DOUG BROCAIL
Born 5-16-1967
Bats L Throws R
Real Stats, No DT
Doug Brocail Born 19670516 Age 43 Bats L Throws R Height 77 Weight 250 No DT, Real Year Team Lge G GS IP H ER HR BB K GB% DERA W L SV H/9 HR/9 BB/9 K/9 NERA PERA LFRA SIERA DLH DLR STF RAR 1986 Spokane_____ Nwn 16 15 85.0 85 36 4 53 77 -59 3.81 5 4 0 9.0 .4 5.6 8.2 5.51 6.12 4.17 4.21 1 -6 34 11 1987 CharlestonSC SAL 19 18 92.3 94 42 6 28 68 -57 4.09 2 6 0 9.2 .6 2.7 6.6 4.97 4.75 4.25 4.33 2 2 27 14 1988 CharlestonSC SAL 22 13 107.0 107 32 3 25 107 -60 2.69 8 6 2 9.0 .3 2.1 9.0 3.36 3.97 3.42 3.41 24 -7 20 29 1989 Wichita____ Tex 23 22 134.7 158 78 11 50 95 -58 5.21 5 9 0 10.6 .7 3.3 6.3 5.88 5.62 4.08 4.13 18 4 13 15 1990 Wichita____ Tex 12 9 52.0 53 25 7 24 27 -53 4.33 2 2 0 9.2 1.2 4.2 4.7 5.19 5.46 5.00 5.08 -7 -2 4 4 1991 Wichita____ Tex 34 16 146.3 147 63 15 43 108 -58 3.87 10 7 6 9.0 .9 2.6 6.6 4.74 4.80 3.91 3.96 -3 -1 12 24 1992 Las_Vegas___ PCL 29 25 172.3 187 76 7 63 103 -59 3.97 10 10 0 9.8 .4 3.3 5.4 4.28 4.76 4.19 4.26 -3 -9 21 32 1992 San_Diego___ NL 3 3 14.0 17 10 2 5 15 41 6.43 0 0 0 10.9 1.3 3.2 9.6 6.43 5.70 3.56 3.26 3 1 5 1 1993 Las_Vegas___ PCL 10 8 51.3 51 21 4 14 32 -59 3.68 4 2 1 8.9 .7 2.5 5.6 4.56 4.51 4.08 4.15 -10 0 25 10 1993 San_Diego___ NL 24 24 128.3 143 65 16 42 70 46 4.56 4 13 0 10.0 1.1 2.9 4.9 5.26 5.28 4.96 4.94 -1 0 2 13 1994 Wichita____ Tex 2 0 4.0 3 1 0 1 2 -58 2.25 0 0 0 6.8 .0 2.3 4.5 2.25 2.63 4.59 4.76 -1 0 4 1 1994 Las_Vegas___ PCL 7 3 12.7 21 10 1 2 8 -63 7.11 0 0 0 14.9 .7 1.4 5.7 8.53 7.63 3.89 4.03 3 1 2 -1 1994 San_Diego___ NL 12 0 17.0 21 11 1 5 11 50 5.82 0 0 0 11.1 .5 2.6 5.8 6.88 5.50 4.91 4.65 3 3 -7 -1 1995 Tucson______ PCL 3 3 16.3 18 7 1 4 16 -57 3.86 1 0 0 9.9 .6 2.2 8.8 4.96 4.80 3.07 2.93 1 0 17 4 1995 Houston_____ NL 36 7 77.3 87 36 10 22 39 54 4.19 6 4 1 10.1 1.2 2.6 4.5 4.66 5.30 5.09 5.13 -7 -6 -3 3 1996 Jackson_____ Tex 2 2 4.0 1 0 0 1 5 -32 .00 0 0 0 2.3 .0 2.3 11.3 .00 .73 3.10 2.47 -1 0 11 2 1996 Tucson______ PCL 5 1 7.3 12 6 1 1 4 -57 7.36 0 1 0 14.7 1.2 1.2 4.9 7.36 7.88 4.30 4.52 1 0 -5 -1 1996 Houston_____ NL 23 4 53.0 58 27 7 23 34 54 4.58 1 5 0 9.8 1.2 3.9 5.8 5.26 5.74 5.06 5.04 -1 -3 -7 1 1997 