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Career Summary
Years IP W L SV SO ERA WARP
20 4783 311 205 1 3640 2.86 67.5
Birth Date11-17-1944
Height6' 1"
Weight195 lbs
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ThrowsR
WARP Summary

Standard

YEAR TEAM AGE G GS IP IP-SP IP-RP W L SV BS QS BQS PA H R ER HR TB BB UBB HBP SO ERA FIP FRA VORP WARP
1967 NYN 22 35 34 251.0 249.7 1.3 16 13 0 0 24 4 1029 224 85 77 19 331 78 72 5 170 2.76 3.28 3.64 21.8 2.6
1968 NYN 23 36 35 278.0 277.0 1.0 16 12 1 0 31 1 1088 224 73 68 15 324 48 43 8 205 2.20 2.38 2.63 28.9 3.9
1969 NYN 24 36 35 273.3 273.0 0.3 25 7 0 0 29 2 1089 202 75 67 24 323 82 73 7 208 2.21 3.25 3.66 27.5 3.6
1970 NYN 25 37 36 290.7 290.3 0.3 18 12 0 0 26 6 1173 230 103 91 21 352 83 75 4 283 2.82 2.74 3.01 70.7 7.9
1971 NYN 26 36 35 286.3 285.7 0.7 20 10 0 1 31 0 1103 210 61 56 18 303 61 59 4 289 1.76 2.02 2.55 64.7 7.4
1972 NYN 27 35 35 262.0 262.0 0.0 21 12 0 0 22 5 1060 215 92 85 23 329 77 75 5 249 2.92 2.71 3.16 40.5 5.2
1973 NYN 28 36 36 290.0 290.0 0.0 19 10 0 0 31 2 1147 219 74 67 23 333 64 59 4 251 2.08 2.55 3.16 47.2 5.0
1974 NYN 29 32 32 236.0 236.0 0.0 11 11 0 0 18 4 956 199 89 84 19 295 75 65 3 201 3.20 2.92 3.70 28.0 3.6
1975 NYN 30 36 36 280.3 280.3 0.0 22 9 0 0 27 4 1115 217 81 74 11 295 88 82 4 243 2.38 2.38 3.08 46.8 5.1
1976 NYN 31 35 34 271.0 270.7 0.3 14 11 0 0 26 2 1079 211 83 78 14 300 77 68 4 235 2.59 2.48 2.88 41.7 4.8
1977 CIN 32 20 20 165.3 165.3 0.0 14 3 0 0 14 4 641 120 45 43 12 190 38 35 0 124 2.34 2.87 3.65 29.4 3.0
1977 NYN 32 13 13 96.0 96.0 0.0 7 3 0 0 8 1 390 79 33 32 7 117 28 25 0 72 3.00 3.06 3.76 10.5 1.2
1978 CIN 33 36 36 259.7 259.7 0.0 16 14 0 0 28 3 1075 218 97 83 26 352 89 78 0 226 2.88 3.21 3.57 33.0 3.4
1979 CIN 34 32 32 215.0 215.0 0.0 16 6 0 0 22 2 868 187 85 75 16 277 61 55 0 131 3.14 3.29 3.80 29.2 3.4
1980 CIN 35 26 26 168.0 168.0 0.0 10 8 0 0 19 0 692 140 74 68 24 243 59 56 1 101 3.64 4.47 5.16 0.5 0.3
1981 CIN 36 23 23 166.3 166.3 0.0 14 2 0 0 15 1 671 120 51 47 10 187 66 58 3 87 2.54 3.65 3.91 13.2 1.4
1982 CIN 37 21 21 111.3 111.3 0.0 5 13 0 0 8 2 501 136 75 68 14 225 44 40 3 62 5.50 4.54 5.27 -1.2 -0.5
1983 NYN 38 34 34 231.0 231.0 0.0 9 14 0 0 20 4 962 201 104 91 18 293 86 81 4 135 3.55 3.69 4.58 4.4 0.4
1984 CHA 39 34 33 236.7 235.7 1.0 15 11 0 0 15 4 978 216 108 104 27 346 61 58 2 131 3.95 3.92 4.50 15.9 1.7
1985 CHA 40 35 33 238.7 237.0 1.7 16 11 0 0 25 3 993 223 103 84 22 337 69 63 8 134 3.17 3.78 4.43 20.1 2.1
1986 BOS 41 16 16 104.3 104.3 0.0 5 7 0 0 9 2 450 114 46 44 8 162 29 28 2 72 3.80 3.30 3.87 18.5 1.9
1986 CHA 41 12 12 72.0 72.0 0.0 2 6 0 0 6 0 309 66 37 35 9 112 27 26 5 31 4.38 4.89 5.56 0.0 0.0
Career6566474783.04776.36.73112051145456193693971167415213806026139012747636402.863.093.61591.467.5

