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Greg Maddux PBraves

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Career Summary
Years IP W L SV SO ERA WARP
23 5008.3 355 227 0 3371 3.16 76.3
Birth Date4-14-1966
Height6' 0"
Weight170 lbs
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WARP Summary

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YEAR TEAM AGE G GS IP IP-SP IP-RP W L SV BS QS BQS PA H R ER HR TB BB UBB HBP SO ERA FIP FRA VORP WARP
1986 CHN 20 6 5 31.0 30.0 1.0 2 4 0 0 3 0 144 44 20 19 3 63 11 9 1 20 5.52 3.87 4.41 4.9 0.5
1987 CHN 21 30 27 155.7 149.3 6.3 6 14 0 0 7 2 701 181 111 97 17 278 74 61 4 101 5.61 4.49 5.93 0.5 0.7
1988 CHN 22 34 34 249.0 249.0 0.0 18 8 0 0 24 0 1047 230 97 88 13 309 81 65 9 140 3.18 3.35 4.46 12.1 1.7
1989 CHN 23 35 35 238.3 238.3 0.0 19 12 0 0 21 1 1002 222 90 78 13 305 82 69 6 135 2.95 3.35 4.48 16.1 2.0
1990 CHN 24 35 35 237.0 237.0 0.0 15 15 0 0 22 3 1011 242 116 91 11 323 71 61 4 144 3.46 3.15 3.84 36.3 4.4
1991 CHN 25 37 37 263.0 263.0 0.0 15 11 0 0 23 6 1070 232 113 98 18 338 66 57 6 198 3.35 3.00 4.17 33.2 4.1
1992 CHN 26 35 35 268.0 268.0 0.0 20 11 0 0 30 1 1061 201 68 65 7 268 70 63 14 199 2.18 2.57 3.65 30.9 4.2
1993 ATL 27 36 36 267.0 267.0 0.0 20 10 0 0 29 3 1064 228 85 70 14 312 52 45 6 197 2.36 2.83 3.96 38.5 4.5
1994 ATL 28 25 25 202.0 202.0 0.0 16 6 0 0 24 1 774 150 44 35 4 188 31 28 6 156 1.56 2.33 3.16 52.4 5.7
1995 ATL 29 28 28 209.7 209.7 0.0 19 2 0 0 22 0 785 147 39 38 8 193 23 20 4 181 1.63 2.22 3.42 42.9 5.2
1996 ATL 30 35 35 245.0 245.0 0.0 15 11 0 0 24 2 978 225 85 74 11 315 28 17 3 172 2.72 2.65 4.04 37.9 5.1
1997 ATL 31 33 33 232.7 232.7 0.0 19 4 0 0 27 0 893 200 58 57 9 264 20 14 6 177 2.20 2.39 3.53 48.1 5.3
1998 ATL 32 34 34 251.0 251.0 0.0 18 9 0 0 27 3 987 201 75 62 13 274 45 35 7 204 2.22 2.74 4.00 44.0 5.2
1999 ATL 33 33 33 219.3 219.3 0.0 19 9 0 0 19 0 940 258 103 87 16 354 37 29 4 136 3.57 3.34 4.62 35.3 4.4
2000 ATL 34 35 35 249.3 249.3 0.0 19 9 0 0 25 3 1012 225 91 83 19 320 42 30 10 190 3.00 3.15 4.30 41.6 5.2
2001 ATL 35 34 34 233.0 233.0 0.0 17 11 0 0 24 1 927 220 86 79 20 322 27 17 7 173 3.05 3.08 4.01 37.9 4.5
2002 ATL 36 34 34 199.3 199.3 0.0 16 6 0 0 18 1 820 194 67 58 14 270 45 38 4 118 2.62 3.34 4.69 15.4 2.2
2003 ATL 37 36 36 218.3 218.3 0.0 16 11 0 0 21 0 901 225 112 96 24 353 33 26 8 124 3.96 3.83 4.67 24.4 3.4
2004 CHN 38 33 33 212.7 212.7 0.0 16 11 0 0 20 1 872 218 103 95 35 361 33 29 9 151 4.02 4.27 5.46 2.5 1.0
2005 CHN 39 35 35 225.0 225.0 0.0 13 15 0 0 18 2 936 239 112 106 29 380 36 32 7 136 4.24 4.03 4.96 15.7 2.1
2006 CHN 40 22 22 136.3 136.3 0.0 9 11 0 0 10 1 572 153 78 71 14 239 23 20 0 81 4.69 3.76 5.00 6.6 1.1
2006 LAN 40 12 12 73.7 73.7 0.0 6 3 0 0 7 0 290 66 31 27 6 103 14 10 0 36 3.30 3.76 4.81 7.2 0.9
2007 SDN 41 34 34 198.0 198.0 0.0 14 11 0 0 18 2 830 221 92 91 14 326 25 22 6 104 4.14 3.52 4.00 24.4 3.1
2008 LAN 42 7 7 40.7 40.7 0.0 2 4 0 0 2 0 166 43 25 23 5 65 4 3 1 18 5.09 4.19 5.69 -3.3 -0.2
2008 SDN 42 26 26 153.3 153.3 0.0 6 9 0 0 15 0 638 161 80 68 16 247 26 22 5 80 3.99 4.02 5.29 -7.7 0.0
Career7447405008.35001.07.3355227004803320421472619811756353677099982213733713.163.214.31597.676.3