Detroit_____ AL 61 4 78.0 74 28 10 36 60 52 3.23 3 4 2 8.5 1.2 4.2 6.9 3.58 4.88 4.44 4.36 0 -11 -2 8 1998 Detroit_____ AL 60 0 62.7 47 19 2 18 55 47 2.73 5 2 0 6.8 .3 2.6 7.9 3.30 2.84 3.68 3.49 -4 3 15 13 1999 Detroit_____ AL 70 0 82.0 60 23 7 25 78 43 2.52 4 4 2 6.6 .8 2.7 8.6 2.52 3.25 3.53 3.12 -7 -7 19 18 2000 Detroit_____ AL 49 0 50.7 57 23 5 14 41 56 4.09 5 4 0 10.1 .9 2.5 7.3 4.44 4.90 3.83 3.81 3 -3 4 4 2001 Round_Rock__ Tex 1 1 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 -64 .00 0 0 0 .0 .0 .0 9.0 .00 .00 1.03 2.28 -1 0 14 1 2001 New_Orleans_ PCL 2 0 2.3 2 0 0 1 2 -37 .00 0 0 0 7.7 .0 3.9 7.7 .00 3.44 4.74 4.95 0 -1 -1 1 2004 Frisco______ Tex 1 1 4.3 2 1 1 0 6 -23 2.08 0 0 0 4.2 2.1 .0 12.5 2.08 2.08 2.62 1.74 -1 0 12 2 2004 Oklahoma____ PCL 12 0 19.3 20 9 1 2 19 -60 4.19 2 0 0 9.3 .5 .9 8.8 4.19 3.97 3.38 3.18 2 0 15 3 2004 Texas_______ AL 43 0 52.3 54 24 2 20 43 60 4.13 4 1 1 9.3 .3 3.4 7.4 4.99 4.53 4.09 3.95 4 3 6 5 2005 Texas_______ AL 61 0 73.3 90 45 2 34 61 53 5.52 5 3 1 11.0 .2 4.2 7.5 5.89 5.52 4.41 4.31 15 3 -5 -1 2006 LakeElsinore Cal 6 2 6.3 3 0 0 2 12 29 .00 0 0 0 4.3 .0 2.8 17.1 1.42 1.58 3.00 2.38 0 0 6 2 2006 San_Diego___ NL 25 0 28.3 27 15 1 8 19 50 4.76 2 2 0 8.6 .3 2.5 6.0 5.08 3.61 4.53 4.58 1 5 -4 2 2007 LakeElsinore Cal 1 1 2.0 2 0 0 0 3 0 .00 0 0 0 9.0 .0 .0 13.5 .00 3.12 3.08 2.68 1 -1 6 1 2007 San_Diego___ NL 67 0 76.7 66 26 8 24 43 48 3.05 5 1 0 7.7 .9 2.8 5.0 3.87 3.77 4.99 5.03 -13 1 -2 9 2008 Houston_____ NL 72 0 68.7 63 30 8 21 64 47 3.93 7 5 2 8.3 1.0 2.8 8.4 3.93 4.14 4.00 3.80 1 -2 3 7 2009 CorpsChristi Tex 2 0 2.0 2 0 0 0 1 60 .00 1 0 0 9.0 .0 .0 4.5 .00 2.78 4.08 4.22 0 -1 7 1 2009 Round_Rock__ PCL 7 0 7.0 8 4 0 2 3 50 5.14 0 1 0 10.3 .0 2.6 3.9 6.43 5.01 5.42 5.33 1 1 -12 0 2009 Houston_____ NL 20 0 17.7 21 9 4 13 9 52 4.58 1 0 0 10.7 2.0 6.6 4.6 4.58 7.45 5.99 6.03 -2 -6 -23 -2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Majors 59 3 83.4 83 37 8 29 60 49 4.00 4 4 0 9.1 .9 3.2 6.6 4.46 4.65 4.45 4.36 0 -2 2 -2 Minors 36 23 156.0 163 69 10 53 117 57 3.98 8 8 1 9.4 .6 3.1 6.8 4.74 4.92 4.03 4.06 5 -3 18 29 Totals 47 10 102.0 104 45 8 35 75 53 3.99 6 5 1 9.3 .7 3.1 6.7 4.61 4.79 4.24 4.21 1 -2 10 18Regular DT
