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Career Summary
Years IP W L SV SO ERA WARP
10 1387.3 89 86 0 792 4.37 5.2
Birth Date6-16-1981
Height6' 3"
Weight215 lbs
BatsL
ThrowsL
WARP Summary

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YEAR TEAM AGE G GS IP IP-SP IP-RP W L SV BS QS BQS PA H R ER HR TB BB UBB HBP SO ERA FIP FRA VORP WARP
2005 ANA 24 2 2 9.3 9.3 0.0 0 0 0 0 1 0 41 10 8 8 3 21 4 4 0 4 7.71 7.66 7.87 -2.1 -0.2
2006 ANA 25 13 13 70.7 70.7 0.0 7 3 0 0 8 0 302 71 42 37 6 102 29 28 1 51 4.71 4.12 5.54 6.8 0.7
2007 ANA 26 18 18 107.3 107.3 0.0 8 5 0 0 8 1 473 129 56 53 11 193 34 33 1 69 4.44 4.34 4.65 12.9 1.3
2008 ANA 27 31 31 198.0 198.0 0.0 17 7 0 0 22 1 807 187 82 75 21 284 53 51 6 103 3.41 4.39 5.03 13.1 1.7
2009 ANA 28 31 31 186.0 186.0 0.0 16 7 0 0 13 2 805 202 102 95 29 329 64 62 6 101 4.60 5.21 5.72 7.2 0.7
2010 ANA 29 20 20 120.7 120.7 0.0 6 10 0 0 9 1 522 135 70 62 14 213 45 44 1 64 4.62 4.64 4.87 6.0 1.2
2010 ARI 29 13 13 82.7 82.7 0.0 3 7 0 0 6 1 358 97 50 39 11 151 19 19 4 50 4.25 4.46 5.10 -0.5 -0.1
2011 ARI 30 33 33 212.0 212.0 0.0 12 13 0 0 20 2 874 210 94 87 29 346 67 63 3 108 3.69 4.74 5.39 -10.7 -1.0
2012 ARI 31 21 21 130.0 130.0 0.0 6 10 0 0 14 1 561 146 68 61 17 232 31 30 2 89 4.22 4.23 4.35 10.9 1.1
2012 BAL 31 7 7 44.7 44.7 0.0 3 3 0 0 5 0 184 49 20 18 4 70 8 7 0 23 3.63 3.72 4.15 4.6 0.5
2013 SEA 32 32 32 183.0 183.0 0.0 11 16 0 0 13 0 820 232 117 107 25 378 61 56 4 107 5.26 4.75 5.06 0.2 0.3
2014 BAL 33 6 0 3.3 0.0 3.3 0 0 0 0 0 0 17 3 5 5 1 8 4 3 1 1 13.50 10.96 15.17 -2.7 -0.3
2014 TEX 33 8 8 39.7 39.7 0.0 0 5 0 0 2 0 198 62 32 27 8 99 20 20 1 22 6.13 6.26 6.46 -4.8 -0.5
Career2352291387.31384.03.38986001219596215337466741792426439420307924.374.665.1541.05.2