Advanced

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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP FRA FRA+ TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP PPF PVORP PWARP VORP WARP
1984 PIK Rk 14 12 85.7 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1985 PEO A 27 27 186.0 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1986 CHN MLB 6 5 31.0 4.41 102 .288 .252 .317 .385 .253 .376 107 3.4 0.4 4.9 0.5
1986 PTS AA 8 8 63.7 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1986 IOW AAA 18 18 128.3 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1987 CHN MLB 30 27 155.7 5.93 77 .274 .259 .321 .396 .255 .325 106 1.1 0.1 0.5 0.7
1987 IOW AAA 4 4 27.7 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1988 CHN MLB 34 34 249.0 4.46 89 .235 .249 .309 .362 .255 .270 104 5.5 0.6 12.1 1.7
1989 CHN MLB 35 35 238.3 4.48 93 .247 .249 .312 .370 .257 .273 106 10.1 1.1 16.1 2.0
1990 CHN MLB 35 35 237.0 3.84 116 .243 .255 .318 .380 .259 .296 107 38.0 4.1 36.3 4.4
1991 CHN MLB 37 37 263.0 4.17 104 .228 .249 .311 .370 .253 .274 105 27.7 2.9 33.2 4.1
1992 CHN MLB 35 35 268.0 3.65 107 .208 .248 .309 .362 .252 .252 102 26.0 2.8 30.9 4.2
1993 ATL MLB 36 36 267.0 3.96 112 .213 .262 .321 .396 .255 .269 99 36.4 3.7 38.5 4.5
1994 ATL MLB 25 25 202.0 3.16 133 .181 .269 .332 .419 .258 .253 102 50.8 4.9 52.4 5.7
1995 ATL MLB 28 28 209.7 3.42 124 .170 .265 .330 .408 .257 .244 97 42.4 4.1 42.9 5.2
1996 ATL MLB 35 35 245.0 4.04 112 .209 .261 .325 .406 .252 .280 97 37.0 3.5 37.9 5.1
1997 ATL MLB 33 33 232.7 3.53 121 .194 .259 .325 .407 .255 .280 97 46.7 4.6 48.1 5.3
1998 ATL MLB 34 34 251.0 4.00 110 .206 .262 .325 .410 .255 .262 96 34.2 3.4 44.0 5.2
1999 ATL MLB 33 33 219.3 4.62 103 .251 .268 .336 .430 .257 .324 95 25.7 2.4 35.3 4.4
2000 ATL MLB 35 35 249.3 4.30 111 .213 .266 .334 .431 .257 .274 95 37.1 3.5 41.6 5.2
2001 ATL MLB 34 34 233.0 4.01 109 .224 .259 .325 .418 .259 .286 93 31.7 3.1 37.9 4.5
2002 ATL MLB 34 34 199.3 4.69 92 .233 .260 .325 .410 .257 .282 97 11.3 1.1 15.4 2.2
2003 ATL MLB 36 36 218.3 4.67 98 .249 .257 .323 .406 .254 .282 99 22.2 2.2 24.4 3.4
2004 CHN MLB 33 33 212.7 5.46 78 .249 .260 .325 .418 .258 .285 96 1.6 0.2 2.5 1.0
2005 CHN MLB 35 35 225.0 4.96 94 .250 .259 .323 .412 .257 .288 102 12.0 1.2 15.7 2.1
2006 CHN MLB 22 22 136.3 5.00 94 .252 .264 .329 .428 .262 .306 97 8.5 0.8 6.6 1.1
2006 LAN MLB 12 12 73.7 4.81 97 .218 .267 .329 .433 .264 .256 96 4.6 0.4 7.2 0.9
2007 SDN MLB 34 34 198.0 4.00 108 .258 .266 .328 .421 .254 .304 91 25.2 2.5 24.4 3.1
2008 LAN MLB 7 7 40.7 5.69 70 .256 .261 .317 .403 .258 .275 94 -1.7 -0.2 -3.3 -0.2
2008 SDN MLB 26 26 153.3 5.29 72 .254 .258 .323 .411 .257 .284 89 -6.5 -0.7 -7.7 0.0