Doug Brocail Born 19670516 Age 43 Bats L Throws R Height 77 Weight 250 Regular PDT Year Team Lge G GS IP H ER HR BB K GB% DERA W L SV H/9 HR/9 BB/9 K/9 NERA PERA LFRA SIERA DLH DLR STF RAR 1986 Spokane_____ Nwn 16 15 84.0 107 56 13 46 43 -54 6.00 3 6 0 11.5 1.4 4.9 4.6 6.00 6.66 6.13 5.51 1 -6 14 -4 1987 CharlestonSC SAL 19 18 85.7 113 65 13 36 38 -51 6.83 3 7 0 11.9 1.4 3.8 4.0 6.83 6.56 5.97 5.46 2 2 19 -7 1988 CharlestonSC SAL 22 13 94.7 142 64 13 36 65 -55 6.08 4 7 1 13.5 1.2 3.4 6.2 6.08 7.16 5.04 4.58 24 -7 0 -5 1989 Wichita____ Tex 23 22 129.0 174 99 18 56 77 -54 6.91 4 10 0 12.1 1.3 3.9 5.4 6.91 6.62 5.27 4.96 18 4 -2 -5 1990 Wichita____ Tex 12 9 50.3 56 33 9 27 19 -49 5.90 2 4 0 10.0 1.6 4.8 3.4 5.90 6.12 6.44 6.01 -7 -2 -10 -3 1991 Wichita____ Tex 34 16 140.3 163 83 21 48 78 -54 5.32 7 9 5 10.5 1.3 3.1 5.0 5.32 5.42 5.17 4.85 -3 -1 -2 5 1992 Las_Vegas___ PCL 29 25 171.0 188 82 17 65 93 -56 4.32 10 9 0 9.9 .9 3.4 4.9 4.37 4.89 5.13 4.92 -3 -9 11 23 1992 San_Diego___ NL 3 3 14.7 18 11 3 5 15 40 6.75 1 1 0 11.0 1.8 3.1 9.2 6.75 6.09 3.74 3.46 3 1 2 0 1993 Las_Vegas___ PCL 10 8 52.0 46 20 5 17 25 -55 3.46 4 2 0 8.0 .9 2.9 4.3 3.63 3.68 5.19 4.93 -10 0 14 10 1993 San_Diego___ NL 24 24 133.3 148 76 19 45 68 44 5.13 7 8 0 10.0 1.3 3.0 4.6 5.33 5.34 5.24 5.14 -1 0 -1 10 1994 Wichita____ Tex 2 0 3.7 3 1 0 1 1 -53 2.45 0 0 0 7.4 .0 2.5 2.5 2.45 3.38 6.28 5.74 -1 0 -4 0 1994 Las_Vegas___ PCL 7 3 13.0 19 9 1 3 7 -59 6.23 0 1 0 13.2 .7 2.1 4.8 6.92 6.32 4.81 4.66 3 1 -8 -1 1994 San_Diego___ NL 12 0 17.7 22 13 1 5 10 47 6.62 1 1 0 11.2 .5 2.5 5.1 7.13 5.66 5.25 4.87 3 3 -11 -1 1995 Tucson______ PCL 3 3 16.3 18 9 2 5 14 -54 4.96 1 1 0 9.9 1.1 2.8 7.7 4.96 4.83 3.95 3.66 1 0 14 2 1995 Houston_____ NL 36 7 80.0 88 37 12 23 31 50 4.16 5 4 0 9.9 1.4 2.6 3.5 4.50 5.18 5.44 5.35 -7 -6 -6 3 1996 Jackson_____ Tex 2 2 3.7 2 0 0 1 4 -29 .00 0 0 0 4.9 .0 2.5 9.8 .00 1.80 3.84 3.31 -1 0 8 1 1996 Tucson______ PCL 5 1 7.3 12 5 2 2 3 -53 6.14 0 1 0 14.7 2.5 2.5 3.7 7.36 7.85 5.31 5.20 1 0 -17 -1 1996 Houston_____ NL 23 4 53.0 58 27 8 23 27 51 4.58 3 3 0 9.8 1.4 3.9 4.6 5.09 5.56 5.39 5.26 -1 -3 -10 1 1997 Detroit_____ AL 