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On another 2009 question, Sam, what was his repetoire like that year, did it mirror his career or did he hit on the right mix?
Trout also faced Chapman in the All Star game.
The best Angel outfield is Trout, Bourjos, and Hunter.
"OBP" is produced Mike Trout.
Just noting the Rangers top 3 are better than what the Angels had for theirs.
Morales hit a bases loaded single off the wall, not a SF.
It's the other World Series legend Gibson that manages the D-backs.
Awesome read. Loved the commentary on April 8th.
Jay, Vlad's career looks similar to Albert Belle's with the monster peaks. Vlad had more longevity, but Belle had the better peak - which has the stronger case based on numbers, ignoring the baggage?
Sam, I think you said it best with "could be". Really nice investigation, but what really intrigues me now is a comparison with the other two SoCal parks and how low they rank on this list. All have roughly the same climate and are all described as "expertly manicured", but SD is closest to the ocean.
I think you do have a point here, but it'd be nice to follow up with direct comparison's to Dodger and Angel Stadiums, which are ranked close to each other about 20th.
The Angels have a better chance of actually moving to downtown LA than going back to the Anaheim label.
The 6/17/01 game had even more drama I believe that carried over to the AL pennant chase and Spring Training in 2002. Apparently, Sele wasn't too happy about Klesko admiring that HR. However he didn't get a chance for revenge that year. Over the winter, he moved to the Angels and then faced off with Klesko in a spring training game in Tempe. He promptly drilled him in the top of the 1st. Well, the Padres would have none of that and drilled Troy Glaus in the bottom half. All of the sudden, on a carefree spring day, we had a real bench clearing brawl! Glaus and several others were suspended going into the season and the Angels got off to a poor start the year they won it all as a WC.
Ending the column on just another day of what makes baseball great with Mike Trout and Vin Scully says it all. Where can I get a Seawolves hat?
No I don't think Mark Trumbo is better than Albert or Trout.
But you can consider he's played 1B, 3B, and RF this year and he was also offered a scholarship to pitch at USC, so he'd be the best pitcher of the three. I'm sure Albert is a better 3B.
The 2002 Angels had to be in the low 30% range I'd guess. No star pitching and no one from that club will make the HOF which is a rarity for WS Champ clubs.
Tim Salmon hit 299 HR and is arguably the best player never to get to the All Star Game.
And incredibly besides his 7 no-hitters, Nolan Ryan through 12 one hitters.
Congrats on graduating! I'll also note I really like reading your column every day - it truly is what i need to know.
not to mention the Napoli-CJ twitter riff.
These were the two franchises that were the most discussed during the winter finally squaring off, after both have gotten off April in opposite directions.
Angels-Rangers? Starting off with CJ Wilson vs. Yu Darvish? How did that slip by?
Really liked your actions and descriptions of the Angel clubhouse, especially your insightful post-Mathis analysis and question.
Opening Day is alive and well - its when your team's Opening Day is.
Awesome study. This just included pitchers, right? As an Arizona State alum, I wasn't surprised we weren't close to the top for pitchers at the MLB level, but I can't wait to see a similar study for position players!
I heard Boston got a new manager. The guy is not too well known, and that franchise never gets much media coverage, so I can see why that definitely will not be a story the media covers in 2012.
Never mind, I misunderstood but then again ....David Ortiz DOES hit triples??
Joe Morgan didn't hit triples?? That shocked me.
If the Rangers win the West, it doesn't seem likely Pujols is the MVP.
Kendrys Morales should have gotten some attention too in the MVP race, even though he's just going to be a DH. He will put up a season like his last full year which got hom some MVP votes.
Best guess to where Taylor Lindsey lands in next winter's Top Prospet's list?
The unsigned/available list has somewhat of a correlation to Boras guys, eh? Coincidence?
Agree, Tony Womack had several memorable play off moments, some of them less than stellar like a dropped fly ball in 1999 vs. the Mets, but his 2001 exploits are part of a great WS.
Most of these guys had a day in the sun or two and its nice that they are remembered before going one and done with the HOF
Even as a lifelong Angel fan at age 51, the mention of Edison Field took a few seconds to route to the buried memory cells. Yes, you are quite unique.
