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Portrait of Mike Cameron

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Career Summary
Years PA AVG OBP SLG TAv WARP
17 7884 .249 .338 .444 .275 45.7
Birth Date1-8-1973
Height6' 2"
Weight210 lbs
BatsR
ThrowsR
WARP Summary

Standard

YEAR TEAM AGE G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR TB BB SO HBP SF SH RBI SB CS AVG OBP SLG TAv VORP FRAA WARP
1995 CHA 22 28 44 38 4 7 2 0 1 12 3 15 0 0 3 2 0 0 .184 .244 .316 .219 -1.1 0.6 -0.0
1996 CHA 23 11 12 11 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 .091 .167 .091 .101 -1.9 -0.2 -0.2
1997 CHA 24 116 446 379 63 98 18 3 14 164 55 105 5 5 2 55 23 2 .259 .356 .433 .275 20.0 8.6 2.8
1998 CHA 25 141 443 396 53 83 16 5 8 133 37 101 6 3 1 43 27 11 .210 .285 .336 .219 -7.9 8.2 0.0
1999 CIN 26 146 636 542 93 139 34 9 21 254 80 145 6 3 5 66 38 12 .256 .357 .469 .274 34.9 5.3 3.8
2000 SEA 27 155 643 543 96 145 28 4 19 238 78 133 9 6 7 78 24 7 .267 .365 .438 .276 38.4 6.6 4.2
2001 SEA 28 150 633 540 99 144 30 5 25 259 69 155 10 13 1 110 34 5 .267 .353 .480 .289 37.5 5.3 4.2
2002 SEA 29 158 640 545 84 130 26 5 25 241 79 176 7 5 4 80 31 8 .239 .340 .442 .281 30.3 2.5 3.3
2003 SEA 30 147 612 534 74 135 31 5 18 230 70 137 5 2 1 76 17 7 .253 .344 .431 .274 29.2 26.7 5.5
2004 NYN 31 140 562 493 76 114 30 1 30 236 57 143 8 3 1 76 22 6 .231 .319 .479 .275 34.4 5.2 3.9
2005 NYN 32 76 343 308 47 84 23 2 12 147 29 85 4 1 1 39 13 1 .273 .342 .477 .294 19.7 -1.1 1.9
2006 SDN 33 141 634 552 88 148 34 9 22 266 71 142 6 5 0 83 25 9 .268 .355 .482 .312 54.5 7.2 6.0
2007 SDN 34 151 651 571 88 138 33 6 21 246 67 160 8 3 2 78 18 5 .242 .328 .431 .276 35.6 -2.8 3.2
2008 MIL 35 120 508 444 69 108 25 2 25 212 54 142 6 3 1 70 17 5 .243 .331 .477 .279 26.8 -0.3 2.7
2009 MIL 36 149 628 544 78 136 32 3 24 246 75 156 4 5 0 70 7 3 .250 .342 .452 .273 24.5 10.1 3.5
2010 BOS 37 48 180 162 24 42 11 0 4 65 14 44 3 1 0 15 0 1 .259 .328 .401 .256 6.0 -0.1 0.6
2011 BOS 38 33 105 94 9 14 2 0 3 25 8 25 0 2 1 9 0 0 .149 .212 .266 .173 -7.3 1.2 -0.7
2011 FLO 38 45 164 143 18 34 8 0 6 60 20 34 0 0 1 18 1 0 .238 .331 .420 .273 7.7 1.1 0.9
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Advanced

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg G PA TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP BPF BRAA repLVL POS_ADJ FRAA BRR BVORP BWARP VORP WARP
1992 SBN A 35 132 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .316 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1992 UTI A- 28 100 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .367 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1993 SBN A 122 451 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .314 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1994 PRW A+ 131 538 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .303 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1995 CHA MLB 28 44 .219 .271 .348 .425 .269 .273 98 -2 1.3 -0.4 0.6 0.1 -1.1 -0.0 -1.1 -0.0
1995 BIR AA 107 419 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .317 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1996 CHA MLB 11 12 .101 .298 .360 .481 .280 .125 100 -2.2 0.4 0 -0.2 -0.0 -1.9 -0.2 -1.9 -0.2
1996 BIR AA 123 563 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .344 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1997 CHA MLB 116 446 .275 .272 .340 .430 .266 .317 96 7.1 12.3 0.6 8.6 0.7 20.0 2.8 20.0 2.8
1997 NAS AAA 0 141 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .325 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1998 CHA MLB 141 443 .219 .268 .335 .426 .263 .259 101 -20.1 12.1 1.1 8.2 2.6 -7.9 0.0 -7.9 0.0
1999 CIN MLB 146 636 .274 .270 .340 .432 .260 .311 101 10.7 17.3 1.8 5.3 4.3 34.9 3.8 34.9 3.8
2000 SEA MLB 155 643 .276 .274 .344 .438 .263 .317 90 12.4 18.2 1.8 6.6 4.1 38.4 4.2 38.4 4.2
2001 SEA MLB 150 633 .289 .268 .332 .428 .262 .319 95 19.8 17.3 1.6 5.3 1.1 37.5 4.2 37.5 4.2
2002 SEA MLB 158 640 .281 .264 .331 .423 .264 .301 95 14.3 17.1 1.7 2.5 -0.4 30.3 3.3 30.3 3.3
2003 SEA MLB 147 612 .274 .266 .332 .426 .264 .307 98 9.4 16.7 1.6 26.7 2.8 29.2 5.5 29.2 5.5
2004 NYN MLB 140 562 .275 .265 .328 .428 .262 .260 93 9.5 16.7 1.5 5.2 3.0 34.4 3.9 34.4 3.9
2005 NYN MLB 76 343 .294 .267 .330 .422 .262 .340 94 12.5 9.9 -3.1 -1.1 -0.5 19.7 1.9 19.7 1.9
2005 SLU A+ 4 15 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .429 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2005 NOR AAA 2 10 .386 .321 .371 .512 .317 .500 90 1.5 0.3 -0.1 -0.1 0.1 1.4 0.1 1.4 0.1
2006 SDN MLB 141 634 .312 .269 .333 .431 .264 .321 85 36.6 19.1 1.7 7.2 -1.9 54.5 6.0 54.5 6.0
2006 LEL A+ 2 7 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .500 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2007 SDN MLB 151 651 .276 .268 .333 .425 .259 .298 88 11.7 19.3 1.7 -2.8 4.1 35.6 3.2 35.6 3.2
2008 MIL MLB 120 508 .279 .262 .329 .418 .262 .296 100 10.3 14.7 1.3 -0.3 0.6 26.8 2.7 26.8 2.7
2008 NAS AAA 4 18 .399 .276 .348 .431 .256 .200 102 2.9 0.6 0.1 0.2 0.0 3.5 0.4 3.5 0.4
2009 MIL MLB 149 628 .273 .261 .330 .415 .263 .304 98 8.9 18.1 1.6 10.1 -1.3 24.5 3.5 24.5 3.5
2010 BOS MLB 48 180 .256 .254 .317 .403 .254 .330 109 -0.7 5.0 0.4 -0.1 0.0 6.0 0.6 6.0 0.6
2010 PME AA 3 13 .413 .248 .324 .380 .250 .429 114 2.1 0.4 0 -0.1 -0.0 2.6 0.3 2.6 0.3
2010 PAW AAA 5 19 .371 .249 .319 .371 .246 .333 85 2.4 0.6 -0.2 -0.0 0.3 3.5 0.3 3.5 0.3
2011 BOS MLB 33 105 .173 .261 .322 .400 .264 .162 109 -9 2.8 -0.9 1.2 0.2 -7.3 -0.7 -7.3 -0.7
2011 FLO MLB 45 164 .273 .253 .315 .389 .260 .272 94 2.1 4.4 0.4 1.1 1.2 7.7 0.9 7.7 0.9

