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Well played. I figured I was missing something.
Am I crazy or do I not see two HOFers in that Royals draft? Maybe I missed <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=17698">Atlee Hammaker</a></span>'s enthralling acceptance speech.
Right on cue with <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/player_search.php?search_name=Bryan+Garcia">Bryan Garcia</a></span>...
Except for that pesky 30 mile stretch of Indiana!... (I kid, I kid. I can't believe people are complaining about this)
Great stuff. I have a question as I try to get my mind around the numbers. How does one get from <span class="statdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?search=FRAA" onmouseover="doTooltip(event, jpfl_getStat('FRAA'))" onmouseout="hideTip()">FRAA</span></a> Adj to FRAA for a catcher.
Take for example, Pudge Rodriguez. I can see that his career FRAA Adj (35.7) is equal to framing (-14.8) plus blocking (-5.7) plus throwing (56.1). How is his FRAA 140.5? Is that just a relic?
Hmmmmm... it seems the turnaround began around the time Hedges was called up. Maybe he learned something from being around a defensive whiz every day? Maybe he was motivated by it?
On a purely selfish level, I'm cool with the "White Male Big Ten Graduates" getting extra consideration.
I think it is interesting that you were more worried about the fairest way to choose the winner. I had almost exactly the same thought process and thought of going to the second tiebreaker about 10 seconds before you did. This was before the realization that there was $2K riding on the line.
What is interesting is that I presented this to a coworker who is the long-time commish of the office fantasy football league. The difference between how I presented it and how Sam presented it is that I mentioned the prize money up front. His response was simple: split the pot.
I wonder if "split the pot" would have come up if the prize money was brought up sooner, or if bragging rights would still be the main driver. I know I'm more focuses on bragging rights than anything, and I suspect Ben and Sam are the same.
"In September, there's a quirk in the rules that says that a minor-league call-up does not accrue MLB service time while he is on the roster."
I don't think this is true. That MLB service time still accrues; it just doesn't count toward rookie eligibility. It still counts toward arbitration, free agency, and the like.
Good ideas, but the one downfall I see is player development contracts. Colorado can invest $5M in a Hartford dorm facility, but what happens when after 2018 their AA affiliate is in Montgomery?
Anybody else having problems with the RSS feed?
(Goes to pick him up in fantasy and the author already has him owned)...
Honestly, I thought they were treated fairly. It was the overuse of the word "we," and the possessive feel. I just feel like I come to BP for baseball general knowledge. If I want to worry about the Red Sox or Yankees, I would go to ESPN. Too much crossover from the local sites to the main site could turn it into another ESPN. I will admit this is a slippery slope.
I don't like to criticize the entity that makes my morning commute enjoyable, but I think I speak for the fans of 27 teams when I say that fanboy debate episodes like this were a fear of mine when the local sites sprouted up.
Hmmmm... anybody else with a Droid and Dogcatcher having issues?
Good stuff Doug, but may I suggest not using Weather.com for rain probabilities? From BP Alumnus <a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/author/nate_silver">Nate Silver</a>'s book, The Weather Channel has a definite wet bias in their numbers. I'd suggest Weather Underground or the National Weather Service.
I thoroughly enjoyed this. Thanks.
I love going to the back fields to watch the Minor Leaguers at Spring Training. Multiple games going on, it's free, you can mingle with players, scouts, player dev types and pick their brains. I'm not an autograph guy. I think the only baseball one I've gotten in person was Jose Lima at a Toledo Mud Hens game in the mid 90's.
But one of my favorite things is watching those autograph hounds. The guys with a case full of binders that hound the team bus when the road team comes, hang out in the shade and don't watch any baseball for four hours before hitting the players up as they are leaving. I'd say Rule Number 11, don't be one of those guys, but they are so fascinating.
The Tigers went from September 2006 (Matt Stairs) to March 2012 (Kelvin De La Cruz) without a waiver claim. I wonder if that is the longest drought ever.
I took this up with Jordan (and BR) through Twitter, but I think Hernan Perez is still a rookie. Does anybody have any info to the contrary?