Looking forward to the series - good stuff. As the first poster points out though, a hurt player like Ethier my gut tells me costs the Dodgers too. How much did his 2nd half poorer performance cost them even though he was playing?
As a lifelong Angel fan living in Phoenix and looking at the potential of Corbin and Skaggs, the book is far from closed on the Haren trade. While Haren has certainly been a plus and kept the Angels in the race the last two years much more than Saunders could have, the Halos still didn't get to October. I think it was a fair trade, not a fleecing.
Since this is a new look at an all too familiar "debate" (actualy Angel fans spitting venom about having Mathis instead of Napoli), I too would be interested in your analysis, Mike, overall, who the Angels would be better off having to use, including how Hank Conger ist starting off and projected to perform offensively.
I can think of no better test case than this team, especially how how Napoli's Rangers look to be taking the AL West this year by a slight margin - did the choice of catching in your view make the difference as most all of Halodom assumes?
That same year, Wells will still be an even bigger weight on the Angels
my mistake on setting up the rotation for the ADLS - there's enough off days that the Angels or Rangers can start the frontline that last series in Anaheim, then be ready for Friday Sept 30th ALDS Game 1.
Bob Cerv was forever immortalized in 61* as Mickey Mantle's and Roger Maris' room mate that season.
Billy Crystal made a notable gaffe in that movie however having him with the Yankees on Opening Day in 1961; in reality, he was an expansion pick for the LA Angels and was with them until May where he was shipped back to NY.
Too bad you left the Angels out, they would have been the easiest to write up with Weaver/Haren/Santana.
Or I guess I should say for me it'll be too bad if the Angels are left out.
One important factor you left out in either case was that last 3 game series in Anaheim. If the season is on the line, both the Angels and Rangers are likely to employ their front line starters, and could trash their rotation heading into the first round.
The Tigers, Yanks, and Red Sox will obviously be able to set the table as they wish.
Despite what Roenicke has done in Milwaukee, you have to give it to Gibson.
The Angels have been on a bad streak, but no one thought they'd be this close to the Rangers in mid-August in the first place. This is a fair criticism of management- Mathis and Wells are really inexplicable - but looking at the last 12 years, I wouldn't count Scioscia's Angels out in the future. He's shocked fans with jettisoning Rodney and Kazmir the first week of the season and have remained in the hunt this far playing plenty of kids.
Just curious how Nolan Ryan, pre Frank Tanana ranked?
Bourjos v. Trout. With Peter Bourjos in CF, you have to put Trout on a corner, right?
ok, I missed Brett being the other HOF in the Top Ten.
The fact that Ryan is the only HOF in the Top 10, an all-time legend that set records that will likely not be broken, that he was giving away about 20 years, no-hit the Sox the rest of the way, and Ventura was quickly subdued all adds up to the fact that this should be #1 - its certainly my most memorable one over the last 40 years.
Was it over too quick, too one-sided and not dramataic enough? All the more reason it is #1
Completely disagree with your Angels/Cron criticism. Only 9/33 players have evn signed and here you have a kid that's gotten way ahead of the curve in comparison by integrating into pro ball and is adjusting.
Well, ok, one point I might give you half credit for is that he doesn't belong at this level. However, staying in Utah and working with Kotchman who's the Angels's specialist at integrating first year pros suggest Orem is the best place for him, though the league itself certainly isn't.
I don't think the health is a concern either - surely the Angels aren't about to blow the kid's future, their investment and the 2012 season just to help Orem. Yes, it's time to shut him down now, but I'm glad they signed and played him in 2011. I bet 29 other clubs wish they had their first round choice signed and already had a good start like this.
I follow the Angels, with only cursory glances at the Dodgers, but if Robinson is their top hitting prospect after Gordon, really, what's he big deal? I saw enough of Gordon in LA in the MLB to know the Dodgers are in a bad state and saw some of Robinson too, and thought he had some promise, but really if Gordon's the better hitting prospect, then good luck with that, Mr. Robinson.
Jay, I don't think you have to fear Carlos Santana II on this one, and I grieve for you on that one, so I can't blame you for still having post traumatic stress about losing Trayvon.
Tim Salmon, the best player never to make an All Star team.