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG ISO TAv VORP FRAA WARP
1992 UTI A- 100 15 24 1 4 2 12 11 26 3 7 .276 .354 .448 .172 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1992 SBN A 132 19 26 8 1 1 9 10 37 2 3 .228 .305 .342 .114 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1993 SBN A 451 52 98 14 5 0 30 27 101 19 10 .238 .294 .297 .058 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1994 PRW A+ 538 86 116 15 17 6 48 60 101 22 10 .248 .342 .391 .143 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1995 CHA MLB 44 4 7 2 0 1 2 3 15 0 0 .184 .244 .316 .132 .219 -1.1 0.6 -0.0
1995 BIR AA 419 64 87 20 5 11 60 54 104 21 12 .249 .354 .429 .180 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1996 CHA MLB 12 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 3 0 1 .091 .167 .091 .000 .101 -1.9 -0.2 -0.2
1996 BIR AA 563 120 142 34 12 28 77 71 117 39 15 .300 .403 .600 .300 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1997 CHA MLB 446 63 98 18 3 14 55 55 105 23 2 .259 .356 .433 .174 .275 20.0 8.6 2.8
1997 NAS AAA 141 21 33 7 3 6 17 18 31 4 2 .275 .383 .533 .258 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1998 CHA MLB 443 53 83 16 5 8 43 37 101 27 11 .210 .285 .336 .126 .219 -7.9 8.2 0.0
1999 CIN MLB 636 93 139 34 9 21 66 80 145 38 12 .256 .357 .469 .212 .274 34.9 5.3 3.8
2000 SEA MLB 643 96 145 28 4 19 78 78 133 24 7 .267 .365 .438 .171 .276 38.4 6.6 4.2
2001 SEA MLB 633 99 144 30 5 25 110 69 155 34 5 .267 .353 .480 .213 .289 37.5 5.3 4.2
2002 SEA MLB 640 84 130 26 5 25 80 79 176 31 8 .239 .340 .442 .204 .281 30.3 2.5 3.3
2003 SEA MLB 612 74 135 31 5 18 76 70 137 17 7 .253 .344 .431 .178 .274 29.2 26.7 5.5
2004 NYN MLB 562 76 114 30 1 30 76 57 143 22 6 .231 .319 .479 .247 .275 34.4 5.2 3.9
2005 NOR AAA 10 2 2 0 1 0 2 3 3 0 0 .286 .500 .571 .286 .386 1.4 -0.1 0.1
2005 NYN MLB 343 47 84 23 2 12 39 29 85 13 1 .273 .342 .477 .205 .294 19.7 -1.1 1.9
2005 SLU A+ 15 3 3 2 0 0 0 3 3 0 0 .300 .533 .500 .200 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
2006 SDN MLB 634 88 148 34 9 22 83 71 142 25 9 .268 .355 .482 .214 .312 54.5 7.2 6.0
2006 LEL A+ 7 1 2 1 0 0 1 1 2 0 0 .333 .429 .500 .167 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
2007 SDN MLB 651 88 138 33 6 21 78 67 160 18 5 .242 .328 .431 .189 .276 35.6 -2.8 3.2
2008 NAS AAA 18 4 3 0 0 1 2 3 4 0 0 .200 .333 .400 .200 .399 3.5 0.2 0.4
2008 MIL MLB 508 69 108 25 2 25 70 54 142 17 5 .243 .331 .477 .234 .279 26.8 -0.3 2.7
2009 MIL MLB 628 78 136 32 3 24 70 75 156 7 3 .250 .342 .452 .202 .273 24.5 10.1 3.5
2010 BOS MLB 180 24 42 11 0 4 15 14 44 0 1 .259 .328 .401 .142 .256 6.0 -0.1 0.6
2010 PME AA 13 4 5 2 0 2 3 0 4 0 0 .385 .385 1.000 .615 .413 2.6 -0.1 0.3
2010 PAW AAA 19 3 4 1 0 1 3 4 4 0 0 .286 .444 .571 .286 .371 3.5 -0.0 0.3
2011 BOS MLB 105 9 14 2 0 3 9 8 25 0 0 .149 .212 .266 .117 .173 -7.3 1.2 -0.7
2011 FLO MLB 164 18 34 8 0 6 18 20 34 1 0 .238 .331 .420 .182 .273 7.7 1.1 0.9

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT
2008 2046 0.5127 0.4140 0.7580 0.6101 0.2076 0.8344 0.5217 0.2409
2009 2447 0.5194 0.4042 0.7674 0.5869 0.2066 0.8351 0.5597 0.2326
2010 681 0.5389 0.4273 0.7595 0.5913 0.2357 0.8295 0.5541 0.2405
2011 1099 0.5132 0.4004 0.8023 0.5904 0.2000 0.8589 0.6262 0.1977
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Injury History

