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Andruw Jones LFBraves

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Career Summary
Years PA AVG OBP SLG TAv WARP
17 8664 .254 .337 .486 .281 60.7
Birth Date4-23-1977
Height6' 1"
Weight225 lbs
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WARP Summary

Standard

YEAR TEAM AGE G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR TB BB SO HBP SF SH RBI SB CS AVG OBP SLG TAv VORP FRAA WARP
1996 ATL 19 31 113 106 11 23 7 1 5 47 7 29 0 0 0 13 3 0 .217 .265 .443 .245 2.7 3.9 0.6
1997 ATL 20 153 467 399 60 92 18 1 18 166 56 107 4 3 5 70 20 11 .231 .329 .416 .258 13.8 13.6 2.7
1998 ATL 21 159 631 582 89 158 33 8 31 300 40 129 4 4 1 90 27 4 .271 .321 .515 .283 48.7 14.2 6.2
1999 ATL 22 162 679 592 97 163 35 5 26 286 76 103 9 2 0 84 24 12 .275 .365 .483 .283 48.6 39.0 8.2
2000 ATL 23 161 729 656 122 199 36 6 36 355 59 100 9 5 0 104 21 6 .303 .366 .541 .303 67.7 13.1 7.5
2001 ATL 24 161 693 625 104 157 25 2 34 288 56 142 3 9 0 104 11 4 .251 .312 .461 .271 37.7 18.7 5.5
2002 ATL 25 154 659 560 91 148 34 0 35 287 83 135 10 6 0 94 8 3 .264 .366 .512 .302 50.1 7.2 5.8
2003 ATL 26 156 659 595 101 165 28 2 36 305 53 125 5 6 0 116 4 3 .277 .338 .513 .285 36.4 9.5 4.6
2004 ATL 27 154 646 570 85 149 34 4 29 278 71 147 3 2 0 91 6 6 .261 .345 .488 .281 38.4 2.2 4.0
2005 ATL 28 160 672 586 95 154 24 3 51 337 64 112 15 7 0 128 5 3 .263 .347 .575 .311 65.2 -8.8 5.7
2006 ATL 29 156 669 565 107 148 29 0 41 300 82 127 13 9 0 129 4 1 .262 .363 .531 .305 57.5 2.5 5.8
2007 ATL 30 154 659 572 83 127 27 2 26 236 70 138 8 9 0 94 5 2 .222 .311 .413 .253 20.0 8.5 2.8
2008 LAN 31 75 238 209 21 33 8 1 3 52 27 76 1 1 0 14 0 1 .158 .256 .249 .192 -10.4 0.3 -1.0
2009 TEX 32 82 331 281 43 60 18 0 17 129 45 72 2 3 0 43 5 1 .214 .323 .459 .268 6.0 -0.4 0.6
2010 CHA 33 107 328 278 41 64 12 1 19 135 45 73 3 2 0 48 9 2 .230 .341 .486 .268 6.1 -2.7 0.4
2011 NYA 34 77 222 190 27 47 8 0 13 94 29 62 3 0 0 33 0 0 .247 .356 .495 .296 9.7 1.2 1.2
2012 NYA 35 94 269 233 27 46 7 0 14 95 28 71 5 3 0 34 0 0 .197 .294 .408 .261 4.3 -3.1 0.1
Career21968664759912041933383364343690891174897716128915259.254.337.486.281502.3118.960.7