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR GB% BABIP H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 WHIP ERA VORP WARP
1984 PIK Rk 6 2 0 14 12 85.7 63 41 62 2 0% .000 6.6 4.3 0.2 6.5 1.21 2.63 0.0 0.0
1985 PEO A 13 9 0 27 27 186.0 176 52 125 9 0% .000 8.5 2.5 0.4 6.0 1.23 3.19 0.0 0.0
1986 PTS AA 4 3 0 8 8 63.7 49 15 35 1 0% .000 6.9 2.1 0.1 4.9 1.00 2.68 0.0 0.0
1986 CHN MLB 2 4 0 6 5 31.0 44 11 20 3 62% .376 12.8 3.2 0.9 5.8 1.77 5.52 4.9 0.5
1986 IOW AAA 10 1 0 18 18 128.3 127 30 65 3 0% .000 8.9 2.1 0.2 4.6 1.22 3.02 0.0 0.0
1987 IOW AAA 3 0 0 4 4 27.7 17 12 22 1 0% .000 5.5 3.9 0.3 7.1 1.05 0.97 0.0 0.0
1987 CHN MLB 6 14 0 30 27 155.7 181 74 101 17 63% .325 10.5 4.3 1.0 5.8 1.64 5.61 0.5 0.7
1988 CHN MLB 18 8 0 34 34 249.0 230 81 140 13 57% .270 8.3 2.9 0.5 5.1 1.25 3.18 12.1 1.7
1989 CHN MLB 19 12 0 35 35 238.3 222 82 135 13 59% .273 8.4 3.1 0.5 5.1 1.28 2.95 16.1 2.0
1990 CHN MLB 15 15 0 35 35 237.0 242 71 144 11 58% .296 9.2 2.7 0.4 5.5 1.32 3.46 36.3 4.4
1991 CHN MLB 15 11 0 37 37 263.0 232 66 198 18 56% .274 7.9 2.3 0.6 6.8 1.13 3.35 33.2 4.1
1992 CHN MLB 20 11 0 35 35 268.0 201 70 199 7 61% .252 6.8 2.4 0.2 6.7 1.01 2.18 30.9 4.2
1993 ATL MLB 20 10 0 36 36 267.0 228 52 197 14 60% .269 7.7 1.8 0.5 6.6 1.05 2.36 38.5 4.5
1994 ATL MLB 16 6 0 25 25 202.0 150 31 156 4 61% .253 6.7 1.4 0.2 7.0 0.90 1.56 52.4 5.7
1995 ATL MLB 19 2 0 28 28 209.7 147 23 181 8 65% .244 6.3 1.0 0.3 7.8 0.81 1.63 42.9 5.2
1996 ATL MLB 15 11 0 35 35 245.0 225 28 172 11 63% .280 8.3 1.0 0.4 6.3 1.03 2.72 37.9 5.1
1997 ATL MLB 19 4 0 33 33 232.7 200 20 177 9 58% .280 7.7 0.8 0.3 6.8 0.95 2.20 48.1 5.3
1998 ATL MLB 18 9 0 34 34 251.0 201 45 204 13 63% .262 7.2 1.6 0.5 7.3 0.98 2.22 44.0 5.2
1999 ATL MLB 19 9 0 33 33 219.3 258 37 136 16 55% .324 10.6 1.5 0.7 5.6 1.34 3.57 35.3 4.4
2000 ATL MLB 19 9 0 35 35 249.3 225 42 190 19 68% .274 8.1 1.5 0.7 6.9 1.07 3.00 41.6 5.2
2001 ATL MLB 17 11 0 34 34 233.0 220 27 173 20 61% .286 8.5 1.0 0.8 6.7 1.06 3.05 37.9 4.5
2002 ATL MLB 16 6 0 34 34 199.3 194 45 118 14 67% .282 8.8 2.0 0.6 5.3 1.20 2.62 15.4 2.2
2003 ATL MLB 16 11 0 36 36 218.3 225 33 124 24 54% .282 9.3 1.4 1.0 5.1 1.18 3.96 24.4 3.4
2004 CHN MLB 16 11 0 33 33 212.7 218 33 151 35 54% .285 9.2 1.4 1.5 6.4 1.18 4.02 2.5 1.0
2005 CHN MLB 13 15 0 35 35 225.0 239 36 136 29 55% .288 9.6 1.4 1.2 5.4 1.22 4.24 15.7 2.1
2006 CHN MLB 9 11 0 22 22 136.3 153 23 81 14 52% .306 10.1 1.5 0.9 5.3 1.29 4.69 6.6 1.1
2006 LAN MLB 6 3 0 12 12 73.7 66 14 36 6 55% .256 8.1 1.7 0.7 4.4 1.09 3.30 7.2 0.9
2007 SDN MLB 14 11 0 34 34 198.0 221 25 104 14 54% .304 10.0 1.1 0.6 4.7 1.24 4.14 24.4 3.1
2008 SDN MLB 6 9 0 26 26 153.3 161 26 80 16 51% .284 9.4 1.5 0.9 4.7 1.22 3.99 -7.7 0.0
2008 LAN MLB 2 4 0 7 7 40.7 43 4 18 5 51% .275 9.5 0.9 1.1 4.0 1.16 5.09 -3.3 -0.2

