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2014 Rest-of-Season Projections (seasonal age 32)
IP ERA WHIP SO W L SV WARP
0.3 3.48 1.26 0 0 0 0 0.0
Birth Date10-4-1981
Height6' 2"
Weight230 lbs
Age33 years, 0 months, 17 days
BatsL
ThrowsL
0.72010
-0.22011
0.52012
0.22013
0.32014
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WARP Summary

Standard

YEAR TEAM AGE G GS IP IP-SP IP-RP W L SV BS QS BQS PA H R ER HR TB BB UBB HBP SO ERA FIP FRA VORP WARP
2007 SDN 25 22 0 21.0 0.0 21.0 2 2 0 1 0 0 85 13 6 3 1 20 6 4 1 16 1.29 3.27 3.87 2.0 0.2
2008 SDN 26 25 0 25.7 0.0 25.7 0 4 0 3 0 0 128 42 25 24 4 64 13 11 0 17 8.42 5.33 5.66 -3.5 -0.4
2009 SDN 27 52 0 45.0 0.0 45.0 1 0 0 2 0 0 188 37 14 14 2 51 18 11 4 55 2.80 2.66 2.66 9.1 0.9
2010 SDN 28 65 0 35.0 0.0 35.0 1 0 0 3 0 0 137 23 5 5 1 29 7 5 1 45 1.29 1.59 1.87 6.3 0.7
2011 SDN 29 18 0 10.0 0.0 10.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 44 8 5 5 1 12 7 6 0 9 4.50 4.59 4.73 -1.6 -0.2
2012 SDN 30 55 0 31.7 0.0 31.7 1 4 1 4 0 0 141 30 13 12 2 41 14 11 3 39 3.41 3.10 2.25 4.7 0.5
2013 ARI 31 22 0 9.3 0.0 9.3 0 1 0 3 0 0 43 12 7 7 1 16 6 6 0 7 6.75 4.84 3.64 0.3 0.0
2013 SDN 31 50 0 30.0 0.0 30.0 3 1 0 2 0 0 121 28 7 7 3 41 4 4 1 29 2.10 2.89 3.63 2.0 0.2
2014 ANA 32 16 0 6.3 0.0 6.3 1 1 0 1 0 0 35 13 6 6 0 16 1 1 2 2 8.53 3.95 4.21 -0.0 -0.0
2014 ARI 32 37 0 24.0 0.0 24.0 1 0 0 1 0 0 100 23 10 7 3 36 3 2 2 25 2.62 3.27 2.90 2.8 0.3
Career3620238.00.0238.010131200010222299890183267961142443.403.193.2522.02.3