A short season reliever #9. It's like this team traded the farm away to keep a contender afloat...
I found "The Natural" to be awful.
Really, the only baseball movie I wouldn't argue with if it showed up on this list is Sandlot. Everything else is garbage.
My school paper used FOIA to post a salary guide every year, so it was pretty common knowledge what most of our professors made in a given year.
Additionally, I'm a civil service Government employee, and the pay charts we have are public record. Additionally, the public postings for our jobs give the grade, so it wouldn't take much snooping to figure out the salaries of my colleagues and me.
And holy #$*#, Anthony Molina pulled a Chad Curtis now?!?!?! Maybe he deserved with Christensen did!
Al Martin's Wikipedia page has a "controversies" section. The above incident, which I didn't know about, is listed third of the three, implying that it is the least important (they are not in chronological order).
The first is that he lied about playing football at USC. The second is that he spit out a bunch of sunflowers and offended some people because it looked like he vomitted. The last is that he beat his extra wife.
What this boils down to is that the only people who come across this stuff are the people like us who are already fully invested in the sport. Joe the Plumber or Karen the Accountant aren't going to know the stadium their family is spending hundreds of dollars to attend is paid for by taking tax money from things that actually help the public or that the left fielder beat his wife. If they can keep it from those people, that's what matters.
I've struggled with this as a Tigers fan, who was probably one of those Joe the Plumber types before I got the internet in 1999. It wasn't until Dmitri Young returned from his domestic abuse/drug issue in 2006 that I really felt this conflict. Then Miguel Cabrera had his demons come to life and I feel like a giant hypocrite calling out any athlete. Before having the information, I didn't know Luis Polonia had hooked up with a 15 year-old when I cheered him on, I didn't know Tony Phillips had major drug demons when I imitated his batting stance in T-ball. And then there's that Ty Cobb elephant in the room...
A lot of rambling there, it's a unique issue. Thanks for posting, as I had completely forgotten about the Martin and Christensen issues.
Question: how does the Indians/Royals suspended game play into their odds?
I read somewhere on Twitter that Cosart is represented by Casey Close, and that may have played into this deal.
Quick editorial note: Syndergaard was taken by the Blue Jays not the Mets.
Kris Bryant did not homer.
That's what I get for skimming at work...
Interesting: Lakey is still in the game as Director of Major League Scouting for the Phillies.
And... I forgot about Josh Hamilton in 1999, their first ever 1-1 pick.
Depending on how your define recent years, I would say that makeup hasn't been a major concern almost ever for the Rays. Delmon Young was drafted just five years after their inception. They signed Toe Nash from prison in 2000. 2002 draft? Elijah Dukes and BJ Upton were taken then.
I think we disagree on how quickly Gray will be ready. I envision a Gerrit Cole 2013 type season.
But if he goes out and shoves in his AA debut, which a lot of scouts expect him to do, will it not be too late at that point? Maybe I'm just used to a deeper league...
Also, I disagree with your Derek Norris notion, but may leave that for a podcast email.
Jonathan Gray comes to mind as a possible glaring omission.
Choosing hitters on a day to day basis. Some guys a lot better against ground ball pitchers, some guys a lot better against fly ball pitchers.
Pssst... Groundball/flyball splits. That's the key.
I see Castellanos wasn't really good on Sunday, however I didn't follow the game so he may have had some time off.
This is great.
A little bit of VBA scripting and you can probably get it on your own in excel if you really wanted.
... only makes it more negative. I see you already addressed this. Thank you.
Or... it's just that fielding is assumed to be constant, and the extra playing time
Good stuff, quick concern.
I was looking at Jurickson Profar's FRAA projections, and I see that his FRAA numbers get worse as the percentile increases. That doesn't make sense to me, and could be a bug.
I have this prediction that all statistics we have grown up with and the numbers derived from them will be obsolete in ten years. Who cares how many home runs a guy hits when you know the statistics of the exit velocity and angle of all of his contact? That seems like a lot more powerful information from a projection standpoint. Even more powerful than pitch by pitch data for pitchers.