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT
2008 2504 0.5647 0.4924 0.8754 0.6485 0.2853 0.9171 0.7524 0.1205
Career25040.56470.49240.87540.64850.28530.91710.75240.1205

Injury History

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2002-03-26 2002-04-12 15-DL 17 10 Low Back Nerve Injury Nerves -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2008 SDN $10,000,000
2007 SDN $10,000,000
2006 LAN $9,000,000
2006 CHN $9,000,000
2005 CHN $9,000,000
2004 CHN $6,000,000
2003 ATL $14,750,000
2002 ATL $13,100,000
2001 ATL $12,500,000
2000 ATL $11,100,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
9 yrPrevious$104,450,000
9 yrTotal$104,450,000

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
22 y 21 dScott Boras

Details
  • 1 year/$10M (2008). Re-signed by San Diego 11/19/07. No-trade protection. Award bonuses: $0.1M for Cy Young ($50,000 for 2nd, $25,000 for 3rd). $0.1M for MVP ($50,000 for 2nd, $25,000 for 3rd). $0.1M for WS MVP. $50,000 each for All Star selection, Gold Glove or LCS MVP. $25,000 for Silver Slugger. Perks: suite on road, membership at Del Mar Country Club. Acquired by LA Dodgers in trade from San Diego 8/19/08.
  • 1 year/$10M (2007), plus 2008 options. Signed by San Diego as a free agent 12/06. 07:$10M, 08:$6M player option or $11M club option. 2008 player option may increase to: $7.5M with 170 IP in 2007, $8.75M with 185 IP in 2007, or $10M with 200 IP in 2007. No-trade protection. Award bonuses: $0.1M for Cy Young ($50,000 for 2nd, $25,000 for 3rd). $0.1M for MVP ($50,000 for 2nd, $25,000 for 3rd). $0.1M for WS MVP. $50,000 each for All Star selection, Gold Glove or LCS MVP. $25,000 for Silver Slugger. Perks: suite on road, membership at Del Mar Country Club.
  • 3 years/$24M (2004-06). Signed by Chicago Cubs as a free agent 3/04. 04:$6M, 05:$9M, 06:$9M. Club may void 2006 if Maddux does not post 400 IP in 2004-05. Acquired by LA Dodgers in trade from Chicago Cubs 7/06 (Cubs paying Dodgers $2M as part of deal).
  • 1 year/$14.75M (2003). Re-signed by Atlanta 2/03 (avoided arbitration, $16M-$13.5M).
  • 5 years/$57.5M (1998-2002). Signed extension with Atlanta 8/97. $3M signing bonus. 98:$9M, 99:$10M, 00:$10.5M, 01:$12.5M, 02:$12.5M.
  • 5 years/$28M (1993-97) Signed by Atlanta as a free agent 12/92. $2.5M signing bonus. 93:$5M, 94:$3.5M, 95:$5M, 96:$6M, 97:$6M. Average salary of $5.6M/year was a record at time of signing.
  • 1 year/$4.2M (1992). Re-signed by Chicago Cubs 1/92 (avoided arbitration, $4.4M-$3.65M).
  • 1 year/$2.4M (1991). Signed extension with Chicago Cubs 3/90. $25,000 in bonuses.
  • 2 years/$0.7125M (1989-90). Signed extension with Chicago Cubs 1/89 (avoided arbitration). 89:$0.275M, 90:$0.4375M.
  • 1 year/$82,500 (1988). Signed by Chicago Cubs 2/88.
  • Drafted by Chicago Cubs 1984 (2-31) (Valley HS, Las Vegas).