Advanced

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP FRA FRA+ TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP PPF PVORP PWARP VORP WARP
2005 BRV A+ 7 0 9.0 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 -.429 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2005 HEL Rk 6 0 7.7 3.91 132 .235 .265 .350 .381 .266 .333 87 2.6 0.2 2.6 0.2
2006 WVA A 26 0 29.0 2.94 140 .250 .251 .328 .365 .261 .365 90 9.5 1.0 9.5 1.0
2006 BRV A+ 16 0 30.0 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .157 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2006 HUN AA 4 0 5.0 1.94 148 .120 .219 .301 .290 .223 .100 71 2.1 0.2 2.1 0.2
2007 SDN MLB 22 0 21.0 3.87 113 .191 .267 .334 .421 .256 .197 93 2.0 0.2 2.0 0.2
2007 HUN AA 14 0 16.3 1.81 157 .160 .260 .338 .391 .268 .289 93 5.9 0.6 6.2 0.6
2007 NAS AAA 24 0 21.7 1.96 162 .207 .270 .332 .421 .252 .358 101 10.1 1.0 10.1 0.9
2007 POR AAA 8 0 8.7 1.53 168 .220 .284 .354 .465 .280 .400 93 4.5 0.4 4.4 0.4
2008 SDN MLB 25 0 25.7 5.66 62 .369 .268 .339 .418 .264 .404 88 -2.6 -0.3 -3.5 -0.4
2008 POR AAA 37 0 39.0 3.07 143 .224 .280 .354 .446 .262 .330 102 14.5 1.4 14.1 1.3
2009 SDN MLB 52 0 45.0 2.66 131 .228 .268 .342 .431 .272 .321 86 9.1 0.9 9.1 0.9
2009 POR AAA 19 0 19.0 2.63 139 .243 .272 .348 .421 .271 .327 89 6.0 0.6 6.0 0.6
2010 SDN MLB 65 0 35.0 1.87 149 .187 .261 .327 .410 .269 .265 84 6.3 0.7 6.3 0.7
2010 POR AAA 6 0 5.0 4.42 96 .320 .237 .315 .366 .241 .353 82 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.0
2011 SDN MLB 18 0 10.0 4.73 79 .240 .260 .333 .410 .270 .259 93 -1.6 -0.2 -1.6 -0.2
2011 LEL A+ 1 0 1.0 1.34 175 -.008 .288 .342 .471 .266 .000 96 0.4 0.0 0.4 0.0
2011 TUC AAA 8 0 7.3 1.22 181 .166 .299 .364 .449 .267 .200 113 4.0 0.4 4.0 0.4
2012 SDN MLB 55 0 31.7 2.25 144 .273 .256 .315 .399 .259 .337 94 4.7 0.5 4.7 0.5
2012 LEL A+ 1 1 1.0 2.65 132 -.038 .285 .352 .432 .301 .000 78 0.5 0.0 0.5 0.0
2013 ARI MLB 22 0 9.3 3.64 112 .300 .260 .330 .425 .271 .379 102 0.3 0.0 0.3 0.0
2013 SDN MLB 50 0 30.0 3.63 108 .236 .261 .324 .406 .264 .298 98 2.0 0.2 2.0 0.2
2014 ANA MLB 16 0 6.3 4.21 88 .395 .262 .315 .400 .273 .448 91 -0.0 -0.0 -0.0 -0.0
2014 ARI MLB 37 0 24.0 2.90 132 .259 .257 .317 .404 .265 .299 106 2.8 0.3 2.8 0.3