Advanced

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YEAR Team Lg G PA TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP BPF BRAA repLVL POS_ADJ FRAA BRR BVORP BWARP VORP WARP
1994 DNV Rk 36 156 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .402 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1995 MCN A 139 632 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .318 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1996 ATL MLB 31 113 .245 .262 .331 .409 .253 .250 99 -1.9 3.5 -0.8 3.9 0.6 2.7 0.6 2.7 0.6
1996 DUR A+ 86 289 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .343 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1996 GRN AA 38 176 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .414 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1996 RIC AAA 12 46 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .387 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1997 ATL MLB 153 467 .258 .260 .330 .408 .258 .267 98 -1.3 12.4 -2.2 13.6 -0.1 13.8 2.7 13.8 2.7
1998 ATL MLB 159 631 .283 .265 .333 .417 .261 .298 96 16.3 16.4 1.7 14.2 4.4 48.7 6.2 48.7 6.2
1999 ATL MLB 162 679 .283 .269 .339 .433 .260 .295 95 18.6 18.4 1.9 39.0 2.6 48.6 8.2 48.6 8.2
2000 ATL MLB 161 729 .303 .269 .341 .438 .262 .310 96 37.2 20.1 2.1 13.1 4.1 67.7 7.5 67.7 7.5
2001 ATL MLB 161 693 .271 .263 .329 .429 .262 .269 95 8.3 18.7 1.9 18.7 3.5 37.7 5.5 37.7 5.5
2002 ATL MLB 154 659 .302 .260 .326 .414 .259 .285 98 29.4 16.8 1.7 7.2 0.8 50.1 5.8 50.1 5.8
2003 ATL MLB 156 659 .285 .264 .331 .423 .261 .293 99 18 17.4 1.8 9.5 -2.6 36.4 4.6 36.4 4.6
2004 ATL MLB 154 646 .281 .264 .331 .431 .263 .303 93 15.3 19.2 1.7 2.2 -3.0 38.4 4.0 38.4 4.0
2005 ATL MLB 160 672 .311 .260 .327 .415 .261 .240 99 36.4 19.3 1.8 -8.8 1.4 65.2 5.7 65.2 5.7
2006 ATL MLB 156 669 .305 .268 .335 .437 .268 .264 94 33.8 20.1 1.6 2.5 2.3 57.5 5.8 57.5 5.8
2007 ATL MLB 154 659 .253 .264 .330 .422 .259 .242 101 -5.1 19.6 1.8 8.5 -1.9 20.0 2.8 20.0 2.8
2008 LAN MLB 75 238 .192 .261 .332 .410 .264 .229 94 -17.3 6.9 0.5 0.3 0.8 -10.4 -1.0 -10.4 -1.0
2008 LVG AAA 11 36 .301 .281 .349 .463 .263 .273 127 1.7 1.1 -0.4 -0.2 0.2 2.1 0.2 2.1 0.2
2009 TEX MLB 82 331 .268 .263 .329 .417 .260 .221 106 3 9.5 -5.2 -0.4 -1.3 6.0 0.6 6.0 0.6
2009 FRI AA 3 12 .231 .259 .330 .386 .250 .250 107 -0.4 0.3 -0.2 0.1 0.1 -0.3 -0.0 -0.3 -0.0
2010 CHA MLB 107 328 .268 .261 .327 .408 .258 .239 113 2.5 9.0 -2.8 -2.7 -0.9 6.1 0.4 6.1 0.4
2011 NYA MLB 77 222 .296 .255 .322 .402 .259 .296 106 7.9 6.0 -2.1 1.2 -2.2 9.7 1.2 9.7 1.2
2012 NYA MLB 94 269 .261 .250 .317 .401 .258 .212 103 0.3 7.4 -2.4 -3.1 -1.4 4.3 0.1 4.3 0.1
2013 NED int 7 30 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .421 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG ISO TAv VORP FRAA WARP
1994 DNV Rk 156 20 48 9 2 1 16 9 25 16 9 .336 .387 .448 .112 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1995 MCN A 632 104 149 41 5 25 100 70 122 56 11 .277 .377 .512 .235 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1996 RIC AAA 46 11 17 3 1 5 12 1 9 2 2 .378 .391 .822 .444 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1996 GRN AA 176 39 58 10 1 12 37 17 34 12 4 .369 .434 .675 .306 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1996 DUR A+ 289 65 76 14 3 17 43 42 54 16 4 .313 .420 .605 .292 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1996 ATL MLB 113 11 23 7 1 5 13 7 29 3 0 .217 .265 .443 .226 .245 2.7 3.9 0.6
1997 ATL MLB 467 60 92 18 1 18 70 56 107 20 11 .231 .329 .416 .185 .258 13.8 13.6 2.7
1998 ATL MLB 631 89 158 33 8 31 90 40 129 27 4 .271 .321 .515 .244 .283 48.7 14.2 6.2
1999 ATL MLB 679 97 163 35 5 26 84 76 103 24 12 .275 .365 .483 .208 .283 48.6 39.0 8.2
2000 ATL MLB 729 122 199 36 6 36 104 59 100 21 6 .303 .366 .541 .238 .303 67.7 13.1 7.5
2001 ATL MLB 693 104 157 25 2 34 104 56 142 11 4 .251 .312 .461 .210 .271 37.7 18.7 5.5
2002 ATL MLB 659 91 148 34 0 35 94 83 135 8 3 .264 .366 .512 .248 .302 50.1 7.2 5.8
2003 ATL MLB 659 101 165 28 2 36 116 53 125 4 3 .277 .338 .513 .235 .285 36.4 9.5 4.6
2004 ATL MLB 646 85 149 34 4 29 91 71 147 6 6 .261 .345 .488 .226 .281 38.4 2.2 4.0
2005 ATL MLB 672 95 154 24 3 51 128 64 112 5 3 .263 .347 .575 .312 .311 65.2 -8.8 5.7
2006 ATL MLB 669 107 148 29 0 41 129 82 127 4 1 .262 .363 .531 .269 .305 57.5 2.5 5.8
2007 ATL MLB 659 83 127 27 2 26 94 70 138 5 2 .222 .311 .413 .191 .253 20.0 8.5 2.8
2008 LAN MLB 238 21 33 8 1 3 14 27 76 0 1 .158 .256 .249 .091 .192 -10.4 0.3 -1.0
2008 LVG AAA 36 7 10 0 0 4 11 3 5 2 0 .323 .382 .710 .387 .301 2.1 -0.2 0.2
2009 TEX MLB 331 43 60 18 0 17 43 45 72 5 1 .214 .323 .459 .246 .268 6.0 -0.4 0.6
2009 FRI AA 12 0 2 0 0 0 0 3 1 1 0 .222 .417 .222 .000 .231 -0.3 0.1 -0.0
2010 CHA MLB 328 41 64 12 1 19 48 45 73 9 2 .230 .341 .486 .255 .268 6.1 -2.7 0.4
2011 NYA MLB 222 27 47 8 0 13 33 29 62 0 0 .247 .356 .495 .247 .296 9.7 1.2 1.2
2012 NYA MLB 269 27 46 7 0 14 34 28 71 0 0 .197 .294 .408 .210 .261 4.3 -3.1 0.1
2013 NED int 30 3 8 1 0 0 2 5 5 0 0 .348 .467 .391 .043 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT
2008 1019 0.4799 0.4303 0.6941 0.5767 0.2943 0.7943 0.5128 0.3059
2009 1283 0.5035 0.4482 0.7322 0.6300 0.2637 0.8280 0.5000 0.2678
2010 1361 0.4857 0.4132 0.7633 0.5779 0.2571 0.8482 0.5833 0.2367
2011 959 0.4838 0.3962 0.7684 0.5841 0.2202 0.8635 0.5321 0.2316
2012 1073 0.4865 0.4101 0.7432 0.5728 0.2559 0.8361 0.5461 0.2568
Career56950.48850.42070.7410.58950.25880.83430.53630.259