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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2013-04-04 11:00:00 (link to chat)When teams designate legends as special assistants (take the Rangers with Greg Maddux, Tony Fernandez, and Pudge Rodriguez) do you think it's more on the basis of projecting their ability to instruct, or for their value in giving prospects someone to look up to and strive to emulate?
(Or from Denton)
I think it can have several benefits. Obviously, giving a young prospect the opportunity to stand on the same field and receive instruction from a giant at that position carries a lot of weight. I've seen Alfaro around Pudge; Sardinas around Fernandez; Martin Perez around Greg Maddux. It means something to the kids. The other major positive is that these guys are also good teachers. That's not true of every former player or every special assistant, but the ones I just mentioned know how to listen and they know how to express themselves without getting overly didactic or alienating non-hall of fame level talent. I cant stress how great this is for the players. They might be on the field, but at heart they are just fans of the game as well, and when Greg Maddux gives you pointers about a grip or a few thoughts about a release, you listen and you love every minute of it. (Jason Parks)
2013-03-15 13:00:00 (link to chat)Who is the best current pitching coach and why?
(Rice Cube from Chicago)
Greg Maddux, Team USA. Because he's Greg Maddux. (Harry Pavlidis)
2013-03-15 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hi, thanks for the chat. Who have you seen that may not have the best "stuff" but finds success because of really good at sequencing?
(The Shoe from Marvin Gardens)
Ted Lilly pops to mind. You can even point to late career Greg Maddux. I suspect it's a common trait with veteran guys, and a good research idea. We'll touch on this point a couple more times based on the questions in the queue. (Harry Pavlidis)
2013-02-19 13:00:00 (link to chat)What do you see out of Medlen in 2013? He seems to be one of the most polarizing players this draft season after his Greg Maddux impersonation in the summer of 2012
(Doug from Brooklyn)
I like Medlen. Not to keep up the Maddux act, but to be a solid mid-rotation guy. I was actually surprised by how optimistic PECOTA was: projected to be the 22nd-best pitcher, by WARP. (Ben Lindbergh)
2012-10-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)Professor Parks, With the season-long hubub of Stephen Strasburg's successful return from injury, I recall the sad case of Mark Prior and his derailed career. The popular party line when Prior was actually a good pitcher was that "all the scouts say he has perfect mechanics". Now that he's been released from his 5th (?) organization, there are plenty of people who look back and readily point out some pretty substantial problems with Prior's mechanics. Problems that, you would think, are now so obvious that it's curious that anyone at the time would have claimed Prior was so mechanically sound when he was not. So this begs a couple of questions. Did we all just hear what we wanted to hear and nobody who really mattered in baseball was actually saying that Prior's mechanics were sound? Or did scouts and industry professionals really just miss the mark so badly? Or is the truth somewhere in the middle, and the consensus in the industry is that Prior was in the same boat as many other pitchers in having a few flaws, but they didn't want to change him (because that's easier said than done) and he was just unlucky in being hit hard by the same injury bug that gets many other pitchers? And lastly, are there any lessons in the Prior story that can be applied to Strasburg? Maybe the lesson with him is that few people not named Greg Maddux have perfect mechanics, lots of pitchers get hurt, and we need to stop freaking out about them before or after the fact?
(Erik from Longwood, FL)
Every pitcher is different. You can look at bad mechanics and raise the red flag, and then watch that pitcher throw 200 innings a year without an issue. Arm injuries happen, and pitchers break for a variety of reasons, and more often than not, our injury projections aren't on the same level as our tool projections. It has to be player specific. Some pitchers just make it work, while others can look clean and effortless and then the arm explodes and lands in the fourth row on the lap of a crying child. What caused it? Was it bad mechanics after all? Was it the result of overwork? I'm not fond of the mechanical revisionists who cry foul after the fact. It's easy to be right when you don't have to worry about being wrong. (Jason Parks)
2012-02-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)Any chance Derek Jeter or Greg Maddux gets 100% of the HOF vote on his first try?
(Bobby from New York)
No, because there still exists a small handful of clowns who insist upon sending back blank ballots in general protest of the steroid era. This is akin to a grown-ass man throwing himself down in the middle of the supermarket aisle to protest mommy not buying him sugar cereal when he was a kid. (Jay Jaffe)
2012-01-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hey Jay - Do you feel that the Hall of Fame will start to give guidelines to the voters sooner rather than later when it comes to steroids? I have seen comments regarding how quickly Bagwell shrunk in size as to why someone was not going to vote for him (Chicago Tribune). As Phil Rogers says, 580+ writers, 580+ opinions on the matter. Thanks
(Brian from Tinley Park)
Good question. I think we're years away from that, because while there are several candidates about to hit the ballot whose careers have been linked to PED use, there are also a bunch of milestone candidates whose elections are a virtual lock. Even without Barry Bonds and Roger Clmeens, you'll still have Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, Randy Johnson and Craig Biggio on that score, as well as solid candidates without the milestones OR PED connections such as John Smoltz and Curt Schilling. I think we're years away before the Hall feels a need to interject itself into the debate on the guideline grounds. (Jay Jaffe's Hall of Fame Special)
2012-01-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)Most likely to break 1st year ballot vote percentage record: Jeter or Mariano?
(tommybones from brooklyn)
Tough call. I'd bet both are high 90s but that Greg Maddux tops either; Jeter's defense and Mariano's relief role will keep a few voters away. (Jay Jaffe's Hall of Fame Special)
2011-05-12 13:00:00 (link to chat)How DOES Shawn Marcum work? Its bizarre that someone who doesn't break 90 on a radar gun gets those Ks. Is it sustainable?
(WisconsinRob from Madison)
I sure hope so. Theoretically, at least, a sub-90 mph pitcher can sustainably strike players out with smart sequencing, good pitches, and good accuracy. Trevor Hoffman, Jamie Moyer, Greg Maddux, etc... Whether Marcum continues to do that is tough to say. He's done a remarkable job of keeping it up since last year, though. I wouldn't be surprised if he continues to do so. (Larry Granillo)
2011-04-18 13:00:00 (link to chat)Can you compare Greg Maddux to Jamie Moyer?
(Jeff from Eh...)
Bo Jackson has better tools. (Kevin Goldstein)
2010-12-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)There was interesting article I believe in FanGraphs on the decline of Greinke. That it's not just an off year. Thoughts? I watch him and his stuff, arsenal of pitches, and approach to pitching, I'm blown away. I see a guy i'd want more than Felix. Am I hallucinating?
(SK from DC)
Greinke's command was a little off this year on all of his pitches. He still had his control, he just didn't fool hitters as much with it, hence fewer strikeouts. Without the extra-special command, he's still great, he's just not Greg Maddux. There is no shame in being Greg Maddux Lite. (Marc Normandin)
2010-03-24 11:00:00 (link to chat)So if the qualities of Colby Lewis' pitches are nothing special, what's made him able to dominate hitters in Japan? Presumably that's a skill hitters aren't used to seeing over there, but isn't special in MLB. Identifying those specific factors could be valuable to both MLB teams and Japanese teams. Heck, maybe Matsuzaka's struggled with the same thing -- he can throw many decent pitches but without any one that's great.
(Sky from The Roc, NY)
One way to look at it is by analogy to pinpoint control guys who struggle when they hit the majors. Lewis had a (filthy) 369/49 K/BB ratio in two season in Japan. He walked 19 guys last year. That just isn't realistic in the major leagues, because if you left that many low-90s fastballs in the zone, American League hitters would eat your lunch. *Unless you're Greg Maddux, and he isn't. (Tommy Bennett)
2009-12-29 15:00:00 (link to chat)When eligible Greg Maddux will receive ___% of the vote for the Hall of Fame.
(paulbellows from Calgary)
99.3%. There's always someone.

