KEN HILL
Born 12-14-1965
Bats R Throws R
Real Stats, No DT
Ken Hill Born 19651214 Age 44 Bats R Throws R Height 74 Weight 175 No DT, Real Year Team Lge G GS IP H ER HR BB K GB% DERA W L SV H/9 HR/9 BB/9 K/9 NERA PERA LFRA SIERA DLH DLR STF RAR 1985 Gastonia____ SAL 15 12 69.0 60 38 5 57 48 -58 4.96 3 6 0 7.8 .7 7.4 6.3 6.65 5.81 5.13 5.13 -8 6 26 3 1986 Gastonia____ SAL 22 16 122.7 95 38 4 80 86 -58 2.79 9 5 0 7.0 .3 5.9 6.3 3.74 4.39 4.61 4.66 -16 -9 42 27 1986 Arkansas____ Tex 3 3 18.0 18 9 0 7 9 -67 4.50 1 2 0 9.0 .0 3.5 4.5 5.00 4.15 4.56 4.57 0 2 21 3 1986 Glens_Falls_ Eas 1 1 7.0 4 4 1 6 4 -51 5.14 0 1 0 5.1 1.3 7.7 5.1 5.14 4.51 5.34 5.30 -3 0 20 1 1987 StPetersburg Fla 18 4 41.0 38 19 2 17 33 -51 4.17 1 3 2 8.3 .4 3.7 7.2 4.17 4.29 3.85 3.77 2 -1 17 5 1987 Arkansas____ Tex 18 8 53.7 60 31 1 30 48 -61 5.20 3 5 2 10.1 .2 5.0 8.0 5.53 5.13 4.28 4.30 9 2 12 3 1988 Arkansas____ Tex 22 22 115.3 129 63 7 50 107 -58 4.92 9 9 0 10.1 .5 3.9 8.3 5.93 5.42 3.96 3.97 16 7 10 14 1988 St_Louis____ NL 4 1 14.0 16 8 0 6 6 69 5.14 0 1 0 10.3 .0 3.9 3.9 5.79 4.67 5.03 5.01 1 2 1 1 1989 Louisville__ AA 3 3 18.0 13 7 1 10 18 -50 3.50 0 2 0 6.5 .5 5.0 9.0 4.00 3.66 3.82 3.66 -1 1 14 5 1989 St_Louis____ NL 33 33 196.7 186 83 9 99 112 60 3.80 7 15 0 8.5 .4 4.5 5.1 4.21 4.33 4.97 4.90 4 -3 8 36 1990 Louisville__ AA 12 12 85.3 47 17 6 27 104 -48 1.79 6 1 0 5.0 .6 2.8 11.0 2.11 2.29 3.04 2.69 -6 -2 36 34 1990 St_Louis____ NL 17 14 78.7 79 48 7 33 58 46 5.49 5 6 0 9.0 .8 3.8 6.6 5.61 4.68 4.40 4.32 4 8 -2 8 1991 Louisville__ AA 1 1 1.0 0 0 0 0 2 -88 .00 0 0 0 .0 .0 .0 18.0 .00 .00 1.64 .99 0 0 30 0 1991 St_Louis____ NL 30 30 181.3 147 72 15 67 121 48 3.57 11 10 0 7.3 .7 3.3 6.0 3.77 3.72 4.59 4.45 -15 1 13 41 1992 Montreal____ NL 33 33 218.0 187 65 13 75 150 56 2.68 16 9 0 7.7 .5 3.1 6.2 3.14 3.45 4.27 4.25 -9 -8 19 61 1993 Ottawa______ Int 1 1 4.0 1 0 0 1 0 -38 .00 0 0 0 2.3 .0 2.3 .0 .00 .73 5.56 7.71 -3 0 2 2 1993 Montreal____ NL 28 28 183.7 163 66 7 74 90 56 3.23 9 7 0 8.0 .3 3.6 4.4 4.12 3.82 5.11 5.09 -14 6 20 40 1994 Montreal____ NL 23 23 154.7 145 57 12 44 85 57 3.32 16 5 0 8.4 .7 2.6 4.9 3.55 3.92 4.71 4.72 -14 -6 22 35 1995 Cleveland___ AL 12 11 74.7 77 33 5 32 48 59 