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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP FRA FRA+ TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP PPF PVORP PWARP VORP WARP
2002 CDR A 5 5 28.7 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .209 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2002 ORM Rk 8 8 32.3 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .348 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2004 RCU A+ 19 19 105.7 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .291 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2004 ARK AA 8 8 39.0 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .357 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2005 ANA MLB 2 2 9.3 7.87 21 .311 .264 .328 .410 .256 .233 93 -2.1 -0.2 -2.1 -0.2
2005 ARK AA 18 18 105.7 5.33 84 .247 .268 .337 .412 .259 .270 93 11.9 1.2 11.9 1.2
2005 SLC AAA 9 9 55.0 6.09 56 .271 .295 .364 .478 .285 .269 74 0.4 0.0 0.4 0.0
2006 ANA MLB 13 13 70.7 5.54 91 .251 .281 .345 .454 .264 .302 103 6.8 0.7 6.8 0.7
2006 SLC AAA 21 20 135.2 5.45 95 .217 .274 .347 .423 .270 .263 114 10.0 1.0 10.0 1.0
2007 ANA MLB 18 18 107.3 4.65 103 .277 .265 .331 .417 .263 .330 99 12.9 1.3 12.9 1.3
2007 SLC AAA 14 14 86.3 5.14 107 .240 .278 .350 .435 .265 .313 113 13.6 1.3 13.6 1.3
2008 ANA MLB 31 31 198.0 5.03 97 .238 .265 .330 .413 .259 .266 103 12.9 1.3 13.1 1.7
2009 ANA MLB 31 31 186.0 5.72 85 .265 .264 .329 .418 .258 .286 103 7.2 0.7 7.2 0.7
2010 ANA MLB 20 20 120.7 4.87 91 .285 .259 .321 .403 .256 .304 100 6.2 0.6 6.0 1.2
2010 ARI MLB 13 13 82.7 5.10 77 .294 .257 .317 .398 .266 .314 94 -1.1 -0.1 -0.5 -0.1
2011 ARI MLB 33 33 212.0 5.39 68 .267 .249 .309 .381 .255 .271 98 -12.5 -1.3 -10.7 -1.0
2012 ARI MLB 21 21 130.0 4.35 99 .270 .247 .303 .386 .250 .306 100 10.2 1.1 10.9 1.1
2012 BAL MLB 7 7 44.7 4.15 108 .247 .245 .307 .402 .256 .302 102 4.6 0.5 4.6 0.5
2012 DIA Rk 1 1 4.3 3.87 120 .277 .264 .365 .388 .295 .300 91 1.3 0.1 1.3 0.1
2013 SEA MLB 32 32 183.0 5.06 76 .321 .255 .317 .404 .267 .332 95 -0.0 -0.0 0.2 0.3
2014 BAL MLB 6 0 3.3 15.17 -152 .354 .256 .312 .410 .262 .200 104 -2.7 -0.3 -2.7 -0.3
2014 TEX MLB 8 8 39.7 6.46 42 .368 .260 .318 .406 .270 .367 98 -4.8 -0.5 -4.8 -0.5
2014 FRI AA 2 2 9.3 6.77 57 .308 .256 .331 .395 .262 .276 108 -1.1 -0.1 -1.1 -0.1
2014 NOR AAA 10 0 12.0 3.69 124 .238 .272 .336 .410 .255 .297 108 2.2 0.2 2.2 0.2
2014 OMA AAA 4 4 18.7 7.45 39 .361 .263 .332 .409 .267 .329 93 -2.9 -0.3 -2.9 -0.3
2014 ROU AAA 2 2 12.0 3.96 117 .282 .241 .313 .381 .247 .368 97 2.6 0.3 2.6 0.3

