guessing Whiteside was instructed to position himself as he did.
Maybe the cooler temperatures in Seattle could have brought about the cooler bats. April was 4.7 degrees below normal, May 3.5, June 1.3 and July has been 1 degree below normal so far.
Great albums courtesy of the Pixies (and it is Surfer Rosa, as Jason noted). Well worth investigating.
I thought the biggest disappointment of the game was the Bryce Harper interview. Not sure if it was a deer in the headlights problem (understandable for an 18 year old but maybe less so for someone who's been in the limelight for awhile), an attitude issue (i.e. he couldn't be bothered to pay attention to the guy asking him questions), he's just not too bright, or some combination of these. I was hoping he'd be likable or at least interesting. Hopefully it was just an off night.
1. Barry Bonds was also able to hit a few homeruns I've heard, but he had trouble getting it back to the infield with his arm.
Frankly, what this shows me is that (assuming that SIERA is the new gold standard, and I'm willing to accept that) ERA, adjusted for park influence, has always been a damn good stat and was closer to reality than all the previous attempts to improve upon it.
This whole time I'm thinking, why hasn't anybody mentioned that he would have amazing value because you can stack your lineup with your best 8 or 9 hitters because you don't care at all about defense - and then the last poster touches on this. Of course, Gordon went too far because you can't field your whole roster this way unless you had 4 starting robots.
You've listed Pagan's splits vs. lefties. He has hit .308/.364/.456 vs. righties over the last three years, including a very respectable .316/.360/.488 last year.
Quite frankly this post seems like an experiment. Post something random and see how the debate shapes. Usually Will chimes in after his posts to discuss responses. Here he has, so far, been aloof even though his initial post is obviously vague.
Very excited about the righty/lefty splits - thank you. Do you anticipate adding this information to the Team Tracker feature at some point?
I would also love lefty/righty split data - expecially in the team tracker.
"McCoy is clearly seen rounding second base at full speed as the ball goes over the fence."
He's able to take Strasburg deep, and he's about twice as fast as the fastest player in the major leagues? I think I'd draft this guy over Strasburg.
Lefty/Righty stats in your Team Tracker.