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2011-09-07 2011-09-12 DTD 5 4 Right Thigh Soreness Hamstring - -
2011-08-11 2011-08-14 DTD 3 2 Right Knee Soreness - -
2011-08-06 2011-08-06 DTD 0 0 Left Wrist Sprain Diving Catch - -
2011-03-04 2011-03-10 Camp 6 0 Left Knee Inflammation Tendonitis -
2010-07-31 2010-10-04 60-DL 65 59 Bilateral Surgery Double Sports Hernia and Adductor Release 2010-08-27
2010-07-11 2010-07-15 DTD 4 1 Right Wrist Contusion HBP -
2010-07-04 2010-07-05 DTD 1 1 - Abdomen Soreness - -
2010-07-01 2010-07-03 DTD 2 1 Abdomen Soreness -
2010-06-27 2010-06-29 DTD 2 1 - Abdomen Soreness - -
2010-06-07 2010-06-08 DTD 1 1 - Abdomen Soreness - -
2010-05-31 2010-06-06 DTD 6 5 Left Abdomen Soreness -
2010-04-19 2010-05-25 15-DL 36 34 Bilateral Sports Hernia -
2010-04-15 2010-04-16 DTD 1 1 Right General Medical Illness Genitourinary -
2010-02-27 2010-03-05 Camp 6 0 Left Groin Soreness -
2009-10-04 2009-10-05 DTD 1 1 Head Concussion Diving for Ball -
2009-09-06 2009-09-11 DTD 5 4 Right Thigh Strain Hamstring -
2009-06-02 2009-06-03 DTD 1 1 Left Knee Soreness -
2009-03-10 2009-03-16 Camp 6 0 Left Trunk Strain Rib Cage -
2008-09-06 2008-09-08 DTD 2 2 Left Knee Soreness -
2008-06-19 2008-06-23 DTD 4 4 Right Sprain Big Toe -
2007-09-24 2007-10-01 DTD 7 7 Right Thumb Sprain Ligament and Volar Plate -
2007-09-16 2007-09-17 DTD 1 1 Left Knee Soreness -
2007-06-16 2007-06-17 DTD 1 1 Left Forearm Contusion - -
2007-06-09 2007-06-09 DTD 0 0 Left Wrist Contusion -
2007-06-02 2007-06-02 DTD 0 0 - Thigh Tightness Hamstring - -
2007-03-26 2007-04-03 Camp 8 0 Right Thigh Strain Hamstring -
2006-10-01 2006-10-01 DTD 0 0 - Wrist Soreness - -
2006-09-14 2006-09-14 DTD 0 0 Left Knee Contusion - -
2006-07-27 2006-07-27 DTD 0 0 Knee Contusion Sliding -
2006-05-07 2006-05-08 DTD 1 1 General Medical Respiratory Flu -
2006-03-24 2006-04-23 15-DL 30 17 Left Abdomen Strain Oblique -
2005-08-12 2005-10-03 60-DL 52 48 Face Surgery Multiple Fractures From Player Collision In Field 2005-08-12
2005-08-12 2005-08-12 On-Alr 0 0 Head Concussion Player Collision While Fielding -
2005-07-03 2005-07-03 DTD 0 0 Right Knee Contusion HBP -
2005-06-14 2005-06-14 On-Alr 0 0 Left Fingers Dislocation Ring Finger - -
2005-06-13 2005-06-22 DTD 9 7 Right Thigh Strain Quadriceps -
2005-06-06 2005-06-07 DTD 1 0 Right Thigh Tightness Quadriceps - -
2005-04-01 2005-05-05 15-DL 34 28 Left Wrist Inflammation Tendonitis with Cortisone on April 2 -
2004-12-17 2004-12-17 Off 0 0 Left Wrist Surgery Cartilage 2004-12-17
2004-09-29 2004-10-02 DTD 3 2 Left Wrist Soreness - -
2004-09-25 2004-09-26 DTD 1 1 Left Wrist Soreness - -
2004-09-22 2004-09-23 DTD 1 1 Left Wrist Sprain -
2004-08-29 2004-09-07 DTD 9 8 General Medical Illness Virus -
2004-07-01 2004-07-01 On-Alr 0 0 Groin Soreness -
2004-07-01 2004-07-05 DTD 4 4 Knee Soreness -
2004-06-02 2004-06-02 DTD 0 0 Right Fingers Strain Pinkie Finger From May 4 -
2004-05-30 2004-05-31 DTD 1 1 Shoulder Contusion Player Collision -
2004-05-19 2004-05-19 DTD 0 0 Right Fingers Sprain Little Finger Ligament Tear -
2004-05-06 2004-05-08 DTD 2 2 Right Hand Sprain Little Finger Sliding -
2004-04-25 2004-04-27 DTD 2 1 Right Thigh Soreness Hamstring -
2004-04-15 2004-04-15 DTD 0 0 Right Thigh Tightness - -
2004-02-23 2004-02-26 Camp 3 0 Right Bone Spur Big Toe -
2003-12-17 2003-12-17 Off 0 0 Left Wrist Surgery Cartilage 2003-12-17 -
2003-08-14 2003-08-20 DTD 6 5 Left Groin Strain -
2003-04-24 2003-04-30 DTD 6 5 Right Groin Strain -
2003-03-27 2003-03-30 Camp 3 0 Left Knee Hyperextension - -
2002-04-18 2002-04-20 DTD 2 1 - General Medical Illness - -
2002-03-14 2002-03-18 Camp 4 0 - Low Back Spasms - -
2001-08-16 2001-08-17 DTD 1 1 - Knee Tendonitis Patellar Tendonitis - -
2001-06-06 2001-06-12 DTD 6 4 Left Knee Sprain MCL - -
2001-05-09 2001-05-11 DTD 2 2 Right Knee Contusion Running Into Wall - -
2001-04-18 2001-04-18 DTD 0 0 - Neck Stiffness - -
2000-07-06 2000-07-08 DTD 2 2 Left Knee Stiffness - -
2000-04-27 2000-04-29 DTD 2 1 Left Fingers Recovery From Previous Injury Sprain Ring Finger Sliding - -
2000-04-26 2000-04-26 DTD 0 0 Left Fingers Sprain Ring Finger Sliding - -
2000-04-22 2000-04-23 DTD 1 1 Left Knee Contusion Foul Ball - -
2000-04-19 2000-04-21 DTD 2 1 - Knee Hyperextension - -
1999-10-03 1999-10-04 DTD 1 1 - Thigh Strain Hamstring - -
1999-08-28 1999-09-07 DTD 10 9 Left Thigh Strain Hamstring - -
1999-07-03 1999-07-03 DTD 0 0 - Hip Contusion - -
1998-04-16 1998-04-21 DTD 5 4 Left Thigh Strain Quadriceps - -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2011 BOS $7,750,000
2010 BOS $7,750,000
2009 MIL $10,000,000
2008 MIL $7,000,000
2007 SDN $7,000,000
2006 SDN $6,000,000
2005 NYN $6,000,000
2004 NYN $4,000,000
2003 SEA $7,000,000
2002 SEA $4,666,667
2001 SEA $3,416,667
2000 SEA $2,225,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
12 yrPrevious$72,808,334
12 yrTotal$72,808,334

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
15 y 31 dMike Nicotera1 year (2012)