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR GB% BABIP H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 WHIP ERA VORP WARP
2005 BRV A+ 0 0 2 7 0 9.0 6 0 14 0 0% -.429 6.0 0.0 0.0 14.0 0.67 0.00 0.0 0.0
2005 HEL Rk 2 0 2 6 0 7.7 8 1 10 1 44% .333 9.4 1.2 1.2 11.7 1.17 3.51 2.6 0.2
2006 HUN AA 1 0 0 4 0 5.0 2 2 6 0 80% .100 3.6 3.6 0.0 10.8 0.80 1.80 2.1 0.2
2006 BRV A+ 3 1 2 16 0 30.0 12 9 32 1 0% .157 3.6 2.7 0.3 9.6 0.70 0.30 0.0 0.0
2006 WVA A 1 3 10 26 0 29.0 28 6 42 2 65% .365 8.7 1.9 0.6 13.0 1.17 2.48 9.5 1.0
2007 POR AAA 1 0 0 8 0 8.7 10 1 11 0 68% .400 10.3 1.0 0.0 11.4 1.26 1.03 4.4 0.4
2007 HUN AA 1 0 0 14 0 16.3 11 2 20 0 47% .289 6.1 1.1 0.0 11.0 0.80 0.55 6.2 0.6
2007 NAS AAA 2 1 1 24 0 21.7 19 7 33 0 57% .358 7.9 2.9 0.0 13.7 1.20 2.07 10.1 0.9
2007 SDN MLB 2 2 0 22 0 21.0 13 6 16 1 55% .197 5.6 2.6 0.4 6.9 0.90 1.29 2.0 0.2
2008 SDN MLB 0 4 0 25 0 25.7 42 13 17 4 45% .404 14.7 4.6 1.4 6.0 2.14 8.42 -3.5 -0.4
2008 POR AAA 5 2 3 37 0 39.0 38 11 44 2 55% .330 8.8 2.5 0.5 10.2 1.26 2.77 14.1 1.3
2009 SDN MLB 1 0 0 52 0 45.0 37 18 55 2 44% .321 7.4 3.6 0.4 11.0 1.22 2.80 9.1 0.9
2009 POR AAA 1 2 1 19 0 19.0 18 5 22 1 57% .327 8.5 2.4 0.5 10.4 1.21 1.89 6.0 0.6
2010 POR AAA 0 1 0 6 0 5.0 6 3 3 0 65% .353 10.8 5.4 0.0 5.4 1.80 3.60 0.1 0.0
2010 SDN MLB 1 0 0 65 0 35.0 23 7 45 1 44% .265 5.9 1.8 0.3 11.6 0.86 1.29 6.3 0.7
2011 SDN MLB 0 0 0 18 0 10.0 8 7 9 1 43% .259 7.2 6.3 0.9 8.1 1.50 4.50 -1.6 -0.2
2011 TUC AAA 0 0 0 8 0 7.3 3 3 10 0 40% .200 3.7 3.7 0.0 12.3 0.82 1.23 4.0 0.4
2011 LEL A+ 0 0 0 1 0 1.0 0 0 2 0 0% .000 0.0 0.0 0.0 18.0 0.00 0.00 0.4 0.0
2012 LEL A+ 0 0 0 1 1 1.0 0 0 1 0 50% .000 0.0 0.0 0.0 9.0 0.00 0.00 0.5 0.0
2012 SDN MLB 1 4 1 55 0 31.7 30 14 39 2 45% .337 8.5 4.0 0.6 11.1 1.39 3.41 4.7 0.5
2013 ARI MLB 0 1 0 22 0 9.3 12 6 7 1 23% .379 11.6 5.8 1.0 6.8 1.93 6.75 0.3 0.0
2013 SDN MLB 3 1 0 50 0 30.0 28 4 29 3 44% .298 8.4 1.2 0.9 8.7 1.07 2.10 2.0 0.2
2014 ANA MLB 1 1 0 16 0 6.3 13 1 2 0 62% .448 18.5 1.4 0.0 2.8 2.21 8.53 -0.0 -0.0
2014 ARI MLB 1 0 0 37 0 24.0 23 3 25 3 27% .299 8.6 1.1 1.1 9.4 1.08 2.62 2.8 0.3

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT
2008 475 0.5537 0.4863 0.8874 0.6578 0.2736 0.9306 0.7586 0.1082
2009 794 0.5554 0.4282 0.7529 0.5714 0.2493 0.7817 0.6705 0.2471
2010 550 0.5473 0.4909 0.7630 0.6678 0.2771 0.8159 0.6087 0.2370
2011 180 0.5333 0.4889 0.7955 0.7188 0.2262 0.7826 0.8421 0.2045
2012 521 0.5509 0.4837 0.7619 0.6411 0.2906 0.8098 0.6324 0.2381
2013 676 0.5399 0.4941 0.7904 0.6712 0.2862 0.8163 0.7191 0.2096
2014 513 0.5750 0.5692 0.8219 0.7458 0.3303 0.8545 0.7222 0.1747
Career37090.55220.48720.79130.6560.27910.82620.69160.2076