Most believe the best configuration is that Trout moves to left field, but Wells and Hunter aren't going anywhere, and Abreu's option for next year is about to vest so it's a bit crowded.
That doesn't even consider the possibility Kendrys Morales comes back and then having to find a spot for Trumbo's bat.
For 1., Willits would have been the conventional choice if they didn't think Trout was ready.
I think how long Trout stays depends as much as on how bad Bourjos is hurt. I could easily see him up for a cup of Joe as I could see him through October, the main issue is Hunter, Abreu, and Wells aren't going any where.
I'm sure glad I didn't get a Futures Game ticket!
Yes and yes
LF, not RF. sorry
Kendrick has made contributions due to his utility in RF and 1B. Solid choice.
In fact, they all are, but the most debatable is not listing Beltre. His signing in Texas instead of LA looks like what we thought it'd be, the difference maker.
This is a great group of Diamondbacks. While Towers deserves all the accolades mentioned here, let's not forget Kirk Gibson's role.
He doesn't have the history Towers has, but this move cannot be underestimated at this point and i'm believing Gibson is turning out to be a better manager than any one ever expected.
One thing I've been somewhat confused about all along and never had a chance to get an opinion from a writer before the draft, but maybe here's my chance. I live in the same general neighborhood as the Cron bros. in Phoenix so I've followed their careers since high school.
Kevin is a much, much better player at this point in his career than CJ was. CJ was a 44th round pick out of MPHS is just one of many data points that support this. Kevin on the other hand, just mashed in HS, and owns several AZ HS records, and justifiably went quite high in the draft and also has a scholarship from a good baseball program in TCU.
So since both are a few years away from The Show anyways and from what I can see Kevin has a higher ceiling, why wasn't he chosen ahead of his brother? The obvious reason would be that CJ could arrive to The Show a few years earlier, but really, is that such an important consideration when you look at the length of a career? As an Angel fan, I'd be much more excited about Kevin, even though he's younger. Thanks.
Joaquin Andajuar taught me how to answer any question life has to offer:
'You never know"
What round do you see Cron's little borther going in, who's ripping up AZ High Schools this year, hold the HR record for the state now, and whose team just won the State Championship?
Agreed, this is the most interesting piece I've seen on BP this year and one of the top ten easy. The trends within the year are I treating too.
Following the Angels, the early success of Weaver and Haren have brought back memories of Tanana and Ryan. I would love to see this graph for their entire careers. Ryan we all know about and imagine he was pretty flatlined his long career.
Less known to younger readers is the case of Tanana who had a blazer and flamed out by age 25, and I'm sure you'd see a sudden drop off circa 1978; however he re- invented himself and you'd win a few bets by asking which LHP won the most games in AL history
i think any discussion of the early season success of the Angels has to include something new about Scioscia - his desiciveness in jettisoning what wasn't working.
Kazmir - one start = gone
Rodney couldn't hold two games as the closer in the first series = Walden's been closing ever since without allowing a run
Wood the same in 2011 hitting .143 = DFA'd
Mathis the same in 2011 hitting .200 = Conger no getting the majority of the starts
These moves were all made with April about half over - this is really unusual for Scis who likes to stick with his guys and give them plenty of chances
Conger along with Trumbo weren't mentioned in the aricle as other unexpected offensive surprises - they too look like keepers that'll keep the Angels in the race.
I'd love to see a scouting report/comparison/draft status about Cron's little brother who seems to be having a more dominant HS career in AZ than his older brother.
I think it's at worth throwing out there Walden didn't give up a single run all spring; I'd guess this fact went into the decision too.
Surprised we see Alex Gordon yet no Brandon Wood yet?
I've always been intrigued about a straight up trade of the two - perhaps a change of scenery would do them both good. I still have some hope for Wood, but I always thought the Royals would never make the trade, but the Angels would in a heart beat.
I'd like to hear others thoughts about who you'd take now - Gordon or Wood?
Not sure you could do much better than Hank Conger on that one.
was out at Tempe today, weather was in the high 70's and Scioscia was teaching the minor league catchers about fielding bunts.
i really appreciate the article. As an Angel fan, I eagerly looked as much forward to Russ joining the team in the winter of 1992 as I did JT Snow (for Jim Abbott).
