Biographical

Portrait of Magglio Ordonez

Magglio Ordonez RFWhite Sox

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Career Summary
Years PA AVG OBP SLG TAv WARP
15 7742 .309 .369 .502 .289 28.6
Birth Date1-28-1974
Height6' 0"
Weight215 lbs
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ThrowsR
WARP Summary

Standard

YEAR TEAM AGE G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR TB BB SO HBP SF SH RBI SB CS AVG OBP SLG TAv VORP FRAA WARP
1997 CHA 23 21 72 69 12 22 6 0 4 40 2 8 0 0 1 11 1 2 .319 .338 .580 .318 7.1 0.2 0.7
1998 CHA 24 145 578 535 70 151 25 2 14 222 28 53 9 4 2 65 9 7 .282 .326 .415 .256 4.0 8.6 1.2
1999 CHA 25 157 677 624 100 188 34 3 30 318 47 64 1 5 0 117 13 6 .301 .349 .510 .280 29.5 -2.5 2.5
2000 CHA 26 153 665 588 102 185 34 3 32 321 60 64 2 15 0 126 18 4 .315 .371 .546 .295 41.5 -9.2 3.0
2001 CHA 27 160 671 593 97 181 40 1 31 316 70 70 5 3 0 113 25 7 .305 .382 .533 .299 37.7 -10.5 2.7
2002 CHA 28 153 653 590 116 189 47 1 38 352 53 77 7 3 0 135 7 5 .320 .381 .597 .321 47.1 0.6 4.8
2003 CHA 29 160 674 606 95 192 46 3 29 331 57 73 7 4 0 99 9 5 .317 .380 .546 .307 41.7 9.3 5.1
2004 CHA 30 52 222 202 32 59 8 2 9 98 16 22 3 1 0 37 0 2 .292 .351 .485 .285 8.7 1.9 1.0
2005 DET 31 82 343 305 38 92 17 0 8 133 30 35 1 7 0 46 0 0 .302 .359 .436 .282 10.7 -5.8 0.5
2006 DET 32 155 646 593 82 177 32 1 24 283 45 87 4 4 0 104 1 4 .298 .350 .477 .274 20.8 -10.2 1.0
2007 DET 33 157 678 595 117 216 54 0 28 354 76 79 2 5 0 139 4 1 .363 .434 .595 .338 70.7 -15.4 5.4
2008 DET 34 146 623 561 72 178 32 2 21 277 53 76 3 6 0 103 1 5 .317 .376 .494 .285 25.9 -21.5 0.4
2009 DET 35 131 518 465 54 144 24 2 9 199 51 65 0 2 0 50 3 1 .310 .376 .428 .269 9.8 -8.4 0.1
2010 DET 36 84 365 323 56 98 17 1 12 153 40 38 0 2 0 59 1 0 .303 .378 .474 .286 16.9 -2.1 1.6
2011 DET 37 92 357 329 33 84 10 0 5 109 23 41 1 4 0 32 2 1 .255 .303 .331 .222 -8.9 -6.0 -1.6
Career184877426978107621564262129435066518524565312369450.309.369.502.289363.2-71.028.6