Injury History

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2014-08-03 2014-09-12 15-DL 40 37 Left Ankle Sprain -
2012-10-10 2012-10-10 Off 0 0 Right Knee Surgery Patellar Tendon Debridement and Repair 2012-10-10 -
2012-07-26 2012-09-01 15-DL 37 33 Right Knee Inflammation Tendonitis - -
2011-03-22 2011-08-04 60-DL 135 112 Left Shoulder Surgery Exploratory 2011-05-02
2011-02-24 2011-03-22 Camp 26 0 Left Shoulder Strain Rotator Cuff -
2010-05-19 2010-05-21 DTD 2 2 Trunk Soreness Side -
2010-03-26 2010-04-22 15-DL 27 15 Left Shoulder Soreness -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2014 ARI $2,375,000
2013 SDN $1,350,000
2012 SDN $700,000
2011 SDN $433,900
2010 SDN $412,700
2008 SDN $393,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
5 yrPrevious$3,289,600
2011Current$2,375,000
6 yrPvs + Cur$5,664,600
6 yrTotal$5,664,600

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
5 y 68 dNick Brockmeyer, Platinum Sports1 year/$2.375M (2014)

Details
  • 1 year/$2.375M (2014). Re-signed by Arizona 1/17/14 (avoided arbitration). Acquired by LA Angels in trade from Arizona 7/5/14.
  • 1 year/$1.35M (2013). Re-signed by San Diego 1/18/13 (avoided arbitration). Acquired by Arizona in trade from San Diego 7/31/13.
  • 1 year/$0.7M (2012). Re-signed by San Diego 1/17/12 (avoided arbitration).
  • 1 year/$0.4339M (2011). Re-signed by San Diego 2/27/11.
  • 1 year/$0.4127M (2010). Re-signed 3/3/10.
  • 1 year/$0.404M (2009). Re-signed 2/27/09.
  • 1 year/$0.393M (2008). Re-signed 3/3/08.
  • 1 year (2007). Acquired in trade from Milwaukee 7/25/07.

2014 Preseason Forecast

Last Update: 3/11/2014 05:35 ET

PCT W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR BABIP WHIP ERA FRA VORP WARP
90o 0 0 0 0 0 57.8 39 14 62 4 .266 0.92 2.02 2.2 0.0 0.0
80o 0 0 0 0 0 51.5 38 14 55 4 .283 1.00 2.39 2.6 0.0 0.0
70o 0 0 0 0 0 47.1 36 13 50 4 .295 1.06 2.65 2.89 0.0 0.0
60o 0 0 0 0 0 43.5 35 13 46 4 .305 1.11 2.89 3.14 0.0 0.0
50o 0 0 0 0 0 40.1 34 12 43 3 .315 1.16 3.11 3.38 0.0 0.0
40o 0 0 0 0 0 36.8 33 12 39 3 .324 1.21 3.33 3.62 0.0 0.0
30o 0 0 0 0 0 33.4 31 11 36 3 .334 1.26 3.57 3.88 0.0 0.0
20o 0 0 0 0 0 29.5 29 11 31 3 .346 1.33 3.86 4.19 0.0 0.0
10o 0 0 0 0 0 24.2 25 9 26 3 .363 1.43 4.26 4.64 0.0 0.0
Weighted Mean0000039.43312423.3121.143.073.340.00.0

Diagnostics

Breakout Rate Improve Rate Collapse Rate Attrition Rate MLB %
28% 47% 23% 11% 86%

Long-Term Forecast (Beyond the 2014 Projections)

Playing time estimates are based on performance, not Depth Charts.
Year Age W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR GB% BABIP WHIP ERA FRA H/9 BB/9 K/9 HR/9 WARP
20153331157061551959547.3161.223.403.708.22.88.80.70.9
20163431149052471852547.3181.243.553.868.13.18.90.90.7
20173531150053481555547.3181.193.373.678.22.59.30.80.8
20183621142044401545447.3231.243.503.818.13.09.10.80.6
20193721139041381341447.3231.233.443.748.32.88.90.90.6
20203821135038341237447.3201.223.613.938.12.98.81.00.5
20213921137039361238447.3231.243.613.928.42.88.80.90.5
20224021138040371239447.3201.213.503.808.32.78.70.90.5
20234121136038361236447.3211.263.704.028.52.88.50.90.4