61 4 78.0 77 32 9 34 57 53 3.69 5 4 1 8.9 1.0 3.9 6.6 3.46 4.79 4.58 4.45 0 -11 -4 6 1998 Detroit_____ AL 60 0 64.0 47 21 1 17 53 47 2.95 5 2 0 6.6 .1 2.4 7.5 2.95 2.53 3.78 3.57 -4 3 15 14 1999 Detroit_____ AL 70 0 83.3 59 20 5 23 77 42 2.16 7 2 1 6.4 .5 2.5 8.3 2.16 2.80 3.73 3.31 -7 -7 17 20 2000 Detroit_____ AL 49 0 53.3 57 22 5 13 39 55 3.71 4 2 0 9.6 .8 2.2 6.6 3.88 4.33 4.03 3.96 3 -3 2 6 2001 Round_Rock__ Tex 1 1 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 -59 .00 0 0 0 .0 .0 .0 9.0 .00 .28 2.73 3.00 -1 0 11 0 2001 New_Orleans_ PCL 2 0 2.3 2 0 0 1 1 -34 .00 0 0 0 7.7 .0 3.9 3.9 .00 4.65 6.58 5.92 0 -1 -11 0 2004 Frisco______ Tex 1 1 3.7 3 2 1 0 4 -22 4.91 0 0 0 7.4 2.5 .0 9.8 4.91 4.31 3.21 2.47 -1 0 7 1 2004 Oklahoma____ PCL 12 0 19.0 22 11 1 3 13 -56 5.21 1 1 0 10.4 .5 1.4 6.2 5.21 4.72 4.43 3.95 2 0 4 1 2004 Texas_______ AL 43 0 55.0 55 28 2 20 42 60 4.58 3 3 0 9.0 .3 3.3 6.9 4.58 4.10 4.31 4.11 4 3 4 4 2005 Texas_______ AL 61 0 77.7 89 43 3 36 61 54 4.98 4 5 0 10.3 .3 4.2 7.1 5.45 5.07 4.56 4.42 15 3 -7 2 2006 LakeElsinore Cal 6 2 6.0 5 2 1 3 7 25 3.00 1 0 0 7.5 1.5 4.5 10.5 3.00 3.79 3.98 3.27 0 0 2 1 2006 San_Diego___ NL 25 0 29.0 30 19 1 8 16 49 5.90 1 2 0 9.3 .3 2.5 5.0 5.28 3.85 4.64 4.68 1 5 -6 1 2007 LakeElsinore Cal 1 1 2.0 2 0 0 0 2 0 .00 0 0 0 9.0 .0 .0 9.0 .00 5.13 3.94 3.67 1 -1 2 0 2007 San_Diego___ NL 67 0 79.0 71 36 10 23 37 48 4.10 5 4 0 8.1 1.1 2.6 4.2 4.22 4.05 5.03 5.06 -13 1 -2 6 2008 Houston_____ NL 72 0 70.0 66 30 7 20 55 46 3.86 5 3 1 8.5 .9 2.6 7.1 3.86 4.03 4.11 3.90 1 -2 1 8 2009 CorpsChristi Tex 2 0 2.0 2 0 0 0 1 54 .00 0 0 0 9.0 .0 .0 4.5 .00 3.87 5.08 5.08 0 -1 1 0 2009 Round_Rock__ PCL 7 0 6.7 9 6 0 2 2 47 8.10 0 1 0 12.2 .0 2.7 2.7 8.10 6.06 6.54 5.98 1 1 -23 -1 2009 Houston_____ NL 20 0 18.7 21 8 4 12 7 51 3.86 1 1 0 10.1 1.9 5.8 3.4 3.86 6.53 6.18 6.10 -2 -6 -24 -1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Majors 57 3 83.4 83 39 8 28 54 49 4.20 5 4 0 9.0 .9 3.0 5.9 4.32 4.48 4.65 4.50 0 -2 0 -1 Minors 37 24 156.0 189 95 20 61 86 53 5.51 6 10 1 11.0 1.2 3.5 5.0 5.55 5.80 5.35 4.98 5 -3 5 7 Totals 47 10 102.0 112 55 11 37 61 51 4.85 5 6 1 10.0 1.0 3.3 5.5 4.93 5.14 5.00 4.74 1 -2 2 11Peak (Age-adjusted) DT
