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2014 Projections (Preseason PECOTA - seasonal age 30)
PA AVG HR R RBI SB TAv WARP
270 .225 4 31 22 16 .231 0.1
Birth Date3-9-1984
Height6' 1"
Weight190 lbs
Age30 years, 7 months, 15 days
BatsB
ThrowsR
2010
-0.32011
0.72012
-0.62013
-0.12014
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WARP Summary

Standard

YEAR TEAM AGE G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR TB BB SO HBP SF SH RBI SB CS AVG OBP SLG TAv VORP FRAA WARP
2008 TBA 24 7 19 19 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 7 0 0 0 0 0 1 .158 .158 .158 .118 -2.8 0.2 -0.3
2011 TBA 27 70 181 160 20 31 7 2 4 54 14 53 0 1 6 17 6 7 .194 .257 .338 .222 -3.6 0.5 -0.3
2012 TBA 28 123 331 297 32 72 10 2 6 104 24 84 3 2 5 33 18 6 .242 .304 .350 .253 8.2 -1.8 0.7
2013 ATL 29 32 102 92 8 24 5 2 0 33 8 18 0 1 1 10 8 2 .261 .317 .359 .249 -0.4 0.5 0.0
2013 KCA 29 79 173 162 19 29 2 1 2 39 8 49 0 0 3 9 14 0 .179 .218 .241 .183 -5.2 -0.7 -0.6
2014 CLE 30 7 20 19 1 2 2 0 0 4 0 7 0 0 1 0 0 0 .105 .105 .211 .120 -2.1 0.2 -0.2
Career3188267498016126712237542183416694616.215.269.316.225-6.0-1.1-0.8

Advanced

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg G PA TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP BPF BRAA repLVL POS_ADJ FRAA BRR BVORP BWARP VORP WARP
2002 PRI Rk 42 172 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .375 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2003 CSC A 54 189 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .269 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2004 CSC A 126 574 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .303 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2005 VIS A+ 56 256 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .314 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2005 MNT AA 63 283 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .340 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2006 MNT AA 122 542 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .343 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2007 DUR AAA 129 524 .229 .262 .333 .404 .262 .264 97 -17.5 15.2 -1.1 2.2 0.6 -3.5 -0.1 -3.5 -0.1
2008 TBA MLB 7 19 .118 .256 .322 .387 .248 .250 106 -2.9 0.5 0 0.2 0.0 -2.8 -0.3 -2.8 -0.3
2008 DUR AAA 107 427 .258 .260 .329 .398 .261 .330 97 -0.9 12.7 0.2 -0.2 3.4 14.3 1.4 14.3 1.4
2009 DUR AAA 63 260 .255 .260 .329 .383 .246 .291 111 -1.6 8.5 1 -1.2 0.3 9.2 0.8 9.2 0.8
2009 RAY Rk 5 18 .349 .225 .293 .288 .227 .333 81 1.8 0.6 -0.1 -0.6 -0.3 1.9 0.1 1.9 0.1
2010 DUR AAA 109 481 .277 .262 .333 .407 .256 .372 102 10.3 16.0 3 -1.0 4.1 34.1 3.2 34.1 3.2
2011 TBA MLB 70 181 .222 .260 .330 .407 .265 .260 100 -6.8 4.9 1.7 0.5 -1.7 -3.6 -0.3 -3.6 -0.3
2011 DUR AAA 2 9 .142 .277 .335 .401 .255 .333 87 -1.3 0.3 0 -0.0 0.0 -1.0 -0.1 -1.0 -0.1
2011 GIG Wnt 22 98 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .277 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2012 TBA MLB 123 331 .253 .252 .314 .404 .259 .316 94 -2.4 9.1 3.3 -1.8 -0.1 8.2 0.7 8.2 0.7
2013 ATL MLB 32 102 .249 .256 .323 .389 .264 .320 99 -1.1 2.7 -0.1 0.5 -0.8 -0.4 0.0 -0.4 0.0
2013 KCA MLB 79 173 .183 .254 .317 .404 .266 .243 99 -12.7 4.5 0 -0.7 3.0 -5.2 -0.6 -5.2 -0.6
2014 CLE MLB 7 20 .120 .242 .305 .371 .254 .167 98 -2.6 0.5 -0.1 0.2 0.0 -2.1 -0.2 -2.1 -0.2
2014 COH AAA 87 365 .247 .263 .333 .399 .254 .299 105 -5.3 10.9 -2.5 5.2 1.1 4.0 0.9 3.9 0.9

