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2014 Rest-of-Season Projections (seasonal age 30)
PA AVG HR R RBI SB TAv WARP
1 .258 0 0 0 0 .283 0.0
Birth Date9-19-1983
Height6' 2"
Weight205 lbs
Age31 years, 1 months, 5 days
BatsL
ThrowsR
1.72010
0.02011
3.82012
1.42013
1.72014
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WARP Summary

Standard

YEAR TEAM AGE G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR TB BB SO HBP SF SH RBI SB CS AVG OBP SLG TAv VORP FRAA WARP
2008 TBA 24 5 10 10 2 2 0 0 0 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200 .200 .200 .122 -1.1 -0.0 -0.1
2010 TBA 26 109 404 339 57 89 18 3 5 128 59 39 2 3 1 44 4 0 .263 .372 .378 .269 18.5 -2.0 1.7
2011 TBA 27 89 273 246 26 55 15 1 5 87 25 36 1 0 1 27 1 2 .224 .298 .354 .229 1.0 -0.9 0.0
2012 SEA 28 108 361 294 41 81 19 2 10 134 56 51 5 5 1 50 5 0 .276 .394 .456 .339 36.2 -0.4 3.8
2013 OAK 29 70 249 207 31 56 12 0 3 77 38 45 2 1 1 21 2 1 .271 .387 .372 .291 13.2 -0.0 1.4
2014 OAK 30 99 344 307 42 81 18 3 9 132 28 60 7 2 0 40 2 0 .264 .337 .430 .290 16.1 -1.1 1.7
Career480164114031993648293256020623317114182143.259.359.399.28583.9-4.48.5

Advanced

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg G PA TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP BPF BRAA repLVL POS_ADJ FRAA BRR BVORP BWARP VORP WARP
2003 HUD A- 47 188 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .258 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2004 HUD A- 57 225 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .352 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2005 SWM A 92 386 .340 .259 .334 .379 .254 .332 101 10 3.4 -0.9 0.6 3.3 17.7 1.8 17.7 1.8
2006 VIS A+ 95 406 .319 .288 .364 .435 .285 .334 98 22.1 10.1 -3.3 -0.2 -0.7 27.7 2.7 27.7 2.7
2007 MNT AA 109 450 .323 .261 .331 .392 .266 .336 92 33.2 14.3 2.5 -0.7 -4.2 46.8 4.7 46.8 4.7
2008 TBA MLB 5 10 .122 .268 .347 .445 .271 .250 105 -1.5 0.3 0.1 -0.0 -0.0 -1.1 -0.1 -1.1 -0.1
2008 MNT AA 85 356 .271 .259 .338 .390 .251 .286 112 4.5 10.4 4.5 -1.3 -3.3 12.1 1.1 12.1 1.1
2008 DUR AAA 31 118 .277 .259 .327 .392 .257 .281 97 2.1 3.4 1.5 0.0 -0.3 4.2 0.4 4.2 0.4
2009 DUR AAA 104 387 .250 .259 .327 .391 .247 .300 113 -4.4 11.5 5.9 1.8 -2.1 8.8 1.0 8.8 1.0
2010 TBA MLB 109 404 .269 .258 .325 .405 .257 .282 106 3.5 11.1 5.1 -2.0 -0.7 18.5 1.7 18.5 1.7
2010 DUR AAA 3 12 .314 .240 .299 .357 .234 .444 98 0.7 0.4 0.2 0.2 -0.2 1.6 0.2 1.6 0.2
2011 TBA MLB 89 273 .229 .252 .314 .402 .258 .244 99 -8.3 7.4 4.2 -0.9 0.7 1.0 0.0 1.0 0.0
2011 DUR AAA 6 22 .305 .270 .327 .416 .261 .353 88 1.2 0.7 0.1 -0.0 -0.0 1.7 0.2 1.7 0.2
2012 SEA MLB 108 361 .339 .248 .312 .402 .260 .298 90 28.4 9.9 -0.7 -0.4 0.1 36.2 3.8 36.2 3.8
2013 OAK MLB 70 249 .291 .255 .320 .407 .268 .331 95 7.4 6.5 1.8 -0.0 -0.7 13.2 1.4 13.2 1.4
2014 OAK MLB 99 344 .290 .251 .310 .386 .262 .300 96 9.8 8.9 0.6 -1.1 -2.2 16.1 1.7 16.1 1.7