Doug Brocail Born 19670516 Age 43 Bats L Throws R Height 77 Weight 250 Peak PDT Year Team Lge G GS IP H ER HR BB K GB% DERA W L SV H/9 HR/9 BB/9 K/9 NERA PERA LFRA SIERA DLH DLR STF RAR 1986 Spokane_____ Nwn 16 15 90.0 98 45 10 36 57 -58 4.50 5 5 0 9.8 1.0 3.6 5.7 4.50 4.97 4.72 4.61 1 -6 11 12 1987 CharlestonSC SAL 19 18 91.3 104 53 11 27 52 -55 5.22 4 6 0 10.2 1.1 2.7 5.1 5.22 5.00 4.69 4.66 2 2 8 8 1988 CharlestonSC SAL 22 13 98.3 136 57 11 30 74 -57 5.22 5 6 1 12.4 1.0 2.7 6.8 5.22 6.17 4.37 4.13 24 -7 6 5 1989 Wichita____ Tex 23 22 135.3 163 85 15 46 95 -57 5.65 6 9 0 10.8 1.0 3.1 6.3 5.65 5.39 4.34 4.32 18 4 10 13 1990 Wichita____ Tex 12 9 51.7 55 30 9 24 22 -51 5.23 3 3 0 9.6 1.6 4.2 3.8 5.23 5.50 5.92 5.69 -7 -2 -4 1 1991 Wichita____ Tex 34 16 141.0 162 82 20 47 80 -54 5.23 7 9 5 10.3 1.3 3.0 5.1 5.23 5.30 5.06 4.77 -3 -1 5 7 1992 Las_Vegas___ PCL 29 25 172.0 186 81 16 63 96 -56 4.24 10 9 0 9.7 .8 3.3 5.0 4.29 4.76 5.01 4.84 -3 -9 15 25 1992 San_Diego___ NL 3 3 14.7 18 11 3 5 15 40 6.75 1 1 0 11.0 1.8 3.1 9.2 6.75 6.06 3.71 3.44 3 1 18 0 1993 Las_Vegas___ PCL 10 8 52.3 45 19 5 16 26 -55 3.27 4 2 0 7.7 .9 2.8 4.5 3.61 3.58 5.11 4.86 -10 0 15 11 1993 San_Diego___ NL 24 24 133.3 148 76 19 45 68 44 5.13 7 8 0 10.0 1.3 3.0 4.6 5.27 5.32 5.21 5.13 -1 0 6 10 1994 Wichita____ Tex 2 0 3.7 3 1 0 1 1 -53 2.45 0 0 0 7.4 .0 2.5 2.5 2.45 3.38 6.28 5.74 -1 0 -11 0 1994 Las_Vegas___ PCL 7 3 13.0 19 9 1 3 7 -59 6.23 0 1 0 13.2 .7 2.1 4.8 6.92 6.32 4.81 4.66 3 1 -3 -1 1994 San_Diego___ NL 12 0 17.7 22 13 1 5 10 47 6.62 1 1 0 11.2 .5 2.5 5.1 7.13 5.66 5.25 4.87 3 3 -2 -1 1995 Tucson______ PCL 3 3 16.3 18 9 2 5 14 -54 4.96 1 1 0 9.9 1.1 2.8 7.7 4.96 4.83 3.95 3.66 1 0 18 2 1995 Houston_____ NL 36 7 80.0 88 37 12 23 31 50 4.16 5 4 0 9.9 1.4 2.6 3.5 4.50 5.18 5.44 5.35 -7 -6 -7 3 1996 Jackson_____ Tex 2 2 3.7 2 0 0 1 4 -29 .00 0 0 0 4.9 .0 2.5 9.8 .00 1.80 3.84 3.31 -1 0 20 1 1996 Tucson______ PCL 5 1 7.3 12 5 2 2 3 -53 6.14 0 1 0 14.7 2.5 2.5 3.7 7.36 7.85 5.31 5.20 1 0 -15 -1 1996 Houston_____ NL 23 4 53.0 58 27 8 23 27 51 4.58 3 3 0 9.8 1.4 3.9 4.6 5.09 5.56 5.39 5.26 -1 -3 -7 1 1997 Detroit_____ AL 61 4 78.0 77 