Of course, after he left, I didn't really follow him much, but as the years went by, I'd keep seeing his name pop up, and especially this past decade always had to do a double take and think to myself "Is this the same guy? yep, amazing he's still stuck around."
This article summed up my thoughts exactly and I also think you hit it on the nail wrt his personality~ must have been a good soldier to last this long.
I hope he enjoys his retirement and have wondered if the Angels could have used more of him in retrospect, seeing how long he lasted.
I can tell you when the Angels will stop performing above their expected record - when Mike Sciosica leaves. In the meantime, I hope y'all can get this figured out because its not just luck.
Overall, for an article that generally suggest the 'why's' not to write them off so quickly in 2011, you made all the right points but will add some others:
I think the addition of Wells was minimized and if he comes close to being a $17 mil/yr player (what is be bandied about as actually costing them after the trade)and thus has a season like last years, there's a reason he can get them to the front of the division.
Another one is easy to overlook for a sign of hope after this off season is front office management. Despite whiff after whiff, Arte will not let this team go down without a fight, as for better or worse, exhiited by the Wells trade. Another great example is how they went out and got Haren in 2010.
But your thesis is right Christina: just because 2010 and the off seasoon from hell devastated us fans, don't be so quick to say they can't be in the fight for the 2011 AL West flag.
yeah, bad deal for the Angels.....but as a fan and forced to look at the bright side, here goes. First, just ignore the contract - you have to - it stinks and is done.
That said, it does make them a better team for 2011. Napoli just wasn't going to play enough (sad to say) and Wells is an upgrade over Rivera. Outfield defense has always been important in the Angels ballpark and Rivera isn't a great defender.
That's all I got. Yep, Reagins was too desperate after they blew it in the FA market; we can only hope we get the All Star version of Wells, even if it still means he's a tremendously overpaid All-Star.
Jay, I'm wondering now how Tim Salmon looks v Bernie Williams. As a West Coaster, I have to think he's very close.
Count me as another voter for Bobby Grich.
Also, I met Albert Belle once after he retired and had a nice chat with him, mainly about LSU's run to the CWS one year. I came away thinking he was a pretty nice guy.
Jay, great series as 'always! I'll give you a break before next years candidates chances, but I bet the Kingfish, Tim Salmon will look better in comparison than Bernie Williams. Salmon was arguably the best ever never to make an All-Star team. I'm not saying he'll make the cut, but he's likely to be one of the best of next years newbies.
Wow 3B for the Halos is twice as much as the other four holes, and thanks for pointing out Callaspo isn't the solution eith
That was an interesting take, especially the DH call to go get one. The Angels seem to have too many of those types now, and after watching the OF defense the last few years, you'd understand why we are panting so hard as Crawford as our first priority.
bWood is maddening, what to do with him???
Wondering about Carlos Ramirez's progress compared to recent ASU alums, I'm not holding out too much hope for him. Compared to other Sun Devils from the 00's: Ethier, Buck, Pedrosia, Kipnis, et al (there are so many), he might be a good player but to be a ASU grad and still at Low A, he seems 'behind' his Tempe peers. I'm rooting for him as an Angel fan/ASU alum, but his trajectory isn't promising.
Kevin, I'd love to see a chart on the rate of progression for all ASU grads this past decade.
The Angels dominant era may be over, but the only thing in twilight in Anaheim is their OF/DH situation. Most of the other pieces are in place to remain competitive as conwell says
........and you have to give props to Vlad for this 'dynasty talk' starting this very year. Reversing decision that would have made things more interesting this September.
considering Upton's age (and talent), his only mention in the article in the "What Went Wrong" section struck me as 180 degrees off.
Going forward for the forseeable future, he's the strongest asset this entire organization has. Geez, at age 21, his comparable comps at age 21 include Hank Aaron and Willie Mays!
Neither abbreviate nor hasten works for me regarding the Angels in 2010. Like the Red Sox this year, or the Yankees in 2008, missing the playoffs in a single year is more like a 'blip'. Like those other two perennial AL powers, as long as you have a management team with a strong record of success in place like Scioscia/Moreno, along with a good revenue stream (not to mention a 4-team division), the Angels will likely be in the mix this next decade as they were the past one.