3.98 4 1 0 9.3 .6 3.9 5.8 4.34 4.70 4.42 4.45 3 -3 14 14 1995 St_Louis____ NL 18 18 110.3 125 62 16 45 50 57 5.06 6 7 0 10.2 1.3 3.7 4.1 5.79 5.65 5.31 5.44 -6 2 -1 8 1996 Texas_______ AL 35 35 250.7 250 101 19 95 170 49 3.63 16 10 0 9.0 .7 3.4 6.1 3.95 4.55 4.35 4.30 -5 -17 27 51 1997 Tulsa_______ Tex 1 1 5.0 2 0 0 1 3 -45 .00 0 0 0 3.6 .0 1.8 5.4 .00 1.18 3.96 3.92 -2 -1 14 2 1997 Anaheim_____ AL 12 12 79.0 65 32 8 39 38 49 3.65 4 4 0 7.4 .9 4.4 4.3 3.87 4.07 5.40 5.45 -18 -2 19 14 1997 Texas_______ AL 19 19 111.0 129 64 11 56 68 55 5.19 5 8 0 10.5 .9 4.5 5.5 5.59 5.78 4.89 4.91 5 -2 4 8 1998 Cedar_Rapids Mid 2 2 7.3 7 1 0 1 6 -58 1.23 0 0 0 8.6 .0 1.2 7.4 1.23 3.55 3.72 3.81 1 -2 12 2 1998 LakeElsinore Cal 1 1 4.0 5 3 0 5 2 -54 6.75 0 0 0 11.3 .0 11.3 4.5 9.00 8.80 7.27 6.90 0 0 -28 -1 1998 Anaheim_____ AL 19 19 103.0 123 57 6 47 57 54 4.98 9 6 0 10.7 .5 4.1 5.0 5.24 5.71 5.08 5.10 12 -5 3 7 1999 Anaheim_____ AL 26 22 128.3 129 68 14 76 76 52 4.77 4 11 0 9.0 1.0 5.3 5.3 5.05 5.48 5.15 5.13 0 -6 0 9 2000 LakeElsinore Cal 1 1 4.0 5 2 0 1 3 -59 4.50 0 0 0 11.3 .0 2.3 6.8 4.50 5.55 4.12 4.35 1 0 5 0 2000 Charlotte___ Int 1 1 4.0 6 2 0 0 7 -62 4.50 0 0 0 13.5 .0 .0 15.8 4.50 5.15 2.25 1.83 3 0 17 1 2000 Edmonton____ PCL 2 2 9.7 14 7 4 8 5 -35 6.52 0 0 0 13.0 3.7 7.4 4.7 7.45 12.05 6.20 6.44 0 -5 -29 -3 2000 Anaheim_____ AL 16 16 78.7 102 57 16 53 50 48 6.52 5 7 0 11.7 1.8 6.1 5.7 6.75 8.01 5.30 5.27 14 -11 -19 -7 2000 ChiSox______ AL 2 1 3.0 5 8 0 6 0 37 24.00 0 1 0 15.0 .0 18.0 .0 24.00 12.79 10.84 9.58 1 4 -97 -4 2001 Louisville__ Int 6 6 31.3 33 16 4 12 16 -51 4.60 2 1 0 9.5 1.1 3.4 4.6 5.46 5.20 5.25 5.37 -2 1 -1 3 2001 Pawtucket___ Int 8 8 31.7 42 23 5 11 17 -52 6.54 2 1 0 11.9 1.4 3.1 4.8 7.67 6.74 5.11 5.24 1 3 -9 -2 2001 Tampa_Bay___ AL 5 0 7.3 10 10 4 5 2 58 12.27 0 1 0 12.3 4.9 6.1 2.5 13.50 11.48 6.78 6.36 -2 2 -41 -4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Majors 32 30 193.6 190 87 15 83 115 53 4.06 11 10 0 8.8 .7 3.9 5.4 4.46 4.63 4.81 4.78 -4 -4 12 -4 Minors 37 28 170.1 155 75 10 87 139 55 3.99 9 9 1 8.2 .6 4.6 7.4 4.77 4.73 4.31 4.29 -2 1 21 31 Totals 33 30 186.7 180 84 14 84 121 53 4.05 11 10 0 8.7 .7 4.1 5.9 4.53 4.66 4.69 4.66 -3 -3 14 31Regular DT