32 9 34 57 53 3.69 5 4 1 8.9 1.0 3.9 6.6 3.46 4.79 4.58 4.45 0 -11 3 6 1998 Detroit_____ AL 60 0 64.0 47 21 1 17 53 47 2.95 5 2 0 6.6 .1 2.4 7.5 2.95 2.53 3.78 3.57 -4 3 25 14 1999 Detroit_____ AL 70 0 83.3 59 20 5 23 77 42 2.16 7 2 1 6.4 .5 2.5 8.3 2.16 2.80 3.73 3.31 -7 -7 30 20 2000 Detroit_____ AL 49 0 53.3 57 22 5 13 39 55 3.71 4 2 0 9.6 .8 2.2 6.6 3.88 4.33 4.03 3.96 3 -3 9 6 2001 Round_Rock__ Tex 1 1 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 -59 .00 0 0 0 .0 .0 .0 9.0 .00 .28 2.73 3.00 -1 0 19 0 2001 New_Orleans_ PCL 2 0 2.3 2 0 0 1 1 -34 .00 0 0 0 7.7 .0 3.9 3.9 .00 4.65 6.58 5.92 0 -1 -12 0 2004 Frisco______ Tex 1 1 3.7 3 2 1 0 4 -22 4.91 0 0 0 7.4 2.5 .0 9.8 4.91 4.31 3.21 2.47 -1 0 25 1 2004 Oklahoma____ PCL 12 0 19.0 22 11 1 3 13 -56 5.21 1 1 0 10.4 .5 1.4 6.2 5.21 4.72 4.43 3.95 2 0 10 1 2004 Texas_______ AL 43 0 55.0 55 28 2 20 42 60 4.58 3 3 0 9.0 .3 3.3 6.9 4.58 4.10 4.31 4.11 4 3 11 4 2005 Texas_______ AL 61 0 77.7 89 43 3 36 61 54 4.98 4 5 0 10.3 .3 4.2 7.1 5.45 5.07 4.56 4.42 15 3 4 2 2006 LakeElsinore Cal 6 2 6.0 5 2 1 3 7 25 3.00 1 0 0 7.5 1.5 4.5 10.5 3.00 3.79 3.98 3.27 0 0 15 1 2006 San_Diego___ NL 25 0 29.0 30 19 1 8 16 49 5.90 1 2 0 9.3 .3 2.5 5.0 5.28 3.85 4.64 4.68 1 5 3 1 2007 LakeElsinore Cal 1 1 2.0 2 0 0 0 2 0 .00 0 0 0 9.0 .0 .0 9.0 .00 5.13 3.94 3.67 1 -1 17 0 2007 San_Diego___ NL 67 0 79.0 71 36 10 23 37 48 4.10 5 4 0 8.1 1.1 2.6 4.2 4.22 4.05 5.03 5.06 -13 1 1 6 2008 Houston_____ NL 72 0 70.0 66 30 7 20 55 46 3.86 5 3 1 8.5 .9 2.6 7.1 3.86 4.03 4.11 3.90 1 -2 13 8 2009 CorpsChristi Tex 2 0 2.0 2 0 0 0 1 54 .00 0 0 0 9.0 .0 .0 4.5 .00 3.87 5.08 5.08 0 -1 2 0 2009 Round_Rock__ PCL 7 0 6.7 9 6 0 2 2 47 8.10 0 1 0 12.2 .0 2.7 2.7 8.10 6.06 6.54 5.98 1 1 -18 -1 2009 Houston_____ NL 20 0 18.7 21 8 4 12 7 51 3.86 1 1 0 10.1 1.9 5.8 3.4 3.86 6.53 6.18 6.10 -2 -6 -26 -1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Majors 57 3 83.4 83 39 8 28 54 49 4.20 5 4 0 9.0 .9 3.0 5.9 4.31 4.48 4.65 4.50 0 -2 7 -1 Minors 36 23 156.0 177 84 17 52 95 55 4.87 7 9 1 10.3 1.0 3.0 5.5 4.92 5.13 4.81 4.63 5 -3 9 18 Totals 47 10 102.0 109 51 10 34 64 52 4.54 6 6 1 9.6 1.0 3.0 5.7 4.62 4.81 4.73 4.57 1 -2 8 14