Advanced

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP FRA FRA+ TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP PPF PVORP PWARP VORP WARP
1967 NYN MLB 35 34 251.0 3.64 104 .255 .251 .311 .372 .265 .271 99 18.2 2.1 21.8 2.6
1968 NYN MLB 36 35 278.0 2.63 113 .235 .245 .299 .347 .259 .257 89 26.4 3.3 28.9 3.9
1969 NYN MLB 36 35 273.3 3.66 108 .230 .250 .315 .369 .259 .232 98 25.8 2.9 27.5 3.6
1970 NYN MLB 37 36 290.7 3.01 131 .221 .256 .323 .385 .261 .267 96 63.5 6.7 70.7 7.9
1971 NYN MLB 36 35 286.3 2.55 133 .208 .253 .312 .362 .258 .263 97 58.4 6.7 64.7 7.4
1972 NYN MLB 35 35 262.0 3.16 115 .245 .253 .314 .371 .266 .272 95 35.3 4.2 40.5 5.2
1973 NYN MLB 36 36 290.0 3.16 122 .214 .256 .320 .384 .260 .243 97 43.2 4.7 47.2 5.0
1974 NYN MLB 32 32 236.0 3.70 110 .232 .263 .328 .378 .265 .274 100 28.7 3.1 28.0 3.6
1975 NYN MLB 36 36 280.3 3.08 122 .215 .265 .330 .384 .264 .268 95 43.0 4.6 46.8 5.1
1976 NYN MLB 35 34 271.0 2.88 122 .223 .253 .316 .358 .258 .263 92 42.8 4.8 41.7 4.8
1977 CIN MLB 20 20 165.3 3.65 118 .197 .260 .324 .399 .260 .231 101 23.3 2.4 29.4 3.0
1977 NYN MLB 13 13 96.0 3.76 107 .220 .267 .331 .409 .264 .254 92 10.6 1.1 10.5 1.2
1978 CIN MLB 36 36 259.7 3.57 114 .245 .255 .316 .373 .258 .262 103 32.3 3.5 33.0 3.4
1979 CIN MLB 32 32 215.0 3.80 110 .230 .258 .316 .377 .252 .259 99 25.6 2.7 29.2 3.4
1980 CIN MLB 26 26 168.0 5.16 75 .242 .258 .315 .372 .254 .229 103 -2.5 -0.3 0.5 0.3
1981 CIN MLB 23 23 166.3 3.91 98 .235 .255 .315 .361 .257 .218 99 8.9 1.0 13.2 1.4
1982 CIN MLB 21 21 111.3 5.27 73 .299 .261 .318 .380 .257 .323 102 -2.3 -0.2 -1.2 -0.5
1983 NYN MLB 34 34 231.0 4.58 85 .240 .256 .319 .375 .256 .255 97 3.1 0.3 4.4 0.4
1984 CHA MLB 34 33 236.7 4.50 98 .245 .264 .325 .403 .267 .250 99 15.9 1.7 15.9 1.7
1985 CHA MLB 35 33 238.7 4.43 101 .250 .262 .328 .410 .270 .264 98 20.1 2.1 20.1 2.1
1986 BOS MLB 16 16 104.3 3.87 117 .264 .266 .334 .422 .273 .313 101 18.5 1.9 18.5 1.9
1986 CHA MLB 12 12 72.0 5.56 78 .265 .261 .332 .405 .267 .241 98 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR GB% BABIP H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 WHIP ERA VORP WARP