Granted, Texas will be there too for the forseeable future, as the Rays have risen with a solid enough foundation to prevent printing playoff tickets in the Boston & NY automatically every April, and indeed the Angels do have some offensive issues, they'll be playing in October more often than not I think this coming decade in the same manner one could predict Boston's not going away either.
Living in Phoenix but being a hardcore Halo fan, I've got a good look at this deal. I think the Angels did well, but to say that Saunders is "perhaps the most perfect symptom" of the Angels regularly beating their Pythagorean projection the last decade is a quote I'm highly skeptical of. Saunders W-L record I agree was a lot due to luck when you look at his peripherals as often pointed out here at BP and each season it was slowly catching up to him, but there's something more fundamental going on for the Angels to beat their annual 82-82 projections - it wasn't Joe Saunders.
As for the D-Backs side, again, it's a pretty solid analysis of what they're getting, but i disagree with one point and that's trashing Dipoto for making this deal. Assuming they had to move Haren for salary and future considerations, he was being heavily shopped so I'd give them credit at least for getting the best deal they could; you have to assume any and all pennant contenders for the next few years would have had SOME interest in acquiring him, so I'd surmise the Angels offered the best package and outbid several teams by offering the best fit. Yeah, it appears lopsided in the Angels favor, but you also have to assume Haren went at the "market rate".
You pretty much nailed one major Halo issue-Kaz. in my mind, the other big disappointment has been Wood, so I ask, which has had the greater negative impact on the Halo season?
every time Mathis has a start at C, it's a "story" for every writer, blogger, and poster with a keyboard who feels the need to point out how superior Nap is offensively.
Not calling you out spefically John because you report the facts above (besides, every one is doing this), but I trust a former 12-year MLB veteran catcher who has also won 900 games as a manager in 10 seasons, and won WS rings in both roles more than any body else, as to who to start at C each night.
I'm wondering about Frankie Rodriguez. As long as he continues to defy Will Carroll's predictions of injury implosion, he's piled up some good numbers in a relatively short amount of time and young age. How's he trending? And I'd agree with you a closer's trend is harder to predict, but I'd think he'd be the one young closer to be on the list. Thanks - great article!
as a Angel fan growing up, I was huge Nolan Ryan fan. I remember he once said as a youngster, he could not throw the ball the fastest in school, but he could out-throw everyone for distance.
really. How did he NOT make the starting OF???
Wow that was a lot more negtive than I expected it to be.
First off, this has been the healthiest the Angels have looked in pre-season in a long time. That's agood thing.
Next, to say the Angels are "bit older" kind of twists reality after you get beyond their OF/DH. Their starting IF are all young, on the upswing --- and 'green'. Same with their catchers. Saunders, Weaver, Santana, and Kazmir are all young too. Only Pineiro is over 30 and he's just 31 at that. Yes, their aged OF/DH is a concern, but that's the ONLY area wrt to age.
Finally, your last staement "now it's more good to average" doesn't mesh with their season ending results, considering 2008 saw their first 100 win team, and then last year they gave the eventual WS Champs a go in a 6-game ALCS (as close as the Phillies came) and most of the failure to get past the Yanks I attribute to inexperience and frankly, a psychological 'choke'. But sans the 2002 team, its as "good to great" 2 year run as they've ever had, and I'd gladly take a 100 win season followed by taking my chances in the ALCS EVERY two years.
I've already seen Ervin in ST and he looks fit and is throwing. You've hit and correctly called the obvious players with health issues - and agree they could be a serious issue, especially the OF - that's where they lack depth. Last year, they pretty much proved they had multiple options to plug holes in SP.
I was just expecting a more positive article overall. After all, it's the GREENEST team as well as one of the best runs of any organization this past decade.
The Angels are the greenest! Can't wait till the full report but it a tighter AL West this year, can that be a difference maker & add enough wins to make it four titles in a row?
as I'll thrown in the Halos home-gorwn SP too.
under "what have you done for me lately?", i looked at the Red Sox box scores from the last 3 games.
