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Portrait of John Maine

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2014 Projections (Preseason PECOTA - seasonal age 33)
IP ERA WHIP SO W L SV WARP
35.7 4.52 1.42 28 2 3 0 -0.1
Birth Date5-8-1981
Height6' 4"
Weight220 lbs
Age33 years, 5 months, 16 days
BatsR
ThrowsR
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2011
2012
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-0.12014
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WARP Summary

Standard

YEAR TEAM AGE G GS IP IP-SP IP-RP W L SV BS QS BQS PA H R ER HR TB BB UBB HBP SO ERA FIP FRA VORP WARP
2004 BAL 23 1 1 3.7 3.7 0.0 0 1 0 0 0 0 19 7 4 4 1 11 3 3 0 1 9.82 8.61 9.10 -0.9 -0.1
2005 BAL 24 10 8 40.0 33.0 7.0 2 3 0 0 1 0 184 39 30 28 8 69 24 24 1 24 6.30 6.33 6.89 -2.5 -0.3
2006 NYN 25 16 15 90.0 89.0 1.0 6 5 0 0 9 0 365 69 40 36 15 130 33 32 2 71 3.60 4.87 5.71 -5.6 -0.5
2007 NYN 26 32 32 191.0 191.0 0.0 15 10 0 0 17 0 810 168 90 83 23 281 75 72 5 180 3.91 4.12 4.48 26.2 2.4
2008 NYN 27 25 25 140.0 140.0 0.0 10 8 0 0 11 1 608 122 70 65 16 194 67 65 4 122 4.18 4.37 5.06 5.3 0.6
2009 NYN 28 15 15 81.3 81.3 0.0 7 6 0 0 7 0 349 67 42 40 8 107 38 36 4 55 4.43 4.53 4.75 4.4 0.3
2010 NYN 29 9 9 39.7 39.7 0.0 1 3 0 0 3 0 190 47 29 27 8 80 25 24 2 39 6.13 5.80 5.47 -4.2 -0.4
2013 MIA 32 4 0 7.3 0.0 7.3 0 0 0 0 0 0 40 15 10 10 2 22 5 4 0 7 12.27 6.70 8.23 -2.6 -0.3
Career112105593.0577.715.3413600481256553431529381894270260184994.454.675.1520.01.7

Advanced

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP FRA FRA+ TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP PPF PVORP PWARP VORP WARP
2002 DEL A 6 5 33.0 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .253 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2002 ABE A- 4 2 10.3 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .333 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2003 DEL A 14 14 76.3 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .273 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2003 FRD A+ 12 12 70.3 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .249 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2004 BAL MLB 1 1 3.7 9.10 28 .373 .254 .323 .424 .251 .429 105 -0.9 -0.1 -0.9 -0.1
2004 BOW AA 5 5 28.0 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .227 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2004 OTT AAA 22 22 119.7 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .316 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2005 BAL MLB 10 8 40.0 6.89 60 .285 .276 .340 .444 .270 .244 104 -2.5 -0.3 -2.5 -0.3
2005 OTT AAA 23 23 128.3 4.50 111 .240 .271 .343 .432 .255 .303 102 19.0 1.7 19.0 1.7
2006 NYN MLB 16 15 90.0 5.71 67 .238 .264 .329 .432 .264 .221 88 -4.1 -0.4 -5.6 -0.5
2006 SLU A+ 1 1 5.2 1.68 167 .168 .255 .327 .381 .251 .273 108 2.3 0.2 2.3 0.2
2006 NOR AAA 10 10 56.1 3.62 105 .252 .259 .325 .393 .259 .312 88 4.3 0.4 3.5 0.4
2007 NYN MLB 32 32 191.0 4.48 104 .247 .266 .331 .424 .259 .275 97 24.9 2.4 26.2 2.4
2008 NYN MLB 25 25 140.0 5.06 86 .258 .262 .327 .410 .259 .266 96 3.8 0.4 5.3 0.6
2009 NYN MLB 15 15 81.3 4.75 86 .256 .255 .322 .394 .256 .242 92 4.8 0.5 4.4 0.3
2009 SLU A+ 2 1 8.0 2.64 141 .197 .245 .317 .349 .251 .211 103 1.0 0.1 1.0 0.1
2010 NYN MLB 9 9 39.7 5.47 62 .335 .257 .322 .404 .269 .336 90 -2.9 -0.3 -4.2 -0.4
2010 BIN AA 1 1 4.0 3.50 110 .094 .260 .353 .411 .278 .125 86 0.6 0.1 0.6 0.1
2010 BUF AAA 1 1 4.3 5.18 99 .149 .258 .330 .414 .241 .091 108 0.3 0.0 0.3 0.0
2011 CSP AAA 11 11 46.0 7.63 89 .282 .291 .361 .464 .266 .342 131 6.0 0.6 5.9 0.7
2012 SWB AAA 16 15 79.7 5.31 85 .257 .262 .328 .394 .255 .287 99 -0.1 -0.0 -0.1 -0.0
2013 MIA MLB 4 0 7.3 8.23 -17 .407 .245 .304 .388 .251 .500 94 -2.7 -0.3 -2.6 -0.3