Details
  • 1 year (2012). Signed by Washington as a free agent 12/19/11 (minor-league contract). Retired 2/19/12.
  • 2 year/$15.5M (2010-11). Signed by Boston as a free agent 12/16/09. $1M signing bonus. 10:$7.25M, 11:$7.25M. Acquired by Florida in trade 7/5/11 after being DFA by Boston 6/30/11 (Marlins to pay pro-rated ML minimum, with Red Sox picking up balance of 2011 salary). Released by Florida 9/13/11.
  • 1 year/$7M (2008), plus 2009 club option. Signed by Milwaukee as a free agent 1/11/08. $1.5M signing bonus. 08:$5M, 09:$10M club option, $0.75M buyout. Performance bonuses: $0.75M/year based on PAs. Limited no-trade protection. Milwaukee exercised 2009 club option 11/3/08.
  • 3 years/$19.5M (2004-06), plus 2007 club option. $3M signing bonus, 04:$4M, 05:$6M, 06:$6M, 07:$7M club option, $0.5M buyout. Award bonus: $50,000 for Gold Glove. Acquired in trade from NY Mets 11/05. San Diego exercised 2007 option 10/06.
  • 3 year/$15.5 (2001-03). $1.25M signing bonus. 01:$3M, 02:$4.25M, 03:$7M.

2014 Preseason Forecast

Last Update: 3/11/2014 05:35 ET

PCT PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG TAv VORP FRAA WARP
Weighted Mean???????????.000.000.000.0000.0?0.0

Diagnostics

Breakout Rate Improve Rate Collapse Rate Attrition Rate MLB %
0% 0% 0% 0% 0%

Upside By Year

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Comparable Players (Similarity Index )

Rank Score Name Year TAv Trend

BP Annual Player Comments

YearComment
2012 The end of the line may have come for the 17-year veteran, who drew his release from the Marlins in mid-September following an altercation with a flight attendant on a team charter. Cameron's season totals weren't pretty, but he did pick things up offensively after the Marlins acquired him from Boston on July 5. If 2011 was his swan song, Cameron would walk away as one of the most productive and under-acknowledged players of the last decade and a half, registering the third-highest FRAA and 13th-best WARP among outfielders since 1997. But he signed a minor-league deal with the Nationals and will try to win a job in the spring.
2011 At one point in the season, the Red Sox had enough outfield injuries that the best replacement for an injured Mike Cameron was an injured Mike Cameron. Although he tried to stay on the field long enough for Jacoby Ellsbury to replace him, Cameron wasn't of much use in center with a torn muscle in his abdomen that ultimately required a four-and-a-half-hour surgery to fix. He still had good reads on balls hit to the outfield, but his normally excellent jumps and range were diminished. Cameron will patrol left field for Boston in 2011, as Ellsbury is being viewed as the everyday center fielder once again. The shift to a less demanding defensive position could keep Cameron healthy—the last time he played through injury and struggled for an extended period was 2007, and while he bounced back fine, he wasn't 38 in 2008.
2010 At age 37, Cameron continues to play a superlative center field and provides continuing value at the plate, drawing walks, hitting home runs, and posting low batting averages due to a high strikeout rate. How long he can thumb his nose at Father Time is an open question, as a drop in stolen bases and increase in double plays points to a loss of speed, and his .244/.318/.430 line against righties continues a worrisome trend. Cameron certainly earned his sizable paycheck in Milwaukee, but the acquisition of Carlos Gomez made letting him leave as a free agent easier. The Red Sox signed him to a two-year deal worth between $15 and $16 million with the intention of upgrading their miserable '09 outfield defense. They have yet to specify if he will be the everyday center fielder, but since Jacoby Ellsbury plays center field as if he were lost in a hedge maze, they would reap huge benefits if they let Cameron push the younger man to left field.
2009 Because center field was one of the weaker links in a porous defense in 2007, the Brewers signed Cameron to a one-year, $7 million deal well aware that he’d miss the first 25 games due to a suspension for testing positive for a banned stimulant. Though Cameron started slowly upon returning, by the end he’d reeled off a fairly typical offensive season. Cameron’s low batting average and OBP are products of low contact rates; he more than compensates for his strikeout rates by rarely grounding into double plays (just four times last year) and a healthy blend of power and speed. As for his defense, he remains above average, with other metrics like UZR and Plus/Minus viewing him more charitably than our own. All in all, he remains a reasonable investment even at the $10 million price of his 2009 option, but teams should keep an eye on his production vs. right-handers.
2008 There was muted reaction to the news that Cameron, one of the game's nice guys, would be suspended for the first 25 games of the 2008 season after twice testing positive for a banned stimulant. The lack of outrage reinforces the notion that the drugs-in-baseball story is about personalities more than anything else. Cameron has struggled to find an employer, which has more to do with the depth of the off-season center-field pool than his suspension. At 35 and in decline, he's a risky investment.
2007 Despite starting the season on the DL with a strained oblique and then putting up a really ugly first two months (.239/.323/.310), Cameron enjoyed his best season since 2001. In so doing, he dispatched fears of any lingering effects from his frightening outfield collision with Carlos Beltran in 2005; he also proved he`s still got it in center field. With only one year left on his contract, he presents an interesting problem for management--he`s aging well, but if he loses a step and moves to a corner after 2007, he`ll go from offensive asset to offensive problem. On the other hand, the organization has nobody ready to take his place, which means they`ll still be in the market if they let him walk.
2006 Before the collision with Beltran, his hitting was right in line with the rest of his career, but his defense had suffered terribly as a result of the move to right. This is counterintuitive to our general understanding of the game: we assume a move from a tougher defensive position will result in an improvement, especially in the outfield. A move back to center in San Diego should see him snap back to his old form. Petco will be the third consecutive pitchers` park that he`ll have called home. He`s held his own so far, since his lowest EqA in the past seven seasons has been a respectable .271.
2005 He didn't take well to Shea Stadium with the bat or, oddly, the glove. Cameron's strikeout rate was the same at Shea and on the road, so if it was a visibility thing, it didn't manifest itself that way. Damaged cartilage in his left wrist required off-season surgery and will keep him off the field until late April. Wrist injuries can affect power, which is about all Cameron has going for him at the plate these days, so beware. Ticketed for right field on Opening Day with Beltran in center, assuming that Cameron hasn't been traded by then.
2003 Why aren’t teams more active in getting their players medical care? Cameron complained at the start of the year that he was having trouble picking up the spin and movement on pitches, and it took months for the team to get him help. It turned out that his right eye was badly messed up, having become a different shape than the left from an injury that might go back to a ball he took to the orbital bone years ago in the minors. Cameron’s vision in that eye had deteriorated dramatically. He was fitted for a right-eye-only contact, but how long does it take to adjust to that kind of thing, mid-season, to really get to the point where you’re seeing well? The difference between being a great hitter and a bad one is so very fine, and a player’s sight so important, that it’s hard to believe, months later, that it took as long as it did for the team to get him to a good optometrist.