Also, I'm inherently curious about the ability to foul balls off with two strikes. It seems like statistically savvy teams (Boston, Oakland) are the best at doing this, and maybe something can show up in the data that can look for clues as to what leads to that skill, if it is a skill.
Tons of data coming our way. Assuming it's free or cheap, this could be a lot of fun.
Called up 9/3, season ended 9/29. That's 27 days in the bigs during roster expansion, leaving 46 days during the 25-man days. He's no longer rookie eligible, but is, as I like to call it, BA Eligible, as they ignore the service time minimums.
This year at third base
But will be eligible
Miggy best at first
Most wins of the 80's is one that's been beaten to death.
Not working for me on Dogcatcher... Droid users have souls too!
"In fact, only the Giants and Cardinals have had fewer 30-plus stolen base efforts over the past 14 seasons than the Tigers."
There is a common thread between these teams over a good chunk of this time: the torch of best hitter in baseball has been passed between members of these teams over that time. Doesn't make much sense to steal bases in front of such players.
How does this tie into bonus babies and the start of the draft in 1965.
So does tWARP take into effect the value a player gets if he is traded again? It appears as if it doesn't (and the difficulty I have in quantifying that and gathering the requisite data is why my similar study isn't ready yet). If that is the case, a frequent trader, like a Billy Beane, will end up being underrated as it does not take into effect the value that player provides when cashed in. This also could be the reason that Ruben Amaro rates so highly: he tends to lock players up long term and so the full contribution of those players is accounted for, while Oakland's ability to cash in on guys like Dan Haren (which is still providing WARP in the form of Brett Anderson, Eric Sogard
What I do is total the WAR or WARP up of all the players traded and apportion the recieved WAR based on percentage provided to the other team. This is recursive, tedious, and not accurate for recent prospect trades, but it doesn't truncate a player's value when used later as a chip.
Good stuff! I've been trying to compile similar data for years. I look forward to digging into what you've done to see where we differ a bit. No surprise to see Dombrowski atop the tWAR list.
Bravo! Great article!
Psst... Nicolino is Marlins property...
Thanks. I had the column open for a while and the comment hadn't loaded.
What type of athletes are these? How many are pitchers? I would imagine, for example, that the strain on an athlete's UCL is different for a pitcher than for a first baseman or even a wide receiver or golfer (I mention golf, because Tiger Woods has a similar injury right now). While a general athlete may have high recovery rates, I could see that being much lower for pitchers.
Did Beachy graduate? He's not starting for a while after his setback. It seems as if he's still stashable.
The irony of moving him to the outfield to accelerate his development prior to him spending 2.5 years in AA and AAA just now sunk in.
Matt Tuiasosopo also comes to mind.
How have reports on Castellanos' glove been? I saw him in Spring Training, and he looked lost in left field. Has there been marked improvement in the area? When should he be an average defender? Could he hold down the position in the event of a rash of injuries to the Tigers' outfield?
As always, great stuff, guys.
Great stuff, every week!
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Didn't see this til this morning... Forwarded on to Tigers PBP guy, Dan Dickerson. I forget which pitch it was and if it was this one. Tough to remember pitches when listening on the radio.
You could make the case that the three Houston clubs have the three most forward thinking front offices in their respective sports. Rick Smith probably isn't up there with Bellichik and company yet. Lunhow still has a lot to prove to join the Beanes or Tampa Bays of the world too.
Alex Avila's framing has also been worth watching so far. He got Anibal Sanchez and company a ton of strikes on Wednesday.
I think there is language in the new CBA preventing guys in the minors from signing MLB extensions as a way to prevent circumventing the signing bonus rules. I'd have to check further after I leave the office...
So I think the 1 day delta is backward. I could be wrong though.
Now if the Royals would put Danny Duffy on the DL so I could pounce on one of these guys... Thanks, Paul.
If you want crack analysis from the backfields from last weekend, look no further: Matt Purke's mustache is at least a 7.
If Singleton starts in Oklahoma City, he will have to serve the suspension, correct? Or will they 40 man him to circumvent?
I can't help but notice that there are a couple of guys who've recently gone under the knife with Tommy John or other recent arm maladies in that list.