Advanced

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YEAR Team Lg G PA TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP BPF BRAA repLVL POS_ADJ FRAA BRR BVORP BWARP VORP WARP
1993 HIC A 84 301 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .272 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1994 HIC A 132 546 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .310 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1995 PRW A+ 131 535 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .257 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1996 BIR AA 130 528 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .278 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1997 CHA MLB 21 72 .318 .269 .335 .420 .262 .316 95 4.6 2.0 -0.8 0.2 0.4 7.1 0.7 7.1 0.7
1997 NAS AAA 0 557 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .353 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1998 CHA MLB 145 578 .256 .269 .335 .428 .264 .290 100 -2.6 15.7 -5.3 8.6 -2.1 4.0 1.2 4.0 1.2
1999 CHA MLB 157 677 .280 .274 .343 .438 .262 .295 99 15.9 18.9 -7.9 -2.5 -0.2 29.5 2.5 29.5 2.5
2000 CHA MLB 153 665 .295 .274 .347 .444 .265 .302 95 27.5 18.8 -7.8 -9.2 3.5 41.5 3.0 41.5 3.0
2001 CHA MLB 160 671 .299 .269 .335 .435 .264 .303 103 28.9 18.4 -7.5 -10.5 0.6 37.7 2.7 37.7 2.7
2002 CHA MLB 153 653 .321 .269 .334 .432 .269 .316 102 42.5 17.4 -7 0.6 -1.1 47.1 4.8 47.1 4.8
2003 CHA MLB 160 674 .307 .269 .330 .432 .263 .321 100 34.3 18.3 -7.2 9.3 -0.6 41.7 5.1 41.7 5.1
2004 CHA MLB 52 222 .285 .278 .346 .450 .269 .291 107 6.2 6.6 -2.7 1.9 -0.8 8.7 1.0 8.7 1.0
2005 DET MLB 82 343 .282 .264 .322 .420 .259 .312 101 8.1 9.9 -3.7 -5.8 -2.6 10.7 0.5 10.7 0.5
2005 TOL AAA 4 16 .307 .274 .339 .426 .262 .200 95 0.9 0.5 -0.2 -0.1 -0.2 0.9 0.1 0.9 0.1
2006 DET MLB 155 646 .274 .272 .332 .434 .256 .315 106 10.1 19.5 -7.3 -10.2 -4.3 20.8 1.0 20.8 1.0
2007 DET MLB 157 678 .338 .268 .331 .420 .261 .381 102 58.3 20.1 -8 -15.4 -1.1 70.7 5.4 70.7 5.4
2008 DET MLB 146 623 .285 .264 .329 .413 .258 .334 104 16.8 18.0 -7 -21.5 -2.3 25.9 0.4 25.9 0.4
2008 WMI A 1 4 .378 .298 .349 .457 .306 .250 83 0.5 0.1 -0.1 0.0 -0.0 0.5 0.1 0.5 0.1
2009 DET MLB 131 518 .269 .268 .333 .425 .260 .344 104 4.9 14.9 -6.2 -8.4 -1.8 9.8 0.1 9.8 0.1
2010 DET MLB 84 365 .286 .264 .328 .419 .263 .313 109 9.6 10.1 -4.1 -2.1 2.7 16.9 1.6 16.9 1.6
2011 DET MLB 92 357 .222 .264 .323 .416 .264 .275 108 -13.5 9.6 -4.2 -6.0 -1.9 -8.9 -1.6 -8.9 -1.6
2011 TOL AAA 9 39 .279 .261 .329 .390 .254 .346 83 0.9 1.2 -0.6 -0.2 -0.3 1.1 0.1 1.1 0.1

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG ISO TAv VORP FRAA WARP
1993 HIC A 301 32 59 14 4 3 20 26 66 5 5 .216 .282 .330 .114 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1994 HIC A 546 86 144 24 5 11 69 45 57 16 7 .294 .350 .431 .137 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1995 PRW A+ 535 61 116 24 2 12 65 41 71 11 5 .238 .301 .370 .131 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1996 BIR AA 528 66 126 41 0 18 67 39 74 9 10 .263 .330 .461 .198 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1997 NAS AAA 557 65 172 29 3 14 90 32 61 14 10 .329 .370 .476 .147 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1997 CHA MLB 72 12 22 6 0 4 11 2 8 1 2 .319 .338 .580 .261 .318 7.1 0.2 0.7
1998 CHA MLB 578 70 151 25 2 14 65 28 53 9 7 .282 .326 .415 .133 .256 4.0 8.6 1.2
1999 CHA MLB 677 100 188 34 3 30 117 47 64 13 6 .301 .349 .510 .208 .280 29.5 -2.5 2.5
2000 CHA MLB 665 102 185 34 3 32 126 60 64 18 4 .315 .371 .546 .231 .295 41.5 -9.2 3.0
2001 CHA MLB 671 97 181 40 1 31 113 70 70 25 7 .305 .382 .533 .228 .299 37.7 -10.5 2.7
2002 CHA MLB 653 116 189 47 1 38 135 53 77 7 5 .320 .381 .597 .276 .321 47.1 0.6 4.8
2003 CHA MLB 674 95 192 46 3 29 99 57 73 9 5 .317 .380 .546 .229 .307 41.7 9.3 5.1
2004 CHA MLB 222 32 59 8 2 9 37 16 22 0 2 .292 .351 .485 .193 .285 8.7 1.9 1.0
2005 DET MLB 343 38 92 17 0 8 46 30 35 0 0 .302 .359 .436 .134 .282 10.7 -5.8 0.5
2005 TOL AAA 16 3 3 1 0 1 2 2 3 0 0 .214 .312 .500 .286 .307 0.9 -0.1 0.1
2006 DET MLB 646 82 177 32 1 24 104 45 87 1 4 .298 .350 .477 .179 .274 20.8 -10.2 1.0
2007 DET MLB 678 117 216 54 0 28 139 76 79 4 1 .363 .434 .595 .232 .338 70.7 -15.4 5.4
2008 DET MLB 623 72 178 32 2 21 103 53 76 1 5 .317 .376 .494 .176 .285 25.9 -21.5 0.4
2008 WMI A 4 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250 .250 .250 .000 .378 0.5 0.0 0.1
2009 DET MLB 518 54 144 24 2 9 50 51 65 3 1 .310 .376 .428 .118 .269 9.8 -8.4 0.1
2010 DET MLB 365 56 98 17 1 12 59 40 38 1 0 .303 .378 .474 .170 .286 16.9 -2.1 1.6
2011 DET MLB 357 33 84 10 0 5 32 23 41 2 1 .255 .303 .331 .076 .222 -8.9 -6.0 -1.6
2011 TOL AAA 39 3 11 1 0 2 6 2 9 0 0 .297 .333 .486 .189 .279 1.1 -0.2 0.1