Ken Hill Born 19651214 Age 44 Bats R Throws R Height 74 Weight 175 Regular PDT Year Team Lge G GS IP H ER HR BB K GB% DERA W L SV H/9 HR/9 BB/9 K/9 NERA PERA LFRA SIERA DLH DLR STF RAR 1985 Gastonia____ SAL 15 12 68.0 76 56 10 53 27 -52 7.41 2 6 0 10.1 1.3 7.0 3.6 7.41 6.51 7.14 6.38 -8 6 16 -10 1986 Gastonia____ SAL 22 16 119.3 125 61 13 71 51 -52 4.60 6 7 0 9.4 1.0 5.4 3.8 4.60 5.37 6.54 5.90 -16 -9 34 5 1986 Arkansas____ Tex 3 3 17.3 21 12 1 7 6 -62 6.23 1 1 0 10.9 .5 3.6 3.1 6.23 5.23 5.83 5.42 0 2 17 0 1986 Glens_Falls_ Eas 1 1 7.0 5 4 1 6 4 -48 5.14 0 1 0 6.4 1.3 7.7 5.1 5.14 4.69 6.62 6.19 -3 0 14 0 1987 StPetersburg Fla 18 4 38.3 46 26 6 19 26 -47 6.10 1 3 1 10.8 1.4 4.5 6.1 6.10 6.25 5.44 4.95 2 -1 -1 -3 1987 Arkansas____ Tex 18 8 51.7 68 40 4 32 33 -57 6.97 2 4 1 11.8 .7 5.6 5.7 6.97 6.54 5.61 5.20 9 2 4 -6 1988 Arkansas____ Tex 22 22 110.7 143 88 14 58 75 -54 7.16 3 9 0 11.6 1.1 4.7 6.1 7.16 6.53 5.27 4.90 16 7 -2 -6 1988 St_Louis____ NL 4 1 14.0 17 10 1 6 6 66 6.43 1 1 0 10.9 .6 3.9 3.9 6.43 5.29 5.15 5.12 1 2 -1 0 1989 Louisville__ AA 3 3 17.3 15 10 2 10 15 -48 5.19 1 1 0 7.8 1.0 5.2 7.8 5.19 4.55 4.66 4.36 -1 1 10 2 1989 St_Louis____ NL 33 33 196.3 213 111 18 98 113 60 5.09 10 12 0 9.8 .8 4.5 5.2 5.09 5.22 5.14 5.01 4 -3 7 18 1990 Louisville__ AA 12 12 80.3 59 26 8 29 84 -45 2.91 6 3 0 6.6 .9 3.2 9.4 2.91 3.21 3.63 3.15 -6 -2 30 25 1990 St_Louis____ NL 17 14 79.7 85 55 11 33 60 46 6.21 3 6 0 9.6 1.2 3.7 6.8 6.21 5.23 4.56 4.43 4 8 -3 4 1991 Louisville__ AA 1 1 .7 1 0 0 0 1 -83 .00 0 0 0 13.5 .0 .0 13.5 .00 2.00 2.05 1.28 0 0 27 0 1991 St_Louis____ NL 30 30 179.3 162 91 22 67 118 47 4.57 10 10 0 8.1 1.1 3.4 5.9 4.37 4.32 4.77 4.59 -15 1 12 29 1992 Montreal____ NL 33 33 219.0 210 97 23 79 147 55 3.99 13 11 0 8.6 .9 3.2 6.0 3.86 4.26 4.50 4.43 -9 -8 17 43 1993 Ottawa______ Int 1 1 3.7 1 0 0 1 0 -36 .00 0 0 0 2.5 .0 2.5 .0 .00 1.27 7.24 8.05 -3 0 -2 1 1993 Montreal____ NL 28 28 184.7 181 101 13 78 87 54 4.92 10 11 0 8.8 .6 3.8 4.2 4.73 4.38 5.38 5.28 -14 6 17 23 1994 Montreal____ NL 23 23 157.0 154 68 15 46 77 53 3.90 10 7 0 8.8 .9 2.6 4.4 3.84 4.24 5.02 4.93 -14 -6 19 28 1995 Cleveland___ AL 12 11 76.7 82 38 5 28 48 59 4.46 5 4 