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Career Summary
Years IP W L SV SO ERA WARP
14 2198 131 124 2 1553 4.27 20.8
Birth Date4-2-1970
Height6' 3"
Weight220 lbs
BatsL
ThrowsR
WARP Summary

Standard

YEAR TEAM AGE G GS IP IP-SP IP-RP W L SV BS QS BQS PA H R ER HR TB BB UBB HBP SO ERA FIP FRA VORP WARP
1994 PIT 24 17 17 108.7 108.7 0.0 6 7 0 0 9 2 460 116 62 45 12 186 25 22 1 71 3.73 3.91 4.78 5.4 0.3
1995 PIT 25 21 12 72.7 60.7 12.0 4 7 0 1 3 0 327 103 56 51 7 147 14 14 4 45 6.32 3.82 4.60 7.0 0.8
1996 PIT 26 51 15 142.0 92.0 50.0 9 5 1 5 8 1 600 156 70 63 19 243 28 26 3 94 3.99 4.16 5.37 7.3 0.9
1997 PIT 27 33 32 188.3 186.3 2.0 11 14 0 0 18 0 799 193 102 94 23 315 51 43 1 160 4.49 3.79 4.78 18.1 1.8
1998 PIT 28 29 28 171.0 170.7 0.3 8 14 1 0 15 0 731 182 93 78 23 301 40 36 3 138 4.11 3.96 4.73 24.6 2.1
1999 CHN 29 31 31 203.3 203.3 0.0 10 11 0 0 17 1 875 226 107 92 28 350 46 40 1 186 4.07 3.73 4.35 42.0 3.6
2000 CHN 30 35 35 251.0 251.0 0.0 12 11 0 0 19 2 1047 248 130 123 36 410 54 51 10 192 4.41 4.16 4.93 31.4 2.8
2001 CHN 31 34 34 232.3 232.3 0.0 20 6 0 0 22 2 958 226 104 98 25 356 41 37 7 148 3.80 3.75 4.85 20.7 2.1
2002 CHN 32 21 21 141.0 141.0 0.0 6 8 0 0 12 1 582 153 64 58 15 228 12 10 1 87 3.70 3.30 3.92 22.3 2.1
2004 NYA 34 27 27 176.7 176.7 0.0 14 8 0 0 16 2 749 216 95 85 20 317 18 16 2 102 4.33 3.81 4.72 24.8 2.2
2005 PHI 35 35 35 218.3 218.3 0.0 17 13 0 0 20 0 912 223 107 102 33 371 41 35 5 149 4.20 4.22 5.26 0.1 -0.1
2006 PHI 36 27 27 168.0 168.0 0.0 9 11 0 0 11 2 714 196 100 92 27 319 24 21 6 100 4.93 4.54 5.09 11.3 1.0
2007 PHI 37 14 12 78.0 75.7 2.3 3 6 0 0 5 0 342 91 44 41 7 138 22 17 3 54 4.73 3.92 4.55 13.6 1.2
2008 CHN 38 26 1 46.7 2.0 44.7 2 3 0 1 0 0 204 59 24 21 10 106 6 2 2 27 4.05 5.25 5.98 0.4 0.0
Career4013272198.02086.7111.31311242717513930023881158104328537874223704915534.273.974.82228.920.8