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG ISO TAv VORP FRAA WARP
2003 HUD A- 188 20 35 7 0 2 20 25 26 2 0 .227 .346 .312 .084 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
2004 HUD A- 225 34 60 17 2 2 35 22 32 1 0 .302 .379 .437 .136 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
2005 SWM A 386 61 102 25 1 14 50 42 53 3 1 .307 .392 .515 .208 .340 17.7 0.6 1.8
2006 VIS A+ 406 58 113 22 0 10 55 31 48 1 2 .309 .367 .451 .142 .319 27.7 -0.2 2.7
2007 MNT AA 450 62 120 24 2 12 71 59 49 2 2 .316 .411 .484 .168 .323 46.8 -0.7 4.7
2008 TBA MLB 10 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 .200 .200 .200 .000 .122 -1.1 -0.0 -0.1
2008 DUR AAA 118 14 30 7 0 5 24 10 14 1 1 .278 .339 .481 .204 .277 4.2 0.0 0.4
2008 MNT AA 356 51 77 13 2 7 43 62 33 1 0 .271 .411 .405 .134 .271 12.1 -1.3 1.1
2009 DUR AAA 387 42 88 14 2 5 30 46 49 1 0 .266 .366 .366 .100 .250 8.8 1.8 1.0
2010 TBA MLB 404 57 89 18 3 5 44 59 39 4 0 .263 .372 .378 .115 .269 18.5 -2.0 1.7
2010 DUR AAA 12 1 4 1 0 0 2 0 2 0 0 .364 .364 .455 .091 .314 1.6 0.2 0.2
2011 TBA MLB 273 26 55 15 1 5 27 25 36 1 2 .224 .298 .354 .130 .229 1.0 -0.9 0.0
2011 DUR AAA 22 2 6 2 0 0 4 2 3 0 0 .300 .364 .400 .100 .305 1.7 -0.0 0.2
2012 SEA MLB 361 41 81 19 2 10 50 56 51 5 0 .276 .394 .456 .180 .339 36.2 -0.4 3.8
2013 OAK MLB 249 31 56 12 0 3 21 38 45 2 1 .271 .387 .372 .101 .291 13.2 -0.0 1.4
2014 OAK MLB 344 42 81 18 3 9 40 28 60 2 0 .264 .337 .430 .166 .290 16.1 -1.1 1.7

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT
2008 42 0.4524 0.3571 0.7333 0.5263 0.2174 0.8000 0.6000 0.2667
2010 1657 0.5130 0.3293 0.8881 0.4765 0.1735 0.9333 0.7571 0.1119
2011 1109 0.5068 0.3655 0.8864 0.5196 0.2066 0.9555 0.7080 0.1136
2012 1400 0.4971 0.3838 0.8492 0.5647 0.2045 0.9033 0.7014 0.1508
2013 1060 0.4981 0.3611 0.8089 0.5189 0.2030 0.9088 0.5556 0.1911
2014 1311 0.5095 0.4531 0.8131 0.6392 0.2597 0.8970 0.5988 0.1869
Career65790.50510.3770.85080.54210.20790.91860.6720.1492