1967 NYN MLB 16 13 0 35 34 251.0 224 78 170 19 50% .271 8.0 2.8 0.7 6.1 1.20 2.76 21.8 2.6
1968 NYN MLB 16 12 1 36 35 278.0 224 48 205 15 49% .257 7.3 1.6 0.5 6.6 0.98 2.20 28.9 3.9
1969 NYN MLB 25 7 0 36 35 273.3 202 82 208 24 51% .232 6.7 2.7 0.8 6.8 1.04 2.21 27.5 3.6
1970 NYN MLB 18 12 0 37 36 290.7 230 83 283 21 47% .267 7.1 2.6 0.7 8.8 1.08 2.82 70.7 7.9
1971 NYN MLB 20 10 0 36 35 286.3 210 61 289 18 48% .263 6.6 1.9 0.6 9.1 0.95 1.76 64.7 7.4
1972 NYN MLB 21 12 0 35 35 262.0 215 77 249 23 47% .272 7.4 2.6 0.8 8.6 1.11 2.92 40.5 5.2
1973 NYN MLB 19 10 0 36 36 290.0 219 64 251 23 48% .243 6.8 2.0 0.7 7.8 0.98 2.08 47.2 5.0
1974 NYN MLB 11 11 0 32 32 236.0 199 75 201 19 54% .274 7.6 2.9 0.7 7.7 1.16 3.20 28.0 3.6
1975 NYN MLB 22 9 0 36 36 280.3 217 88 243 11 52% .268 7.0 2.8 0.4 7.8 1.09 2.38 46.8 5.1
1976 NYN MLB 14 11 0 35 34 271.0 211 77 235 14 52% .263 7.0 2.6 0.5 7.8 1.06 2.59 41.7 4.8
1977 CIN MLB 14 3 0 20 20 165.3 120 38 124 12 43% .231 6.5 2.1 0.7 6.8 0.96 2.34 29.4 3.0
1977 NYN MLB 7 3 0 13 13 96.0 79 28 72 7 41% .254 7.4 2.6 0.7 6.8 1.11 3.00 10.5 1.2
1978 CIN MLB 16 14 0 36 36 259.7 218 89 226 26 49% .262 7.6 3.1 0.9 7.8 1.18 2.88 33.0 3.4
1979 CIN MLB 16 6 0 32 32 215.0 187 61 131 16 48% .259 7.8 2.6 0.7 5.5 1.15 3.14 29.2 3.4
1980 CIN MLB 10 8 0 26 26 168.0 140 59 101 24 49% .229 7.5 3.2 1.3 5.4 1.18 3.64 0.5 0.3
1981 CIN MLB 14 2 0 23 23 166.3 120 66 87 10 48% .218 6.5 3.6 0.5 4.7 1.12 2.54 13.2 1.4
1982 CIN MLB 5 13 0 21 21 111.3 136 44 62 14 61% .323 11.0 3.6 1.1 5.0 1.62 5.50 -1.2 -0.5
1983 NYN MLB 9 14 0 34 34 231.0 201 86 135 18 51% .255 7.8 3.4 0.7 5.3 1.24 3.55 4.4 0.4
1984 CHA MLB 15 11 0 34 33 236.7 216 61 131 27 50% .250 8.2 2.3 1.0 5.0 1.17 3.95 15.9 1.7
1985 CHA MLB 16 11 0 35 33 238.7 223 69 134 22 56% .264 8.4 2.6 0.8 5.1 1.22 3.17 20.1 2.1
1986 CHA MLB 2 6 0 12 12 72.0 66 27 31 9 54% .241 8.2 3.4 1.1 3.9 1.29 4.38 0.0 0.0
1986 BOS MLB 5 7 0 16 16 104.3 114 29 72 8 47% .313 9.8 2.5 0.7 6.2 1.37 3.80 18.5 1.9