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG ISO TAv VORP FRAA WARP
2002 PRI Rk 172 21 40 10 1 1 13 18 48 14 2 .263 .343 .362 .099 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
2003 CSC A 189 22 32 4 0 0 15 38 32 8 5 .212 .370 .238 .026 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
2004 CSC A 574 92 132 22 7 6 41 54 91 43 15 .262 .334 .370 .107 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
2005 MNT AA 283 31 69 9 6 3 21 13 68 15 5 .261 .305 .375 .114 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
2005 VIS A+ 256 42 62 10 3 8 33 24 49 28 5 .273 .348 .449 .176 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
2006 MNT AA 542 69 139 21 10 15 50 39 122 20 18 .281 .334 .455 .174 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
2007 DUR AAA 524 56 96 17 6 11 45 43 139 16 6 .207 .281 .341 .134 .229 -3.5 2.2 -0.1
2008 DUR AAA 427 49 101 26 5 9 50 33 104 15 3 .261 .319 .424 .163 .258 14.3 -0.2 1.4
2008 TBA MLB 19 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 7 0 1 .158 .158 .158 .000 .118 -2.8 0.2 -0.3
2009 DUR AAA 260 31 61 9 1 11 35 17 56 7 2 .262 .313 .451 .189 .255 9.2 -1.2 0.8
2009 RAY Rk 18 2 5 2 0 0 2 2 1 0 0 .312 .389 .438 .125 .349 1.9 -0.6 0.1
2010 DUR AAA 481 72 136 24 5 11 56 37 92 30 6 .319 .367 .475 .157 .277 34.1 -1.0 3.2
2011 TBA MLB 181 20 31 7 2 4 17 14 53 6 7 .194 .257 .338 .144 .222 -3.6 0.5 -0.3
2011 DUR AAA 9 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 .222 .222 .222 .000 .142 -1.0 -0.0 -0.1
2011 GIG Wnt 98 8 20 3 1 2 7 10 17 6 0 .238 .333 .369 .131 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
2012 TBA MLB 331 32 72 10 2 6 33 24 84 18 6 .242 .304 .350 .108 .253 8.2 -1.8 0.7
2013 KCA MLB 173 19 29 2 1 2 9 8 49 14 0 .179 .218 .241 .062 .183 -5.2 -0.7 -0.6
2013 ATL MLB 102 8 24 5 2 0 10 8 18 8 2 .261 .317 .359 .098 .249 -0.4 0.5 0.0
2014 COH AAA 365 43 74 14 6 5 37 43 82 10 1 .236 .326 .366 .131 .247 3.9 5.2 0.9
2014 CLE MLB 20 1 2 2 0 0 0 0 7 0 0 .105 .105 .211 .105 .120 -2.1 0.2 -0.2

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT
2008 65 0.5692 0.5538 0.6944 0.6216 0.4643 0.6522 0.7692 0.3056
2011 696 0.4971 0.4294 0.7617 0.6301 0.2286 0.8486 0.5250 0.2349
2012 1234 0.4992 0.4931 0.7628 0.6640 0.3204 0.8484 0.5859 0.2356
2013 986 0.5041 0.4904 0.7660 0.6620 0.3149 0.8541 0.5779 0.2340
2014 81 0.4938 0.4815 0.7436 0.6250 0.3415 0.8800 0.5000 0.2564
Career30620.50160.47870.76160.65370.30140.8470.57110.237