Here's my problem: if you're a "no first ballot" guy, you've never gotten to vote for some of the greatest players in history. There's a guy out there who never voted for Rickey, Cal, et al, and to me, that's just sad. It would be an honor to vote for a player like that. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-10-13 14:00:00 (link to chat)Your thoughts on Jair Jurrjens' future please.
(Frug from UIUC)
There were some who thought his 2008 season would be his best; obviously, he chose to disagree. He suffers from some of the biases against "short" right-handers, and he isn't throwing any harder. Still, he outperformed Lowe (and Kawakami). It seems crazy that even before this season, two of his top comps were Greg Maddux and Dave Stieb, two of the best "short" right-handers of the past generation. It also suggests how extraordinary Jurrjens already is, which is where all the doubt comes from. Could he really be that good? I don't think we can say yes or no with anything like the same sort of authority as we can with more typical players. I'd take my chances with him, certainly. (Christina Kahrl)
2009-10-08 14:00:00 (link to chat)So how good is Porcello, now that he's shown he can strike guys out when needed?
(Wendy from Madrid)
Do I need to write an article comparing him to Greg Maddux every six weeks? I love the guy. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-10-05 16:00:00 (link to chat)In what year do you think HOF voting will be "correct" in terms of who gets in (i.e. 98 of 100 or so of the inductees are actually deserving)? Will it have to wait for the fan base to be better versed in statistics?
(Tony from Brooklyn, NY)
The first thing that needs to happen is for people who won't vote based on dumb principles like players not ratting on others who took steroids to not have their votes anymore. Or for people who forget to vote for deserving players or neglect to include them because "they'll get in anyway" to lose their voting rights. If Greg Maddux is not a 100% unanimous choice... if Pedro Martinez is not 100%... if Randy Johnson is not 100%... etc. (Eric Seidman)
2009-09-02 13:00:00 (link to chat)Eric, what team do you root for and who was your favorite player as a kid?
(Tex Premium Lager from NJ)
Phillies. Greg Maddux is and always will be my favorite baseball player. (Eric Seidman)
2009-06-15 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hey Will. Do you have any idea what Jose Contreras did during his demotion to AAA Charlotte to transform himself into 1995 Greg Maddux?
(Phil S. from NJ)
No, and things like this are a great mystery. Teams credit their minor league coaches about as often as Apple credits an engineer. (Will Carroll)
2009-06-08 14:00:00 (link to chat)He went on strike, but isn't Greg Maddux the next test case?
(Jon from DC)
No, because he went on strike. I don't remember which guy(s), but at least one voter is on record as saying he'll never vote for a player who went on strike. Jeter doesn't have that. He doesn't have PEDs. He is fully qualified even noting the defense. He's visible and popular and nice. If he's not unanimous, the guy who leaves him off is showboating, plain and simple. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-06-08 14:00:00 (link to chat)Mussina won 20 last year. I think that gets him over the hump. I think people tend to lump him in with the Greg Maddux's of the world. Maybe not a first balloter, but I think he's a certainty.
(shamah from NYC)
I'm aware of that. He's still the "almost" guy.