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT
2008 2125 0.5054 0.4915 0.8525 0.7300 0.2474 0.9082 0.6846 0.1475
2009 1871 0.5238 0.4682 0.8642 0.6969 0.2166 0.9048 0.7202 0.1358
2010 1290 0.5163 0.4783 0.8847 0.6907 0.2500 0.9348 0.7372 0.1153
2011 1219 0.5135 0.5201 0.8738 0.7412 0.2867 0.9440 0.6824 0.1262
Career65050.51440.48750.86620.71480.24640.91920.70490.1338

Injury History

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2011-10-09 2011-10-16 DTD 7 0 Right Ankle Fracture Re-fracture - -
2011-05-11 2011-06-13 15-DL 33 28 Right Ankle Weakness -
2011-04-12 2011-04-16 DTD 4 4 Right Ankle Inflammation Achilles Bursa Sac -
2011-04-10 2011-04-11 DTD 1 1 Right Ankle Inflammation Achilles Bursa Sac -
2011-04-03 2011-04-04 DTD 1 1 Right Ankle Soreness -
2011-03-20 2011-03-24 Camp 4 0 Left Thigh Strain Hamstring -
2011-03-04 2011-03-08 Camp 4 0 Left Thigh Soreness Hamstring -
2010-07-25 2010-10-04 15-DL 71 67 Right Ankle Surgery Fracture 2010-08-26
2010-07-23 2010-07-24 DTD 1 0 Ankle Soreness -
2010-06-07 2010-06-15 DTD 8 6 Abdomen Soreness Oblique -
2010-05-19 2010-05-20 DTD 1 1 Right Foot Soreness Heel -
2010-05-01 2010-05-01 DTD 0 0 Abdomen Cramp -
2010-03-10 2010-03-13 Camp 3 0 Left Knee Strain -
2008-06-29 2008-07-17 15-DL 18 14 Right Abdomen Strain Oblique -
2008-06-19 2008-06-20 DTD 1 0 Right Abdomen Spasms Oblique -
2007-07-08 2007-07-12 DTD 4 1 Foot Soreness Heel -
2007-06-22 2007-06-22 DTD 0 0 Left Hand Contusion HBP -
2007-06-10 2007-06-12 DTD 2 1 Left Knee Stiffness -
2007-04-14 2007-04-14 DTD 0 0 Lower Leg Laceration Broken Bat -
2007-03-11 2007-03-13 Camp 2 0 Head Concussion HBP -
2006-09-25 2006-09-26 DTD 1 0 Low Back Spasms -
2006-07-05 2006-07-07 DTD 2 1 Left Lower Leg Soreness -
2006-06-29 2006-06-30 DTD 1 0 Left Lower Leg Contusion Foul Ball -
2006-06-11 2006-06-12 DTD 1 1 Left Knee Soreness -
2006-04-09 2006-04-10 DTD 1 1 Left Knee Soreness -
2005-09-24 2005-09-26 DTD 2 2 Abdomen Soreness From Sports Hernia Surgery -
2005-09-02 2005-09-03 DTD 1 1 Elbow Contusion HBP -
2005-08-18 2005-08-20 DTD 2 1 General Medical Illness Virus -
2005-04-13 2005-07-01 60-DL 79 68 Surgery Sports Hernia 2005-04-27
2005-04-07 2005-04-12 DTD 5 4 General Medical Illness Virus -
2004-07-22 2004-10-04 60-DL 74 71 Left Knee Swelling -
2004-05-26 2004-07-08 15-DL 43 36 Left Knee Surgery Meniscus 2004-06-05
2004-05-20 2004-05-21 DTD 1 1 Left Knee Contusion Player Collision -
2004-05-13 2004-05-13 DTD 0 0 Contusion -
2004-03-01 2004-03-08 Camp 7 0 Left Foot Contusion Heel -
2003-08-29 2003-08-29 DTD 0 0 Left Fingers Hyperextension Index Finger -
2003-06-11 2003-06-12 DTD 1 1 General Medical Illness Upper Respiratory Infection -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2011 DET $10,000,000
2010 DET $18,000,000
2009 DET $19,200,000
2008 DET $15,000,000
2007 DET $12,000,000
2006 DET $15,000,000
2005 DET $6,000,000
2004 CHA $14,000,000
2003 CHA $9,000,000
2002 CHA $6,500,000
2001 CHA $3,750,000
2000 CHA $425,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
12 yrPrevious$128,875,000
12 yrTotal$128,875,000