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR GB% BABIP H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 WHIP ERA VORP WARP
2002 DEL A 1 1 0 6 5 33.0 21 4 39 0 0% .253 5.7 1.1 0.0 10.6 0.76 1.36 0.0 0.0
2002 ABE A- 1 1 0 4 2 10.3 6 3 21 0 0% .333 5.2 2.6 0.0 18.3 0.87 1.75 0.0 0.0
2003 FRD A+ 6 1 0 12 12 70.3 48 20 77 5 0% .249 6.1 2.6 0.6 9.9 0.97 3.07 0.0 0.0
2003 DEL A 7 3 0 14 14 76.3 43 18 108 1 0% .273 5.1 2.1 0.1 12.7 0.80 1.53 0.0 0.0
2004 OTT AAA 5 7 0 22 22 119.7 123 52 105 12 0% .316 9.2 3.9 0.9 7.9 1.46 3.91 0.0 0.0
2004 BOW AA 4 0 0 5 5 28.0 16 7 34 1 0% .227 5.1 2.2 0.3 10.9 0.82 2.25 0.0 0.0
2004 BAL MLB 0 1 0 1 1 3.7 7 3 1 1 33% .429 17.2 7.4 2.5 2.5 2.73 9.82 -0.9 -0.1
2005 BAL MLB 2 3 0 10 8 40.0 39 24 24 8 44% .244 8.8 5.4 1.8 5.4 1.57 6.30 -2.5 -0.3
2005 OTT AAA 6 11 0 23 23 128.3 128 42 111 13 41% .303 9.0 2.9 0.9 7.8 1.33 4.56 19.0 1.7
2006 NOR AAA 3 5 0 10 10 56.1 55 20 48 2 52% .312 8.8 3.2 0.3 7.7 1.34 3.53 3.5 0.4
2006 SLU A+ 1 0 0 1 1 5.2 3 2 7 0 64% .273 5.2 3.5 0.0 12.1 0.96 0.00 2.3 0.2
2006 NYN MLB 6 5 0 16 15 90.0 69 33 71 15 41% .221 6.9 3.3 1.5 7.1 1.13 3.60 -5.6 -0.5
2007 NYN MLB 15 10 0 32 32 191.0 168 75 180 23 39% .275 7.9 3.5 1.1 8.5 1.27 3.91 26.2 2.4
2008 NYN MLB 10 8 0 25 25 140.0 122 67 122 16 42% .266 7.8 4.3 1.0 7.8 1.35 4.18 5.3 0.6
2009 NYN MLB 7 6 0 15 15 81.3 67 38 55 8 37% .242 7.4 4.2 0.9 6.1 1.29 4.43 4.4 0.3
2009 SLU A+ 1 0 0 2 1 8.0 4 4 7 0 58% .211 4.5 4.5 0.0 7.9 1.00 1.12 1.0 0.1
2010 NYN MLB 1 3 0 9 9 39.7 47 25 39 8 31% .336 10.7 5.7 1.8 8.8 1.82 6.13 -4.2 -0.4
2010 BIN AA 0 0 0 1 1 4.0 1 2 5 0 38% .125 2.2 4.5 0.0 11.2 0.75 0.00 0.6 0.1
2010 BUF AAA 0 0 0 1 1 4.3 1 3 4 0 45% .091 2.1 6.3 0.0 8.4 0.93 0.00 0.3 0.0
2011 CSP AAA 1 3 0 11 11 46.0 58 37 35 6 49% .342 11.3 7.2 1.2 6.8 2.07 7.43 5.9 0.7
2012 SWB AAA 8 5 0 16 15 79.7 76 31 66 7 49% .287 8.6 3.5 0.8 7.5 1.34 4.97 -0.1 -0.0
2013 MIA MLB 0 0 0 4 0 7.3 15 5 7 2 46% .500 18.4 6.1 2.5 8.6 2.73 12.27 -2.6 -0.3