Injury History

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2014-07-13 2014-07-25 Minors 12 0 - Not Disclosed -
2013-02-28 2013-03-05 Camp 5 0 Left Knee Contusion - -
2011-05-24 2011-06-11 15-DL 18 15 Left Knee Sprain -
2011-02-27 2011-03-08 Camp 9 0 Left Thigh Strain Quadriceps -
2010-06-13 2010-07-05 Minors 22 0 Thigh Strain Quadriceps -
2009-08-14 2009-08-27 Minors 13 0 Thigh Strain Quadriceps -
2009-05-06 2009-07-05 Minors 60 0 Thumb Fracture Thumb -
2005-07-08 2005-07-16 Minors 8 0 Not Disclosed -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2014 CLE $930,000
2013 KCA $520,500
2012 TBA $486,100
2011 TBA $414,900
2008 TBA $390,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
4 yrPrevious$1,811,500
2011Current$930,000
5 yrPvs + Cur$2,741,500
5 yrTotal$2,741,500

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
3 y 28 d1 year/$0.93M (2014)

Details
  • 1 year (2014). Signed by Cleveland as a free agent 1/27/14 (minor-league contract). Salary of $0.93M in majors. Contract selected by Cleveland 3/22/14. DFA by Cleveland 5/3/14. Sent outright to Triple-A 5/8/14. Refused assignment by Cleveland 10/6/14.
  • 1 year/$0.5205M (2013). Acquired by Kansas City in trade 2/12/13 after being DFA by Tampa Bay 2/5/13 (player to be named in 12/9/12 Shields/Myers trade). Signed by Kansas City 2/20/13. DFA by Kansas City 8/15/13. Released 8/19/13. Claimed by Atlanta off release waivers 8/21/13.
  • 1 year/$0.4861M (2012). Re-signed by Tampa Bay 3/3/12.
  • 1 year/$0.4149M (2011). Re-signed by Tampa Bay 2/27/11.
  • 1 year (2010). Re-signed by Tampa Bay 3/3/10. Sent outright to Triple-A by Tampa Bay 4/4/10.
  • 1 year/$0.4012M (2009). Re-signed by Tampa Bay 2/25/09.
  • 1 year/$0.39M (2008). Re-signed by Tampa Bay 2/08.
  • 1 year (2007). Contract purchased by Tampa Bay 11/06. Re-signed by Tampa Bay 2/07.
  • Signed by Tampa Bay 2002 as amateur free agent (Thatcher HS, Ariz.).

2014 Preseason Forecast

Last Update: 3/11/2014 05:35 ET

PCT PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG TAv VORP FRAA WARP
90o 513 66 122 21 4 10 48 42 125 35 10 .267 .326 .395 .270 22.2 SS -2, 2B 0 2.3
80o 491 61 111 19 4 9 44 39 123 32 9 .252 .310 .372 .256 14.6 SS -2, 2B 0 1.4
70o 476 57 103 18 3 8 41 36 121 30 9 .241 .298 .356 .246 9.6 SS -2, 2B 0 0.9
60o 462 54 97 17 3 8 39 34 120 28 8 .232 .287 .343 .237 5.5 SS -2, 2B 0 0.5
50o 450 52 91 16 3 7 36 32 118 26 8 .224 .277 .330 .229 1.8 SS -2, 2B 0 0.1
40o 438 49 86 15 3 7 34 30 116 25 7 .216 .268 .317 .221 -1.6 SS -2, 2B 0 -0.3
30o 424 46 80 14 3 6 32 28 114 23 7 .207 .257 .304 .213 -5.1 SS -1, 2B 0 -0.7
20o 409 43 73 13 2 6 30 25 112 21 6 .196 .245 .289 .203 -8.8 SS -1, 2B 0 -1.1
10o 387 39 64 11 2 5 26 22 109 19 5 .182 .229 .267 .189 -13.6 SS -1, 2B 0 -1.6
Weighted Mean455539316373732119278.228.282.335.2333.4SS -2, 2B 00.2

Diagnostics

Breakout Rate Improve Rate Collapse Rate Attrition Rate MLB %
2% 46% 10% 19% 96%

Long-Term Forecast (Beyond the 2014 Projections)