Cameron needs to get traded. He hits so badly in Safeco, so far below even what park effects would predict, and has done so for so long, that it’s obvious that it is just not his park. If he had played anywhere else this year, instead of calling him one of the season’s biggest disappointments, he’d still be lauded as one of baseball’s premier center fielders. Even with his home field and eye problems, he was still the 8th-best at the position offensively while playing his usual outstanding defense.

Having hit four home runs in the game, already tying the major league record, in his fifth at-bat, Cameron was up with a 3–0 count, and took a strike right down the middle. Faced with the choice between hacking at the pitch, which no one would have blamed him for, and playing the game, forsaking the record to get on base again, Cameron watched the pitch go by. You want an unselfish, giving player? Here he is.
2002 We told you last year’s projection was way low, and that Cameron would continue to improve as he learns from Edgar Martinez. Identifiable by his slightly askew hat, Cameron is an elite two-way center fielder, the best outfielder on the team, and the Mariner most likely to pie Boone’s face during postgame interviews. He was fed a diet of wicked breaking stuff in the ALCS and didn’t do much with it. He’s likely taking batting practice right now, working to ensure that it never happens again. Or he’s playing Sega.
2001 When Ken Griffey jilted the citizens of Seattle, their reaction could have run the gamut froma desire for revenge to a strong urge to make it with someone else. Mike Cameron’s bubbly personality and better-than-Griffey play in center field made it easy for Mariners' fans to put away their guns and choose the latter. With the release of Rickey Henderson, the Mariners are searching for a leadoff hitter and could do much worse than Cameron. Using him, however, would require them to realize that a strikeout is basically the same as any other kind of out. That translation is way low: Wilton doesn’t factor in Cameron's eager tutelage at the feet of Edgar Martinez.
2000 This was a good gamble by the Reds: picking up a part they needed--a center fielder--for Paul Konerko, a talented hitter whom they weren’t sure what to do with. Cameron has power, speed, plate discipline and is a good defensive center fielder, so even in a year in which he hits .250, he’s a considerable asset. If he hits .280, he’s a star. I expect him to approach that level and be one of the best center fielders in the league this year.
1998 Sox fans, this is a great player, so treasure him and enjoy the ride. The best defensive center fielder in the American League right now, Cameon has all the tools: plate discipline, power, defense, speed, you name it. For now, he is the most famous of minor league coach Von Joshua’s disciples.
1997 A top-notch center fielder and an excellent baserunner, Cameron was named the most exciting prospect in the Southern League. He should be the White Sox’ center fielder right now, but there’s talk of putting him in right, talk that unfortunately reflects the poor decision to sign both Darren Lewis and Dave Martinez. As dominating as he was last year, keep in mind it was his second year at Birmingham, which is usually a prompt for great-looking seasons.

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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2014-07-07 11:00:00 (link to chat)Michael Taylor's starting to look like our CF of the future. Is he a Mike Cameron clone?
(Jeffy from DC)
I really like Taylor. Huge tool collection that lacked much utility or consistency. Still some questions about the stick and how it ends up playing but I love the progress he has made. Big talent. (Jason Parks on the Top 50)
2014-02-13 13:00:00 (link to chat)Curious on HS player....and thoughts on Daz Cameron? Elite due to pedigree?
(Lou from DC)
Lou is talking about Mike Cameron's oldest son, Dazmon, a center fielder who won't be eligible until next draft. We're 16 months away, but he's the trendy pick to go first overall in 2015 due to his impressive set of tools and instincts. He has the chance to be really, really good and looks the part of an elite amateur prospect right now. (R.J. Anderson)
2012-02-23 11:00:00 (link to chat)Read recently that Chris Young was dinged all last season. Do you see him having a potential career year coming or is he a 'what you see is what you get' player?
(LoyalRoyal from Kansas)
I think Young has established himself as a low batting average guy with good secondary skills. The fact that he has learned to draw a few walks helps. With his mix of offensive skills and defensive prowess in center field, he'll provide value but not necessarily be appreciated for it. Kind of like Mike Cameron, only not as good as Cammy. (Geoff Young)
2012-02-23 11:00:00 (link to chat)What kind of player do you see Maybin becoming? Does he start hitting for more pop and become Mike Cameron, keep the ball on the ground and become Devon White, or does he become a mystery comp?
(Ria from The floor)
Maybin is a bit of a mystery. I'd expected more power, but he doesn't have a lot of loft in his swing. I still think his overall game compares well to that of Cameron, although as is the case with everyone about whom that is said, he isn't as good as Cammy. Still, I really like Maybin. He also, and take this for whatever it's worth, appears to love the game. It's easy to watch and root for him. (Geoff Young)
2011-02-08 14:00:00 (link to chat)Ken -- love PECOTA but I need a quick primer on how to use the player comparisons. If Joe Blow is compared to, say, Reggie Jackson that's good, right? But if the arrow next to Jackson's name is red and pointing down, that's bad, right? Would I rather have a red-arrow Jackson or a green-arrow Mike Cameron? A quick tutorial would be useful.
(PadresOnTop from San Diego)
I expect the data guys will be putting something like this out soon, but the short answer (as far as I understand it) is that having the green arrow is the more important thing for that year's projection. (Ken Funck)
2010-12-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)I am still not sure whether I should keep holding on to Cameron Maybin.What are the odds that he becomes Mike Cameron at best ?
(Spirou from Montreal)
Not seeing it. He still hasn't learned how to run routes in the outfield and Mike Cameron was a defensive beast. Maybin might grow into the offense of Cameron, but the defense ain't happening. (Eric Seidman)
2010-11-16 13:00:00 (link to chat)Loving the Padres trade for Maybin. He's strikes me as a Mike Cameron type player, I'll take one of those for 2 middle relievers anytime.
(formersd from San Diego)
Admit it--you're Marc Normandin. But yes, I agree. Amazing to see how far the stock of the two centerpieces of the Miguel Cabrera trade have fallen. But hey, there's always Burke Badenhop, right? (Ben Lindbergh)
2010-11-16 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hey now, that wasn't me with that Padre question. And Maybin could be Mike Cameron, but he could also be nothing. Which is less appealing. It is two back-end relievers though--and two the Padres can replace with players they already have on hand--so you do that deal every time.
(Marc Normandin from Dracut, MA)
Rumor has it the Padres are pretty good at finding cheap, effective relievers. But what does this mean for the future of Thin Gwynn? (Ben Lindbergh)
2010-08-24 14:30:00 (link to chat)Do you think that some of the Red Sox injuries were predictable...I mean, c'mon Mike Cameron isn't going to be healthy for a whole year.
(bchacker from ashram)
The only time Cameron failed to make over 600 plate appearances in the last four seasons was the result of a suspension. Injury prediction is an inexact science (though I gather that the Red Sox have made it as scientific as anyone else), but I don't see why Cameron should have been expected to fall apart immediately. (Ben Lindbergh)
2010-08-26 13:00:00 (link to chat)After an abysmal first half, Josh Reddick has been on fire since the break -- 368/396/647 -- is it time for Boston to give him another look?
(Nick from Allston, MA)
He'll get a call in September, and given Mike Cameron and Jacoby Ellsbury are both out of commission, he'll get some at-bats. Ryan Kalish passed him on the depth charts and prospect lists this year, but as Boston reminded us this year, there's no such thing as too much depth, and they are as curious as we are as to what they have in Reddick. (Marc Normandin)
2010-07-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)Combined career all-star appearances for Brandon Wood, Andy Marte, and Cameron Maybin, 0.5, Over or Under?
(Karen from NY)
Now there's a depressing thought. I never thought Brandon Wood's approach would translate to the majors--I've been harping on this for five years or so, seriously--but I also didn't think he'd tank *this* hard. Cameron Maybin's ceiling seems to have quickly fallen from "Eric Davis, maybe?" to "Mike Cameron, maybe?" to "Let's just keep our current outfield out there for now". Such an odd situation. (Marc Normandin)
2010-05-05 13:00:00 (link to chat)Marc, I need some serious help. I thought I drafted really well with a bunch of 4 and 5 star guys, but here I sit in 12th place. I have Kinsler back and Wright and Teixeira seem to be turning things around, but Justin Upton, Brett Anderson, Bucholtz and Kershaw have been disappointments and Ianetta, Jurrjens, Javi Vazquez and Scherzer have been awful. There trade value is non-existent to low. Time to cut bait on any of them?
(DanDaMan from 12th Place)
DanDaMan, it's been just over a month. Here's my take on fantasy: you get frustrated before you get worried. I try to be very patient, because if you get rid of a player that you had that much faith in just weeks ago based on a small sample, then you're going to regret it later far more often than not.