Injury History

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2014-08-24 2014-09-29 15-DL 36 34 - Head Concussion Worsening Symptoms After Foul Ball Few Weeks Ago -
2014-07-27 2014-07-27 DTD 0 0 Left Knee Inflammation -
2014-05-23 2014-05-25 DTD 2 2 - Low Back Soreness -
2014-02-27 2014-03-01 Camp 2 0 Left Elbow Laceration Required Stitches - HBP - -
2013-07-26 2013-10-01 15-DL 67 60 - Head Concussion Foul Tip - -
2013-06-24 2013-07-03 DTD 9 6 Left Hand Abrasion Palm -
2013-06-21 2013-06-23 DTD 2 2 Left Hand Abrasion Palm - -
2013-05-16 2013-05-18 DTD 2 1 Right Lower Leg Contusion HBP - -
2011-07-10 2011-08-19 15-DL 40 33 Right Abdomen Strain Oblique - -
2011-03-20 2011-03-25 Camp 5 0 Groin Contusion Foul Ball -
2011-03-03 2011-03-04 Camp 1 0 Low Back Stiffness -
2005-08-08 2005-09-05 Minors 28 0 - Shoulder Surgery Rotator Cuff 2005-08-07 -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2014 OAK $2,300,000
2013 OAK $1,800,000
2012 SEA $495,200
2011 TBA $427,200
YearsDescriptionSalary
3 yrPrevious$2,722,400
2011Current$2,300,000
4 yrPvs + Cur$5,022,400
4 yrTotal$5,022,400

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
4 y 32 dLevinsons ACES1 year/$2.3M (2014)

Details
  • 1 year/$2.3M (2014). Re-signed by Oakland 1/16/14 (avoided arbitration). Performance bonuses: $25,000 each for 90 starts at catcher, 450 plate appearances.
  • 1 year/$1.8M (2013). Acquired by Oakland in trade from Seattle 1/16/13. Signed by Oakland 1/17/13 (avoided arbitration).
  • 1 year/$0.4952M (2012). Re-signed by Seattle 2/27/12.
  • 1 year/$0.4272M (2011). Re-signed by Tampa Bay 2/26/11. Acquired by Seattle in trade from Tampa Bay 11/28/11.
  • 1 year (2010). Re-signed by Tampa Bay 3/3/10.
  • 1 year/$0.401M (2009). Re-signed by Tampa Bay 2/25/09.
  • 1 year (2008). Contract purchased by Tampa Bay 11/20/07.
  • Drafted by Tampa Bay 2003 (12-338) (Southwestern JC, Calif.).

2014 Preseason Forecast

Last Update: 3/11/2014 05:35 ET

PCT PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG TAv VORP FRAA WARP
90o 463 58 115 26 2 8 50 71 58 5 1 .299 .409 .444 .321 36.6 C 0 4.0
80o 441 53 105 23 2 8 46 64 57 4 1 .284 .391 .421 .307 28.9 C 0 3.1
70o 425 50 98 22 2 7 43 60 56 4 1 .273 .378 .405 .297 23.7 C 0 2.6
60o 412 47 92 20 2 7 41 56 56 4 1 .263 .367 .391 .288 19.5 C 0 2.1
50o 399 44 86 19 2 6 38 53 55 4 1 .255 .357 .378 .280 15.8 C 0 1.7
40o 386 42 82 18 2 6 36 50 54 3 1 .246 .347 .365 .272 12.2 C 0 1.3
30o 373 39 77 17 2 6 34 47 53 3 1 .237 .336 .351 .263 8.7 C 0 0.9
20o 357 36 70 16 1 5 32 43 52 3 1 .227 .323 .336 .253 4.8 C 0 0.5
10o 335 32 62 14 1 5 28 38 50 3 1 .212 .305 .314 .239 0.0 C 0 0.0
Weighted Mean4054689202640555541.259.362.384.28417.5C 01.9

Diagnostics

Breakout Rate Improve Rate Collapse Rate Attrition Rate MLB %
1% 41% 3% 1% 97%

Long-Term Forecast (Beyond the 2014 Projections)

Playing time estimates are based on performance, not Depth Charts.
Year Age PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB AVG OBP SLG TAv WARP VORP BRR POS_ADJ REP_ADJ RAA FRAA
2015316096812631275473864.242.336.351.2591.615.3-0.21.314.9-0.8-0.4
2016326297313029395979924.241.341.357.2621.816.9-0.31.314.91.0-0.4
2017336006812828375372842.245.340.349.2581.312.1-0.31.212.1-0.8-0.4
2018346336913030365475981.237.331.337.2521.09.3-0.31.212.6-4.1-0.4
2019356046712428375372950.239.333.345.2541.312.0-0.31.014.9-3.7-0.4
2020366016712026275272960.232.328.334.2501.09.5-0.31.014.9-6.1-0.4
20213763570127273855751060.230.325.331.2470.87.9-0.30.914.9-7.7-0.4
20223861266120282752721050.227.321.330.2460.77.0-0.30.814.9-8.5-0.4
202339491529722233959790.231.328.317.2440.22.3-0.20.65.2-3.3-0.3