Carl Pavano: June 2012 Shoulder Sprain
Jake Arrieta: July 2011 Elbow Bone Spur
Colby Lewis: July 2012 Tommy John
Drew Hutchison: Summer 2012 Tommy John
Brandon Beachy: June 2012 Tommy John
Charlie Morton: June 2012 Tommy John
Vance Worley: September 2012 Bone Chips
Jered Weaver: September 2012 Shoulder Inflammation
I think you could very easily take a group of any 15 pitchers and come across guys who have recent injury. However, given your recent article looking for injury precursors, I figured I would bring up the possibility that guys who are unable to keep their effectiveness late into starts are possible injury threats. It would certainly make sense.
Quick correction, Boesch missed the end of 2011 with the thumb injury, not 2012.
Great stuff, Doug.
It's kind of fun to read this article with the BR Page open for the 1998 Mavericks. At a quick glance, there's only one Dominican pitcher on the team, and only one player older than 22 who had been in AA prior to this season.
This was addressed. The rankings were done before the injury.
45 days not including DL time or September time. Basically, 45 days on the active 25 man roster.
He's probably outside of the scope of this list, but since my brother always asks about him (they played legion ball together), I figure now is the time. Jared Hoying: any shot?
Don't forget Mickey Storey, who bounced from the Astros, to the Yankees, back to the Astros, and finally to the Blue Jays, who finally got him through waivers.
I actually thought the converse may be true. Perhaps a recent spike in velo could lead to ligament damage in the elbow. While everything else is strengthened, the ligament isn't and gives out. Danny Duffy comes to mind.
Colin, if you give them a better than 1/7 shot at winning the World Series, you don't hate my team.
So... I play Yahoo and have Wil Myers on my keeper team. Where does he slot in?
So the players who would still be on this list if not traded are... Rob Brantly, Jacob Turner, Brian Flynn, and Francisco Martinez. Add them and the list is better, still bad, but better and deeper.
Market inefficiency? The Tigers didn't get heavily involved in Venezuela until 2005 and now are one of four teams left. Now their system is being kept afloat by Venezuela.
He was 20 in AA in his second full season. If you are going to write him off after 340 plate appearances, go right ahead. But first I'd recommend talking to scouts to see if he was indeed over matched, or just going through the fatigue that guys his age go through this early in their careers.
Good to see Mark was able to finagle his guy Castro onto the back end of this list!
Lots of mention of the Venezuela pipeline in this piece. If that pipeline dries up as a result of the political climate, how screwed are the Tigers?
Two comments after listening. First, I agreed somewhat about your take on the PED issue, in that MLB has caught most of these guys. However, I wonder if there isn't a bit of selection bias here. The authors of the Miami paper redacted a ton of names where they didn't have proof. Perhaps the positive test allowed them to run with the Grandals and Colons of the world where they otherwise may have been redacted. Again, I agree that MLB is out front of this but gets dumped on unfairly.
Second, I'm not sure Durham is particularly special in turning players into utility guys. I've followed the Toledo Mud Hens pretty closely for the better part of 12 years, and have noticed the same thing. With roster limits of 23 or 24 in AAA, teams pretty much have their hands forced into extracting multiple positional flexibility out of the guys typically in AAA.
Did Jason Parks approve of this?
I'm betting because he doesn't really care about the Hall of Fame and there's an implicit point.
Great article! (nothing more to add)
I believe the lists are supposed to be different. I remember seeing it discussed in the Royals list.
They also plugged a hole at second base and swapped draft picks in the trade moving from late second round to late first.
Also, Turner isn't what we thought he was. Shoulder injuries have taken their toll.
Where would Meyer slot in your Twins top 10?
They lose the slot money.
Does this money count toward the luxury tax? Let's say the 2014 Yankees are on the ragged edge of resetting their tax. Could a deep playoff run push them over the edge?
AA Jacksonville is going to be downright loaded this year. I can't wait.
I think I was one of said emailers, haha.
I noticed that Laird was one of the worst framers in the studies released last offseason. Anecdotally, he was pretty bad this year.
I would love to see such a list for October outright free agents.