That team out west doesn't have a bad overall farm/scout system either (the one with the "W" in those last three Boston box scores), and they also have a decent, young homegrown, right side. Let's just check back in a decade - I'm biased but i still like Kendrick/Morales myself.
yeah, typical ESPN piece.
sorry, thought this was from jaffe. oops.
Agreed. Being an Angel fan, I'd be interested in seeing the delta with 2008 with the Mets and Angels in light of losing Frankie.
I think its too simplistic wthout considering the starters and relievers available to a manager too year over year. If your 'pen is an arson squad for instance, the best choice is to leave your starters in.
Jay - you write some of the best-ver pieces I read, but this one is premature i think.
i thought the key sentence in the article was that Peralta tried contact lens in the last month of 2006 and this improved his vision.
I'd surmise from that his eyesight was less than 20/20 to start with, so it can't reasonably stated this was due specifically to LASIK surgery itself. I mean, perhaps he would have shown the same improvement with staying with contacts or presrciption glasses (?)
I think to properly evaluate, you need data on players who wear prescriptive lens, THEN switch and have LASIK surgery.
Going straight from nothing to LASIK to me is just like going straight from nothing to glasses - it's obvious it'll improve tour eye sight and the ability to play ball.
Worse train wreck contract EVERYONE saw coming: Gary Matthews Jr. or Eric Byrnes?
Wondering where Jim Fregosi fits in at SS - I've thought he had some good arguments and he might be buried by the Larkin/Trammell combo.
3: Los Angeles Angels.
3 runs in the 9th to finally beat Boston in the play-offs
in the 3rd game for a 3-0 ALDS sweep
3 AL West crowns in a row
me too, exactly what I was thinking.
It's been widely published the Angels will have Ervin Santana in the pen, and I suspect other teams will also have an extra starter or two down there for round 1. Santana will be a big impact there - any other teams getting a 'wild card'?
Agree that HK cost them the series, but that\'s 20/20 hindsight. I would have made the same decision to go with him. But now in retrospect, everyone can say S. Rodriguez would have been the better player.
Howie is better than this - we all know that. He just choked. And I hope he stays healthy and proves what he can do next time post season comes around.
and that was the failure of the Angels the whole series - the failure to execute.
As appalling as the inability to get the extra base or clutch hit was (and Boston pitching does deserve a lot of credit for that), the defensive lapses were inexcusable.
Howie Kendrick overall had a terrible series and was the biggest reason, offensively and defensively they lost the series. Joe focuses a lot on Sciosc for some reason, but the greater fault is Angel players didn\'t execute.
the only thing that\'s consoling is that compared to past years, the Halos at least won a game and were competitive each night.
Joe, Frankie\'s lost one game, nearly lost another and we aren\'t even through one series yet, but as you suggest, it won\'t cost him a cent - surely the Mets will pay top dollar for him.
I\'m on the border line about playing Wood, but you are right - why put him on the roster if you aren\'t going to play him? The choice was between Wood and Sean Rodriguez, and I\'m glad he chose Wood and it\'s because of his bat. S. Rodriguez would have been a better replacement for Kendrick\'s defensively if he broke his hammy again, and offers more speed of the bench. And last night was a perfect example of why Mike likes to carry three catchers on his roster, but thank God this year, he knew Bobby Wilson wasn\'t ready. It worked out OK, but having Nap on 2nd in the 12th with the winning run wasn\'t exactly making me feel comfortable.
I see your point about removing Saunders in the 5th but i\'ll just disagree with that one. He\'s a guy I want on the mound.
And Papelbon also pitched a lot last night - he\'s the key guy in the Sox bullpen. Maybe Boston\'s pen is in better shape overall but i\'m glad Papelbon took most of the load last night.
Joe - good call on using Willits in lieu of Vlad late - that was a thought i hadn\'t seen elsewhere.
Vlad made a bad move, but i\'m also just as frustrated when the Angels failed to run. GA should have made it to third not stop at second, on a hit early in the game. Then as the announcers said, Hunter should have tried to steal 2nd in the 8th. Worst case would have been HK leading off the next inning if Hunter had been thrown out.
Vlad got two hits, but perhaps even worse than that was his swinging at the first pitch in the first inning with two on .... and popping up to right.