Advanced

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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP FRA FRA+ TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP PPF PVORP PWARP VORP WARP
1992 EUG A- 5 5 31.0 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1992 BCY A+ 7 6 31.0 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1993 WIL A+ 17 16 114.7 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1993 CAR AA 6 6 34.0 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1993 MEM AA 4 4 19.0 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1994 PIT MLB 17 17 108.7 4.78 95 .258 .266 .326 .417 .257 .296 98 7.3 0.7 5.4 0.3
1994 CAR AA 3 3 21.0 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1994 BUF AAA 3 3 21.3 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1995 PIT MLB 21 12 72.7 4.60 104 .289 .264 .327 .410 .256 .374 103 10.5 1.0 7.0 0.8
1995 CLG AAA 14 14 77.0 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1996 PIT MLB 51 15 142.0 5.37 91 .250 .265 .326 .416 .252 .301 104 6.3 0.6 7.3 0.9
1997 PIT MLB 33 32 188.3 4.78 99 .252 .261 .325 .407 .255 .301 102 19.9 2.0 18.1 1.8
1998 PIT MLB 29 28 171.0 4.73 98 .257 .259 .324 .406 .255 .302 100 20.9 2.1 24.6 2.1
1999 CHN MLB 31 31 203.3 4.35 113 .252 .267 .336 .431 .259 .322 100 40.6 3.8 42.0 3.6
2000 CHN MLB 35 35 251.0 4.93 102 .240 .265 .336 .428 .257 .281 99 25.6 2.4 31.4 2.8
2001 CHN MLB 34 34 232.3 4.85 96 .240 .264 .326 .423 .257 .273 98 16.9 1.7 20.7 2.1
2002 CHN MLB 21 21 141.0 3.92 112 .247 .259 .324 .406 .256 .296 99 21.9 2.2 22.3 2.1
2003 TAM A+ 1 1 2.0 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .625 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2004 NYA MLB 27 27 176.7 4.72 109 .258 .272 .336 .430 .259 .323 103 25.0 2.4 24.8 2.2
2004 TAM A+ 1 1 7.0 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .100 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2005 PHI MLB 35 35 218.3 5.26 85 .253 .261 .323 .413 .259 .278 100 5.2 0.5 0.1 -0.1
2006 PHI MLB 27 27 168.0 5.09 93 .271 .261 .325 .424 .262 .303 97 12.1 1.2 11.3 1.0
2006 CLR A+ 2 2 11.1 5.35 37 .341 .265 .335 .383 .263 .409 59 -0.1 -0.0 -0.1 -0.0
2006 PHL Rk 1 1 3.2 4.58 114 .219 .256 .318 .344 .248 .333 111 0.4 0.0 0.4 0.0
2007 PHI MLB 14 12 78.0 4.55 110 .258 .265 .327 .416 .256 .328 105 12.3 1.2 13.6 1.2
2007 CLR A+ 1 1 3.7 3.24 136 .305 .276 .355 .425 .271 .333 106 1.3 0.1 1.3 0.1
2008 CHN MLB 26 1 46.7 5.98 76 .285 .257 .322 .405 .255 .308 103 0.8 0.1 0.4 0.0
2008 PEO A 3 1 7.0 5.91 55 .246 .273 .348 .417 .284 .333 95 -0.1 -0.0 -0.1 -0.0
2008 CUB Rk 1 1 3.0 5.29 89 .225 .258 .309 .362 .254 .400 98 0.3 0.0 0.3 0.0