My main question here is: do we know that no teams have tried this? The Cardinals come to mind as a team that a) had forward thinking people in the front office and b) have had several late round draft picks blossom in the past couple of years.
This comes to mind: http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/deep-thoughts-mankind/1352106
What Sacramento said... Delmon Young has no business in the outfield.
I hate the Cardinals because they are bushbowl.
If need be, could Castro move to the left side of the diamond?
I'd be all for replacing him on a playoff roster with Brayan Villarreal.
The choice Leyland made in the 6th was Dotel vs. Moss or Coke vs. Carter. He made the correct choice.
I think Scherzer's injury concerns down the stretch are what led the Tigers to putting him fourth. He missed a couple starts with the shoulder problem and then injured his ankle in the clinching celebration. When he has pitched, he hasn't been dominant since before the injury. Between the uncertainty in his effectiveness and the possibility of resting him for the ALCS in the event of a clinch, I see no problems putting him fourth. Besides, he's pitching only one game: the same amount as Sanchez.
That's because 99% of the time when an infield fly is called, you don't notice because the ball is caught.
I'm going to respectfully disagree with the scout on the Tigers. They have plenty of pitching depth to absorb the loss of Scherzer.
I think it's a little misleading to use payroll lost as an indicator, especially vis a vis the Tigers. Andy Dirks missed two months, and Austin Jackson one month earlier in the year. Both guys are productive position players who make the league minimum. To a lesser extent, you can make the same case for Avila's injury. Doug Fister also makes the league minimum and is one of the team's more productive players.
They were also hurt somewhat by the fact that a lot of their injuries did come in the month of May and due to the cascade effect, they had to plumb the depths for Brad Eldred, Matt Young, and Bryan Holaday.
Hmmm... to ensure future financial security faced with no realistic option to increase revenues, the option was to pay down debt? Novel concept...
I would love to see them baseball-wide, not just team-specific. I also understand that would be a huge challenge.
I've known Mark for a while through online circles. Prospect knowledge? Definitely. Sex appeal? Notsomuch. Looking forward to the new coverage!
"You're talking two potential superstars,' said one National League scout who covers the Athletics." Kevin Goldstein?
This Tigers homer is quick to point out the deceptively young age of the team. Since the Fielder signing, seemingly everybody has cried that the team is set to win this year and this year only, but most of the regulars are below 30. Infante (31) and Peralta (30) are the only position starters or starting pitchers 30 or above.
Who's to say it was sexist and not ageist? To borrow the Mike Gundy reference, he was pronouncing himself to be a man, as opposed to a kid, as he was defending the vulnerability of his quarterback. It's possible that this incredibly stupid tweet was in reference to the fact that Yadier Molina wasn't a kid overpowered, not that he was a woman overpowered.
One more nomination: Mike Zunino
AL Teams had priority before the Dodgers.
Quintin Berry's bunt double is exactly what came to mind when I saw the headline.
.292/.408/.483 in the Cal League = ???/???/??? in the FSL? I've had this pet theory that Angels offensive prospects get overrated in A ball for a while now. Could Cowart be the next?
I know you hate fantasy questions, but if I had the top pick in a keeper draft and the top two available options next year were Mike Zunino and Oscar Tavares, would I have any reason to draft Zunino before Oscar?
I'm curious where the draft picks that swapped hands would swap in here... That's a bit complex, though.
How do you calculate WARP contributed to a team when summing up these trades?
For example, Bob Howry only contributed 3.8 WARP to Chicago, but he was traded to Boston for a package including Frank Francisco, who was then shipped off as part of a package to Texas for Carl Everett, who gave them some solid production for the duration of 2003 season.
There are probably more extreme examples: the Tigers' draft selections of Cam Maybin and Andrew Miller to name a couple.
Thoughts on Rob Brantly? He impressed in the game and seems to be working his way onto the prospect map.
FYI, Moya just had or is about to have Tommy John Surgery. As a result, I doubt he's in next year's Futures game.
Good stuff! This should be required reading for any of those people who watched the Moneyball movie, started following baseball and assume every manager/scout/front office exec is wrong, as they spout from their blog.