Playing time estimates are based on performance, not Depth Charts.
Year Age PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB AVG OBP SLG TAv WARP VORP BRR POS_ADJ REP_ADJ RAA FRAA
201531250244782321206614.212.277.309.2230.2-0.80.10.83.5-5.12.2
2016322502448101321206413.213.276.310.2240.30.1-0.10.71.1-1.62.2
201733250244781321176413.213.269.305.2180.2-0.4-0.20.61.2-2.12.2
201834250254991421196612.213.276.310.2230.2-0.1-0.50.60.4-0.62.2
20203625024478142119689.210.271.307.2200.0-1.9-1.20.41.9-3.02.2
20213725024478132119698.210.270.300.215-1.0-11.0-1.40.312.6-22.62.2
20223825023478132018687.205.262.286.209-1.1-12.5-1.60.310.8-22.02.2
20233925023458131919697.199.262.281.208-0.5-6.7-1.80.24.7-9.92.2

Upside By Year

2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 PEAK 5
49.739.454.924.430.519.8199

Comparable Players (Similarity Index 82)

Rank Score Name Year TAv Trend
1 90 Ray Durham 2002 .289
2 90 Charlie Neal 1961 .238
3 89 Robby Thompson 1992 .280
4 88 Ryne Sandberg 1990 .317
5 87 Jeff Kent 1998 .304
6 87 Damion Easley 2000 .257
7 86 Junior Spivey 2005 .258
8 86 Phil Garner 1979 .276
9 85 Davey Lopes 1975 .277
10 85 Willie Bloomquist 2008 .266
11 84 Akinori Iwamura 2009 .263
12 84 Gil McDougald 1958 .258
13 84 Jim Fregosi 1972 .273
14 84 Davey Johnson 1973 .319
15 84 Lee Lacy 1978 .318
16 84 Ed Charles 1963 .268
17 84 Keith Miller 1993 .175
18 83 Paul Molitor 1987 .338
19 83 Don Money 1977 .284
20 83 Tony Phillips 1989 .271
21 83 Tim Teufel 1989 .261
22 83 Felix Mantilla 1965 .276
23 83 Vance Law 1987 .265
24 83 Bobby Morgan 1956 .217
25 83 Ronny Cedeno 2013 .228
26 83 Leo Gomez 1996 .266
27 82 Chuck Hinton 1964 .278
28 82 Gene Baker 1955 .267
29 82 Aaron Boone 2003 .271
30 82 Randy Jackson 1956 .272
31 82 Todd Walker 2003 .257
32 82 Dickie Thon 1988 .279
33 82 Gene Freese 1964 .253
34 82 Jay Bell 1996 .242
35 81 Jeff Blauser 1996 .281
36 81 Tommy Harper 1971 .277
37 81 Hector Lopez 1960 .285
38 81 Max Alvis 1968 .257
39 81 Mike Shannon 1970 .209
40 81 Jeff DaVanon 2004 .267
41 81 Joel Youngblood 1982 .232
42 81 Julio Franco 1989 .299
43 81 Bip Roberts 1994 .271
44 80 Jeffrey Hammonds 2001 .258
45 80 Juan Samuel 1991 .269
46 80 Al Bumbry 1977 .292
47 80 Rich Aurilia 2002 .251
48 80 Alvin Dark 1952 .299
49 80 Steve Henderson 1983 .289
50 80 Jackie Brandt 1964 .252
51 80 Dwight Smith 1994 .272
52 80 Ken McMullen 1972 .282
53 80 Brandon Inge 2007 .239
54 80 Tim Wallach 1988 .250
55 80 Ray Jablonski 1957 .285
56 80 Frank Thomas 1959 .229
57 80 Jim Morrison 1983 .287
58 80 Ollie Brown 1974 .235
59 80 Al Martin 1998 .226
60 80 Gary Gaetti 1989 .256
61 80 Lloyd Moseby 1990 .260
62 80 Ed Spiezio 1972 .217
63 80 Tony Bernazard 1987 .255
64 80 Alex Gonzalez 2007 .263
65 80 Mitch Webster 1989 .260
66 80 Derek Bell 1999 .224
67 80 Jim Landis 1964 .226
68 80 Jose Offerman 1999 .284
69 80 Felipe Lopez 2010 .254
70 79 Sean Berry 1996 .276
71 79 Marty Cordova 2000 .228
72 79 Jerry Mumphrey 1983 .288
73 79 Jacob Brumfield 1995 .258
74 79 Phil Bradley 1989 .289
75 79 Leon Roberts 1981 .291
76 79 Delino DeShields 1999 .246
77 79 Ruppert Jones 1985 .279
78 79 Scott Brosius 1997 .202
79 79 Bake McBride 1979 .261
80 79 Tito Francona 1964 .293
81 79 Tony Gonzalez 1967 .326
82 79 Hubie Brooks 1987 .237
83 79 Ernest Riles 1991 .232
84 79 Andy Carey 1962 .249
85 79 Ray Boone 1954 .286
86 79 Irv Noren 1955 .251
87 79 Miguel Tejada 2004 .300
88 79 Lenn Sakata 1984 .178
89 79 Vinny Castilla 1998 .291
90 79 Todd Zeile 1996 .267
91 79 Lee Walls 1963 .250
92 79 Bob Skinner 1962 .316
93 79 Thad Bosley 1987 .235
94 79 Mike Devereaux 1993 .245
95 79 Randy Winn 2004 .263
96 79 Bob Bailey 1973 .301
97 79 Felix Jose 1995 .112
98 79 Michael Tucker 2001 .257
99 79 Vada Pinson 1969 .264
100 79 Chris Sabo 1992 .259