0 9.6 .6 3.3 5.6 4.23 4.52 4.57 4.56 3 -3 12 13 1995 St_Louis____ NL 18 18 113.7 132 75 18 46 42 53 5.94 5 8 0 10.5 1.4 3.6 3.3 5.86 5.68 5.65 5.67 -6 2 -4 3 1996 Texas_______ AL 35 35 258.3 245 102 20 84 172 50 3.55 18 11 0 8.5 .7 2.9 6.0 3.48 4.00 4.48 4.40 -5 -17 26 57 1997 Tulsa_______ Tex 1 1 4.3 2 0 0 1 2 -42 .00 0 0 0 4.2 .0 2.1 4.2 .00 2.10 5.47 5.01 -2 -1 8 2 1997 Anaheim_____ AL 12 12 82.7 65 33 7 36 36 50 3.59 5 4 0 7.1 .8 3.9 3.9 3.38 3.58 5.55 5.54 -18 -2 18 16 1997 Texas_______ AL 19 19 114.3 127 64 12 52 66 56 5.04 6 7 0 10.0 .9 4.1 5.2 5.12 5.26 5.03 5.00 5 -2 2 11 1998 Cedar_Rapids Mid 2 2 6.7 9 2 0 2 3 -52 2.70 1 0 0 12.2 .0 2.7 4.1 1.35 5.37 5.53 4.99 1 -2 2 1 1998 LakeElsinore Cal 1 1 4.0 5 4 0 5 1 -49 9.00 0 0 0 11.3 .0 11.3 2.3 9.00 8.89 9.50 8.08 0 0 -51 -2 1998 Anaheim_____ AL 19 19 103.7 124 57 6 45 54 54 4.95 5 7 0 10.8 .5 3.9 4.7 4.86 5.33 5.18 5.17 12 -5 1 9 1999 Anaheim_____ AL 26 22 129.7 137 75 14 68 73 51 5.21 6 8 0 9.5 1.0 4.7 5.1 4.93 5.31 5.40 5.29 0 -6 -2 7 2000 LakeElsinore Cal 1 1 3.7 6 2 0 1 1 -54 4.91 0 0 0 14.7 .0 2.5 2.5 4.91 7.16 5.89 5.51 1 0 -9 0 2000 Charlotte___ Int 1 1 3.7 7 3 0 0 5 -58 7.36 0 0 0 17.2 .0 .0 12.3 7.36 7.30 2.72 2.24 3 0 11 0 2000 Edmonton____ PCL 2 2 9.7 15 8 4 8 3 -33 7.45 0 1 0 14.0 3.7 7.4 2.8 7.45 12.04 7.56 7.29 0 -5 -43 -3 2000 Anaheim_____ AL 16 16 81.0 108 61 13 47 48 47 6.78 3 6 0 12.0 1.4 5.2 5.3 6.22 7.34 5.54 5.43 14 -11 -22 -7 2000 ChiSox______ AL 2 1 3.3 5 8 0 5 0 37 21.60 0 0 0 13.5 .0 13.5 .0 18.90 10.68 10.98 9.66 1 4 -99 -3 2001 Louisville__ Int 6 6 30.0 35 22 5 15 10 -48 6.60 1 2 0 10.5 1.5 4.5 3.0 6.60 6.18 6.46 6.12 -2 1 -13 -2 2001 Pawtucket___ Int 8 8 31.0 43 26 6 14 10 -49 7.55 1 2 0 12.5 1.7 4.1 2.9 8.42 7.30 6.27 5.96 1 3 -21 -5 2001 Tampa_Bay___ AL 5 0 8.0 10 10 4 5 2 58 11.25 0 1 0 11.3 4.5 5.6 2.3 11.25 9.76 6.98 6.52 -2 2 -43 -4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Majors 32 30 193.6 198 102 19 79 111 52 4.75 10 11 0 9.3 .9 3.7 5.2 4.62 4.78 5.01 4.92 -4 -4 10 -4 Minors 38 29 170.1 191 109 20 92 99 51 5.78 7 11 0 10.1 1.1 4.9 5.3 5.81 5.78 5.74 5.25 -2 1 11 4 Totals 33 30 186.7 196 103 19 82 107 52 4.99 10 11 0 9.4 1.0 4.0 5.2 4.90 5.01 5.18 5.00 -3 -3 10 19Peak (Age-adjusted) DT
