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Birth Date1-4-1992
Height6' 3"
Weight205 lbs
Age23 years, 6 months, 26 days
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WARP Summary

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YEAR TEAM AGE G GS IP IP-SP IP-RP W L SV BS QS BQS PA H R ER HR TB BB UBB HBP SO ERA FIP FRA VORP WARP
2015 CIN 23 16 14 78.7 75.7 3.0 3 5 0 0 7 0 348 80 42 40 14 146 44 40 3 53 4.58 5.84 5.64 -2.8 -0.3
Career161478.775.73.03500703488042401414644403534.585.845.64-2.8-0.3

Advanced

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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP FRA FRA+ TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP PPF PVORP PWARP VORP WARP
2013 DYT A 9 0 8.3 3.24 137 .176 .256 .323 .392 .261 .304 112 1.9 0.2 1.9 0.2
2013 BAK A+ 5 0 5.7 9.47 5 .393 .262 .337 .403 .278 .333 91 -2.1 -0.2 -2.1 -0.2
2013 PEN AA 7 0 6.0 7.97 0 .319 .243 .325 .339 .257 .312 98 -2.0 -0.2 -2.5 -0.3
2013 CIN Rk 1 1 1.0 3.17 129 .295 .195 .269 .270 .211 .250 88 0.5 0.0 0.5 0.0
2014 PEN AA 24 24 120.7 5.05 82 .267 .249 .319 .367 .261 .285 97 1.7 0.2 7.9 1.0
2015 CIN MLB 16 14 78.7 5.64 60 .304 .249 .309 .390 .260 .282 98 -5.5 -0.6 -2.8 -0.3
2015 LOU AAA 3 3 19.0 3.86 122 .228 .254 .319 .362 .241 .300 109 2.4 0.2 2.7 0.3

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR GB% BABIP H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 WHIP ERA VORP WARP
2013 CIN Rk 0 0 0 1 1 1.0 1 0 1 0 100% .250 9.0 0.0 0.0 9.0 1.00 0.00 0.5 0.0
2013 DYT A 1 0 2 9 0 8.3 7 2 7 0 57% .304 7.6 2.2 0.0 7.6 1.08 0.00 1.9 0.2
2013 BAK A+ 0 1 2 5 0 5.7 6 5 6 1 50% .333 9.5 7.9 1.6 9.5 1.94 6.35 -2.1 -0.2
2013 PEN AA 0 0 0 7 0 6.0 6 6 5 1 47% .312 9.0 9.0 1.5 7.5 2.00 4.50 -2.5 -0.3
2014 PEN AA 4 6 0 24 24 120.7 112 44 84 9 53% .285 8.4 3.3 0.7 6.3 1.29 3.13 7.9 1.0
2015 CIN MLB 3 5 0 16 14 78.7 80 44 53 14 44% .282 9.2 5.0 1.6 6.1 1.58 4.58 -2.8 -0.3
2015 LOU AAA 2 1 0 3 3 19.0 20 4 12 2 44% .300 9.5 1.9 0.9 5.7 1.26 2.84 2.7 0.3

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT
2015 1352 0.4423 0.4537 0.8170 0.6605 0.2878 0.8861 0.6912 0.1814
Career13520.44230.45370.8170.66050.28780.88610.69120.1814

Injury History  —  No longer being updated

Last Update: 12/31/2014 23:59 ET

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Compensation

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Service TimeAgentContract Status
0 y 0 d1 year (2015)

Details
  • 1 year (2015). Contract selected by Cincinnati 4/29/15.
  • Drafted by Cincinnati 2013 (1s-38) (Cal State-Fullerton). $1.5M signing bonus ($1.4705M slot).

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BP Articles

Michael Lorenzen is referenced in the following articles.