Platoon

SORT_FIELD PLATOON AVG OBP SLG TAv
10 vs L (Multi) .203 .282 .309 .226
11 vs R (Multi) .225 .267 .311 .223
18 Split (Multi) .021 -.015 .002 -.003
19 LgAvg (Multi) -.007 .000 .004 .002
30 vs L (2013) .224 .286 .293 .218
31 vs R (2013) .204 .245 .281 .202
38 Split (2013) -.020 -.041 -.012 -.016
39 LgAvg (2013) -.008 -.001 .005 .003

BP Annual Player Comments

YearComment
2014 Due to publishing agreements, the 2014 player comments and team essays are only available in the Baseball Prospectus 2014 book (available in hardcopy, e-book, and Kindle).
2013 Last year's player card for Johnson concluded: "It is improbable that the Rays carry two offensively challenged shortstops again in 2012." Guess what? The Rays carried the same two offensively challenged shortstops in 2012—the other was Sean Rodriguez—only this time Johnson wasn't quite so challenged. His .254 TAv was actually 12th in the majors among shortstops with 300 PAs, although his negative FRAA seems to have driven his WARP below Rodriguez's. Johnson's bat kept him and his hard-nosed utility on the roster (Joe Maddon seems quite fond of him) while Rodriguez and Brignac were demoted to Triple-A. Still, it is improbable that the Rays carry two offensively challenged shortstops in—wait a minute . . .
2012 After collecting over 1,700 plate appearances in Triple-A, Johnson finally played a full season in the major leagues that did not involve a being optioned or outrighted, mainly because he was out of options. His defensive versatility was helpful at times, but his bat was nearly as awful as Brignac's and he was just 6-for-13 in stolen base attempts. The undrafted free agent has been in the organization since 2002 but his skill set is fungible and easily replaced. It is improbable that the Rays carry two offensively-challenged shortstops again in 2012.
2011 Elliot Johnson, whose spring 2008 brawl-triggering slide against the Yankees marked a symbolic turning point for his franchise, is organizational depth, not a prospect. Winning International League MVP honors at Durham was enough to restore him to the 40-man roster in November, preventing him from becoming a free agent.
2010 Best known for a hard slide which touched off a spring 2008 brawl with the Yankees, Elliot Johnson has shown improvement at Triple-A in each of the past two seasons, but he's merely organizational depth in a very deep organization.
2009 Speedster Elliot Johnson bounced back a bit in his second Triple-A season, but not enough to bounce back onto the radar in an organization this deep.
2008 Athletic second baseman Elliot Johnson had a big year at Double-A in 2006, but crashed and burned at Triple-A Durham last season
2007 Johnson was added to the 40-man roster after being named Player of the Year at Double-A Montgomery last year. While his OBP looks like an improvement over what he managed in his first exposure to Double-A pitching in 2005, it`s amazing what 20 extra points of batting average will do for your image. He did draw a few extra walks, but not enough to say that he`s successfully climbed Mt. Plate Discipline. Johnson`s real gains in 2006 were in the power department. His prospects for leveraging that into plate discipline are still up in the air. He has improved on defense as well, and if Jorge Cantu can`t rediscover his 2005 stroke, Johnson will be right behind him.
2006 When sleeper prospects go bad: an undrafted free agent, Johnson has base-stealing speed and a good glove. Prior to 2005, he also had a good idea of his limitations as a hitter and tried to work the strike zone to get on base. Perhaps having his power boosted by the California League made him forget himself, as his plate judgment evaporated upon promotion to Double-A. Johnson will have to humble himself before the strike zone to get back on the golden stair.