Upside By Year

2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 PEAK 5
61.943.150.342.71915.4217

Comparable Players (Similarity Index 73)

Rank Score Name Year TAv Trend
1 90 Russell Martin 2013 .260
2 86 Ted Simmons 1980 .311
3 85 Yadier Molina 2013 .297
4 83 Victor Martinez 2009 .289
5 83 Conor Jackson 2012 .000 DNP
6 82 Joe Mauer 2013 .315
7 81 John Olerud 1999 .309
8 78 Mike Sweeney 2004 .284
9 78 Casey Kotchman 2013 .020
10 77 Bill Freehan 1972 .296
11 77 Ian Kinsler 2012 .260
12 77 Alvin Davis 1991 .239
13 77 Wade Boggs 1988 .343
14 76 Alberto Callaspo 2013 .264
15 76 Don Mattingly 1991 .258
16 76 Tim Raines 1990 .299
17 76 Rusty Staub 1974 .286
18 76 Al Kaline 1965 .319
19 75 Paul Lo Duca 2002 .261
20 75 Smoky Burgess 1957 .322
21 75 Stan Musial 1951 .362
22 75 Yogi Berra 1955 .293
23 75 David DeJesus 2010 .279
24 74 Mike Hargrove 1980 .301
25 74 Joe Morgan 1974 .346
26 74 Carlos Ruiz 2009 .269
27 74 Mark Grace 1994 .275
28 74 Maicer Izturis 2011 .262
29 74 Josh Bard 2008 .200
30 74 Rickey Henderson 1989 .318
31 74 Tony Gwynn 1990 .274
32 73 Nate McLouth 2012 .248
33 73 Kevin Youkilis 2009 .316
34 73 Floyd Robinson 1966 .270
35 73 Sal Bando 1974 .302
36 73 Kent Hrbek 1990 .295
37 73 Edwin Encarnacion 2013 .319
38 73 Jose Reyes 2013 .283
39 73 Brian Giles 2001 .325
40 73 Yunel Escobar 2013 .264
41 73 Michael Barrett 2007 .226
42 72 Ben Zobrist 2011 .299
43 72 Joe Cunningham 1962 .312
44 72 Chris Iannetta 2013 .275
45 72 Keith Hernandez 1984 .317
46 72 Bill Madlock 1981 .330
47 72 Brian Roberts 2008 .288
48 72 Edgardo Alfonzo 2004 .263
49 72 Ferris Fain 1951 .344
50 72 Garrett Atkins 2010 .197
51 72 Nick Johnson 2009 .298
52 71 Shane Victorino 2011 .315
53 71 Jimmy Rollins 2009 .251
54 71 Toby Harrah 1979 .305
55 71 D'Angelo Jimenez 2008 .000 DNP
56 71 Geovany Soto 2013 .289
57 71 Edgar Martinez 1993 .276
58 71 Roy White 1974 .281
59 70 Dave Magadan 1993 .269
60 70 Chris Snyder 2011 .295
61 70 Gail Hopkins 1973 .264
62 70 Nomar Garciaparra 2004 .289
63 70 Brian Downing 1981 .276
64 70 Roberto Alomar 1998 .267
65 70 Wally Joyner 1992 .266
66 70 Kevin Mench 2008 .247
67 70 Austin Kearns 2010 .256
68 70 Rafael Palmeiro 1995 .319
69 70 Bobby Kielty 2007 .220
70 70 Bobby Murcer 1976 .296
71 69 Marcus Giles 2008 .000 DNP
72 69 Ryan Hanigan 2011 .273
73 69 Oscar Gamble 1980 .340
74 69 Randy Ready 1990 .248
75 69 Gary Sheffield 1999 .319
76 69 Aubrey Huff 2007 .266
77 69 John Baker 2011 .173
78 69 Mike Scioscia 1989 .270
79 69 Chipper Jones 2002 .332
80 69 Juan Rivera 2009 .276
81 69 John Milner 1980 .269
82 69 Darrell Porter 1982 .272
83 69 Chuck Knoblauch 1999 .289
84 69 Ryan Doumit 2011 .296
85 69 Carl Yastrzemski 1970 .349
86 69 Len Dykstra 1993 .313
87 69 Billy Williams 1968 .303
88 68 Jose Vidro 2005 .261
89 68 Denny Walling 1984 .279
90 68 Bernie Williams 1999 .321
91 68 Vernon Wells 2009 .247
92 68 Magglio Ordonez 2004 .285
93 68 Ryan Garko 2011 .000 DNP
94 68 Rafael Furcal 2008 .347
95 68 Stephen Drew 2013 .282
96 68 Tim McCarver 1972 .262
97 68 Todd Helton 2004 .333
98 68 Milton Bradley 2008 .325
99 68 Gregg Jefferies 1998 .258
100 68 Orlando Hudson 2008 .278