Just an aside, but Steven Moya was just put on the DL. I don't know how long he will be out or how much that would affect his tradeability, but he's out for the time being.
I'd like to see things go the other way: guys who didn't get much pub as a prospect but exceeded their ceiling: Ben Zobrist, Curtis Granderson, Ian Kinsler, Robinson Cano, Doug Fister, etc.
Take it for what it's worth, but the Tigers promoted James McCann from Lakeland to Erie, and Rob Brantly from Erie to Toledo this week, leaving Casali at West Michigan.
I can't find this answer anywhere. Do you still get a comp pick for not signing a pick?
This. And Francoeur isn't really much of an impediment in his own right. Try to shop Frenchy, and play Myers in CF in the meantime.
They may wait until late June or July to avoid Super 2 eligibility in the meantime though. There's no rush.
I saw the listener last week with the problem listening on his Droid. I have the same problem; anybody know the fix?
"A relatively new discovery, elbow-drag is difficult to see without hi-speed cameras, as the critical moment occurs in just a couple hundredths of a second."
My hunch from studying pitching mechanics a bit in college, is that almost everything needs to be analyzed with a high speed camera because of that small time when things peak and scouting mechanics is going to be largely ineffective.
Just a quick comment, but Daniel Schlereth had his option revoked and is on the MLB disabled list now. It may be worthwhile to include him on the list.
Yep... Nothing I said was inaccurate. Just threw in Brantly's AA performance to show off some of the Tigers' positional riches.
I saw Avi Garcia in the spring the last two years, and holy moley did he put on a lot of good weight in that time. Looks like the tools are finally starting to translate. Honestly, and I know this may contradict me saying he put on good weight, he resembled Miguel Cabrera quite a bit when I saw him.
That Lakeland team also has Tyler Collins, who could sneak up on some folks, while Rob Brantly is a 22 year old catcher putting up a .372/.417/.569 line in AA.
Good times and good info! Thank you!
They know it. Delmon is reluctant though. While it's easy for us on the outside to say "tough shit, DH," if a player bitches and moans and it affects not only his hitting but the play of others, it may be worth it to let him stink in left field.
Tigers have 40 man room and a revolving DH spot. Why not catch lightning in a bottle with Eldred on a short term basis?
Mickey Tettleton is upset at not being mentioned.
Pitch count rehabbing from some spring shoulder tightness.
I saw Moya in the spring, and it's a bit shocking that he's cut his K rate. He was whiffing up a storm in all three back field games (and BP!) I saw him in.
Yep... there's no rules for bat location, half way, etc. It's all 100% based on "umpire judgement"
Already signed up to make the trek down from Jax for the event... Now to wear the Tettleton jersey or not...
The same could be said for those with writing gifts and their political wisdom as well. Can't we all just be honest and admit that only those we disagree with are gasbags, and those we agree with are icons? Our world would be so much better off.
Shades of Conan O'Brien hates my homeland. I approve!
Wow, that age gap is very close to my actual age.
Whew! I can watch him in Jacksonville if he's still in the Minors when they come to town in a month, then!
Hey, minor typo, but I don't think Trevor Bauer is in the Orioles' system.
Where did the Tigers/Rangers 2011 ALCS rank. I'm still recovering from the stress of that series!
I'm curious to know who your guys will be this afternoon. There's not much in the system, but they have thrown a lot of money (relative to past years) in Latin American the past year or two that could start to show some fruit. There's also a ton of guys in the recent draft with interesting backgrounds that could portend some kind of latent abilities: Green, Smith, Collier, Robertson... Guys who were coming off of injuries or non-baseball issues before the draft that fell through the cracks. I'm curious how the system goes this year. They've overhauled a lot of the player development staff and have some intriguing young guys.
Having said all that, this is a system that doesn't need to produce too much in the coming years. The entire starting lineup and starting rotation is under 30. The core players are either signed long term or cost controlled. And despite a weak system last summer, they were still able to go out and acquire a temporary upgrade at 3B, a potentially dominant yet disappointing outfielder, and a pitcher who was the best in the American League after being acquired. All of that was acquired without tapping into Turner or Castellanos.