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT
2008 2501 0.5022 0.4686 0.8003 0.6481 0.2876 0.8477 0.6927 0.1997
2009 1370 0.5153 0.4613 0.8070 0.6615 0.2485 0.8672 0.6364 0.1915
2010 773 0.4968 0.4295 0.7831 0.6016 0.2596 0.8268 0.6832 0.2108
2013 142 0.5704 0.4437 0.8571 0.6543 0.1639 0.8868 0.7000 0.1429
Career47860.50710.45950.80110.64460.26820.85110.67530.1975

Injury History

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2011-05-06 2011-05-29 Minors 23 22 Right Shoulder Inflammation -
2010-05-21 2010-10-04 60-DL 136 120 Right Shoulder Surgery Debridement 2010-07-23
2010-04-23 2010-04-23 DTD 0 0 Left Elbow Soreness -
2010-04-02 2010-04-02 Camp 0 0 General Medical Respiratory Flu -
2009-06-07 2009-09-13 15-DL 98 88 Right Shoulder Fatigue and Weakness -
2009-05-31 2009-05-31 DTD 0 0 General Medical Gastrointestinal GI -
2008-09-24 2008-09-29 DTD 5 5 Right Shoulder Surgery Bone Spurs and Bennett Lesion 2008-09-30
2008-08-24 2008-09-24 15-DL 31 27 Right Shoulder Bone Spur - -
2008-08-19 2008-08-19 DTD 0 0 Right Shoulder Soreness -
2008-07-29 2008-08-13 15-DL 15 13 Right Shoulder Strain Rotator Cuff -
2008-07-05 2008-07-05 DTD 0 0 Left Forearm Cramp -
2008-06-30 2008-06-30 DTD 0 0 Right Shoulder Fatigue Dead Arm -
2008-04-26 2008-04-26 DTD 0 0 Right Shoulder Stiffness -
2007-10-01 2007-10-01 DTD 0 0 Left Hip Soreness Most of Season -
2006-05-03 2006-06-12 15-DL 40 36 Right Fingers Inflammation Middle Finger -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2013 MIA $625,000
2012 NYN $
2011 NYN $
2010 NYN $3,300,000
2009 NYN $2,600,000
2008 NYN $450,000
2007 NYN $391,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
5 yrPrevious$7,366,000
5 yrTotal$7,366,000

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
5 y 35 dRex Gary1 year/$0.625M (2013)