This is far from a done deal though. It\'s a new day.
yes opinions, you\'re right. Let me try again, Two of the last 3 AL Gold Gloves at 1B went to Texiera, Youk won last year and that was likely due to Tex being traded to the NL half way through the season. Yes, GG is subjective too, but it says something.
Figins had 6 errors and a 978 FP. Lowell had a lower FP and 10 errors. Figgins was a disaster last year at 3B but this year, he\'s been solid and the data is there to back that up.
Hunter has won 7 straight GGs too in CF. I\'d be shocked if Ellsbury wins one a GG over Hunter, and Joe stating Boston has the leagues best 1B is certainly subjective now that Tex is back in the AL.
Yeah, Boston may have better overall team defense, but my point is the gap isn\'t that great, ignores Hunter and Texieria, and downplays Aybar and Figgins in an abbreviated analysis. Plus, as Joe suggests Sciosc is replacing Vlad with GMJ for the series - that has to should too (despite tonight\'s error)
Joe good analysis overall.
Scioscia says today in the LA Times Vlad will DH all series and furthering that point, i think your underestimation the Angels defense was the weakest point of the article. So the Angels get GMJ in right, as you suggest. You can opine Youkalis is the better 1B, but might he play 3rd, and Tex is no slouch himself at 1st so there is not much gap if any at first.
At 3B, Figgins had a great season and his fielding stats are under the radar impressive. Like 1B, the Red Sox get the headlines at Catcher and CF, but Mathis and Hunter are very solid, though the running game edge has to go to the Sox admittedly.
\'ever-changing\' aptly defines the Angels middle infield, but Aybar can be spectacular and the Halos are back to their Opening Day roster. HK continues to improve at 2B, so i think the Angels are more than adequate \'up the middle\'.
To sum, I\'d call the defense even, and think you underestimate the Angels here.
Thanks for replying after three years. I know how to spell your name - obviously i\'m just trying to make my point with tit-for-tat needling.
Also, I recognize the need for coding and often see ANA for LAA and won\'t complain about that when rolling up stats. I see that often in other publications, but BP is the only place i see \"Anaheim Angels\" repeatedly used incorrectly.
And i also agree the responsibility falls on your editors and see \"Anaheim Angels\" by other BP authors occasionally, but your use is the most consistent and most obvious week to week.
I agree it is an editorial decision, but i expect the utmost quality of BP beccause its\'s baseball writers are some of the best. However, it should follow AP Standards, MLB, and the wishes of the organization itself, not Curt Pringle\'s nor the Angels rivals\' wishes nor disgruntled OC fans.
Your analysis is very good, I read it and as a paying subsriber, i recognize i have the opportunity to express my dissatsisfaction by not subscribing any more.
However, the inability to get a basic fact stated correctly taints a perspective right off the bat, especially written by an A\'s fan.
Having a public forum to express my view has served my purpose and I\'ve made my point. You are correct - this decision is for the editorial staff at BP.
I am a reader and greatly admire BP. However, please take the needling as only constructive criticism to further cement BP as a professional read.
I\'m sure there are plently of the Halosphere from OC thrilled you continue to call them Anaheim Angels, but Arte, the courts, MLB, and the AP have spoken - it is the \"Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim\", not the \"Anaheim Angels\".
Many franchises in many sports name their team a little off their geographical location but the St. Pete Rays or NJ Giants just are not seen anywhere.
I\'ve made my point and am confident the BP editorial staff is aware of this discrepancy, so I\'ll leave this at that.
Your basic premise is correct - the decision nis in their hands.
thanks for your consideration and hearing me out.
Kris Karl - it\'s been years now - they are the Los Angeles Angels. I\'m looking forward toi the day you either stop the petty refusal to acknowledge their correct name. or seeing you refer to your A\'s as the Fremont A\'s in a few years. Either one will do.
The Angels are keeping 10 pitchers and here\'s hoping Jepsen is one of them and not Speier. Wood would be a welcome addition, and Mathis/Matthews bring defensive value, Scioscia believes a lot in catcher ERA and welcomes Mathis.