There may be a partial platoon with Ramon Santiago at second base.
Hahaha, I've got three of these guys (Soto, Johnson, and Cozart) on my dead last fantasy team and have been mulling over Soto and Cozart for the final keeper spot. It just goes to show how much the value on everybody on that team plummetted last year that they are all showing up as values.
Does Alburquerque's Zumaya-esque elbow injury factor into that 25+under rating at all? That seemed to have sapped his value this offseason.
As an aside, the Tigers entire starting rotation is under 30, as is their entire starting lineup except for Ryan Raburn, who turns 31 in April.
There's plenty of reasons to think that's a team that could implode, but age related decline probably isn't something that is going to open a window of opportunity.
Another list to possibly include would be Mark Anderson's (http://www.baseballprospectnation.com). You didn't have them in the last update, and I'm running a huge Macro at work right now that is tying up my excel, so I can't check right now.
I'd love to see the Top 101 25 and under...
I read the whole thing through the eyes of a dieheard Tigers fan and got to the Illitch mention at the end, and it felt like a punch in the gut.
Great article. I consider myself somewhat of an expert on roster rules, but my age kept me from knowing about the DL limits prior to 1990. It sort of puts to shame all of those already weak arguments about how more pitchers are getting hurt because they are spending more time on the disabled list.
How does Kyle Seager's possible shortstop eligibility play into things, if at all?
Would playing on a "Sprained Knee" for 2+ months have led to meniscus damage? ACL Damage? What was the nature of the August sprain?
Stevis beat me to it, but what about Mike Illitch? Is he grandfathered in?
JAson Beck of MLB.com says that somebody in the Tigers' front office told him the position player for position player and pitcher for pitcher requirement has been waived. Anything to that?
KG, talking with Mark Anderson, he has done nothing but rave over Rodriguez's recieving skills for the last year plus. Interesting that you two have a different take.
Sorry, can't subscribe to SXM... Ever since they moved Dibble to the morning it became unlistenable during the morning commute. Get rid of Dibble and I might re-subscribe, but in the meantime I found myself not listening to XM at all and had to cancel.
A few too many plate appearances, and he's a bit too old to qualify for the 25 and under list...
The best way to incorporate new stats is to bring in new, simple stats. Dan Dickerson, the Tigers' pbp guy, is an open "saber" and will frequently bring in little tidbits like pointing out how what a good k/ip or k/bb ratio is, and why that will portend success. He'll also cite a stat like how frequently a runner gets from 1st to 3rd on a single.
One recent example from another sport was Fran Fraschilla bringing up "Kenpom.com keeps track of fouls drawn, and he is near the nation's leaders." Again, a simple stat that just isn't kept by the mainstream.
How does Fields rank above Satterwhite in the rankings but below him in the under 25?
Seay has a minor injury of his pectoral muscle.
So which BP writer gets to rant on Selig\'s comments?
How is Snell a green? Is the elbow injury and ineffectiveness from last year so minor?
Is it fair to say I heard the same things about Hanley Ramirez three years ago, re: Andrus.
Was Clete Thomas considered?
Is there room in the MLB Network studios for Bob Costas\'s ego?
Griffey can\'t handle left field, and Jeff Larish stands to be a better DH option than him. Like I said last week, the Tigers can\'t afford to be throwing money around at these guys.
Too old. He\'s 26.
The Tigers can call Sheffield a sunk cost all they want. It still won\'t revive the automotive industry. They can\'t bring on excess payroll, period.
Also, the team never had a 40-man roster crunch throughout the whole season. After having several players out of options in the spring, they were under 38 for most of the season and it wasn\'t until September that any move necessitated a move to the 60 Day DL.
I believe there is something in the CBA prohibiting such a move, but I could be wrong.
Actually, he\'s at one year, 165. He was in the minors all year. The Tigers have their service time info here:
McBride\'s not arbitration eligible.
The key thing is that these teams have gotten where they are without the help of any big free agent signings.
What about Maddux for the first inning in game four so the Phillies load the lineup with lefties, and then Kershaw from innings 2 on?