Injury History

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2011-06-21 2011-06-25 DTD 4 3 Ankle Soreness -
2010-08-10 2010-08-13 DTD 3 3 Low Back Stiffness -
2010-08-08 2010-08-09 DTD 1 1 Back Stiffness -
2010-05-12 2010-05-15 DTD 3 2 Neck Stiffness -
2010-04-30 2010-05-01 DTD 1 1 Low Back Spasms -
2009-08-24 2009-09-08 15-DL 15 13 Left Thigh Strain Hamstring -
2009-08-07 2009-08-07 DTD 0 0 Left Thigh Strain Hamstring -
2009-04-22 2009-04-22 DTD 0 0 Right Knee Contusion -
2008-09-10 2008-10-16 60-DL 36 17 Right Knee Soreness -
2008-08-10 2008-09-01 15-DL 22 21 Right Knee Inflammation Patellar Tendinitis -
2008-07-18 2008-07-18 DTD 0 0 General Medical Illness GI -
2008-05-24 2008-07-04 15-DL 41 38 Right Knee Surgery Meniscus 2008-05-27
2008-05-19 2008-05-23 DTD 4 3 Right Knee Cartilage Injury Meniscus -
2008-04-26 2008-04-26 DTD 0 0 Left Lower Leg Strain Calf -
2008-04-22 2008-04-22 DTD 0 0 General Medical Illness Allergies -
2007-09-10 2007-09-11 DTD 1 1 General Medical Respiratory Flu -
2007-08-26 2007-08-27 DTD 1 1 Knee Inflammation Patellar Tendinitis -
2007-08-05 2007-08-07 DTD 2 1 Shoulder Soreness -
2007-08-03 2007-08-03 DTD 0 0 Left Elbow Soreness -
2007-07-13 2007-07-13 DTD 0 0 Right Thigh Soreness Quadriceps -
2007-05-19 2007-05-20 DTD 1 2 Low Back Soreness Missed 2nd Game of Doubleheader -
2007-03-17 2007-03-21 Camp 4 0 Right Shoulder Soreness -
2006-08-15 2006-08-16 DTD 1 1 Left Knee Inflammation Patellar Tendinitis -
2006-07-25 2006-07-26 DTD 1 1 Low Back Tightness -
2006-07-23 2006-07-23 DTD 0 0 Low Back Tightness -
2006-05-06 2006-05-06 DTD 0 0 Low Back Tightness -
2005-05-05 2005-05-06 DTD 1 1 Low Back Tightness -
2004-03-27 2004-03-28 Camp 1 0 Right Knee Inflammation -
2003-08-02 2003-08-05 DTD 3 2 Right Abdomen Strain Oblique -
2003-07-28 2003-07-29 DTD 1 1 Right Abdomen Strain Oblique -
2003-07-24 2003-07-24 DTD 0 0 Left Thigh Cramp Hamstring -
2003-06-04 2003-06-07 DTD 3 2 Right Knee Hyperextension -
2003-06-01 2003-06-03 DTD 2 1 Right Knee Hyperextension -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2013 NYA $
2012 NYA $2,000,000
2011 NYA $1,500,000
2010 CHA $500,000
2010 LAN $3,200,000
2009 TEX $500,000
2009 LAN $
2008 LAN $15,100,000
2007 ATL $14,000,000
2006 ATL $13,500,000
2005 ATL $13,000,000
2004 ATL $12,500,000
2003 ATL $12,000,000
2002 ATL $10,000,000
2001 ATL $8,200,000
2000 ATL $3,700,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
13 yrPrevious$109,700,000
13 yrTotal$109,700,000

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
16 y 47 dScott Boras1 year (2013)

Details
  • 1 year/about $3.5M (2013). Signed by Rakuten Eagles of Japan 12/16/12.
  • 1 year/$2M (2012). Re-signed by NY Yankees as a free agent 1/25/12. Performance bonuses: $45,000 each for 100, 125 plate appearances. $70,000 each for 150, 175, 200, 225 PA. $0.17M each for 250, 275 PA. $0.22M each for 300, 325 PA. $0.3M for 350 PA.
  • 1 year/$1.5M (2011). Signed by NY Yankees as a free agent 1/20/11. Performance bonuses: $0.15M each for 250, 275 PAs. $0.2M each for 300, 325 PAs. $0.25M each for 350, 375 PAs.
  • 1 year/$0.5M (2010). Signed by Chicago White Sox as a free agent 11/25/09. $1M in performance bonuses.
  • 1 year/$0.5M (2009). Signed by Texas as a free agent 2/9/09 (minor-league contract). Contract purchased by Texas 4/5/09. $1M in performance bonus based on PAs.
  • 2 years/$36.2M (2008-09). Signed by LA Dodgers as a free agent 12/6/07. $12.2M signing bonus ($5.1M 08, $2.1M in '09, $5M in '10), 08:$9M, 09:$15M. No-trade protection. Released by LA Dodgers 1/15/09 (deal re-worked 1/09 to defer $12M of 2009 salary at no interest).
  • 6 years/$75M (2002-07). Signed extension with Atlanta 2001. $3M signing bonus. 02:$9.5M, 03:$11.5M, 04:$12M, 05:$12.5M, 06:$13M, 07:$13.5M.
  • 1 year/$8.2M (2001). Won arbitration with Atlanta 2/01 ($8.2M-$6.4M).
  • 1 year/$3.7M (2000).
  • 1 year/$0.3M (1999).
  • 1 year/$0.215M (1998).
  • 1 year/$152,500 (1997).
  • Signed by Atlanta 1993 as an amateur free agent from Curacao.