Upside By Year

2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 PEAK 5
28.113.17.916.56.95.172.6

Comparable Players (Similarity Index 79)

Rank Score Name Year Run Average Trend
1 88 Heath Bell 2010 2.19
2 86 J.J. Putz 2009 5.52
3 85 Fernando Rodney 2009 4.52
4 85 Pedro Feliciano 2009 3.94
5 85 Michael Wuertz 2011 6.68
6 84 Brendan Donnelly 2004 3.00
7 84 Todd Coffey 2013 0.00 DNP
8 84 John Grabow 2011 5.63
9 84 Kevin Gregg 2010 3.66
10 84 Mike MacDougal 2009 5.13
11 84 Jason Frasor 2010 4.24
12 83 Sparky Lyle 1977 2.76
13 83 Doug Jones 1989 2.79
14 83 Chad Qualls 2011 3.75
15 82 Jared Burton 2013 3.95
16 82 Will Ohman 2010 3.86
17 82 Mike Adams 2011 1.59
18 82 Francisco Cordero 2007 3.27
19 82 Jose Veras 2013 3.30
20 82 Kyle Farnsworth 2008 4.77
21 82 Jonathan Papelbon 2013 3.36
22 81 Michael Gonzalez 2010 4.01
23 81 Robb Nen 2002 2.44
24 81 Jose Valverde 2010 3.43
25 81 Santiago Casilla 2013 2.52
26 81 Dennys Reyes 2009 3.73
27 81 Hoyt Wilhelm 1955 4.75
28 81 Jeremy Affeldt 2011 3.21
29 81 Paul Shuey 2003 3.00
30 80 Doug Slaten 2012 2.77
31 80 Matt Wise 2008 6.43
32 80 Hideki Okajima 2008 2.61
33 80 Jeff Montgomery 1994 4.23
34 80 Scot Shields 2008 4.12
35 80 George Sherrill 2009 1.70
36 79 Mike Marshall 1975 3.79 DNP
37 79 Matt Thornton 2009 2.74
38 79 Jason Christiansen 2002 5.40
39 79 Saul Rivera 2010 22.09
40 79 Tyler Yates 2010 0.00 DNP
41 79 Jason Isringhausen 2005 2.14
42 78 John Hiller 1975 2.67 DNP
43 78 Sean Green 2011 6.17
44 78 Jim Kern 1981 3.00
45 78 Ricardo Rincon 2002 4.50
46 78 Bobby Seay 2010 0.00 DNP
47 78 Keith Foulke 2005 5.91
48 78 Willie Hernandez 1987 4.96
49 78 Brian Fuentes 2008 3.16
50 78 Frank Francisco 2012 5.74
51 78 Jeff Russell 1994 5.53
52 78 Jon Rauch 2011 4.85
53 77 Scott Williamson 2008 0.00 DNP
54 77 Roberto Hernandez 1997 2.79
55 77 Jim Mecir 2002 4.79
56 77 Craig Breslow 2013 2.41
57 77 Damaso Marte 2007 2.78
58 77 Doug Corbett 1985 6.65
59 77 Juan Rincon 2011 0.00 DNP
60 77 J.C. Romero 2008 2.75
61 77 Felix Rodriguez 2005 5.29
62 77 Rudy Seanez 2001 3.00
63 77 John Franco 1993 5.94
64 77 Jeff Fassero 1995 4.86
65 76 John Wetteland 1999 4.09
66 76 Billy Wagner 2004 2.98
67 76 Gene Garber 1980 4.59
68 76 Bob Wickman 2001 2.53
69 76 Gary Lavelle 1981 4.52
70 76 Matt Guerrier 2011 4.21
71 76 Rafael Soriano 2012 2.26
72 76 Scott Linebrink 2009 5.46
73 75 Arthur Rhodes 2002 2.45
74 75 Vinnie Chulk 2011 0.00 DNP
75 75 Brian Tallet 2010 6.87
76 75 Aaron Heilman 2011 7.13
77 75 Bryan Harvey 1995 0.00 DNP
78 75 Matt Lindstrom 2012 3.26
79 75 Jack Taschner 2010 6.41
80 75 Jesse Orosco 1989 2.31
81 75 Dave Righetti 1991 3.64
82 75 Bruce Sutter 1985 4.69
83 75 Tippy Martinez 1982 3.69
84 75 Mike Timlin 1998 2.95
85 75 LaTroy Hawkins 2005 4.15
86 75 Ramon Hernandez 1973 2.71
87 74 Rich Gossage 1984 2.99
88 74 Jose Mesa 1998 5.31
89 74 Kerry Ligtenberg 2003 3.49
90 74 Jesus Colome 2010 5.29
91 74 Lindy McDaniel 1968 3.31
92 74 Kent Tekulve 1979 3.22
93 74 Justin Miller 2010 4.44
94 74 Mike Maddux 1994 5.11
95 74 Justin Hampson 2012 3.60
96 74 Mark Eichhorn 1993 3.34
97 74 Mike Jackson 1997 4.08
98 74 Tim Burke 1991 4.16
99 74 Mike Henneman 1994 7.01
100 73 Bill Campbell 1981 4.28