I like Mike Mussina as much as anyone, and I'll tell you right now that no one on this planet lumps him in with "the Greg Maddux's of the world." Nor should they. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-06-05 15:30:00 (link to chat)Eric, on your IMDB page it says you haven't missed a 76ers game in years. Might we see you write for Basketball Prospectus?
(Jay from SD)
One of my goals for 2009 was to get more in tune with advanced basketball analysis. It hasn't happened yet for lack of time but I think it would be fun to compare my scouting eyes from watching so much over the years to what the numbers say. With baseball, I tend to only watch the Phillies, Greg Maddux, Matt Cain, and the 5 innings of Javier Vazquez before he implodes. With the NBA, I could watch a Grizzlies-Wizards game and be entertained. (Eric Seidman)
2009-06-05 15:30:00 (link to chat)Thanks for answering my question. What's your take on the not-so-great reputation of Phillies fans? Do you think it's deserved/accurate or overblown? You don't hear the same thing about other East Coast teams in the area (Orioles, Mets, Yankees, Pirates), so I'm curious if this a matter of perception vs. reality.
(David S from Oakland)
It's odd... in many cases it is overblown. For instance, Phillies fans went crazy for Ken Griffey, Jr last year when he came to town with 599 HR, giving him these loud standing ovations every time he came up and every time he went back to the dugout. They also gave Greg Maddux a loud ovation when he left a game, because even though he was a rival for about 13 years, they understood how special of a player they got to see. They even cheered Pat Burrell on when he was struggling in 2003, hoping it might get him out of it. But then again there are certainly knuckleheads, like in any city, who seem to remember one thing about a player and assign that characteristic no matter what. (Eric Seidman)
2009-01-22 13:00:00 (link to chat)Jeff Kent - Hall of famer?
(leitch71 from Baltimore)
I'm considering taking up this question -- and that of other recent retirees like Greg Maddux and Mike Mussina -- for my next piece, so I'll withhold comment until then.

Apologies for the technical difficulties thus far. The epically slow load times I'm experiencing on this end have me needing to reset the chat. Back momentarily... (Jay Jaffe)
2008-10-15 13:00:00 (link to chat)While I admire the Rays' long term plan and also recognize that this idea may be impossible financially, similar to how the Braves signed Greg Maddux prior to the 1993 season, I am intrigued by the idea of the Rays signing CC Sabbathia this offseason. What do you think?
(Brent from Raleigh)
It's an interesting thought, and who's to say it couldn't happen, but I think they are probably pretty set in the rotation and focused on continuing to build from within rather than making that huge signing. If you figure that Price slots into the rotation next year, that's Shields, Kazmir, Garza, Price, and Sonnanstine, with Jeff Niemann and Edwin Jackson as insurance. Of course, injuries could upset that, and you can never have too much starting pitching, but I think the Rays will probably focus on offense. Remember, they were second in the AL in run prevention this year, but only ninth in runs scored. I would think they might look at getting another outfield bat for right field/DH, and as more insurance in case Baldelli is unable to play a full season again. (Caleb Peiffer)
2008-10-06 14:00:00 (link to chat)Okay, to take Pete from Boston's question to the next level... will we ever have a unanimous first ballot hall of famer? I know there are some who refuse to vote for anyone from the steroid era... but that era has passed. So perhaps Evan Longoria? Madison Baumgarner?
(Nick from Chicago)
There are actually some who refuse to vote for any player who went on strike, so you need someone who's career started in 1995 or later. I don't think anyone has said they wouldn't vote for anyone from the steroid era, and in fact, I've heard more the opposite--we can't know who did what, so it's unfair to punish only a few.

Jeter is the obvious choice. Greg Maddux before him, I guess, will be a test. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-08-01 14:00:00 (link to chat)Jay, what do you see happening over the waiver wires in the next month? And can I still dump Jack Wilson for more prospects, or do I need to wait until the winter?
(NealH from Pittsburgh, PA)
I have it on good authority that Jeff Conine will come out of retirement for the express purpose of being included in a waiver deal.