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR GB% BABIP H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 WHIP ERA VORP WARP
2002 ORM Rk 2 1 0 8 8 32.3 40 11 21 1 0% .348 11.1 3.1 0.3 5.9 1.58 3.62 0.0 0.0
2002 CDR A 3 1 0 5 5 28.7 16 9 27 2 0% .209 5.0 2.8 0.6 8.5 0.87 1.88 0.0 0.0
2004 ARK AA 4 3 0 8 8 39.0 51 14 25 5 0% .357 11.8 3.2 1.2 5.8 1.67 5.77 0.0 0.0
2004 RCU A+ 9 7 0 19 19 105.7 106 23 76 13 0% .291 9.0 2.0 1.1 6.5 1.22 3.41 0.0 0.0
2005 ARK AA 7 4 0 18 18 105.7 107 32 80 9 50% .270 9.1 2.7 0.8 6.8 1.32 3.49 11.9 1.2
2005 SLC AAA 3 3 0 9 9 55.0 65 21 29 3 63% .269 10.6 3.4 0.5 4.7 1.56 4.58 0.4 0.0
2005 ANA MLB 0 0 0 2 2 9.3 10 4 4 3 42% .233 9.6 3.9 2.9 3.9 1.50 7.71 -2.1 -0.2
2006 SLC AAA 10 4 0 21 20 135.2 117 38 97 12 54% .263 7.8 2.5 0.8 6.5 1.15 2.66 10.0 1.0
2006 ANA MLB 7 3 0 13 13 70.7 71 29 51 6 48% .302 9.0 3.7 0.8 6.5 1.42 4.71 6.8 0.7
2007 ANA MLB 8 5 0 18 18 107.3 129 34 69 11 46% .330 10.8 2.9 0.9 5.8 1.52 4.44 12.9 1.3
2007 SLC AAA 4 7 0 14 14 86.3 89 20 84 10 45% .313 9.3 2.1 1.0 8.8 1.26 5.11 13.6 1.3
2008 ANA MLB 17 7 0 31 31 198.0 187 53 103 21 48% .266 8.5 2.4 1.0 4.7 1.21 3.41 13.1 1.7
2009 ANA MLB 16 7 0 31 31 186.0 202 64 101 29 48% .286 9.8 3.1 1.4 4.9 1.43 4.60 7.2 0.7
2010 ANA MLB 6 10 0 20 20 120.7 135 45 64 14 44% .304 10.1 3.4 1.0 4.8 1.49 4.62 6.0 1.2
2010 ARI MLB 3 7 0 13 13 82.7 97 19 50 11 46% .314 10.6 2.1 1.2 5.4 1.40 4.25 -0.5 -0.1
2011 ARI MLB 12 13 0 33 33 212.0 210 67 108 29 46% .271 8.9 2.8 1.2 4.6 1.31 3.69 -10.7 -1.0
2012 DIA Rk 0 1 0 1 1 4.3 3 5 7 0 70% .300 6.2 10.4 0.0 14.5 1.85 6.23 1.3 0.1
2012 BAL MLB 3 3 0 7 7 44.7 49 8 23 4 42% .302 9.9 1.6 0.8 4.6 1.28 3.63 4.6 0.5
2012 ARI MLB 6 10 0 21 21 130.0 146 31 89 17 45% .306 10.1 2.1 1.2 6.2 1.36 4.22 10.9 1.1
2013 SEA MLB 11 16 0 32 32 183.0 232 61 107 25 54% .332 11.4 3.0 1.2 5.3 1.60 5.26 0.2 0.3
2014 NOR AAA 0 1 0 10 0 12.0 11 6 8 0 51% .297 8.2 4.5 0.0 6.0 1.42 1.50 2.2 0.2
2014 OMA AAA 1 2 0 4 4 18.7 27 5 6 4 57% .329 13.0 2.4 1.9 2.9 1.71 6.75 -2.9 -0.3
2014 ROU AAA 0 1 0 2 2 12.0 15 5 8 1 64% .368 11.2 3.8 0.8 6.0 1.67 2.25 2.6 0.3
2014 FRI AA 0 1 0 2 2 9.3 11 2 6 3 69% .276 10.6 1.9 2.9 5.8 1.39 5.79 -1.1 -0.1
2014 BAL MLB 0 0 0 6 0 3.3 3 4 1 1 45% .200 8.1 10.8 2.7 2.7 2.10 13.50 -2.7 -0.3
2014 TEX MLB 0 5 0 8 8 39.7 62 20 22 8 48% .367 14.1 4.5 1.8 5.0 2.07 6.13 -4.8 -0.5

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT
2008 2860 0.5185 0.4537 0.8527 0.6305 0.2629 0.9187 0.6823 0.1465
2009 2994 0.5047 0.4442 0.8586 0.6148 0.2704 0.9107 0.7382 0.1391
2010 3308 0.4846 0.4279 0.8643 0.6032 0.2628 0.9369 0.7076 0.1357
2011 3202 0.4941 0.4491 0.8609 0.6308 0.2716 0.9198 0.7273 0.1370
2012 2701 0.4739 0.4589 0.8538 0.6391 0.2956 0.9193 0.7262 0.1446
2013 3096 0.4680 0.4260 0.8514 0.5990 0.2738 0.9343 0.6918 0.1456
2014 843 0.4567 0.4247 0.8771 0.6286 0.2533 0.9256 0.7759 0.1229
Career190040.4890.44190.85810.61930.27150.92370.7150.1404