Ken Hill Born 19651214 Age 44 Bats R Throws R Height 74 Weight 175 Peak PDT Year Team Lge G GS IP H ER HR BB K GB% DERA W L SV H/9 HR/9 BB/9 K/9 NERA PERA LFRA SIERA DLH DLR STF RAR 1985 Gastonia____ SAL 15 12 74.3 67 42 7 41 43 -58 5.09 4 4 0 8.1 .8 5.0 5.2 5.09 4.40 5.12 5.12 -8 6 8 8 1986 Gastonia____ SAL 22 16 127.7 113 47 10 57 71 -56 3.31 9 5 0 8.0 .7 4.0 5.0 3.31 3.89 5.06 4.97 -16 -9 19 27 1986 Arkansas____ Tex 3 3 18.7 18 9 0 5 10 -68 4.34 1 1 0 8.7 .0 2.4 4.8 4.34 3.49 4.12 4.23 0 2 16 4 1986 Glens_Falls_ Eas 1 1 7.7 4 3 1 4 6 -53 3.52 1 0 0 4.7 1.2 4.7 7.0 3.52 2.87 4.46 4.66 -3 0 14 2 1987 StPetersburg Fla 18 4 40.7 42 21 5 15 32 -50 4.65 2 3 1 9.3 1.1 3.3 7.1 4.65 4.79 4.30 4.12 2 -1 11 3 1987 Arkansas____ Tex 18 8 56.0 61 31 2 25 46 -62 4.98 3 3 2 9.8 .3 4.0 7.4 4.98 4.62 4.04 4.11 9 2 12 5 1988 Arkansas____ Tex 22 22 116.7 134 74 12 48 93 -57 5.71 5 8 0 10.3 .9 3.7 7.2 5.71 5.23 4.26 4.20 16 7 13 10 1988 St_Louis____ NL 4 1 14.3 17 10 0 6 7 68 6.28 1 1 0 10.7 .0 3.8 4.4 6.28 4.90 4.91 4.91 1 2 -2 0 1989 Louisville__ AA 3 3 18.3 14 8 2 9 19 -51 3.93 1 1 0 6.9 1.0 4.4 9.3 3.93 3.46 3.72 3.57 -1 1 25 5 1989 St_Louis____ NL 33 33 199.0 209 106 17 94 120 61 4.79 10 12 0 9.5 .8 4.3 5.4 4.79 4.92 4.88 4.83 4 -3 11 25 1990 Louisville__ AA 12 12 82.0 56 24 8 26 87 -46 2.63 7 2 0 6.1 .9 2.9 9.5 2.63 2.84 3.28 2.89 -6 -2 47 28 1990 St_Louis____ NL 17 14 80.3 84 54 11 32 62 46 6.05 3 6 0 9.4 1.2 3.6 6.9 6.05 5.05 4.42 4.33 4 8 13 5 1991 Louisville__ AA 1 1 .7 1 0 0 0 1 -82 .00 0 0 0 13.5 .0 .0 13.5 .00 2.18 2.22 1.40 0 0 31 0 1991 St_Louis____ NL 30 30 179.7 162 90 22 66 119 47 4.51 10 10 0 8.1 1.1 3.3 6.0 4.36 4.28 4.73 4.55 -15 1 20 30 1992 Montreal____ NL 33 33 219.7 209 96 22 79 149 55 3.93 14 10 0 8.6 .9 3.2 6.1 3.81 4.21 4.46 4.40 -9 -8 21 44 1993 Ottawa______ Int 1 1 3.7 1 0 0 1 0 -36 .00 0 0 0 2.5 .0 2.5 .0 .00 1.27 7.24 8.05 -3 0 -14 1 1993 Montreal____ NL 28 28 184.7 181 101 13 78 87 54 4.92 10 11 0 8.8 .6 3.8 4.2 4.73 4.38 5.38 5.28 -14 6 17 23 1994 Montreal____ NL 23 23 157.0 154 68 15 46 77 53 3.90 10 7 0 8.8 .9 2.6 4.4 3.84 4.24 5.02 4.93 -14 -6 18 28 1995 Cleveland___ AL 12 11 76.7 82 38 5 28 48 59 4.46 5 4 0 