Platoon

SORT_FIELD PLATOON AVG OBP SLG TAv
10 vs L (Multi) .163 .267 .192 .186
11 vs R (Multi) .281 .393 .428 .311
18 Split (Multi) .117 .126 .236 .125
19 LgAvg (Multi) .027 .038 .071 .034
30 vs L (2013) .192 .250 .192 .168
31 vs R (2013) .282 .405 .398 .301
38 Split (2013) .089 .155 .205 .133
39 LgAvg (2013) .026 .037 .071 .034

BP Annual Player Comments

YearComment
2014 Due to publishing agreements, the 2014 player comments and team essays are only available in the Baseball Prospectus 2014 book (available in hardcopy, e-book, and Kindle).
2013 Here’s one for you: John Jaso’s True Average in his first year as a Mariner was .336. Miguel Cabrera’s True Average in 2012 was .332. Jaso dramatically changed his swing on the trip west from Tampa, getting out of his tight, punchy crouch into an upright, hands-high power posture—think Gregor Blanco, then think Adam Dunn. The results tracked the stances, and Jaso’s power even proved Safeco-proof: his 877 OPS at home was more than 200 points better than the next best Mariner’s. Jaso has an excellent batting eye, but was aggressive on pitches in the zone in 2012, leveraging favorable counts instead of waiting for a walk. Sure enough, his production bump was far greater on the first pitch (190 points of OPS better than his career split) or when he was ahead in the count (148 points) than when he was behind (56 points). He’s a lousy bet to top Cabrera again, but PECOTA’s 2013 projection for him would have been the Mariners’ second-best hitter in 2012. Break out the M-V-P chants.
2012 There were high hopes for Jaso in 2011 coming off his breakthrough 2010 season that saw him post a slash line of .263/.372/.378 and even saw him hit out of the leadoff position more than any other hitter on the club in 2010. He had his flaws: he was a poor hitter against left-handed pitching and he was a bit rough behind the plate. The thought was that he and Kelly Shoppach could be an effective platoon. Unfortunately, those flaws were even more glaring in 2011 and his slash line dropped to .224/.298/.354 in 273 plate appearances. He hit just .161/.316/.258 against left-handed pitching in 38 plate appearances and his ability to block pitches and throw runners out remained a work in progress. His on base percentage fell 74 points from 2010 to 2011 as his strike zone expanded and his walk rate fell five percentage points while his strikeout rate went up nearly four. He and new platoon partner Miguel Olivo are so radically different that they must be stored in separate containers, for safety.
2011 Jaso ranked among the Rays' more pleasant surprises in 2010 as the 2003 12th-rounder took advantage of Kelly Shoppach's injury and Dioner Navarro's ineffectiveness to seize the bulk of the playing time at catcher. Considering that the displaced duo hit just .186/.283/.295, anything Jaso did might have looked good, but Joe Maddon was so impressed by Jaso's on-base skills that the backstop batted leadoff in a team-high 45 games and hit .272/.380/.420 from that spot. He has a history of shoulder woes, and his defense is questionable; he threw out only 24 percent of base thieves last year. He's not much against lefties (.191/.333/.277 in just 58 plate appearances) either, but he'll fit perfectly into the long half of a platoon with Shoppach, an impressive feat given where he ranked on the depth chart a year ago.
2010 A lefty-hitting, offense-oriented catcher the Rays tabbed in the 12th round in 2003, Jaso had a disappointing year in 2009, his first full season of Triple-A. While he continued to demonstrate solid on-base skills, his already-modest power took month-long vacations; he managed just one extra-base hit in May and July combined. Worse, he failed to progress defensively, throwing out just 17 percent of base thieves thanks to a shoulder weakened by a history of injuries. Older than Dioner Navarro, he's not simply a ways from establishing himself as a viable big-league catcher, he may as well be viewing the possibility from another planet with no rocket to get from here to there.