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR GB% BABIP H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 WHIP ERA VORP WARP
1992 BCY A+ 3 3 0 7 6 31.0 45 8 19 2 0% .000 13.1 2.3 0.6 5.5 1.71 4.65 0.0 0.0
1992 EUG A- 3 0 0 5 5 31.0 26 2 23 1 0% .000 7.5 0.6 0.3 6.7 0.90 1.16 0.0 0.0
1993 CAR AA 4 2 0 6 6 34.0 39 10 28 4 0% .000 10.3 2.6 1.1 7.4 1.44 3.97 0.0 0.0
1993 MEM AA 2 1 0 4 4 19.0 32 6 17 3 0% .000 15.2 2.8 1.4 8.1 2.00 7.58 0.0 0.0
1993 WIL A+ 9 3 0 17 16 114.7 125 9 89 4 0% .000 9.8 0.7 0.3 7.0 1.17 2.67 0.0 0.0
1994 PIT MLB 6 7 0 17 17 108.7 116 25 71 12 55% .296 9.6 2.1 1.0 5.9 1.30 3.73 5.4 0.3
1994 BUF AAA 1 1 0 3 3 21.3 16 1 21 1 0% .000 6.8 0.4 0.4 8.9 0.80 1.69 0.0 0.0
1994 CAR AA 2 0 0 3 3 21.0 13 2 21 0 0% .000 5.6 0.9 0.0 9.0 0.71 1.29 0.0 0.0
1995 PIT MLB 4 7 0 21 12 72.7 103 14 45 7 47% .374 12.8 1.7 0.9 5.6 1.61 6.32 7.0 0.8
1995 CLG AAA 1 5 0 14 14 77.0 122 19 34 6 0% .000 14.3 2.2 0.7 4.0 1.83 7.01 0.0 0.0
1996 PIT MLB 9 5 1 51 15 142.0 156 28 94 19 53% .301 9.9 1.8 1.2 6.0 1.30 3.99 7.3 0.9
1997 PIT MLB 11 14 0 33 32 188.3 193 51 160 23 53% .301 9.2 2.4 1.1 7.6 1.30 4.49 18.1 1.8
1998 PIT MLB 8 14 1 29 28 171.0 182 40 138 23 44% .302 9.6 2.1 1.2 7.3 1.30 4.11 24.6 2.1
1999 CHN MLB 10 11 0 31 31 203.3 226 46 186 28 47% .322 10.0 2.0 1.2 8.2 1.34 4.07 42.0 3.6
2000 CHN MLB 12 11 0 35 35 251.0 248 54 192 36 60% .281 8.9 1.9 1.3 6.9 1.20 4.41 31.4 2.8
2001 CHN MLB 20 6 0 34 34 232.3 226 41 148 25 55% .273 8.8 1.6 1.0 5.7 1.15 3.80 20.7 2.1
2002 CHN MLB 6 8 0 21 21 141.0 153 12 87 15 51% .296 9.8 0.8 1.0 5.6 1.17 3.70 22.3 2.1
2003 TAM A+ 0 0 0 1 1 2.0 5 0 4 0 0% .625 22.5 0.0 0.0 18.0 2.50 13.50 0.0 0.0
2004 TAM A+ 1 0 0 1 1 7.0 2 0 4 0 0% .100 2.6 0.0 0.0 5.1 0.29 0.00 0.0 0.0
2004 NYA MLB 14 8 0 27 27 176.7 216 18 102 20 50% .323 11.0 0.9 1.0 5.2 1.32 4.33 24.8 2.2
2005 PHI MLB 17 13 0 35 35 218.3 223 41 149 33 47% .278 9.2 1.7 1.4 6.1 1.21 4.20 0.1 -0.1
2006 CLR A+ 0 2 0 2 2 11.1 19 0 6 1 64% .409 15.4 0.0 0.8 4.9 1.71 7.30 -0.1 -0.0
2006 PHL Rk 0 0 0 1 1 3.2 4 0 1 0 92% .333 11.2 0.0 0.0 2.8 1.25 2.81 0.4 0.0
2006 PHI MLB 9 11 0 27 27 168.0 196 24 100 27 45% .303 10.5 1.3 1.4 5.4 1.31 4.93 11.3 1.0
2007 CLR A+ 0 0 0 1 1 3.7 4 0 4 0 58% .333 9.7 0.0 0.0 9.7 1.08 2.43 1.3 0.1
2007 PHI MLB 3 6 0 14 12 78.0 91 22 54 7 45% .328 10.5 2.5 0.8 6.2 1.45 4.73 13.6 1.2
2008 CHN MLB 2 3 0 26 1 46.7 59 6 27 10 41% .308 11.4 1.2 1.9 5.2 1.39 4.05 0.4 0.0
2008 CUB Rk 0 0 0 1 1 3.0 4 0 1 0 70% .400 12.0 0.0 0.0 3.0 1.33 0.00 0.3 0.0
2008 PEO A 0 1 0 3 1 7.0 8 0 6 1 45% .333 10.3 0.0 1.3 7.7 1.14 3.86 -0.1 -0.0

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT
2008 662 0.5453 0.5347 0.8023 0.6953 0.3422 0.8566 0.6699 0.1977
Career6620.54530.53470.80230.69530.34220.85660.66990.1977