Beyond that I think we can expect to see action on some of the aforementioned Mariners, maybe some junk from the Orioles (Millar, Payton, Mora, Huff) or the Giants (Aurilia, Winn). Paul Byrd, Greg Maddux, maybe either Pierre or Andruw if the Dodgers are willing to eat a whole lot of salary.
Jack Wilson can probably be dumped for prospects if you're willing to eat salary, but given what he's locked in for ($6.5M this year, $7.25M in 2009, $8.4M/0.6M club option in 2010) I don't think he's all that appealing or will draw much in the way of prospects. Thank your predecessor once again. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-07-29 16:00:00 (link to chat)Padres trade: Adrian Gonzalez, Greg Maddux, Heath Bell Yankees send: Austin Jackson, Phil Hughes, Ian Kennedy, Melky Cabrera, Cano and a throw-in of Kei Igawa
(dcoonce from bloomington, indiana)
You've been at Nick's early, haven't you? (Will Carroll)
2008-07-25 14:00:00 (link to chat)Loved your recent articles on santana. The other day my friend said he was having a bad year, when I asked how he came to that conclusion his response was "his era is in the threes." (its 3.05). Let me just say I now completely understand why some people may consider you a bit hawkish, my response used worse language than I have ever heard you use. Has there ever been another multiple cy young award winner that somehow managed to become underrated?
(kevin from boston)
Greg Maddux. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-05-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)Halladay has always been known for having some pretty good stuff as well as great control. He's kind of reminded me of Greg Maddux with a fastball. So his drop in strikeouts the past couple of years concerned me. Why have his strikeouts increased this year? What is he doing differently?
(Wendy from Madrid)
I'm not sure--probably just a random fluctuation. Unless you can divine something from his pitch data: http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1303&position=P (Caleb Peiffer)
2008-03-11 12:00:00 (link to chat)What do you expect out of Chien-Min-Wang this year and for the future, it seems like we may have already seen his best pitching.
(SnakeDoctor18 from Washington DC)
There's an upper bound on how good a pitcher with his contact rate can be, so I'd agree with the idea. It's always possible that he'll end up in front of some terrific defense, in which case he could post an ERA in the 2.50 range. He never gives up homers and doesn't walk people; take away the hits, and you have Greg Maddux just outside of his peak. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-03-06 13:00:00 (link to chat)I think it's unfair to label Randy Johnson a "freak show". Roger Clemens had a freakishly powerful and durable arm; Greg Maddux had a freakish ability to locate a pitch. To be that good one has to have some "freak" in their DNA.
(havybeaks from Michigan)
That wasn't meant to be derogatory at all. Most major leaguers are freak shows in that their skill sets are so incredibly rare that the average major leaguer is worth a couple million dollars a year, and the best of them are worth upwards of $20 million at their peak.

At those prices, i wish I could get my freak on.

Ok folks, I'm going to take one more question.... (Jay Jaffe)


BP Roundtables

DateRoundtable NameComment
2010-10-06 10:00:002010 Playoffs Day One"Paul (Drexel Hill): Gentlemen, prepare to watch the best pitcher of our generation work his magic. Sit back and enjoy."

Honest question, but how do we quantify our generation? Does this current generation include Greg Maddux, Pedro Martinez, and Roger Clemens?

Halladay is a good one, but he's definitely in their rear-view mirrors. (Brandon Warne)
2010-10-06 10:00:002010 Playoffs Day One"Paul (Drexel Hill): Gentlemen, prepare to watch the best pitcher of our generation work his magic. Sit back and enjoy."

Honest question, but how do we quantify our generation? Does this current generation include Greg Maddux, Pedro Martinez, and Roger Clemens?

Halladay is a good one, but he's definitely in their rear-view mirrors. (Brandon Warne)
2009-10-16 13:00:00NLCS Game Two/ALCS Game OneA year out of date, but compare the peak scores of these then-active pitchers:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=7451

Roger Clemens: 83.9
Greg Maddux 86/0
Randy Johnson 77.3
Pedro Martinez 68.8
Curt Schilling 65.9
Mike Mussina 64.3
Tom Glavine 63.7
John Smoltz 58.5
Avg HoF SP 67.2
(Jay Jaffe)
 

PITCHf/x Pitcher Profile

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Although he has not thrown an MLB pitch in 2014, Greg Maddux threw 4,367 pitches that were tracked by the PITCHf/x system between 2007 and 2008, including pitches thrown in the MLB Regular Season and the MLB Postseason. In 2008, he relied primarily on his Sinker (84mph) and Change (79mph), also mixing in a Cutter (83mph). He also rarely threw a Curve (71mph) and Slider (77mph).