2009 One of the better offensive catching prospects around, Jaso is a solid hitter with a very patient approach and average power. The trouble is, he's not a very good catcher, especially against the running game; he threw out only 25 percent of opposing basestealers last year, and that was with everyone and their mothers running on him. If you're not willing to start him and just live with that, he has little value as a backup, where glove over bat is the general philosophy. It's hard to see him finding any traction in Tampa; he's five months older than Dioner Navarro, but he could be a decent trade chip.
2008 At this point, there is no doubt that Jaso can hit; he's exceeded a .300 batting average in each of the last four seasons. All of the questions about him concern his defense. He's a below-average catcher, and a slow recovery from rotator cuff surgery had him playing the position only part time in 2007. As strong as his bat may be, it doesn't profile well enough for first base, the only other position he can play, so this year's showing at Triple-A Durham will be key.
2007 Jaso followed up his breakout 2005 with a .309/.362/.451 line for Visalia in High-A ball. Careful, though: Everyone hits in the Cal League, which means he only managed a .246 EqA. If he doesn`t stick behind the plate--Jaso`s defense gets an `e` for effort--he doesn`t have enough bat to be an asset at first or DH.
2006 At 19, Jaso hit about as well as you would expect from a 12th-round pick, but he has blossomed since. He`s selective, and showed home run power for the first time last year. Ostensibly a catcher, he was limited to DH duties late in the season because of a shoulder injury. The next step is to play over 100 games in a season and see what shakes out.

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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2014-10-03 11:00:00 (link to chat)I'm reading a lot of comments that the Cespedes/Lester trade was a bad deal for Oakland. But I still think the Russell/Samardzija trade is the one that will haunt them. Your thoughts?
(Jim from St Paul)
A superficial (but still emotionally compelling) answer is: Lester pitched in a playoff game. There's a decent chance Samardzija never will, either because he's traded this offseason or because the A's don't quite have enough next year, sans a middle infield, a left fielder, a catcher who can be counted on defensively, a center fielder who can play even close to every day, etc. etc. etc. etc.

But more importantly, in the wake of the Cespedes/Lester trade, it became clear that Cespedes wasn't going to be in Oakland in 2015 no matter what. The question was what they could get back for him in the offseason vs. midyear 2014, and while the classic trade would have been to get prospects back for him, it's hardly unforgivable to instead take a two-month maybe-ace and add him to what was looking at the time like a real shot at a World Series trophy.

I'd hope it goes unsaid that all the bunk about how the Cespedes trade killed the A's offense is bunk. John Jaso's concussion and Brandon Moss' hip and Coco Crisp's neck and Stephen Vogt's foot, along with that unfortunate few weeks where both Jed Lowrie and Nick Punto were hurt at the same time all have a lot more to do with the A's regression in run-scoring than the mystical Cespedes and his magical protection abilities.