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
14 y 32 dScott Boras1 year/$10M (2011)

Details
  • 1 year/$10M (2011). Re-signed by Detroit as a free agent 12/16/10.
  • 5 years/$75M (2005-09), plus 2010-11 club options. Signed by Detroit as a free agent 1/05. $6M signing bonus. 05:$6M, 06:$15M, 07:$12M, 08:$15M, 09:$18M, 10:$15M club option, $3M buyout, 11:$15M club option no buyout. Detroit may void after 2005 with 25 days on disabled list with recurrence of left knee injury. Options vest at $18M in '10 & $15M in '11 with 1) 135 starts or 540 plate appearances in 2009 or 2) 270 starts or 1,080 plate appearances in 2008-09. Award bonus: $0.1M for All-Star. Detroit declined 2011 option 10/4/10.
  • 3 years/$29.5M (2002-04). Signed extension with Chicago White Sox 7/01. 02:$6.5M, 03:$9M, 04:$14M.
  • 1 year/$3.75M (2001). Re-signed with Chicago White Sox 12/00 (avoided arbitration).
  • 1 year/$0.425M (2000).
  • 1 year/$0.305M (1999).
  • 1 year/$0.175M (1998).
  • 1 year/$0.15M (1997).
  • Signed 1991 by Chicago White Sox as an amateur free agent from Venezuela.