I'm currently in a super-deep AL-only league where you need five outfielders--three of mine were Jack Cust, Mike Cameron and Rick Ankiel. I'm panicking a little more in that league just because there are literally no replacements (the best available OF on waivers has 8 at-bats), but in all of my others that have bad things going on (injuries, early struggles, etc.) I'm just waiting it out. Don't panic. (Marc Normandin)
2010-02-05 13:00:00 (link to chat)Is this the year for Cameron Maybin's breakout?
(Scott from NJ)
I say he turns it on by June, but what's his ceiling these days? Are we still looking at Eric Davis, or is he Mike Cameron? (Marc Normandin)
2010-01-21 13:00:00 (link to chat)Thanks for the chat. Do you think Cameron Maybin will finally realize his potential this year? if so, what is that potential? 10hr/50rbi/15sb reasonable to expect?
(Fish Fan from Florida)
I think he's capable of being Mike Cameron once he puts things together, but I think I'm also lower on him than most. Maybe a poor man's Cameron is a good comp for the 2010 Cameron.

That sentence is confusing out of context. (Marc Normandin)
2009-12-15 14:00:00 (link to chat)Thanks for the chat, Christina. You are one of the reasons I just re-upped my subscription for another year. Are you of the opinion, like your colleague Mr. Sheehan, that the Red Sox signing of John Lackey is a precursor to a trade for some offensive centerpiece? If possible please include at least one reference to a historical event over 200 years old in your answer. Thanks!
(mattymatty2000 from Philly, PA)
Thanks for your support mattymatty, definitely appreciated. I have to think that there's every reason to believe they'll deal pitching for offense, in part because the pitchers out there now seem attached to various risks (Sheets, Bedard, Smoltz, Wang, Washburn) or because they're just not seen as tremendous front-end types (Marquis, Pineiro, Washburn, Wang). If you decide the bids on Jason Bay are too rich for your blood, and you want to go after a better bat at either infield corner and maybe left (if the Mike Cameron thing doesn't work out), my sense is that the only better bargaining chip to have beyond well-regarded starters would be a shortstop prospect. (Christina Kahrl)
2009-12-15 14:00:00 (link to chat)Why no talk of the Red Sox installing Mike Cameron in Fenway's spacious RF and moving JD Drew to LF? Cameron's arm too weak?
(TheGreenMiles from Arlington, VA)
I guess this is where I put on Kevin Goldstein's kangol for a moment and remind people that players aren't Strat cards. Cameron's a tremendous center fielder; you can bet he expects to play center. And you want to ask J.D. Drew, the Meissen man, to go play under the Monster? It's neat to ponder, but I just don't see anyone making this pitch, let alone this sale. (Christina Kahrl)
2009-12-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)Ok, the Cubs are going to dump Milton Bradley. But which of these three outfields would help the cubs win more games? Option 1 : Soriano, Mike Cameron, Fukudome Option 2: Soriano, Fukudome, Pat Burrell Option 3: Soriano, Fukudome, Bradley Am I wrong to think it's 3? I just think the cubs under Jim Hendry overreact to last year, and overreact to media criticism. And I'd like the Ricketts regime to start by flipping off the media/fanbase and keeping Bradley. It would be a healthy thing. Or am I just crazy?
(Mike from Chicago)
It's 1. Huge defensive difference, and Bradley can't hit, field and stay healthy all at once, so you end up with Bobby Scales in the outfield. Setting aside any and all non-baseball issues, Bradley is a lousy fit for an NL team. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-12-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)How much do you think Mike Cameron, Jim Thome, and Nick Johnson will sign for?
(David from Sonoma State University, CA)
Cameron for two and $22, Johnson for two and $18, Thome...I think will retire. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-12-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)Thoughts on the Granderson deal? Prefer three years of Granderson to two-years of Mike Cameron? What do you think the Yankees' next moves should be regarding LF/DH? Thanks!
(Eli from Brooklyn)
Yeah, that's a big age difference and actually less expensive over the next two seasons. Cameron carries some risk, as just about any loss in contact rate is going to eat his career. I suspect the Yankees, who have solved CF without moving the 2010 payroll at all, will still look for second-tier solutions that don't involved committing 2011 money.