Platoon

SORT_FIELD PLATOON AVG OBP SLG TAv
10 vs L (Multi) .224 .295 .296 .241
11 vs R (Multi) .291 .344 .433 .268
18 Split (Multi) -.067 -.049 -.137 -.028
19 LgAvg (Multi) -.026 -.032 -.063 -.030
30 vs L (2013) .250 .323 .310 .254
31 vs R (2013) .288 .299 .470 .246
38 Split (2013) -.038 .024 -.160 .008
39 LgAvg (2013) -.025 -.031 -.062 -.029

BP Annual Player Comments

YearComment
2014 Due to publishing agreements, the 2014 player comments and team essays are only available in the Baseball Prospectus 2014 book (available in hardcopy, e-book, and Kindle).
2013 After missing most of 2011 recovering from left shoulder surgery, Thatcher stayed relatively healthy last year. He sat out August with a right knee issue that required surgery after the season, but for the most part he returned to the business of abusing left-handed batters. Thatcher's sidearm delivery makes it difficult for them to pick up the ball. Right-handers have no such trouble, limiting Thatcher to the role of LOOGY, albeit a good one.
2012 After being an integral part of Bud Black's bullpen each of the previous two seasons, Thatcher developed soreness in the back of his left shoulder during spring training and required surgery in May. The sidewinding southpaw, who began 2010 on the disabled list due to a strain in the same area of his shoulder, didn't make his 2011 debut until August. When healthy, Thatcher's deceptive delivery is difficult on left-handed hitters, although he handled righties just as well in 2010. Because of his funky pitching motion, Thatcher experiences occasional lapses in control, as he did last year after returning from surgery. With the benefit of rest and a full spring training, he should regain his status as a late-inning option for the Padres.
2011 The source of Thatcher's microscopic ERA last season was an anomalous showing against right-handed hitters. Even without reproducing that performance, Thatcher has value to the Padres due to striking out over 38 percent of the left-handers he has faced in the last two years, a rate that places him fifth in the majors (minimum 100 lefties faced). A left-shoulder strain kept him off the mound for most of April, but he still appeared in 65 games and allowed only one run between July 9 and the end of the season. He won't be that unstoppable again unless manager Bud Black hides him from right-handers wherever possible.
2010 Thatcher was one of many pleasant surprises for the Padres in the second half of last season, as he became a lock-down left-hander out of the bullpen. The source of his success? Thatcher moved from the center of the pitching rubber to the far left side, and that helped him on two fronts: it made his sweeping slider almost unhittable to left-handed batters, and made his 90 mph fastball a little more deceptive to right-handers. So now Thatcher isn't strictly a left-on-left guy, which makes him that much more valuable as the other lefty in the pen beyond Mujica.
2009 Independent league graduate and aspiring LOOGY Joe Thatcher looked like a steal when the Padres acquired him for a piece of Scott Linebrink in 2007, and he pitched like one, too. Things went south for the southpaw last season however, and while he wasn't really eight-plus ERA bad, he did lose his feel for the strike zone, rendering a stay in Triple-A inevitable. Thatcher straightened himself out in Portland, as minor league lefties stayed true to form by succumbing to his sweeping slider. It's only a matter of time—and probably very little of it—before their major league counterparts follow suit.
2008 If Startup does get setup work, he should be paired with this guy. Thatcher was an independent league find by the Brewers in 2005, and part of the Linebrink trade at last year's deadline. He's a side-armer with a big slider, and is most certainly a LOOGY-in-training rather than a closer candidate. The Padres have often gone without a left-hander in the pen, but Thatcher and Hampson should give them two good ones this year.