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  Title Author Date
This article requires BP Premium accessWhat You Need to Know: July 27, 2015Ian Frazer2015-07-27
This article requires BP Premium accessFantasy Starting Pitcher Planner: Week 16Wilson Karaman2015-07-17
This article requires BP Premium accessThe Trade Game: Johnny CuetoBaseball Prospectus2015-07-15
This article requires BP Fantasy or Premium accessFantasy Starting Pitcher Planner: Week 11Wilson Karaman2015-06-12
This article requires BP Premium accessWhat You Need to Know: June 1, 2015Steven Jacobson2015-06-01
This article requires BP Fantasy or Premium accessFantasy Starting Pitcher Planner: Week NineWilson Karaman2015-05-29
This article requires BP Fantasy or Premium accessThe Stash List: Sixth Edition, 2015Bret Sayre2015-05-21
This article requires BP Premium accessRubbing Mud: Very Bad But Not (Altogether) BoringMatthew Trueblood2015-05-14
Expert FAAB Review: Week FiveMike Gianella2015-05-05
This article requires BP Fantasy or Premium accessFree Agent Watch: Week FiveMike Gianella2015-05-04
This article requires BP Fantasy or Premium accessFree Agent Watch: Week FiveKeith Cromer2015-05-04
This article requires BP Fantasy or Premium accessFantasy Starting Pitcher Planner: Week FiveWilson Karaman2015-05-01
This article requires BP Premium accessWhat You Need to Know: Silence!Daniel Rathman2015-04-30
This article requires BP Fantasy or Premium accessThe Stash List: Fourth Edition, 2015Bret Sayre2015-04-30
This article requires BP Premium accessThe Call-Up: Michael LorenzenMark Anderson2015-04-29
This article requires BP Premium accessThe Call-Up: Michael LorenzenWilson Karaman2015-04-29
This article requires BP Premium accessWhat You Need to Know: HIS NAME IS... !Daniel Rathman2015-04-29
This article requires BP Premium accessRubbing Mud: So You Want to Trade Your Draft PickMatthew Trueblood2015-04-20
This article requires BP Premium accessMinor League Update: Games of April 10-12, 2015Jeff Moore2015-04-13
This article requires BP Premium accessLeague Preview Series: Southern LeagueTucker Blair2015-04-07
Every Team's Moneyball: Cincinnati Reds: Go Your Own Way, Young ManBrendan Gawlowski2015-04-01
This article requires BP Fantasy or Premium accessThe Top 101 Dynasty League Prospects for 2015: Part 1: 51-101Bret Sayre2015-02-25
This article requires BP Fantasy or Premium accessGet to Know: Starting Pitcher Prospects for 2015Craig Goldstein2015-02-23
This article requires BP Fantasy or Premium accessGet to Know: Starting Pitcher Prospects for 2015Ben Carsley2015-02-23
This article requires BP Premium access2015 Prospects: The Post-Offseason Top 10s: National LeagueNick J. Faleris2015-02-19
This article requires BP Premium access2015 Prospects: The Post-Offseason Top 10s: National LeagueChris Mellen2015-02-19
2015 Prospects: 2015 Organizational RankingsJeff Moore2015-02-17
2015 Prospects: 2015 Organizational RankingsMark Anderson2015-02-17
2015 Prospects: 2015 Organizational RankingsBP Prospect Staff2015-02-17
The Top 101 Prospects of 2015: Sliced and DicedMauricio Rubio2015-02-16
The Top 101 Prospects of 2015: Sliced and DicedRob McQuown2015-02-16
2015 Prospects: Top 101 Prospects of 2015Chris Mellen2015-02-09
2015 Prospects: Top 101 Prospects of 2015Nick J. Faleris2015-02-09
2015 Prospects: Top 101 Prospects of 2015BP Prospect Staff2015-02-09
Before They Were Pros: NL CentralDavid Rawnsley2014-11-25
Before They Were Pros: NL CentralFrankie Piliere2014-11-25
Before They Were Pros: NL CentralTodd Gold2014-11-25
Before They Were Pros: NL CentralPatrick Ebert2014-11-25
This article requires BP Premium access2015 Prospects: Cincinnati Reds Top 10 ProspectsBP Prospect Staff2014-11-21
This article requires BP Premium access2015 Prospects: Cincinnati Reds Top 10 ProspectsNick J. Faleris2014-11-21
This article requires BP Premium accessMinor League Update: Games of Monday, August 4Jeff Moore2014-08-05
This article requires BP Premium accessMinor League Update: Games of Wednesday, July 30Jeff Moore2014-07-31
This article requires BP Premium accessThe BP Top 50: The Best Midseason ProspectsJason Parks2014-07-07
This article requires BP Premium accessThe BP Top 50: The Best Midseason ProspectsBP Prospect Staff2014-07-07
Eyewitness Accounts: July 3, 2014BP Prospect Staff2014-07-03
This article requires BP Premium accessMinor League Update: Games of Wednesday, July 2Jeff Moore2014-07-03
This article requires BP Premium accessMinor League Update: Games of Tuesday, July 1Jeff Moore2014-07-02