That said, if Jeff Samardzija pitches 2015 for the A's and pitches it as well as he did in 2014 for the A's (that 8:1 K:BB ratio is incredible) and Oakland gets back to the playoffs again despite looking for all the world like 2014 was the last gasp, then even that trade won't look quite so bad. (Jason Wojciechowski)
2014-04-16 19:00:00 (link to chat)5x5: Should I start Jason Castro or John Jaso? Also I caught my significant other drinking from the bathroom sink. What do I do?
(Lona Misa from The Projects)
Can you play match-ups? Play match-ups, but Castro is a better bet this season. I don't see the big deal with bathroom sink drinking, especially if the two of you live alone. Answer is different if you live in a dorm/greek housing/with several roommates. I have low standards. (Ben Carsley)
2013-03-06 20:00:00 (link to chat)I whiffed on catcher in my 10-team AL-only head-to-head league. Now I have to make a heroic decision between the likes of Chris Iannetta, Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Jason Castro, and John Jaso. Your thoughts?
(Jim from Chicago)
I'd go with Jaso then Salty. Not too shabby. (Paul Singman)
2012-12-20 14:00:00 (link to chat)Does the Morales trade make you think the M's want to have Montero catch every day?
(Steve from New York, NY)
Thanks for stopping by, Steve. I think that was the Mariners' intention when they acquired Montero last offseason, and while he was definitely rough around the edges in 2011, that's one possible inference from this trade. That said, they have an underrated catcher in John Jaso, who has done more than enough against RHP in his brief career to warrant a look, and they might try to trade Justin Smoak to open up first base for Morales. This is a situation to monitor in the coming weeks. (Daniel Rathman)
2012-07-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)Ive recently acquired joey votto in a ss league and been offered jj and zimmermann. what are your thoughts for jj in the second half.
(j from some yankee town)
Depends on who J.J. is. If it's Putz, I think he'll improve a little but not enough to be interesting. If it's Hardy, he also is capable of better things. If it's Josh Johnson, same thing, but with perpetual injury risk. Who else is there? J.J. Hoover. Jon Jay. Jair Jurrjens. John Jaso. Jim Johnson. I'm not getting warm and fuzzy about any of these guys. So I guess it doesn't depend on who J.J. is. Good chance of small improvement, but nothing exciting. I wouldn't trade Votto for Zimmermann and anyone with the initials J.J. (Geoff Young)
2011-12-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)Did the Rangers really screw up by not trading one of Salty, Ramirez and Teagarden when their values were all high?
(rwinter from Boston)
In the sense that they didn’t trade prospects who flopped, sure. You could say that about every team and every prospect who flopped. Did the Angels err in not trading Brandon Wood when he was a top-10 prospect? In retrospect, of course, but there was no way of knowing that.

The fact that all three of those players flopped in their own ways supports the decision to keep all of them, though, instead of treating them as depth. Catchers have a brutal attrition rate. Baseball America’s top 100 in 2000 included six catchers: Eric Munson, Ben Petrick, Matt LeCroy, Jayson Werth (Orioles), Steve Lomasney, Ryan Christianson. In 2001: Joe Lawrence, Dane Sardinha, Brandon Inge, J.R. House. In 2002: Mauer, Josh Phelps, House, John Buck, Werth (Blue Jays), Victor Martinez. In 2003: Mauer, Martinez, Jeff Mathis, Justin Huber, Buck.

In 2007, when the Rangers had to make this decision, Kevin Goldstein ranked the catchers in the minors. He named 17 players. These are the 17:

Jeff Clement
Bryan Anderson
J.R. Towles
Teagarden
Hank Conger
John Jaso
Ramirez
Nick Hundley
Tony Recker
Jesus Montero
Brett Hayes
Francisco Hernandez
Lou Palmisano
Landon Powell
Shawn Riggans
Jamie Skelton
Brian Jeroloman

Out of those 17, there are basically one and a half every day catchers, maaaaaaybe another one in Hank Conger, and a DH. We thought the Rangers had three catchers, plus Gerald Laird. In fact, they had Gerald Laird.