Details
  • 1 year (2013). Signed by Miami as a free agent 12/24/12 (minor-league contract). Salary of $0.625M in majors. Contract purchased by Miami 3/31/13. DFA by Miami 4/19/20.
  • 1 year (2012). Signed by Boston as a free agent 1/27/12 (minor-league contract). Released by Boston 5/10/12. Signed by NY Yankees as a free agent 5/25/12 (minor-league contract).
  • 1 year (2011). Signed by Colorado as a free agent (minor-league contract). May earn up to $3M on Major League roster. May opt out of contract if not on 25-man roster 6/1/11.
  • 1 year/$3.3M (2010). Re-signed 1/15/10 (avoided arbitration). Performance bonuses: $50,000 for 20 starts. $25,000 each for 23, 26, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33 starts. Non-tendered 12/2/10.
  • 1 year/$2.6M (2009). Re-signed by NY Mets 1/30/09 (avoided arbitration, $3M-$2.2M). Performance bonus: $25,000 for 200 innings pitched.
  • 1 year/$0.45M (2008). Renewed by NY Mets 3/4/08.
  • 1 year/$0.391M (2007). Re-signed by NY Mets 3/07.
  • 1 year (2006). Acquired by NY Mets in trade from Baltimore 1/06. Signed 3/06.
  • 1 year (2005). Re-signed by Baltimore 2/05.
  • 1 year (2004). Contract purchased by Baltimore 7/04.
  • Drafted by Baltimore 2002 (6-166) (UNC-Charlotte). $0.135M signing bonus.

2014 Preseason Forecast

Last Update: 3/11/2014 05:35 ET

PCT W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR BABIP WHIP ERA FRA VORP WARP
90o 3 3.6 0 11 11 53.2 42 20 41 5 .261 1.16 3.34 3.63 7.0 0.7
80o 2.5 3.4 0 10 10 47.0 39 19 36 4 .276 1.24 3.73 4.06 3.6 0.4
70o 2.2 3.2 0 9 9 42.7 38 18 33 4 .286 1.31 4.02 4.37 1.7 0.2
60o 2 3 0 8 8 39.1 36 17 30 4 .295 1.36 4.27 4.64 0.3 0.0
50o 1.8 2.9 0 8 8 35.8 34 17 28 4 .304 1.42 4.51 4.9 -0.8 -0.1
40o 1.5 2.7 0 7 7 32.6 32 16 25 4 .312 1.48 4.75 5.16 -1.7 -0.2
30o 1.3 2.5 0 6 6 29.3 30 15 23 3 .321 1.54 5.01 5.45 -2.4 -0.2
20o 1.1 2.3 0 5 5 25.4 28 13 20 3 .332 1.61 5.32 5.78 -3.0 -0.3
10o 0.8 1.9 0 4 4 20.3 24 11 16 3 .347 1.72 5.76 6.27 -3.4 -0.3
Weighted Mean1.72.808835.13316274.3021.414.484.86-0.6-0.1

Diagnostics

Breakout Rate Improve Rate Collapse Rate Attrition Rate MLB %
7% 20% 11% 14% 35%

Long-Term Forecast (Beyond the 2014 Projections)

Playing time estimates are based on performance, not Depth Charts.
Year Age W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR GB% BABIP WHIP ERA FRA H/9 BB/9 K/9 HR/9 WARP
2015347902828173170791381942.3131.444.604.998.94.17.21.0-1.0
20163581003030184177801371942.3041.404.404.788.73.96.70.9-0.6
2017367902727164159721271842.3061.414.464.858.74.07.01.0-0.6
2018377802424144138631141542.3041.394.364.748.63.97.10.9-0.4
2019386802424142137631081542.3031.414.424.818.74.06.80.9-0.5
2020396702222131127581001442.3041.414.414.808.74.06.91.0-0.4
202140670222213012657961442.3021.404.394.778.73.96.61.0-0.4
202241670212112612154921342.3011.394.364.748.73.96.60.9-0.3
202342560202011511249831242.3001.404.384.768.73.86.50.9-0.3

Upside By Year

2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 PEAK 5
1.92.7out of baseball18.60.314.2

Comparable Players (Similarity Index 75)

