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This is great, but I do still miss HACKING MASS
I'm trying to picture the Hawkeroo embracing advanced metrics.
"That's a hangwifum and a bad break on your BABIP"
"STREETCH, or it'll hurt your VORP!"
"Dadgummit, that's a black mark on your FIP"
Nope... not happening. Sigh.
The one from my childhood I can't shake is Tito Landrum from '83. The White Sox were in the playoffs for the first time since my Dad was my age, and had won the division in a walk. I was so sure there was no way the Orioles were going to beat the Sox pitching. With Lamarr Hoyt, Rich Dotson, Floyd Bannister and my personal favorite Britt Burns starting, the Sox couldn't lose.
And in game 4, Burns was proving me right. He went into the 10th scoreless, and just a baserunning goof from Jerry Dybzynski away from having already won. The first Oriole batter in the 10th inning was Landrum, who promptly deposited one into the upper deck seats of old Comiskey park. My hopes were as crushed as that pitch, and it would be 22 more years before the Sox made the World Series.
So one of these is pretty clearly Kevin Goldstein, now on the other side of the phone call, isn't it? My bet, KG's the last guy voting for Trout.
Fox posted a graphic on Saturday showing the only guys to ever do it were Ruth and Mantle. Nice company to be in.
I think there's also a higher value to anyone if they have never caught or picked up or been handed a ball before despite having gone to hundreds of games since 1976. Not that I'm speaking from personal experience or anything, but I'd have a hard time giving up my first home run/foul ball/whatever in over 30 years of baseball games.
Not Jim Tracy may be the greatest recurring character in the history of the world.
Brett and Schmidt went back to back at 29 and 30 in 1971? Wow. Have 2 Hall of Famers ever been picked back to back in other cases? And how often have that many teams passed on two hall of fame players in a single draft?
That's the scene of that and many other late 80's early 90's crimes, yep.
Great article, thanks for making me think about my bragging moments. So far my personal highlights would be Mike Trout smoking a double against Peoria (and Hak Ju Lee making an impossible throw from deep short in the same game) and Uncle Tupelo at a little bar in Champaign. Pretty sure I can't pick between them at the moment.
Why did you cut off the value at 10 years? Just curious, it's an interesting look.
First season that popped into my head was Bullet Bob Tewksbury in 1992. His player card here shows a higher VORP in '93 though, which doesn't pass the sniff test to me.
It's an interesting thought exercise, and I completely disagree with your conclusions. Yes, there's more money involved, but baseball players are still essentially the same type of people they have always been, some intelligent, some not, some colorful, some quite dull. For every Mark Fidrych in the 70s there were dozens of guys like Dave Rozema that just pitched. And today for every dozen Matt Cains there is a Brian Wilson and a Tim Lincecum.
I think there are just as many out there characters today as there were in the 70s, they're just covered differently.
We have much greater access to players mundane and very occasionally profound thoughts on Twitter. Following guys like Brandon McCarthy or Logan Morrison have given a fan a much greater understanding of the quirks a player has than a piece by even the sports writing greats could put together in the 70s.
Rougned Odor may be my favorite minor leaguer name.
Hoping for the next one to be "Really crappy baseball movies". 1) The Babe 2) The Slugger's Wife 3) Mr. 3000
despite the fact that I was an extra in it, no one should ever choose to see the John Goodman movie "The Babe". Goodman has one of the worst swings ever filmed, and couldn't hit a ball out of the infield in reality.
Who... gonna hit... my INVITE PITCH! A very underrated baseball movie, good call.
I think the name you guys and Jay were struggling to come up with while discussing the hitter with proper credentials that everyone thinks is probably clean coming up on a HOF ballot shortly is Frank Thomas.
I was one of those people arguing with Greg (and Dave Kirsch and others) about Jack McDowell's ability to pitch to the score on r.s.bb. back in the 90's. I'm sure Greg would not have known me from any of the other random people making those points (I really didn't post much and still don't), but he was among those who made a giant impact on the way I think everyday. Greg's posts about pitching to the score made me question what I thought I knew about baseball, and made me rethink the way I looked at everything. Those debates changed me in a fundamental way, and I'm a better person for having crossed his path, if only virtually. RIP Greg, and thanks BP for the remembrance.
And Ramadan was in August...
I just want to point out my hipster cache small number.. that is all.
If anybody wants to find the Victoria at Wrigley, it's available (at least...) on the main concourse on the 3rd base side near the entrance to section 14. They're kinda expensive at 7 bucks, but hey, it's great ballpark beer.
Been looking forward to it all week
Looking forward to the Sparky Anderson hype section of the list, Chris Pittaro, Chris Brown, Barbaro Garbey
Can you count Bo Jackson as his own cartoon superhero? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaiUL5Z7NlI
I had to look up the specific date, but the most surprising, and probably best pitched game I was ever at was a Darryl Kile start in Coors Field September 10 1998. He gave up 2 hits all day, a horribly cheap drag bunt but Luis Castillo in the 3rd, and a positively punished triple into the gap by Todd Dunwoody in the 9th. Until that Dunwoody smash nobody had even been close to making solid contact, and everyone around me was supremely peeved at Castillo for ruining our no-no potential.
My guilty pleasure guy is probably Britt Burns. I'll always remember the 9 shutout innings in the ALCS in '83, and still hate Tito M-F'in' Landrum for hitting the solo shot to end our World Series dreams
He was in yesterday's list...
"talented totem pole of top tossers" would have been slightly more alliterative, don't you think?
I'd probably be in for any, but the patio party sounds like the most unique experience, plus you get closest to the field there
Where would Strasburg land?
he\'s only a teenager, and will in all likelihood spend the entire year in the minors
I dunno, the White Sox could really use a utilitarian to cover second and third. Can Mill hit more than .240?
A Chicago feed\'s long overdue.
White Sox: Don\'t be afraid to break the bunch up, this was a fun year, but it felt a little lucky. Find a 3B, let Swisher play center, and see if you can move one or two of Dye, Konerko or Cabrera. And get another starter.
How about something that makes the White Sox system look better than it actually is...