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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2013-01-11 14:00:00 (link to chat)To me, the most overlooked thing regarding the results of the voting is Kenny Lofton's not receiving the requisite 5% of the vote to remain on the ballot. 1. Do you think in a regular year without a polarizing issue like steroids, would he have received the vote? 2. Now that he can only be inducted by the veterans committee, what do you think his chances are? 3. Do you think his bouncing around from team to team later in his career hurts the voter's perception of him? I think it's very unfortunate that he won't stay on the ballot. I'm one who, after reading your analysis and through my own observation of him when he was active, certainly would get my vote if I had one.
(Mike Shumka from Milton, Ontario)
I think Lofton suffers less because of the steroid protest than the size of the crowd on the ballot and the fact that a certain segment of the electorate dramatically undervalues walks and defense. Nearly all of the Hall's recent injustices fit into that pattern - think of Ron Santo, Bobby Grich and Tim Raines, for example.

Lofton will have a long wait ahead of him if his cause is taken up by the Veterans Committee. Among center field contemporaries, Jim Edmonds, Andruw Jones and Carlos Beltran will all have their cases taken up by the BBWAA, and they've got reasonable merits and similar JAWS scores too. (Jay Jaffe on the Hall of Fame)
2012-12-04 14:00:00 (link to chat)So, Detroit's looking for a right-handed hitting outfielder to platoon with Dirks. . . assuming that resigning Delmon I-don't-want-to-DH Young is out of the question, who is available? Do they have any depth anywhere for trading?
(John Carter from Toronto (Tigers fan originally from the New York a)
Glad to see you in the queue again, John Carter.

Jon Morosi reported (and then retracted) yesterday that the Tigers had a two-year offer out to Scott Hairston, and while that report proved inaccurate, I think Hairston could be a fit there. Cody Ross is another possibility, though his price would need to come down if he's going to serve in a platoon role, and they could also consider Andruw Jones or Matt Diaz.

In terms of pieces the Tigers could trade, Brennan Boesch and Andrew Oliver were mentioned yesterday by CBS Sports' Danny Knobler: https://twitter.com/DKnobler/status/275663979584552962. (Daniel Rathman)
2012-10-16 14:00:00 (link to chat)Andruw Jones signed the short-term/high AAV contract with the Dodgers! That worked out great! Honestly though, I kind of assume that the only time contracts like that happen is when a player has some serious concerns going forward, so I wouldn't be surprised if they don't work out very often.
(Jay Taylor from San Francisco)
It's worth a longer look. I'll add it to the list of possible topics. (Ben Lindbergh)
2012-07-09 14:00:00 (link to chat)Who is going to stay with the big club, Dewayne Wise or Darnell McDonald?
(Alex from Anaheim)
This probably depends at least somewhat on Brett Gardner's timetable. Wise is the better defender of the two, and McDonald's main skill -- hitting left-handed pitching -- is already covered by Andruw Jones, but McDonald may be less redundant with the other players on the roster. Now that I've talked myself in circles, my tentative guess is that McDonald hangs around. (Daniel Rathman)
2012-01-30 13:00:00 (link to chat)Would it not make sense to have Arod at DH twice a week and play Nunez at 3B, and also have Jeter play DH once a week and have Nunez play SS? Instead of signing another bat to DH? Have Andruw Jones pick up the slack?
(kimi from brooklyn)
A-Rod the DH yes, Jeter the DH yes if he hits as he did late in the season, in order to keep both healthy and fresh. The problem is that Nunez is neither the fielder nor hitter to get so much playing time. Neither is Bill Hall, the rumor du jour for the bench. (Steven Goldman)
2011-05-18 13:00:00 (link to chat)By taking himself out of the lineup, didn't Jorge Posada actually give the Yankees a better chance of winning?
(Dan from New York)
Not as much as you might think. I'm not convinced that Andruw Jones is a better option. At least, Posada is still taking some walks and hitting with some power --- when he actually hits the ball, that is. (John Perrotto)
2011-01-12 13:00:00 (link to chat)Andruw Jones on the Yankees short list??? Really? On a separate note, can Gardner finally buy a house (i.e. by signing a long-term deal)?
(dianagramr from NYC)
And by Diana, I meant Diane, of course. Darn my pudgy fingers.