Given the backscratch trade that just happened for Bruney, I wonder if the Yankees could get Adam Dunn; he'd be a good fit DHing mostly but also playing some left field, with Cabrera and Gardner both available to caddy, costs just $10M and is a free agent after '10. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-12-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)Is Granderson really that much of a better option than Mike Cameron for a year plus Austin Jackson's pre-arb years?
(wgobetz from jersey city, nj)
Austin Jackson isn't that good. Not enough glove to play CF, not enough bat to play a corner. Melky without the defense, if you prefer. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-12-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)Any chance the Yanks sign Cameron to help out against lefties. Neither Granderson nor Melky has a good platoon split from that side. Thanx.
(pweiss from MD)
I'm not sure that you sign Mike Cameron to be a platoon player, and I'm certain Cameron isn't going to sign into that situation. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-12-01 13:00:00 (link to chat)Would it make for the Yankees to let Hideki and Damon leave and try to pick up Cameron and Nick Johnson to replace them?
(adambulldog from Spring Green)
If I told you that I hated putting Mike Cameron on my list of top power free agents just because I knew a team like NY might think it's a good idea to sign him, would that answer your question? (Marc Normandin)
2009-11-17 14:00:00 (link to chat)For Donovan Tate, worst case scenerio: Mike Cameron, best case scenerio: Andruw Jones? Somewhere in between?
(andy from san diego)
Best case might be even better than that, but worst case is not even getting out of the minors. Basically the range is about 10 times what you have here. Crazy athlete, crazy raw. (Kevin Goldstein)
2009-11-17 14:00:00 (link to chat)Who has been the answer to more comps questions in the last 5 years - Mike Cameron or Tom Glavine?
(Mario66 from Toronto)
How about the most MISUSED comp -- Jamie Moyer. Every lefty with crap stuff and good numbers gets a Moyer comp (NOT by scouts). It's never accurate. (Kevin Goldstein)
2009-11-09 12:00:00 (link to chat)What's this year's market inefficiency? Last year it was an uneven economy that scared most teams off the big free agents and created a donut hole. Before that, defense, which was exploited by the Rays and Mariners.
(Michael from New Orleans)
It's still probably defense. Read Dave Cameron's piece on Mike Cameron vs. Jason Bay today. There are still lots of guys who are vastly underrated b/c most of their value comes from defense. (Shawn Hoffman)
2009-10-02 14:00:00 (link to chat)Is there any chance that Adam Jones ends up better than Mike Cameron, because that's who he looks like to me... decent, but not a star.
(Wendy from Madrid)
The performance is distributed differently, but I think if Adam Jones had Mike Cameron's career he'd be pretty happy. That's a hell of a career. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-06-08 14:00:00 (link to chat)Any thoughts on Chris B. Young's complete demise? Atkins I understand, but Young? What gives? Is his ceiling at this point Mike Cameron?
(tommybones from brooklyn)
I was clinging to the hope that the managerial change would help. He's been worse under Hinch. I truly don't know. We may have--no, I may have--just not seen something. Then again, he has an 1100 OPS since Friday, so maybe there's hope. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-05-07 14:00:00 (link to chat)Greg Halman leads AA with 10 HRs, but is striking out in about 40% of his PAs. His best comp is Pedro Cerrano, right? Will he ever learn to hit the offspeed stuff, or is it time to really reduce his ceiling because of those Ks?
(sjstraub from (NJ))
I'm starting to wonder how off a Mike Cameron comp might be. (Kevin Goldstein)
2009-04-13 14:00:00 (link to chat)Brett Gardner's bat has cooled off considerably since spring training, but more alarming are the balls he's not getting to in the outfield. Great speed, but some bad routes. How long before the Mike Cameron rumors start again?
(Rich from NJ)
In addition to losing perspective based on a few regular season games, I think you're making a big mistake to take his spring, particularly his early spring, at face value. He's a stopgap, and I'm on the more skeptical end of the spectrum when it comes to his ability to hold the job down.

While the rumor mill may start up, I don't think Cameron's headed the Yankees' way anytime soon. Maybe at the deadline if the Brewers are out of it, or if the Yankees dangle a nice pitcher. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-11-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)Why is everyone ready to give up on Weeks at 2B when he finally showed improvement? Every defensive metric I can find shows him as roughly average last year. I watched the majority of the Brewer games and in the first half I would have said he was at least average defensively, he did slip a bit in the second half though. If Weeks can't handle 2B then there are at least 7 or 8 other full time 2B that should be moved as well. Durham was MUCH worse out there than Weeks, if the ball wasn't hit right to Durham he didn't get to it.
(EnderCN from Milwaukee)
Because his offense isn't developing, and there's a notion--one I can get behind--that he's stagnating as a player in part because of his inability to master second base. He seems to have the tools to play center field, the Brewers could use a CF*, and maybe the move would get his bat started again. The parallels to B.J. Upton are pretty clear.

*The Brewers exercised Mike Cameron's option. I still think you could run Weeks out to center and look for a trade with Cameron or Hart. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-11-03 13:30:00 (link to chat)Do you agree with the Brewers decision to pick up Mike Cameron's $10 million option for this season? He was exactly what they expected but he is slowing down in the OF and is going to be 36. Putting up that kind of money on a team that needs SP badly with a relatively smaller budget just doesn't seem very sound.
(Matt from UW)
Yeah, I have to agree, Matt, this wasn't really the best investment given the team's more significant needs in other areas. If this team doesn't address its holes in the rotation, they're also-rans, and I'd rather they found a third baseman than keep winging it. (Christina Kahrl)
2008-11-03 13:30:00 (link to chat)Luis Castillo for Mike Cameron ... allows Weeks to move to CF, gives the Mets another couple of years to find a corner OF ... (of course, we have to figure out if Daniel Murphy can hack it at 2B this Winter)
(dianagramr from NYC)
Good point, Diane, except that Cameron's not really an asset in a corner. I was sort of counting on Murphy/Tatis to man one corner, and then no rely too heavily on Ryan Church. Obviously, position-relative value-wise, Murphy might make a lovely hitter for a second baseman, but for every Jeff Kent who actually transcended low expectations for his defense, you've got a legion of guys whose glove work doesn't hack it. Castillo might be the lesser evil the Mets just have to endure because, like Schneider, he was more valuable to Omar Minaya than he is to several billion other people. (Christina Kahrl)
2008-09-16 13:00:00 (link to chat)Maybe I'm mistaken on contract situation, but would the Yankees bite on Mike Cameron for next year?
(jlebeck66 from WI)
The Brewskies have an option on Cameron. I wouldn't put any free agent beyond the Yankees as they go through the inevitable counter-reaction to this year's "youth movement." (Steven Goldman)
2008-06-20 13:30:00 (link to chat)Do you think Chris B Young will eventually hit for a respectable average (.270)? He seems to have major contact issues right now, but on a positive note, his walk rate has increased.
(Tim from Glendale)
Lots of Chris Young questions. This is why the Mike Cameron comps were so prevalent. Some guys can strike out this much and be Eric Davis, but more just can't get the BA up high enough to be that valuable. His strikeout rate will improve, and he will hit for a higher average; it just may be that he never bats .300, so he won't be a superstar. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-05-09 14:00:00 (link to chat)The Padres offense was fourth best last season in the NL on the road. What happened? It can't just be Mike Cameron. How soon before SD blows it all up and starts over.
(dcoonce from bloomington indiana)
Well, it wasn't just Cameron, there just isn't a lot of star potential there. Remember, they're still committed to Giles, who has a limited upside at this point. Bard's not got a lot of sock. They let Bradley go away (understandably, perhaps) and learned the obvious, that Hairston doesn't cut it. Kouzmanoff's obviously very streaky, and that comes with bad as well as good. Khalil Greene doesn't get on base. Iguchi is a declining commodity. It's not *that* surprising. (Christina Kahrl)
2008-04-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)Cameron Maybin's K problems seem to be getting worse, not better. How concerning is this?
(Juan Duran from (Billings, MT))
It's concerning where you start to wonder if he's really just Mike Cameron in the end. I'm not convinced of that . . . yet. (Kevin Goldstein)
2008-04-15 13:00:00 (link to chat)Can you comment yet on Mike Cameron's therapeutic waiver application? I'll take failure to post this question as a no.
(Evan from Vancouver, BC)
I cannot.