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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2012-09-28 13:00:00 (link to chat)Sam Miller's piece got me wondering: Is there a player you regret not protecting from the Rule 5 draft?
(Lil' Sebastian from The Barn)
Thanks for your question, Lil' Sebastian from The Barn. I gave your question a lot of thought, and the answer for me is NO, because I do not remember getting burned by losing someone permanently in the Rule 5. Sometimes you know that a player might get selected, but your assessment was that the player would return. An example is one of my favorite players, Shane Victorino, who we decided to leave unprotected while I was with the Dodgers and he was selected by the Padres. I thought that we we would get him back, as there were phases of his game that had not fully progressed, but I loved his character, competitive desire, and ability. Luckily, we got him back. I also remember leaving Magglio Ordonez unprotected one year, but his game also had yet to mature enough to stick in the Majors. It's one of the great chess games. (Dan Evans)
2011-08-26 16:00:00 (link to chat)With Carlos Guillen and Magglio Ordonez done, the Tigers have an extra $20M/year to play with in the offseason, I say go get Jose Reyes, put him at second, then you can run out an infield of C Alex Avila, 1B Miguel Cabrera, 2B Reyes, SS Jhonny Peralta, 3B Nick Castellanos. Sound like a plan? If not who should the Tigers go after with the $20m?
(DetroitDale from Florida (eternal spring training))
I would check with Dave Dombrowksi on that stuff -- he seems to have Tigers going pretty good these days (John Coppolella)
2011-08-04 13:00:00 (link to chat)Do you care to expand on your worries over the Tigers' future....weak farm? Iffy everyday lineup? The rotation is locked up for a long while. Thank you.
(lemppi from Iowa)
Weak farm; Kevin had them 27th in the organizational rankings this spring. They'll have some financial flexibility after this season, and while Mike Ilich isn't afraid to spend, they absolutely have to avoid the entanglements that produced so much dead salary over the past few years. Carlos Guillen, Magglio Ordonez, Dontrelle Willis, Nate Robertson, Jeremy Bonderman - I can't think of a team that had so many contracts of $10 million per year blow up on them all at once. (Jay Jaffe)
2010-12-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)Word from Gammons is the Mets would eat about $10 million of Beltran's last year to move him to Boston, or take $10 million of bad contracts in return, like maybe Daisuke. What do you think?
(Colin Jaffe from New Jersey)
I just wrote about acquiring Magglio Ordonez or Josh Willingham for left field at Red Sox Beacon, but Beltran would be a fine fit as well. His defense is diminished, but he would be playing in left anyway, and it would open up a rotation spot for Boston to either (A) put Felix Doubront in or (B) acquire a starting pitcher to fill out their rotation. It also helps the Mets, as someone like Matsuzaka gives them starting pitcher depth at a good price--Dice-K makes $2M less than Oliver Perez, and is far, far superior--in a park and league where his stuff should play better than at Fenway. It would be win-win, if that's the case. (Marc Normandin)
2010-11-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)Magglio Ordonez was somehow a type A free agent (pretty amazing). The Tigers did not offer him arbitration. Please discuss.
(WilliamWilde from Boston)
Maggs can still hit when available, but he's averaged only 120 games a year for the past three, is weak defensively, and has been grossly overpaid of late (7.2 WARP for $51 million for 2008-2010). Why would you want that back unless it's for much, much cheaper? (Jay Jaffe)
2010-11-16 13:00:00 (link to chat)If you had to guess now, who do you think becomes the FA bargain of the offseason? My guess was Kuroda, but his deal was quick and relatively expensive. Dunn the other year was a great example of what I mean.....a good player sitting there at a bargain price for anyone to take later in the offseason.
(Will from Mactaquac)
I was with you on Kuroda. Maybe Magglio Ordonez, who hasn't seemed to generate a buzz commensurate with his offensive abilities. Javier Vazquez might make an NL team happy. The market for late-inning relievers is deep enough that someone like J.J. Putz or Grant Balfour could end up signing a below-market deal. (Ben Lindbergh)
2010-08-04 13:00:00 (link to chat)What is your opinion of Dave Dombrowski? His deal is up after '11. Do GM's go into seasons as a lame duck often or is an extension looming? Thanks.
(lemppi from Ankeny, IA)
It's pretty hard to denigrate the job Dombrowski has done. He walked into a real disaster zone and got the club to the World Series. We just ticked off some of the mistakes that Omar Minaya has made, but how many of those contracts has Dombrowski handed out? The Magglio Ordonez deal gets criticized, but how bad has Ordonez been? Bonderman imploded, but he was signed coming off a good year at 23. The Carlos Guillen deal was questionable at the time (2007) and you would have liked to see them being more aggressive in searching for a catcher this year. Overall, though, I think he'll be back if he wants to be. The only question is, if, as Sparky Anderson suggested about certain managerial firings, "They just get sick of seeing you." We don't know about those relationships, obviously. (Steven Goldman)
2009-09-14 16:30:00 (link to chat)Can you assess the impact of Detroit's local economy on the Tigers? They carry a large payroll and they let Magglio Ordonez' $18M deal for 2010 vest to the tune of an extra $15M ($3M buy out no matter what). They also added Washburn and Huff while paying over-slot to 4 picks at least. The only thing I can see is that they did lay low during the last off-season's Free Agent market. Thanks.
(lemppi from Ankeny, IA)
Well, sunk costs are sunk. Detroit's current payroll shouldn't factor into whether they spend money on free agents. That should be a question of whether they can add more revenue by adding a player than it will cost to outbid his other suitors.