This article requires BP Premium accessMinor League Update: Games of Thursday, June 26Jeff Moore2014-06-27
This article requires BP Fantasy or Premium accessDynasty Dynamics: Progress Report: Prospect EditionCraig Goldstein2014-06-11
This article requires BP Fantasy or Premium accessDynasty Dynamics: Progress Report: Prospect EditionBen Carsley2014-06-11
The 2013 Redraft: How Much Has Changed?Ron Shah2014-06-10
The 2013 Redraft: How Much Has Changed?Baseball Prospectus2014-06-10
This article requires BP Premium accessMinor League Update: Games of Monday, June 9Jeff Moore2014-06-10
This article requires BP Premium accessMinor League Update: Games of Wednesday, June 4Jeff Moore2014-06-05
This article requires BP Premium accessScouting the Draft: 2014 Draft: Left-Handers to KnowNick J. Faleris2014-06-03
This article requires BP Premium accessMonday Morning Ten Pack: June 2, 2014BP Prospect Staff2014-06-02
This article requires BP Premium accessMonday Morning Ten Pack: June 2, 2014Jason Parks2014-06-02
This article requires BP Premium accessDraft Ten Pack: Whom Would You Draft, Part 3BP Prospect Staff2014-05-22
This article requires BP Premium accessDraft Ten Pack: Whom Would You Draft, Part 3Nick J. Faleris2014-05-22
This article requires BP Premium accessMinor League Update: Games of Thursday, May 8Jeff Moore2014-05-09
This article requires BP Premium accessMinor League Update: Games of Monday, April 28Jeff Moore2014-04-29
This article requires BP Premium accessMinor League Update: Games of Wednesday, April 23Jeff Moore2014-04-24
This article requires BP Premium accessMinor League Update: Games of April 7, 2014Jeff Moore2014-04-08
This article requires BP Premium accessNotes from the Field: Spring NotesJason Parks2014-03-10
This article requires BP Premium accessNotes from the Field: Spring NotesBP Prospect Staff2014-03-10
This article requires BP Premium accessMinor League Update: Spring Training Games of March 4Jeff Moore2014-03-05
25-and-Under Talent Rankings: Ranking All 30 Teams from Top to BottomBP Prospect Staff2014-03-03
25-and-Under Talent Rankings: Ranking All 30 Teams from Top to BottomJason Parks2014-03-03
This article requires BP Premium accessMinor League Update: Spring Training Games of February 27Jeff Moore2014-02-28
Prospects Will Break Your Heart: 2014 Organizational RankingsJason Parks2014-02-26
This article requires BP Fantasy or Premium accessGet to Know: Starting Pitcher ProspectsCraig Goldstein2014-02-26
This article requires BP Fantasy or Premium accessGet to Know: Starting Pitcher ProspectsBen Carsley2014-02-26
This article requires BP Premium accessProspects Will Break Your Heart: Cincinnati Reds Top 10 ProspectsJason Parks2014-02-03
Measuring Pitching with TrackMan: The Secrets of Fastball SpinZach Day2013-12-05
This article requires BP Premium accessMinor League Update: AFL and Winter League Recap for Games of November 12Jeff Moore2013-11-13
This article requires BP Premium accessMinor League Update: AFL Recap for Games of November 6Jeff Moore2013-11-07
This article requires BP Premium accessMinor League Update: AFL Recap for Games of October 21Jeff Moore2013-10-22
This article requires BP Premium accessMinor League Update: First Round Selections: National LeagueZach Mortimer2013-08-07
This article requires BP Premium accessDaily Roundup: Around the League: June 25, 2013Clint Chisam2013-06-25
BP Unfiltered: 2013 MLB Draft: Scouting Video IndexNick J. Faleris2013-06-06
This article requires BP Premium accessScouting the Draft: Pitchers to Know (Part 2)Nick J. Faleris2013-06-05
This article requires BP Premium accessPerfect Game Presents: MLB Draft Prospect Reports 26-50Allan Simpson2013-06-05
This article requires BP Premium accessScouting the Draft: Center Fielders to KnowNick J. Faleris2013-05-22
This article requires BP Premium accessPerfect Game Presents: Updated 2013 Top 100 Draft RankingsAllan Simpson2013-04-18
This article requires BP Premium accessPerfect Game's College Top 25: Analyzing the 2013 Top NCAA TeamsKendall Rogers2013-01-31
This article requires BP Premium accessPerfect Game's Top 100 Draft Prospects: The Top Talent for the 2013 Rule 4 DraftAllan Simpson2013-01-30
This article requires BP Premium accessPerfect Game's Preseason College All-Americans: Preseason Picks for NCAA's BestKendall Rogers2013-01-22
This article requires BP Premium accessScouting the Draft: College OutfieldersNick J. Faleris2012-11-15


BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2015-07-02 15:00:00 (link to chat)Hi Doug, could you rate these 5 Ps for future? Any stand out above the others? Joe Ross, Vincent Velasquez, Raisel Iglesias, Matt Wisler, Michael Lorenzen. Thanks!
(ColeWhittier from Pasadena)
Ross is an intriguing pitcher but his pitch selection is mirroring his brother's approach, including a high rate of SL's that simultaneously raises the injury risk and put the onus on his ability to bury the pitch. I really like Velasquez's delivery and the velo is legit. Iglesias is incredibly advanced for his age. Lorenzen has great stuff but was perhaps promoted before the command was honed, whereas Wisler holds the opposite profile of low ceiling but high floor. Long-term, give me Velasquez-Lorenzen-Wisler-Iglesias-Ross, but in the near-term I would go with Velasquez-Wisler-Ross-Iglesias-Lorenzen. Velasquez is above the others, and development will determine how the rest fall into place. (Doug Thorburn)
2015-01-05 15:00:00 (link to chat)Thoughts on Michael Lorenzen heading into next year? Are we doing a disservice by paying attention to his K/9 rather than his raw stuff?
(Kevin from Cincinnati )
I did not get to Pensacola this year unfortunately (it's a 9 hour trip, so it takes some advanced planning), but I do want to touch on this topic, because it's a good one. We can definitely get hung up on minor league stats. You wouldn't know Lorenzen throws 96 by looking at his K/9 rate. That said, I think K/9 is a good stat to look at, as long as its part of a bigger picture. It's a bit of a catch 22. We know Lorenzen has better stuff than that so we're not as worried about a low K rate as we would be with a guy who throws 89 mph. That said, he's already in Double-A, it would be nice to see him miss some bats, right? Not everyone who throws hard misses bats. It's not a given just because there's velocity. Just because she throws hard doesn't mean he's going to miss bats in the majors.