Injury History

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2014-04-05 2014-05-28 15-DL 53 48 Left Ankle Contusion Batted Ball - -
2012-08-15 2012-08-15 DTD 0 0 Left Thumb Contusion Fielding - -
2012-06-17 2012-07-14 15-DL 27 21 Left Shoulder Strain - -
2012-03-12 2012-03-12 Camp 0 0 Left Lower Leg Contusion Batted Ball Shin - -
2011-09-28 2011-09-28 DTD 0 0 Left Hand Soreness - -
2011-04-16 2011-04-16 DTD 0 0 Foot Contusion Batted Ball -
2011-03-06 2011-03-19 Camp 13 0 General Medical Illness -
2010-08-19 2010-08-19 DTD 0 0 General Medical Illness -
2009-08-08 2009-08-26 15-DL 18 17 Left Shoulder Stiffness -
2009-02-25 2009-03-04 Camp 7 0 Left Shoulder Soreness -
2008-09-19 2008-09-28 DTD 9 9 General Medical Illness Kidney Stones -
2008-08-17 2008-08-17 DTD 0 0 Left Shoulder Stiffness Player Collision -
2008-05-22 2008-05-22 DTD 0 0 General Medical Respiratory Flu -
2007-03-12 2007-03-21 Camp 9 0 Left Forearm Stiffness -
2006-08-16 2006-08-16 DTD 0 0 Left Shoulder Fatigue -
2003-04-09 2003-09-01 Minors 145 0 Left Shoulder Cartilage Injury Frayed Labrum - -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2014 TEX $500,000
2013 SEA $6,500,000
2012 ARI $6,000,000
2011 ARI $5,500,000
2010 ANA $3,700,000
2009 ANA $475,000
2008 ANA $425,000
2007 ANA $380,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
7 yrPrevious$22,980,000
2011Current$500,000
8 yrPvs + Cur$23,480,000
8 yrTotal$23,480,000

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
7 y 13 dGreg Genske1 year (2014)

Details
  • 1 year/$0.5M (2014). Signed by Texas as a free agent 3/5/14 ($0.25M guaranteed). Salary of $1.5M in majors. Roster bonus: $0.5M for 90 days on active roster. Performance bonuses: $0.15M each for 130, 140, 150, 160, 170, 180 innings. $0.25M each for 190, 200, 210 innings. Award bonuses: $25,000 each for LCS MVP, Gold Glove. $50,000 each for All-Star selection, WS MVP, Comeback Player of the Year. $0.1M for Cy Young. DFA by Texas 7/1/14. Released by Texas 7/4/14. Signed by Kansas City as a free agent 7/8/14 (minor-league contract). Released by Kansas City 7/29/14. Signed by Baltimore as a free agent 8/5/14 (minor-league contract). Contract selected by Baltimore 9/1/14.
  • 1 year/$6.5M (2013), plus 2014 mutual option. Signed by Seattle as a free agent 2/11/13. May earn additional $1M in bonuses. Seattle declined 2014 option 11/1/13.
  • 1 year/$6M (2012). Re-signed by Arizona as a free agent 1/17/12. Acquired by Baltimore in trade from Arizona 8/26/12.
  • 1 year/$5.5M (2011). Re-signed by Arizona 1/18/11 (avoided arbitration). Non-tendered by Arizona 12/12/11.
  • 1 year/$3.7M (2010). Re-signed by LA Angels 1/29/10 (avoided arbitration). Performance bonus: $25,000 each for 180, 200 IP. Acquired by Arizona in trade from LA Angels 7/25/10 (Dan Haren deal).
  • 1 year/$0.475M (2009). Re-signed by LA Angels 2/26/09.
  • 1 year/$0.425M (2008). Re-signed by LA Angels 3/2/08.
  • 1 year/$0.38M (2007). Renewed by LA Angels 3/07.
  • 1 year (2006). Re-signed by LA Angels 2/06.
  • 1 year (2005). Contract purchased by Anaheim 11/04.
  • Drafted by Anaheim 2002 (1-12) (Virginia Tech). $1.825M signing bonus.

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BP Chats

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2013-08-08 17:30:00 (link to chat)I'm going for it in our AL only keeper league. Is it time to jettison Straily for help right now? If so how would you order Pettitte, Danks, and JSaunders? Also, is MSaunders a big donwgrade from Colby Rasmus? Thanks very much!
(conjoinedtwins from Orillia ON)
Hi to you both.

Flags fly forever. If Dan Straily can improve your team this year, do it.

Of those three pitchers, you have them in the right order. Andy Pettitte's ERA is high, but his peripheral numbers show a better pitcher lurking in there. John Danks has been OK, but I still have some concerns about how he'll hold up and he is a weaker play against stronger teams. Even in AL-only, Joe Saunders is an at-home play only. He's poison to your chances of winning if you start him on the road.