Unfortunately, regardless of Josh Paul in 2005, Scios likes having a third catcher come playoff time. I\'d hate to see a roster spot given to either Budde or Wilson. I\'m looking forward to seeing Wilson in years to come in Anaheim, but Budde has more experience right now but offers little value. Budde\'s already been on an SI cover (Spring, 2003) and I\'m sorry to say this but he should be thankful for that moment, and just be satisfied to be the third non-25 roster catcher for his small window till Wilson/Conger are more seasoned. Willits will definitely be on the roster and it makes more sense to carry Morales than that third catcher.
Just want to agree and congratulate Will - this year\'s UTK was the best! i like this format.
otherwise though, a pretty solid analysis of LAofA so i\'ll give credit where it is due. Though I might give a little more weight to Matt Brown now, after Beijing.
Speaking of Beijing, Kevin Jepsen has had a solid debut so much so he might make the playoff roster. Either him or Bulger, another call up. Certainly not Speier, and that too iwarrants discussion but i won\';t fault you fot that since you did a thorough and solid job on the MI situation.
Kristine Carl, why do you insist on calling them the Anaheim Angels when almost all other professional baseball writers refer to their correct name, the Los Angels Angels? Do you find it humorous to intentionally call some one by something other than their chosen name? This smacks of being a petty blogger, not the professional integrity i usually see at BP.
Agree, these games still count. the only worst park to play it in would be Comiskey. Grossly unfair to anyone chasing the NL pennant.
Anywhere but Miller aka \'Wrigley North\'. Sure, it could be filled with cheeseheads rooting against the Cubs...... NOT!
The Angels were 3 back of the A\'s with 9 to play in 2004, yet won the division. How does that rate with the lists presented in this column?
yeah, one of your worst columns Joe. i\'m getting tired of every national sports writer trying to dimish Frankie\'s accomplishment - this piece was far from original and i\'ve seen it in various forms on many publications. (but tearing down heroes is what journalists do i guess). we pay for BP for fresh insight, not a rehash of the local fish wrap.
Take any record or HOF\'er, and we can diminish it with the \"yeah, but....\"
It wasn\'t the coffee JT, but probably that Frankie did #56 the day before against his Yanks and they are having a bad season.
not to mention they clinched it against Joe\'s Yanks.
Bad day for Joe, so to make him feel better, write a rant and discredit Frankie!
Been there, read that.
Don\'t get me wrong, i love Sun Devil Pedroia, but right now those might be \"Eckstein\" intangibles.
Hudson\'s huge loss was mentioned today at BP - Living in AZ, i\'m confident the \"X\" factor can get the Snakes to October, one way or another.
I\'ll leave it at that, time will tell. just thanks for your opinion! Internet debates and projections about 2 yr players don\'t have a lot of value. After all, Frankie\'s arm still hasn\'t fallen off (but i hope the Angels don\'t re-sign him).
thanks for mentioning Howie and your insight. i\'m guessing the exact same could be said of Aybar, so like you point out, you can\'t add anything if the Halos are tight-lipped. And now Figgy is out today with a \"bad elbow\". Geez.
Last year it was freak hand injurieds for Howie, its the hammies this year.
As for Pedroia v. Howie, not doubt Pedroia is an MVP candidate THIS year, while Howie hasn\'t played as much due to injuries. 2008 goes to Pedroia. But time will tell the next 10-15 years, and i see through my Halo more MVP-type seasons for HK in the next 10-15 years than Pedroia.
I think most GMs would trade Pedroia for Howie straight up. Both are fine ball players - Pedroia brings more \'heart\' along with skills, but Howie definitely has a better skill set and a lot of heart of his own.
going back, i see you mention GA and Willits troubles, but not a word about the Halo\'s middle infielders??
I think most JHalo fans at this point in the season would trade Weave, Willits, AND GA for one healthy Howie!
And while I\'m at it, would would you rather have the next 15 years at 2B: Pedroia or Howie? I\'d take Howie without question (even with the bad hammy), and though I hate the Red Sox, I\'m an ASU grad, so if you say Pedroia, I won\'t hold it against you.
Well Will, you finally got Weave, but unless i missed it, nary a word about Howie and Aybar? They are much more important to \"Red October\" than Weave. Wood is coming around, but having him and S. Rodriguez up the middle in October? (shuddder!) I can live with Wood, but two left hammies need to heal!