I can however, give you Bryan Smith's take on college pitch counts: No, not significantly. Starting pitchers are not pitching more, college baseball is still a once-a-week activity for starting pitchers. What I think we'll see done, though, is the average IP for a freshman go way up if we ran the numbers -- coaches are just seeing far more demand to use an entire pitching staff. So what that will mean is in 2010, you'll have a host of pitchers with more innings on their arms than they might have had before the uniform start date. Rice's Wayne Graham is still going to throw his weekend starters 120 pitches per game, but the start date is not doing any more damage on those pitchers than it did a year ago.

Attrition for the back-end arms is the biggest consequence, to put it more succinctly. (Will Carroll)
2008-01-15 14:30:00 (link to chat)Opinions on the Pads outfield? Personally, I don't see how they can expect to get more than 120 games out of either Edmonds or Giles. Who do they have to fill the holes when they get injured? Headley? DaVanon? Doesn't it make sense for the Pads to sign someone like Brad Wilkerson to add some much needed depth?
(Travis from San Diego)
Hey there Travis. You don't think Giles will survive more than 120? Maybe my Giles-centric perception colors my thoughts.

Edmonds though, is an issue for playing time. I would love to see them go after Wilkerson on a cheap deal (that's all that exists this late in the game, right?) I do like seeing what Scott Hairston can do, but backup plans for backup plans can't hurt.

I will miss Mike Cameron out there, that's for sure. As long as I never see Brady Clark in center again, though it isn't his fault he was the closest thing to a centerfielder left on the roster. (Marc Normandin)
2008-01-15 14:30:00 (link to chat)How much do you see the acquisition of Mike Cameron and Ryan Braun's subsequent move to LF helping the Brewers?
(Marc from San Antonio)
It's going to be pretty significant I think. Braun's defensive problems were large enough that Tulowitzki could have taken home the Jackie Robinson Award with little complaint. Braun was dead last in Revised Zone Rating at third base, and was the only one to fall into the .500s. He also made only 21 plays out of the zone, which seems odd for an athletic player.

Cameron is a boost defensively even if he only plays average ball, and Hall is a fine infielder. Braun won't do as much damage in the corner, so it really depends on how everyone's bat holds up. Even without that though, this is a great move for Milwaukee. (Marc Normandin)
2008-01-15 14:30:00 (link to chat)How do you go about choosing your players for the profiles?
(Matt from SF, CA)
I end up thinking about the players far in advance usually, at least in season. This winter was tough because I wanted to cover free agents, but in case everyone missed it, this class sucked. I sift through lists of players, or check out who has been especially hot or cold as of late or for the season. BABIP plays a big part, as does the batted-ball data. Guys with a story beat those without, no matter how good someone may be. I went with Corey Patterson over Mike Cameron this past week for just that reason, since Patterson was a former #1 prospect who never got much better than that. (Marc Normandin)
2008-01-15 14:30:00 (link to chat)With all the talk of Mike Cameron in this Chat, what do you think of his $7M contract. With a Garenteed 25 missed games, do you think he was over/under paid for his talent, or did they hit the nail on the head dispite the suspension?
(ZTurgeon from Land of Milk and Honey)
I think it was a steal for the Brewers because of the shuffling they get to do defensively, even though he'll miss 25 games. It stinks for the Brewers that they won't have him around in April, but they may find some other useful pieces on the roster filling in for him during that time frame. Even with the reduction, they're improving by a few wins. (Marc Normandin)
2008-01-17 14:00:00 (link to chat)How much does Mike Cameron help the Brewers overall defense considering it gets Braun away from 3rd and Hall out of CF? Marginally? Leaps and bounds?
(Mark from Milwaukee)
Well, I sort of dealt with this a TA ago, but I really think there's a potential synergistic effect to be gained here. I can see Hall being a fine fix to their third base defensive hole, and Braun's a good enough athlete to be an asset in the outfield. And then there's having Cameron in center instead of an obviously uncomfortable Hall. It doesn't fix that still-ugly problem on the right side of the infield, nor does it breathe new life in Jason Kendall's ability to deter the running game, but it's a step in the right direction. (Christina Kahrl)
2008-01-10 13:00:00 (link to chat)Who do you like in CF for the Braves to start the season? IF they decide to go with in house options how much are they putting thier playoff hopes in jeopardy?
(basicslop from Albuquerque)
There's no good out-of-house options left, although I suppose they're one team that could wait a month for Mike Cameron to return. Gregor Blanco is a pumped-up fourth outfielder who wouldn't totally kill them.
Josh Anderson is the wrong answer, I know that much. (Joe Sheehan)


BP Roundtables

DateRoundtable NameComment
2008-10-02 11:00:00Thursday Playoff GamesA few ChiSox-related notes on Mike Cameron:

18th-round pick by the White Sox in 1991.

Traded to the Reds in 1998 for Paul Konerko

Traded to Seattle in 2000 as part of Ken Griffey Jr. deal (David Laurila)
2008-10-02 11:00:00Thursday Playoff GamesMike Cameron lets another ball go off his glove. He really seems to have lost a step in center field. He's 35 now, so that's understandable. (Caleb Peiffer)
 

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