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DateQuestionAnswer
2014-04-29 13:00:00 (link to chat)A team of Elliot Johnson's versus a team of Coconut Crabs. Winner takes over the commonwealth...who you got?
(Chilly Butler from Guam)
The crabs. No sane human being is beating the crabs. (R.J. Anderson)
2013-05-02 13:00:00 (link to chat)Here's a scenario I've seen before: Chris Getz has a .250 OBP, Elliot Johnson .240. Johnny Giavotella is slashing .326/.396/.489. What gives? And if the Royals don't want him, can my team have him?
(Dan from NYC)
I somewhat share your frustration, but I've cooled on Giavotella over the last year. He's had a legit shot to grab the Royals' 2B job in spring training each of the last two years, and he hasn't been able to do it with very iffy performances in the spring. He's now in his third year of raking at Triple-A, but he didn't really perform in 50-plus games in MLB last season. I do think he deserves more of a shot given how weak KC is at the position, but I'm less confident on him being a passable everyday 2B now. With that said, it is a weird situation. You'd think he would've gotten more of a chance by now. (Jason Cole)
2012-12-28 13:00:00 (link to chat)Please, please, please tell me that the Rays will remove Reid Brignac, Elliot Johnson and possibly Sean Rodriguez for better Utility IFers.
(jlarsen from chicago)
Is Geoff Blum still available? And on that note, I must take my leave. (Geoff Young)
2012-07-11 12:00:00 (link to chat)Lost Pedroia, is Punto the best pickup or should I be targeting others?
(tylerk from Nebrask)
I'd rather target Elliot Johnson than Punto if he were available. (Jason Collette)
2012-05-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)While we're on the topic, Alex Gonzalez (healthy) or Elliot Johnson?
(Matt from Madison)
Gonzalez. Heck, Alex S. Gonzalez. (R.J. Anderson)
2011-08-16 17:00:00 (link to chat)What kind of career do you see Matt Joyce having? Do you think at his peak he can put up similar numbers (incl. OBP) as JD Drew?
(DS from LA)
He will never be the defender Drew is/was, but the rest of that comp works for me. Joyce has been given small pockets of chances against lefties but the fact he has to sit against lefties at times for a well-below replacement level guy like Elliot Johnson makes no sense. The Rays are not contending right now so I do not see why the club does not put Joyce out there as much as possible and let him sink or swim against lefties because it is still better than what an org soldier like Johnson would do. An outside theory floated by my colleague at DRaysBay, Heath Baywood, is moving Joyce to first base if the team cannot find a FA solution this off-season or cannot trade for someone. (Jason Collette)
2008-03-11 12:00:00 (link to chat)Do you have a problem with Elliot Johnson's collision with Cervelli? Was it a dirty play or just baseball?
(Tommy from (OPS,FL))
Just baseball. I can say that these games don't mean anything, and they don't, but if you're Elliot Johnson, you're trying to impress someone. And it's hard to turn it on and off.

As with the winter meetings, spring training's ratio of newsgatherers to newsmakers is out of control, so everything with any kind of potential gets blown into a thing. (Joe Sheehan)


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