I don't think Jones is a bad idea at all. It's just a Marcus Thames who can play defense. That's not a bad thing, especially if you are skeptical about Curtis Granderson being reborn as a non-platoon guy. As for Gardner, he was quite valuable last year, up to, and perhaps past the point he got hurt. We need to see him do what he can do over a full season, but maybe he's also a guy who needs to be protected from his own fragility. He's also not so productive that you wouldn't mind seeing him skip a few PAs against lefties. (Steven Goldman)
2010-08-12 13:00:00 (link to chat)On a non-BP site that I will not name, there was recently a big tout for Andruw Jones as a Hall of Famer based on his supposedly glorious defense. Oh sabermetric one, could you explain how one reconciles Jone's overwhelming defensive rep (and make no mistake, I agree he was good, just not *that* good) with the fact that his teams routinely got fewer outs on fly balls than most of their competitors? Thanks.
(BillJ from New Mexico)
I have Andruw Jones with the 9th most runs above average of any center fielder from 1952 on. He made a lot of plays. (Colin Wyers)
2010-04-21 14:00:00 (link to chat)Most 32 year olds of Andruw Jones' former ability don't just fall off a cliff like he did. 2 questions here: Is there any decent chance his early season results indicate a return to something like his old form? If yes, does he still have the chops to take over in the OF and push either Pierre or Quentin to DH? Thanks.
(GrinnellSteve from Grinnell, Iowa)
From talking to several Braves people (fans, bloggers, etc) a few years ago, the consensus opinion was that Jones never developed solid pitch recognition, but was able to compensate through his super-quick hands and feet. He might not know it's a curveball until the last minute, but had the batting mechanics to get around on it regardless. Then he started to struggle with his health and his weight, and playing 160 games every year probably didn't help. The bat speed and foot speed left, leaving him overweight, with poor pitch recognition, and much less in the reactionary department. A .459 SLG last season was a step in the right direction, but even if he stays at that mark and doesn't improve any more it should be enough to move Pierre or Quentin out of the outfield and into a DH spot. (Eric Seidman)
2010-03-18 14:00:00 (link to chat)Is there any precedent for a player as good as Andruw Jones to fall off a cliff and then climb back up to something approaching his former heights? A good (not great) Jones could be a difference maker in that division. Or should I put my faith in winning the Powerball jackpot instead?
(GrinnellSteve from headed to Florida)
Dave Parker in the '80s comes to mind. I don't think Jones will be a superstar again but the reports from Arizona have been encouraging. Maybe he can at least return to being a good major-league regular. (John Perrotto)
2010-02-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)What's the reasoning behind Ozzie Guillen choosing to go without a real DH? Is he planning on moving Quentin there but he doesn't want to talk about it yet? What gives?
(Cris E from St Paul, MN)
Employing a full-time DH has its cost, not only in payroll but also in the ability to give your position players - particularly those that might be a bit banged up - some rest without losing their bats from the lineup. Not having a full-time DH gives your lineup more flexibility.

Now, as to the particulars of the White Sox lineup, I'd have brought Jim Thome back, because I see a whole lot of holes all over the place. And note with no small amount of glee that Andruw Jones is projected to hit .219/.318/.389. (Jay Jaffe)
2009-12-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)Any rough assessment of Kenny Williams' offseason so far? Can't say I'm a fan of the Teahen extension, but I love the Jones signing, especially if he's replacing Podsednik. Still shown he can go get it in the OF (+10/UZR in limited innings last year). If they sign Crisp to anything less than $2mil, color me excited.
(Scott from Chicago)
Andruw Jones is just a bench bat at this point, and marginal even in that role. I really would take the small-sample UZR from last year with a whole quarry of salt. I love the idea of Crisp for them, actually; I'm pretty high on him, think he has a whole range of skills and is still developing as a player. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-11-17 14:00:00 (link to chat)For Donovan Tate, worst case scenerio: Mike Cameron, best case scenerio: Andruw Jones? Somewhere in between?
(andy from san diego)
Best case might be even better than that, but worst case is not even getting out of the minors. Basically the range is about 10 times what you have here. Crazy athlete, crazy raw. (Kevin Goldstein)
2009-07-21 13:00:00 (link to chat)Before the season, conventional wisdom said that Andruw Jones was washed up as a hitter but might have some use as a defensive replacement. The Rangers seem to have reached the opposite conclusion by usually DHing him. He's not super-fragile so why not put him in t he field?
(rcarter from Newark)
I suppose it's partly a question of what he has left defensively. This isn't the in-his-prime Andruw Jones. As for what he has done with the bat, kudos to Rudy Jaramillo. Is there anyone who does a better job with hitters? (David Laurila)
2009-05-04 14:00:00 (link to chat)Andruw Jones recently had his 32nd birthday. 1) What your odds that he has returned to nearly peak form? 2) Will there be room in the line-up for him when Hamilton returns?
(hotstatrat from at home on my computer)
1) Not great. I like him as a fourth/platoon outfielder who can play center better than anyone else on the roster, though. 2) As long as David Murphy is in the mix, there should be room for Jones, because Jones is no worse a player, and maybe better. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-04-28 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hey John. Current neck spasms aside, do you think Derek Lee's "done"? I know 2005 is a distant memory but is .285/.350/.480 even asking too much? I can't see an Andruw Jones like decline here, but still...
(armcrow from california)
I don't think he's an Andrew Jones but he is now longer the player he was once and it's wishful thinking to believe he ever will be again. (John Perrotto)
2009-03-10 14:30:00 (link to chat)Andruw Jones has had an encouraging spring thus far. Does he make the Rangers opening day roster and if so what can we expect out of him this year as far as playing time and numbers go?
(tompshock from San Diego)
I'd like to see him batting eighth or ninth and playing center field a lot of the time. The Rangers have simply refused to put good defensive players in the outfield for quite some time. It'd be nice to see if a real CF made the pitching better. Given that I don't think much of David Murphy, I have no problem with a Cruz/Jones/Hamilton outfield, with Murphy as the fourth and Byrd as the fifth. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-02-06 13:00:00 (link to chat)What team makes the most sense for Andruw Jones, considering he seems to be focused on going somewhere for playing time rather than competing for a championship? What about Pittsburgh? They have a gaping hole in LF and could use a RH bat.
(greg from San Diego, CA)
What kind of shape is he in? It would be good to see him really committed before someone tries to buy in. The rumored Yankees invitation took me by surprise, but it makes all kinds of sense... (Steven Goldman)
2009-01-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)I read a Buster Olney article today saying that Andruw Jones is a borderline HOF candidate, which I think is a defensible position. I was just curious about your opinion on this - what the heck happened to the guy?
(Ameer from Bloomington, IN)
Some guys just fall off the cliff. Conditioning? Something off-field? Some have suggested PEDs, but I've seen no evidence for that. There are so many factors we don't know about people. David Wells once pitched well and when asked why, he said "I don't know. Had a really good cheeseburger for lunch." There's a lot of cheeseburgers out there, things we don't know -- relationship? hotel bed? new child who doesn't sleep through the night? (Will Carroll)
2008-12-05 14:00:00 (link to chat)Andruw Jones for Luis Castillo and some cash. Who says no?
(Brian from Brooklyn NY)
This Dodger fan, for starters.