9.6 .6 3.3 5.6 4.23 4.52 4.57 4.56 3 -3 16 13 1995 St_Louis____ NL 18 18 113.7 132 75 18 46 42 53 5.94 5 8 0 10.5 1.4 3.6 3.3 5.86 5.68 5.65 5.67 -6 2 -3 3 1996 Texas_______ AL 35 35 258.3 245 102 20 84 172 50 3.55 18 11 0 8.5 .7 2.9 6.0 3.48 4.00 4.48 4.40 -5 -17 29 57 1997 Tulsa_______ Tex 1 1 4.3 2 0 0 1 2 -42 .00 0 0 0 4.2 .0 2.1 4.2 .00 2.10 5.47 5.01 -2 -1 7 2 1997 Anaheim_____ AL 12 12 82.7 65 33 7 36 36 50 3.59 5 4 0 7.1 .8 3.9 3.9 3.38 3.58 5.55 5.54 -18 -2 17 16 1997 Texas_______ AL 19 19 114.3 127 64 12 52 66 56 5.04 6 7 0 10.0 .9 4.1 5.2 5.12 5.26 5.03 5.00 5 -2 7 11 1998 Cedar_Rapids Mid 2 2 6.7 9 2 0 2 3 -52 2.70 1 0 0 12.2 .0 2.7 4.1 1.35 5.37 5.53 4.99 1 -2 -1 1 1998 LakeElsinore Cal 1 1 4.0 5 4 0 5 1 -49 9.00 0 0 0 11.3 .0 11.3 2.3 9.00 8.89 9.50 8.08 0 0 -43 -2 1998 Anaheim_____ AL 19 19 103.7 124 57 6 45 54 54 4.95 5 7 0 10.8 .5 3.9 4.7 4.86 5.33 5.18 5.17 12 -5 5 9 1999 Anaheim_____ AL 26 22 129.7 137 75 14 68 73 51 5.21 6 8 0 9.5 1.0 4.7 5.1 4.93 5.31 5.40 5.29 0 -6 4 7 2000 LakeElsinore Cal 1 1 3.7 6 2 0 1 1 -54 4.91 0 0 0 14.7 .0 2.5 2.5 4.91 7.16 5.89 5.51 1 0 -13 0 2000 Charlotte___ Int 1 1 3.7 7 3 0 0 5 -58 7.36 0 0 0 17.2 .0 .0 12.3 7.36 7.30 2.72 2.24 3 0 29 0 2000 Edmonton____ PCL 2 2 9.7 15 8 4 8 3 -33 7.45 0 1 0 14.0 3.7 7.4 2.8 7.45 12.04 7.56 7.29 0 -5 -35 -3 2000 Anaheim_____ AL 16 16 81.0 108 61 13 47 48 47 6.78 3 6 0 12.0 1.4 5.2 5.3 6.22 7.34 5.54 5.43 14 -11 -10 -7 2000 ChiSox______ AL 2 1 3.3 5 8 0 5 0 37 21.60 0 0 0 13.5 .0 13.5 .0 18.90 10.68 10.98 9.66 1 4 -74 -3 2001 Louisville__ Int 6 6 30.0 35 22 5 15 10 -48 6.60 1 2 0 10.5 1.5 4.5 3.0 6.60 6.18 6.46 6.12 -2 1 -9 -2 2001 Pawtucket___ Int 8 8 31.0 43 26 6 14 10 -49 7.55 1 2 0 12.5 1.7 4.1 2.9 8.42 7.30 6.27 5.96 1 3 -17 -5 2001 Tampa_Bay___ AL 5 0 8.0 10 10 4 5 2 58 11.25 0 1 0 11.3 4.5 5.6 2.3 11.25 9.76 6.98 6.52 -2 2 -37 -4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Majors 32 30 193.6 197 101 19 78 112 52 4.70 10 10 0 9.2 .9 3.7 5.2 4.58 4.73 4.97 4.89 -4 -4 14 -4 Minors 36 27 170.1 168 87 16 73 117 54 4.59 9 8 0 8.9 .9 3.9 6.2 4.62 4.60 4.68 4.54 -2 1 14 26 Totals 33 29 186.7 189 97 18 77 113 53 4.67 10 10 0 9.1 .9 3.7 5.5 4.59 4.70 4.90 4.81 -3 -3 14 25