The effect of their economy is not immediate. It should come down to whether a win becomes more valuable than before, rather than what their total revenue will do. If the market is such that people refuse to see a losing ballclub, but will go out and see a winning ballclub almost as much as in good economic times, then the Tigers should spend more money. I'd be curious about this topic in general. (Matt Swartz)
2009-08-26 13:00:00 (link to chat)Approximately how much revenue is each round of the playoffs worth to each club? Is a first round playoff series worth the cost of letting Magglio Ordonez' contract vest for next season to the tune $15M? They could have cut him for the $3M buyout but it appears he'll make his plate appearances now barring injury. (even though I don't think Magglio is driving force behind a playoff berth) Thank you.
(lemppi from Ankeny, IA)
I would have cut him midseason. Making the playoffs -- and therefore having a chance at the WS -- can bring in a lot more than $15m. But it's not like cutting Magglio eliminates that possibility -- they could have found somewhat similar production from July-September from someone else. (Shawn Hoffman)
2009-07-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)What do you do with Magglio Ordonez? Word on the street is that he's going to be the short end of a platoon in RF.
(don from lansing, MI)
I'd do exactly that, put him on the short end of a platoon. The season has reached the point where you can't worry about players' feelings, their performance bonuses or the amount of playing time that triggers option years. Scott Boras can complain all he wants but Jim Leyland has an obligation to put his best team on the field in an attempt to win his division. Right now, that doesn't include Ordonez. (John Perrotto)
2009-05-21 14:00:00 (link to chat)At roughly 40 games in, could you handicap the AL Central? Can the Tigers still go the distance w/o much from Magglio Ordonez, Carlos Guillen, and Placido Polanco?
(lemppi from Ankeny, IA)
The best single unit is the Tigers' rotation, which has been very good. I don't think Dontrelle Willis is the solution in the #5 slot--I'd rather see Bonderman replace him than Galarraga--but Verlander/Jackson (11 walks!)/Porcello is a great way to start. They need some bullpen help and maybe a lefty bat, although Larish could fill that role. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-01-25 13:30:00 (link to chat)Inge? I blame him. Look, when you don't hit, you can't expect all that playing time. Inge was able to break in because he came up at a historically bad time for the Tigers, and now he'll draw a pension because of it. If he doesn't want to play a lesser (albeit still important) role for the team that forked over $24 million to a career .241 hitter, you better believe I blame him. How many runs do you see the Tigers scoring this year?
(Dan from Oakland, CA)
Another party heard from :)

Oh, I agree that his production is not commensurate with his salary but I was speaking more to the natural drive to play.

They score 887 runs last season and although Magglio Ordonez will certainly regress to the mean, the addition of Cabrera and Renteria should offset the drop. I'm going to say 903... (Dan Fox)
2008-01-25 13:30:00 (link to chat)Dan, I appreciate your work, thanks for the time to chat. You mentioned Magglio Ordonez as someone who should regress to the mean in '08. What players in particular do you see taking their game to a higher level in 2008?
(tim foli from parts unknown)
Ok, gotta rap this up and do some real work...

The answer to your question is the topic of a column in the very near future that will take the simple projection framework I developed for the booms and busts column and apply it going forward to 2008 (and beyond?). And then we'll see who makes the list. (Dan Fox)
2008-01-10 13:00:00 (link to chat)How good can you see Colby Rasmus becoming? Is he Sizemore good or better?
(Mike from Utica,NY)
That's a pretty good comp. There could be more power, although in fairness, I expected more power from Sizemore.

He also could grow out of center end up like...hmmm...peak Magglio Ordonez? (Joe Sheehan)


BP Roundtables

DateRoundtable NameComment
2008-09-29 10:30:00Tigers/White Sox Play-In Gamelemppi asks: "Your mission if you choose to accept it: Dave Dombrowski hires you to find the best possible trade for Magglio Ordonez. Do you tell him he's nuts to trade Maggs? If not, what clubs do you talk to first and what would you expect to receive? Thanks."

I'd ask if he's trying to win in '09. If he is, I hold onto Ordonez. I don't think you can get value for him. If he's building, I find out how much of the contract Ilitch is willing to swallow and start dialing Brian Sabean's number." (Will Carroll)
 

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