Castillo has three years left on his deal, Jones one. Castillo has no place to go defensively. Jones is still an acceptable defensive CF, and is younger so therefore has greater odds of bouncing back. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-11-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)Steve, With Pierre , Andruw Jones, Furcal, Penny, Nomar, Saito, Kent accounting for 75%? of their salary and being benched injured 75% of the year shouldnt Torre have easily defeated Piniella for NL MGR of the year???Thanks
(Joe from Mich)
Torre certainly had some difficult circumstances to work with, but it seemed to me there was a lot of the usual Torre indecision, including his reactionary desire to get Pierre back in the lineup, again and again, until Kemp and Ethier hit well enough that he would have looked stupid to do so after Manny was acquired. Piniella also had his share of adversity. No Cub except Soto really had a great offensive year, Fukudome proved to be a massive disappointment, Soriano got hurt... I think he deserves some recognition for coping with those things. (Steven Goldman)
2008-11-03 13:30:00 (link to chat)What is the market for Andruw Jones? Can't the Dodgers just eat that thing and ship him off to another team for ~5 mil/yr. I can't help but wonder what an in shape Jones would look like in a Cubby uniform. 2006 was not that long ago.
(Matt from UW)
Actually, I suggest something along those very lines in today's TA, and involving the Windy City, no less, but on the South Side instead of Wrigleyville. (Christina Kahrl)
2008-10-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)What would you think of the Mets dealing Luis Castillo to the Dodgers for Andruw Jones in an exchange of bad contracts?
(stinkypete from Connecticut)
Luis Castillo played better defensively in the second half of the year, whereas Andruw Jones did his best to prove that 2007 was no fluke, and he in fact was capable of playing even worse. The Castillo contract is bad because they signed him and shouldn't have; they should have gone for a one-year stopgap. The Jones contract is beyond bad, more in the realm of terrible, so the Mets would be insane to swap. (Marc Normandin)
2008-08-13 14:00:00 (link to chat)I've started Disgaea on two separate occasion, but both times I got distracted and didn't end up finishing the story line even once. How much do I suck?
(Alex from The Dirtiest Dirty)
On an Andruw Jones 2008 level. (Kevin Goldstein)
2008-08-01 14:00:00 (link to chat)Worse signing: Darren Dreifort or Andruw Jones?
(Mike from la)
Dreifort by a country mile. Five years and $55 million in year 2000 dollars is a much bigger time and money commitment than two years and $36 million in 2007 dollars. It's really tough to do much damage with a two-year deal, though the peripheral decisions around the Jones one -- such as trading LaRoche -- certainly are testing that theory. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-05-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)Blake Dewitt keeps hitting for the Dodgers and now it looks like they're letting him stay and keeping LaRoche down at AAA. Stupid idea? Yank him once he cools off? Any recent precents where a long-awaited rookie got his chance, then got injured in Spring Training and another unheralded kid stole the job and had a ROY-caliber year? Lucky injuries: Andruw Jones and Nomar? Or is no injury ever good?
(chris from Los Angeles)
Man, a tough call at this point. LaRoche is obviously the better prospect, and he's doing his typical thing at Triple-A so far--not hitting for a high average, but drawing a ton of walks (25/7 K/BB ratio), for a line of .246/.444/.459. But I think the Dodgers are right to keep him down there for now. Here's a good quote on the situation from Nate Silver's recent article on third base prospects:

"If you decide to bench the 22-year-old kid who’s hitting .317, that’s going to leave the kid wondering whether he’s going to get a fair shake in your organization and may poison his development. So LaRoche is going to have to bide his time a little while longer, but make no mistake--he’s the stronger prospect than DeWitt. DeWitt’s 90th percentile batting line gives him a .273 EqA, roughly equal in value to LaRoche’s 25th percentile batting line (.270 EqA)."

So I think you basically keep LaRoche in the minors until Dewitt cools off. I've been trying to think of another similar situation to the LaRoche-Dewitt, thing, and can't come up with anything, but I'm sure there have been other times.