Also:
2007 Baseball Prospectus Annual: “When Teagarden is behind the dish, he’s one of the top defensive catchers around. If he can stay there, he’s Mickey Tettleton with defensive chops.”
2008 Baseball Prospectus Annual: “If you want to get really dreamy and optimistic, think Mickey Tettleton with Gold Glove-level skills, and you get the picture.”

This is why comps are the best/worst. (Sam Miller)
2011-11-30 13:00:00 (link to chat)Why are people touting John Jaso as a Carlos Ruiz-esque catcher and already declaring the Mariners the winner in the Lueke/Jaso trade? Lueke's good K/9 and solid BB/9 numbers to go with his decent FIP make it seem like he'll be good RP with right defense behind him. Character issues are the only concern and Rays have had their fair share of questionable people in past. Jaso is a horrible defender(shoulder surgery in the middle levels of his minor league career) and while his BABIP makes one believe he'll rebound from bad 2011, good bet that he won't return to 2010 levels either.
(jlarsen from Chicago)
The Mariners win the deal simply because they get rid of the rapey reliever. Seriously, there's never been a player I've more rooted for a career-ending injury than Lueke. As for the comparisons to assholes like Willy Aybar and Elijah Dukes, I recall that those guys were Rays properties before their major transgressions came to light, so it's a different story in terms of how they were handled by the org. I don't think they went out of their way to acquire either knowing as much as they know about Lueke.

Jaso has some offensive ability for a catcher, but I think we've pretty much seen the spectrum of his 90th and 10th percentiles. He can be a decent bat for the position, albeit with sketchy defensive ability. (Jay Jaffe)
2010-05-24 14:00:00 (link to chat)With Kelly Shoppach coming back 4-6 from now and John Jaso playing better then Navarro, could the Rays surprise everyone and option Navarro back to the Minors(he does indeed have options left and is under 5 yrs in) and use the more sensible platoon of Jaso(good vs. LHP,improved D and good OBP skills) and Shoppach(good vs. RHP, power and hbp) than Navarro and Shoppach?
(jlarsen from Chicago)
You mean this the other way 'round, of course, and not a bass-ackwards platoon of the lefty-batting Jaso starting against lefties, etc. Me, I could totally see it, as well as the Rays shopping Navarro. But methinks you're over-high on Jaso; he makes a nice lefty-batting complementary player to a right-handed regular like Shoppach. Think Joe Nolan to Rick Dempsey, not Mike LaValliere to Don Slaught. (Christina Kahrl)
2010-05-05 13:00:00 (link to chat)So...it may be slightly unlikely that John Jaso keeps hitting like the second coming of Barry Bonds. But how do you see his final line shaking out, as well as playing time at catcher for the Rays?
(Stephanie from DC)
Probably better than Kelly Shoppach and Dioner Navarro's lines. I think he can hit maybe .270/.370/.430. The OBP is sexy. I'm talking to Tommy Bennett right now, he says .280/.340/.430. Obviously, he's going to slug .430 if we both say so. (Marc Normandin)


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Advanced Catching Metrics

Year Framing Chances Extra Strikes Framing Runs Framing Runs per 7000 Blocking Chances PB/WP Saved Blocking Runs Blocking Runs per 7000 Total Receiving Runs Total Receiving Runs per 7000
2008 165 -4 -0.5 -19.8 93 -0.2 -0.0 -3.2 -0.5 -23.0
2010 6254 -118 -14.3 -16.0 3503 -6.9 -1.8 -3.6 -16.1 -19.6
2011 5161 -89 -9.9 -13.4 2782 -3.7 -1.0 -2.5 -10.9 -16.0
2012 2692 -38 -6.2 -16.1 1398 -3.8 -1.0 -5.3 -7.3 -21.4
2013 2966 -63 -8.1 -19.0 1520 -3.3 -0.8 -3.9 -8.9 -22.9
2014 3653 -68 -10.5 -20.0 2027 -2.0 -0.5 -1.8 -11.0 -21.8
total 20891 -380 -48.8 -16.3 11323 -18.3 -4.9 -3.0 -53.6 -19.4

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