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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2010-10-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)i'm assuming you dont think the padre bullpen will have anything like a repeat performance, right?
(nicety from ca)
It's probably hard to believe without accusing me of being a biased fanboy about it, but I see them performing pretty close to that level. Here's the thing--Bell/Adams/Gregerson are all legitimately excellent pitchers, and the kind of guys who can replicate their success from year-to-year. Edward Mujica was unlucky in 2010, and is much better than his ERA indicates--have a look at his K/BB ratio of 12.0 for proof of that. Ernesto Frieri is a young pitcher with some promise who did well in his first stint in the bigs, and I expect him to be a bit better. Joe Thatcher should be there all season long in 2011. Ryan Webb has some upside and is the last option in the pen. This is a collection of fantastic pitchers who, if they are all together again, can perform just as well.

Will they *definitely* repeat? I'm not saying that. But if you asked me to pick one pen that could replicate its previous season, my money would be on the one in San Diego. (Marc Normandin)
2010-08-26 13:00:00 (link to chat)Care to gush about how studly the Pads' bullpen is? They remind me of the stacked Angels pen of ought-two.
(Functionary from Grey Cubicle, DC)
Well, the other night was a great example. They used four relievers--Ernesto Frieri, Joe Thatcher, Edward Mujica and Tim Stauffer--for three scoreless innings of relief. None of those three relievers are the key pieces in the bullpen (Heath Bell, Mike Adams, Luke Gregerson). Their "worst" reliever by ERA is Mujica, who has a K/BB of 11.6 thanks to 58 strikeouts and just five walks. (Marc Normandin)
2010-08-26 13:00:00 (link to chat)D'oh! Addendum: Care to expand on your praise of Heath Bell, Mike Adams, and Luke Gregerson, and add lauds and exultates for Joe Thatcher and Edward Mujica?
(Functionary from Grey Cubicle, DC)
Joe Thatcher missed the beginning of the season, but in the 27 1/3 innings since he's returned, he's held lefties to a line of .149/.212/.255. Mujica is a beast in the K/BB department as I said. He's given up some homers but seems to have that little problem under control lately, and is flat out dominant at times despite being a back-end option.

Bell walks some hitters sometimes, but most of the hits against him are dinky singles, and he can bring it and whiffs plenty of batters. The only closer I trust more than Bell is Mariano Rivera. Luke Gregerson and Mike Adams would be closing for most of the other teams in baseball--even when Gregerson walks batters he's an ace reliever, but this year he's got the walks under control. This is not a Petco bullpen, this is a pen full of really, really good pitchers. (Marc Normandin)


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Joe Thatcher has thrown 4,115 pitches that have been tracked by the PITCHf/x system between 2007 and 2014, including pitches thrown in the MLB Regular Season and Spring Training. In 2014, he has relied primarily on his Cutter (87mph) and Slider (79mph).