As far as injuries: Nomar's was I think pretty fortunate, and it would probably help the Dodgers if he just retired right now, given the LaRoche/Dewitt situation and Nomar's dying bat. Andruw Jones' troubles are more problematic. Pierre has a .355 OBP but has still been well below average offensively, so the Dodgers really need Jones to get healthy and start hitting to keep center field from being a sinkhole. (Caleb Peiffer)
2008-05-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)Is Gomez's May #'s .318 .375 .545 a career month or a real trend into a really good player. What do you think Gomez's upside is?
(Mike from Minn)
What he's done so far at age 22 is pretty impressive. Let's see what the man himself has to say:

"Now I'm a leadoff hitter, but I'm 22. When I get to be 25, my body will be bigger and I'll be hitting home runs. I can be like an Andruw Jones or a Torii Hunter and hit third in a lineup. I don't think I'll be a leadoff hitter forever, no way."
http://baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=7540

You gotta love that confidence! (Caleb Peiffer)
2008-05-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)Three questions: 1) For my Cubs lovin' wife, are the Northsiders for real? They've done well so far, but what are their big questions down the stretch? 2) Is there any light at the end of the Andruw Jones tunnel, or is that the sound of a diesel locomotive? 3) Joe Torre: great manager, or *greatest* manager? Seriously, look at Friday's Dodgers lineup: how could he expect to win?
(scareduck from Still closer to Angel Stadium than Chavez Ravine)
Cubs: for real. Their run differential is the best in all of baseball by a wide margin, and I don't see any of the other NL Central teams being able to hang with them. I think the big questions are whether Rich Hill rediscovers his control and returns to the rotation, and whether Kerry Wood can hold up as the team's closer. Barring injuries, I think they'll be OK, and even with those injuries, they have a bit of depth to either cover from within or make a trade to help themselves out.

Andruw: lots of questions about him today. The upside of his injury is that it may explain some of his struggles, it may force him to get back in shape as he rehabs, and it will give Dodger fans a bit of relief when it comes to the daily drama of the outfield lineup.

Torre: Furcal being hurt certainly takes a bite out of that lineup. But really, Torre's going to have to get over this Russell Martin-at-3B fetish, even though it's only been a total of 37 innings he's played there. It's fine to give him a breather now and then, but when you're stealing at-bats from DeWitt or LaRoche to give them to Gary Bennett, something is definitely wrong. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-04-29 14:00:00 (link to chat)Marc, Needless to say I am displessed with Andruw Jones' "performance" this year. Will he turn it around? Would you dump him for Gomez, Cameron, Cuddyer or Crisp?
(joe from michigan)
I assumed he would bounce back slightly this year, though not to an All-Star level. That had to do with his .248 BABIP, but he looks terrible this year, with an even worse BABIP and a K% over 35%. It might be safe to say that Chipper Jones' post-peak years have gone better than Andruw's :-) (Marc Normandin)
2008-04-29 14:00:00 (link to chat)Do the contracts given to Andruw Jones and Juan Pierre represent the worst two-step approach to solving one problem in the history of the game? What terror-alert color would you assign to Ned Coletti's job security.
(jody reed from dodgertown)

1. Sign washed up players.
2. "?"
3. Profit. (Marc Normandin)
2008-04-25 15:00:00 (link to chat)What are the odds of the Dodgers being able to trade Pierre in-season? This 4 man platoon OF is killing us. What's the point of naming Ethier, Jones, and Kemp starters if Torre is just going to play Pierre all the time (and Kemp's usually the one on the bench because of it)? Fantasy baseball implications aside, this just doesn't seem like a good situation for the Dodgers.
(Rich from Columbus, OH)
I don't think the chances of Pierre being traded are very good at all, because that contract is an albatross, and it's abundantly clear he's no center fielder anymore. And yes, this is a pretty ridiculous situation, but the fact that Andruw Jones is stuck below the Mendoza Line isn't helping matters at all. Kemp got off to a slow start but has turned it around somewhat, and if all three outfielders can hit at a level approaching their capabilities there will be no room for little Juan. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-05-01 13:00:00 (link to chat)Do you think Chris Young could have a long career having .230 batting averages year after year? Even if he's a 30/30 player each year?
(qwerty from poiuque)
Rob Deer with speed and the ability to play a plus center field. That's more or less the shape of Andruw Jones' career, right? (Joe Sheehan)
2008-04-01 14:00:00 (link to chat)At a season ticket holder's forum on Saturday, the O's GM MacPhail said that the organization believes in slow and steady advancement of its young pitchers. As an example, he noted that despite an excellent season last year at A+ Frederick, Chorye Spoon was not invited to the major league camp and is likely to go to AA Bowie to begin this season. He said that he's hoping to get the Orioles to the position they were in in 1982-1983 when Mike Boddicker could not break his way into the majors until he was 29 (in 1983),but when he did come up he was really ready. What are your thoughts on that philosophy of development. It's sure a change from the philosophy that brought up Daniel Cabrera from A ball in the middle of the season!
(TGisriel from Baltimore)
Actually, Boddicker was 25 in 83, and got brief looks in each of the three previous years. Luckily, the 40-man roster and option systems prevent the O's from hording prospects in the minors until they're all 29 and 'really ready.' Really ready is a totally realative term and each player is different. Wasn't Andruw Jones really ready at 19? Griffey? (Kevin Goldstein)
2008-03-26 12:00:00 (link to chat)How good do you think Adam Jones is? There's been alot of talk that the Mariners were better with him than Bedard. I keep thinking Andruw Jones or Vernon Wells. Am I right?
(hanley from not boston)
Adam Jones is fantastic, and I still don't like that trade for Seattle. Jones is truly fantastic defensively, and then even if he hits at about 80% of Vernon Wells, he's just as valuable (ok, that's hyperbolizing things, maybe). With the bat I go back and forth -- I've thought Vernon before, too, and sometimes I think maybe a bit less. Maybe Jones is going to be just like Aaron Rowand ... yeah, I think that's right on. (Bryan Smith)
2008-03-18 17:00:00 (link to chat)Jim, What does your crystal ball see in 2008 for Manny, Abreu and Andruw Jones ? Thanks.
(joe from mich)
I think Manny Ramirez will have a better year in 2008 than he did last year. I think Abreu will be about the same, perhaps a little worse, as he is getting into the decline phase of his career, and I think Jones will look better on paper but that we have seen the best he has to offer. Jones should hit more homers because Dodger Stadium treats folks that way, but the extra weight is troubling. All of these players are in the 2008 Prospectus Matchups Contest I'm currently running, which leads me to this next question.... (Jim Baker)
2008-03-06 13:00:00 (link to chat)Can you address the Dodgers situation? Re-signing Nomar? Bringing in Andruw Jones to push Kemp even farther down the depth chart? Where does Delwyn Young play (if in the majors)? How about Hu? It seems like they have a MLB-ready prospect pushing up at every position.
(Peter from Staten Island)
Hey Pete!