There are also other factors to consider. Did the Reds have him working on something in particular? Gerrit Cole is a good example of this. His minor league strike out totals did not match his stuff, which was as good as anybody's in the minors. Why not? Well for one, the Pirates had him working on his two-seam fastball and getting ground balls. He's still using that pitch a ton in the majors and having success. Could he strike out 9-10 batters a game, probably. But would he be better off?

There are a lot of variables, and they all tell part of the story. That's why you can't just look at the numbers, but you should take them into consideration. (Jeff Moore)
2014-11-24 13:00:00 (link to chat)How many of your NL Central Top 25 do you expect to make it on the top 100 list when BP publishes it? Average would be around 16 or 17 assuming talent is evenly distributed, right?
(Mike from Texas)
I did say I'd throw a top 25 NL Central Prospects list out there during this chat. With the understanding this is a work in progress (Mellen and I are starting to dig in on the framework for the Top 101), this is my own personal ranking of the prospects covered in our NL Central rankings:

1. SS Addison Russell
2. 3B Kris Bryant
3. RHP Robert Stephenson
4. OF Jorge Soler
5. OF Albert Almora
6. OF Stephen Piscotty
7. LHP Marco Gonzales
8. RHP Tyler Glasnow
9. RHP Jameson Taillon
10. OF Jesse Winker
11. OF/1B Josh Bell
12. RHP Alex Reyes
13. C Kyle Schwarber
14. RHP Michael Lorenzen
15. SS Orlando Arcia
16. OF Tyrone Taylor
17. OF Billy McKinney
18. RHP Pierce Johnson
19. SS Gleyber Torres
20. RHP Jack Flaherty
21. OF Yorman Rodriguez
22. C Reese McGuire
23. RHP Nick Howard
24. RHP Devin Williams
25. LHP Rob Kaminsky

I think all of those guys will be in the discussion for the 101, and expect there to be some shuffling in order of course. Definitely more than the average of 16 or 17. (NL Central Top 10s With Nick Faleris)
2014-10-09 15:00:00 (link to chat)Are we wrong to be excited about Michael Lorenzen?
(Mr. Red from Cincinnati)
BP ranked him in the midseason top 50, so I would say we're right here with you. I like him, but don't have him quite that high. For one: what's his out pitch? Two: can he flip a lineup over, and make consistent pitches in the 5th, 6th, 7th innings? I'm not going to hold the latter part against him, nor his struggles down the stretch. He had never thrown more than 40 innings in a season prior to this one. But, the questions are there, and until he answers them, I'm going to be skeptical. (Jordan Gorosh)
2014-06-25 13:00:00 (link to chat)What are your thoughts on Michael Lorenzen? Is he going to stay a starter? One "scouts are saying" said that he could even be better than Stephenson. Is this just hyperbole or is that even 1% possible?
(Norris from Chicago)
That was a real quote from a real scout, so at least someone thinks that that's true, though most of our guys who have seen both seemed to think that it was a little extreme. Still, he's made a complete turnaround this season as far as when it comes to staying as a starter, which has changed his entire profile as a prospect. (Jeff Moore)
2014-06-25 13:00:00 (link to chat)Folow-up to the Michael Lorenzen question... I have heard some people even prefer Ben Lively to Lorenzen. What futures do you see these two?
(LoyalRoyal from Kansas)
Those people aren't watching Lively or Lorenzen in person. I haven't seen either one either, but our guys have and I trust their reports. Lively got off to a great start this year but the stuff isn't dominant. He's a back-end guy. Lorenzen has a number two starter ceiling or could be an impact reliever. Lorenzen is closer to Stephenson than he is to Lively. (Jeff Moore)
2014-06-24 13:00:00 (link to chat)There have been glowing reports and not so glowing on Michael Lorenzen. His strikeouts don't seem to match the natural stuff; also there are reports of a curveball coming along. What have you seen/heard?
(Norris from Chicago)
I've heard some excellent things about Lorenzen. He's new to starting, and was a two way player in college, so the fact he's even having success at the AA level is exciting. I don't believe he has bat missing stuff quite yet, but he's a supreme athlete with some feel for pitching. The profile is more of a mid rotation to good #4 type, but I like him quite a bit. (Jordan Gorosh)
2014-04-29 13:00:00 (link to chat)Wut nu jointz is slammin in ya speakers theez dayz brah?
(Slama Lama from Ding Dong)
I don't know what this question is about but I also got a vote for Michael Lorenzen on that keeper league question. (R.J. Anderson)


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PITCHf/x Pitcher Profile

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Michael Lorenzen has thrown 1,460 pitches that have been tracked by the PITCHf/x system between 2013 and 2015, including pitches thrown in the MLB Regular Season, Spring Training and Fall/Winter Ball. In 2015, he has relied primarily on his Fourseam Fastball (95mph), also mixing in a Slider (86mph), Curve (81mph) and Change (86mph). He also rarely throws a Sinker (95mph).