Injury History

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2008-09-09 2008-10-05 60-DL 26 18 Right Foot Strain -
2008-07-11 2008-09-01 15-DL 52 45 Right Foot Strain -
2007-06-23 2007-10-07 60-DL 106 89 Right Foot Strain -
2007-03-23 2007-04-08 15-DL 16 5 Abdomen Strain Oblique -
2006-05-29 2006-07-06 15-DL 38 34 Left Groin Strain -
2004-03-30 2004-05-01 15-DL 32 23 Right Groin Strain -
2003-03-30 2003-10-26 60-DL 210 163 Right Elbow Recovery From Surgery Tommy John Surgery 2002-08-07
2002-08-02 2002-09-30 60-DL 59 56 Right Elbow Surgery Tommy John Surgery 2002-08-07
1999-04-21 1999-05-08 15-DL 17 14 Right Contusion - -
1998-08-21 1998-09-14 15-DL 24 22 Left Abdomen Strain Oblique - -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2008 CHN $3,500,000
2007 PHI $7,500,000
2006 PHI $7,250,000
2005 PHI $5,250,000
2004 NYA $2,700,000
2003 CHN $5,500,000
2002 CHN $5,833,333
2001 CHN $5,083,333
2000 CHN $3,833,333
YearsDescriptionSalary
9 yrPrevious$46,449,999
9 yrTotal$46,449,999

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
13 y 77 dRex Gary1 yr/$3.5M (08)

Details
  • signed as a free agent from PHI 1/16/08, 1 year/$3.5M (08)
  • performance bonus (games started,innings pitched)
  • signed as a free agent from NYY 12/04, 3 year/$21M (05-07), $1M signing bonus, 05:$5.25M, 06:$7.25M, 07:$7.5M
  • club declined $8M 05 option 11/04
  • signed as a free agent from CHC 1/03
  • 2 year/$3.5M (03-04)+$8M 05 club option (3 year/$16.775M with opt, bonuses)
  • $0.5M signing bonus (1/2 @ signing, 1/2 1/04), 03:$0.3M+$0.775 in bonuses, 04:$2.45M+$4.75M in bonuses, 05:$8M club option $0.25M buyout
  • CHC declined 03 option 10/02
  • 3 year/$15M (00-02)+$6.25M 03 club option$1M signing bonus, 00:$3.5M, 01:$4.75M, 02:$5.5M, 03:$6.25M $0.25M buyout

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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2008-01-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)The back end of the Cubs rotation... You have two duds (Marquis, Dempster), the aging prodigal son (Lieber) , the youngster in Lou's doghouse (Marshall), and the unproven guys (Gallagher, Kevin Hart, maybe even Neil Cotts or Samardjiza but unlikely). Who should win and who will win out the last two spots?
(Hank from Lincoln Park)
First, let's take Jeff Samardjiza out of the discussion. He's more likely to be the Bears' flanker next year than the Cubs' fifth starter. Out of that group, I actually sort of like Ryan Dempster, and I think Jon Lieber should be perfectly adequate. (Nate Silver)
2008-01-17 14:00:00 (link to chat)Is there any reason to be happy about having Jon Lieber vying for a spot in the Cubs rotation? Should I just be happy that the Cubs don't have to fret over saving the three million or so Lieber could earn this year? Cortisol leads to unsightly belly fat after all.
(Brian Gallagher from Evanston, IL)
I sort of touch on this in the TA that just went live--it'll still be there when we wrap up in a few hours ;) --but the nicest thing to say is that it gives them depth, and it might spare them from having to take the experiment of returning Ryan Dempster to a rotation all that far. My disappointment is that Lieber's upside is pretty minimal, and he's no more the right answer to that question over who starts a fourth game in a postseason than Marquis was (and is). (Christina Kahrl)


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PITCHf/x Pitcher Profile

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Although he has not thrown an MLB pitch in 2014, Jon Lieber threw 754 pitches that were tracked by the PITCHf/x system between 2007 and 2008, all of them occuring in the MLB Regular Season. In 2008, he relied primarily on his Slider (83mph) and Fourseam Fastball (88mph), also mixing in a Sinker (88mph). He also rarely threw a Change (83mph) and Curve (77mph).