I wouldn't exactly call Michael Saunders a big downgrade from Colby Rasmus, but he is a downgrade. As Bret Sayre talked about on a recent Towers of Power fantasy podcast, Rasmus' batting average is fueled by a strong BABIP, and his BA isn't even THAT good. You're losing BA/runs/RBI with Saunders, but some of that is luck-dependent. I prefer Rasmus, but if you can improve your team elsewhere, Saunders is an acceptable replacement and isn't a zero. Good luck. (Mike Gianella)
2013-04-18 14:00:00 (link to chat)Thoughts on the Astros manager benching JD Martinez for swining at a high 80s fastball the other day?
(grandslam28 from chicago)
Bo Porter knows his players better than I do, grandslam28, so I think it's fair to side with him on the decision. With Joe Saunders having cruised through the first three innings, Porter had reason to be upset with Martinez for making the second out of the inning on the second pitch. That said, if the benching was heavily influenced by the result, then I'd have some concerns with it. (Daniel Rathman)
2012-08-17 13:00:00 (link to chat)1. Dan Haren WTF happen? 2. Will the Angels pick up his $15.5 million option for 2013 and take the risk that he's just having a really really bad year and will revert back to prior form in 2013... or do they pay out $3 mil, move on, and let some other team figure out whether he's even a viable back-end rotation guy in the future?
(WestCoastMets from The Devil's Waiting Room)
Yeah, so Dan Haren. He's still got an edge on Joe Saunders since the trade in 2010, but it's close; two-tenths of a run of ERA or so. He had four starts in the previous three years in which he walked as many batters as he struck out. He has five of those this year. This isn't really like 2010, when he was getting BABIP'd to death. Very hittable.

Haren had been losing velocity steadily for a few years, and this might just be the year it got to be too much. It's a chat, so anything I say here has been researched for about 14 seconds, so give me a break if this is wrong, but it looks to me like he allowed one home run last year on a four-seamer up in the zone. And this year he has allowed 11. He throws a lot of four-seamers up in the zone, and when the velocity on them drops from 90 mph to 88.5 mph, it's hard to survive. He did OK in the past with less velocity because he developed the cutter on the fly, but I'm not sure what he can develop next. And even the cutter has gotten a little more slidery than he'd like at times this year.

I think the Angels pick up the option. What other choice do they have? Sign a pitcher for four years as a free agent? Almost impossible that that wouldn't be even riskier. As it is, they'll presumably let Ervin walk, may not have a chance to re-sign Greinke, and be looking at two starters plus Garrett Richards, Jerome Williams and ___________. So, yeah, option picked up, and hope it's just his back. Since he acknowledged the back soreness, his ERA is 5.5, but on the other hand who knows. (Sam Miller)
2012-03-26 13:00:00 (link to chat)When do we see Bauer hit the bigs?
(Jquinton82 from NY)
Second favorite Jeff Mathis story is when I accidentally submitted that three times.

I hate to just assume this for every top prospect, but I assume he's up in late June like the rest of 'em. And Wade Miley gets the starts when Joe Saunders or Josh Collmenter goes down early. (Sam Miller)
2010-07-29 16:30:00 (link to chat)Would a package from the Yankees built around Joba and Ian Nova plus two prospects been better than what the Angels gave up?
(Jquinton82 from NY)
I would certainly think so. Joba could become a lot of different things, a bad reliever, or a great starter. His stock has fallen, but it's still gotta be a lot higher than Joe Saunders' who is due to make over $6MM in arbitration next year. (Matt Swartz)


BP Roundtables

DateRoundtable NameComment
2009-06-09 14:30:002009 Draft CoverageOne of the great things about being at BP is having great help just a few keyboard clicks away. I asked Rany, who did his fantastic series on draft history, if he remembers a draft that was better 11-20 than 1-10. Rany jumped into action for me, and found just one in 15 years: 2002.

Top Ten: B.J. Upton, Zack Greinke, Prince Fielder, Jeff Francis.
11-20: Hermida, Joe Saunders, Scott Kazmir, Nick Swisher, Cole Hamels, James Loney, Denard Span.

The best example is 1994, where Garciaparra, Konerko and Varitek went 12-14. Needless to say, the top 10 that boasted Paul Wilson, Ben Grieve, Todd Walker and Jaret Wright wasn't as good. (Bryan Smith)
 

PITCHf/x Pitcher Profile

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Joe Saunders has thrown 20,928 pitches that have been tracked by the PITCHf/x system between 2007 and 2014, including pitches thrown in the MLB Regular Season, the MLB Postseason and Spring Training. In 2014, he has relied primarily on his Sinker (92mph), also mixing in a Fourseam Fastball (91mph), Slider (83mph), Change (82mph) and Curve (76mph).