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT

Injury History

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
1986-05-18 1986-06-04 15-DL 17 15 Left Shoulder Inflammation - -
1980-07-01 1980-08-04 34 33 Left Shoulder Inflammation - -

Compensation

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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2013-06-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)Tom Seaver or Bob Gibson?
(Scrapper from Still here)
Seaver for the rest of 2013; Gibson for 2014 and beyond (Paul Sporer)
2012-08-01 13:00:00 (link to chat)What's your favorite baseball memory?
(Ida from Pasadena, CA)
Thanks for your questions Ida, I live in the same town! Easily my greatest baseball memory is August 4, 1985, when Tom Seaver won his 300th game at a sold-out Yankee Stadium. It was Tom's first attempt at winning 300, and it could not have been scripted any better. I was traveling with the club during that period of my career, and had developed a great relationship with Seaver, so it meant even more to me. We got off the bus and a fan screamed out, "Hey Seaver, I hope you break your arm out there today" and Tom was right next to me. It broke the ice for him, as he let out his signature laugh and yelled back "Thanks for all your support." It was Old Timer's Day at Yankee Stadium and all the great Yankees were in attendance like DiMaggio. New York baseball fans, who loved him during all those years with the Mets, were incredibly supportive throughout the game, and the old Stadium was electric due to his quest and the great Yankee oldtimers in pre-game. Pitching coach Dave Duncan came out to the mound in the later innings, and was greeted with boos from the crowd, but Tony La Russa was never going to take out Seaver unless he had to, it was his game to lose. Tom threw a complete game at age 40, which was amazing in itself, and it was such a perfect moment. We had a closed clubhouse afterwards for a few minutes after the game as Tom composed himself, and his class came out as he had a game-used baseball from #300 for every member of the traveling party. The players had such immense respect for him as he was such a great mind and had such an amazing career. I'll likely never be able to duplicate that afternoon. (Dan Evans)
2011-01-05 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hi Jay! greetings from your southern-most follower (unless someone in the southern island of NZ is also out there?) Quick question, who would be the 5 charter members of the Baseball HoF if it was founded today?
(Guillermo from Montevideo, Uruguay)
Hey Guillermo! I think if you were to start today, Babe Ruth, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron and Cy Young would be four of those five. I'm not sure who the fifth would be, though - probably another pitcher. Maybe Tom Seaver given that he had the highest vote percentage of all time. (Jay Jaffe)
2010-05-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)Who gets into the HOF on the first ballot with a higher percentage of votes, Mariano Rivera or Derek Jeter? I think even those voters with anti-closer bias are going to agree with Mo's inclusion, eh? Tough call.
(tommybones from brooklyn)
I don't think I'm going out too far on a limb by saying that either of these guys could challenge Tom Seaver's 98.84% record vote. The closer thing is more likely to work against Mo, but any writer who doesn't think both of those two are Hallworthy should be considered a fraud. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-10-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hi Steve, Thanks for chatting. Speaking of the 1969 Mets, they were, of course, led by Tom Seaver, whom they acquired by pulling his name out of a hat. How should have the commissioner handled the case to Seaver's rights back then?
(ripfan008 from Baltimore)
And we're back... The whole Seaver situation was kind of a joke, a crazy catch-22. The Braves made Seaver a #1 pick in 1966, but the contract was voided because USC had started its exhibition season by the time the deal went through - not that Seaver had played, although he had worked out with the team (IIRC). Simultaneously, the NCAA ruled Seaver ineligible because he had signed a pro contract. He had nowhere to go. Baseball's solution was a lottery for Seaver. The weird thing about it was that only three teams asked for a shot, the Mets, the Phillies, and the Indians. Oddly, the Braves quit on Seaver at that point. The contract should never have been voided in the first place... (Steven Goldman)
2008-02-28 14:00:00 (link to chat)Christina, great work over the offseason, as always. My question is about roster construction, and specifically the hitter/pitcher divide. It seems like it was just yesterday that we were mocking the Rockies and/or Don Baylor for taking 12 pitchers, but at least it was mildly defensible on the grounds that they needed extra arms to throw in Coors Field. Now we're at a point where almost everyone is at a 13/12 divide. What the heck happened, and what do you think are the chances of some squad going back to 15/10 simply by employing 2 good long men in the pen at all times?
(ElAngelo from New York, NY)
Baylor's mistake was that he made that choice for a post-season roster. While I would like to see more teams invest the roster space in observing one of Earl Weaver's rules and put their young starters in long relief roles, and thereby save themselves multiple spots sunk on multiple situational playthings in the pen, you could also save roster space by effectively committing to a four-man rotation that exploits the fact that we're in a world that doesn't have doubleheaders and a schedule that features plenty of off-days to reduce the fifth slot to a sometime thing. That might mean shorter starts for the front four, and it might not, but I think we're at a point where the industry has probably overcorrected, costing us the next Jack Morris or Tom Seaver.

You could also expand your roster by not resorting to Eck-style closer usage patterns--make the money pitcher for the endgame something more than a sundae's cherry, and you'll get more quality innings. Condition them to be Eck-style closers, and you're investing a roster spot on a single-purpose single-inning reliever, forcing you to commit to 11 at the outset, and making 12 seems plausible.

Now, to be fair to major league managers, managing pitching staffs involves anticipating a lot of different scenarios, not all of them happy, and committing resources in the form of those roster spots. But it can also mean not giving lineups the same depth of consideration, because you know you'll have nine guys out there, and beyond someone who can play the corners, someone who can play the outfield, and someone who can catch, you figure you're covered. It's not the way I look at the problem of in-game tactics or in-season operations, but I was reading Earl Weaver's books at an impressionable age. (Christina Kahrl)


BP Roundtables

DateRoundtable NameComment
2010-10-06 10:00:002010 Playoffs Day OneI can never let go of the fact that the Mets didn't protect Tom Seaver after '83 because they wanted to leave room for Ron Gardenhire on the roster. (Steven Goldman)
2009-10-15 17:00:002009 NLCS Game One (Phillies/Dodgers)Aaron W. (Kentucky): Re: Joe's question, in the '69 NLCS Niekro faced Tom Seaver. That's 264 post-69 wins for Niekro plus 254 for Seaver. 518 put together

Blast, I had half of it. Still, Joe said YOUNG starter. Knucksie doesn't count. Maybe there was a Spahn-Ford game in '57 or '58 that yields a pretty good total. (Steven Goldman)