You're right in that the Dodger system is loaded. GM Ned Colletti seems to have a knack for finding a veteran stiff to throw in the way of every near-ready prospect.

That said, the Dodgers didn't hesitate to push Nomar off 1B when James Loney got hot for them last year, and it's clear they now think of Kemp as a RF rather than a CF. It's Andre Ethier who's likely feeling the biggest pinch in the outfield right now.

As for Delwyn Young, that's a good question. He was moved off 2B because he wasn't considered an adequate defender (-14 FRAA at Double-A in 2005), and while he may help there in a pinch, long term he's going to need an outfield spot. I don't think that will happen for him in LA barring a slew of injuries; the best he can hope for is that as a switch-hitter he becomes a staple of the team's bench. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-02-29 13:00:00 (link to chat)I know that way back when, Hamilton was throwing 95 mph. Is his outfield arm still 80 on the scouting scale?
(Or from Dallas)
A throwing question right off the bat, excellent.

In the essay "Expanding the Cannon" that you'll find in BP2K8 you'll see that among center fielders Josh Hamilton ranked 5th at +3.9 runs saved with his arm. That metric is composed of four components: hit advancement, throwing out runners stretching, fly ball advancement, and "other". Hamilton did well in both hit advancement and fly ball advancement (by virtue of just 4 of 35 runners advancing) although in 145 stretch opportunities he didn't nab anyone.

Of course he did all of this in just 62 adjusted games. In the essay I also describe the rate statistic scaled to 550 opportunities and there he ended up at +8.9 behind a few other guys with limited playing time (for example Jason Lane and Jacque Jones who had 29 and 72 adjusted games in center respectively. Among centerfielders who played more Ichiro Suzuki came out on top at +6.0 in 149 adjusted games with Andruw Jones and Bill Hall next in line.

By all accounts he does have a fine arm but of course in a smaller sample like this I would take these results with a grain of salt. It'll be interesting to see what he does with even more playing time in Texas in 2008. (Dan Fox)
2008-01-25 13:30:00 (link to chat)What's the likely defensive difference between Juan Pierre and Matt Kemp in CF this year? Offensively, it's obvious, and even defensively, it seems clear that Kemp would be an upgrade, but how much? Could Kemp hold his own in CF, or is he destined to play a corner? Thanks!
(jromero from seattle)
So did I miss something or is Andruw Jones not playing CF in Los Angeles this summer?

But to your question, while everyone knows that Pierre has a poor arm I was a little surprised in center field (where the magnitude of the difference a player can make with his arm is constrained) that he rated so poorly at -7 runs to go along with his -8 runs in the beta version of SFR for outfielders.

Simply by replacing Pierre with anyone the difference is likely to be a win or two on the defensive side.

In CF Kem played very sparingly there in 2007 so there are no numbers that I have that would reflect his skill there. In right field, however, he was below average both in SFR and throwing so my guess is that he's not in CF for a reason. (Dan Fox)


BP Roundtables

DateRoundtable NameComment
2010-04-05 09:30:00Season Opener RoundtableThe White Sox could use a DH that's a better hitter than Andruw Jones. That doesn't mean much of anything, though - if you're willing to pass on Thome's bat, you're probably not interested in Cust. (Colin Wyers)
2009-10-21 17:00:00NLCS Game 5AJM (Lone Star State): What about Vlad going to Texas to DH, replacing the dynamic duo of Andruw Jones and Hank Blalock?

What is this, an Enron joke? Dynamic:Hank Blalock::Sparklessness:Batteries.

I figure a reunion of Ron Washington's Rangers and Milton Bradley still makes a lot more sense, especially if you get the Cubs to eat cro^^^^HHHH... money on the exchange. (Christina Kahrl)
2008-10-02 11:00:00Thursday Playoff GamesChristina,

I though Andruw Jones did that, but then I remembered it was his first two world series at-bats. (Kevin Goldstein)
 

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