Rank Score Name Year Run Average Trend
1 88 Tim Redding 2011 0.00 DNP
2 88 Brandon Duckworth 2009 0.00 DNP
3 87 R.A. Dickey 2008 5.21
4 86 Wade Miller 2010 0.00 DNP
5 84 Eric DuBose 2009 0.00 DNP
6 83 Chris Jakubauskas 2012 0.00 DNP
7 82 Victor Zambrano 2009 0.00 DNP
8 82 Tim Corcoran 2011 0.00 DNP
9 81 Geremi Gonzalez 2008 0.00 DNP
10 80 Pete Munro 2008 0.00 DNP
11 78 Nelson Figueroa 2007 0.00 DNP
12 78 Josh Towers 2010 0.00 DNP
13 78 Eric Stults 2013 4.24
14 78 Raul Valdes 2011 3.00
15 78 Walter Silva 2010 0.00 DNP
16 77 Ryan Vogelsong 2011 3.11
17 77 Stephen Randolph 2007 12.82
18 77 Jon Leicester 2012 0.00 DNP
19 77 Tomo Ohka 2009 5.96
20 77 Jorge Sosa 2011 0.00 DNP
21 77 Britt Reames 2007 0.00 DNP
22 77 Kyle Snyder 2011 0.00 DNP
23 76 Dave Bush 2013 15.00
24 76 Kip Wells 2010 0.00 DNP
25 76 Tommy Phelps 2007 0.00 DNP
26 76 Claudio Vargas 2011 0.00 DNP
27 76 Chien-Ming Wang 2013 8.00
28 76 Casey Fossum 2011 0.00 DNP
29 75 Brian Lawrence 2009 0.00 DNP
30 75 Josh Fogg 2010 0.00 DNP
31 75 Giancarlo Alvarado 2011 0.00 DNP
32 75 Les Walrond 2010 0.00 DNP
33 75 Luis Tiant 1974 3.06
34 75 Dave Stewart 1990 2.83
35 75 Jose Deleon 1994 3.76
36 75 Jeff Harris 2008 0.00 DNP
37 75 Bob Feller 1952 5.78
38 75 Milt Wilcox 1983 4.31
39 75 Mike Boddicker 1991 4.43
40 74 Chris Bootcheck 2012 0.00 DNP
41 74 Juan Guzman 2000 43.20
42 74 Will Glen 2011 0.00 DNP
43 74 Jamey Wright 2008 6.08
44 74 Kevin Appier 2001 3.88
45 74 Randy Wolf 2010 4.47
46 74 Sonny Siebert 1970 3.96
47 74 Adam Eaton 2011 0.00 DNP
48 74 Early Wynn 1953 4.33
49 74 Dave Burba 2000 4.66
50 74 Mark Langston 1994 5.05
51 74 Jack Harshman 1961 0.00 DNP
52 74 Jack McDowell 1999 8.05
53 73 Darryl Kile 2002 3.83
54 73 Bruce Kison 1983 4.19
55 73 Jim Clancy 1989 6.12
56 73 Rick Sutcliffe 1989 3.85
57 73 Chris Short 1971 4.42
58 73 Randy Keisler 2009 0.00 DNP
59 73 Bobby Witt 1997 5.08
60 73 Bob Welch 1990 3.40
61 73 Chad Durbin 2011 5.93
62 73 Mike Scott 1988 3.05
63 73 Ted Lilly 2009 3.36
64 73 Rich Hill 2013 6.98
65 73 Tim Wakefield 2000 5.99
66 73 Gary Bell 1970 0.00 DNP
67 73 Scott Elarton 2009 0.00 DNP
68 73 Victor Santos 2010 0.00 DNP
69 73 Steve Carlton 1978 3.31
70 73 Andy Messersmith 1979 4.91
71 73 Chris George 2013 0.00 DNP
72 73 Charlie Leibrandt 1990 3.99
73 73 Gary Knotts 2010 0.00 DNP
74 73 Mark Leiter 1996 5.62
75 73 Steve Renko 1978 4.59
76 73 Mike Smithson 1988 6.04
77 72 Gary Peters 1970 4.63
78 72 Rodrigo Lopez 2009 7.50
79 72 Esteban Loaiza 2005 3.82
80 72 Dwight Gooden 1998 3.96
81 72 Juan Berenguer 1988 3.96
82 72 Jim Bibby 1978 4.37
83 72 Woodie Fryman 1973 5.57
84 72 Denny Neagle 2002 5.53
85 72 Mickey Mahler 1986 4.36
86 72 Pascual Perez 1990 1.93
87 72 Bruce Chen 2010 4.36
88 72 Rudy May 1978 4.56
89 72 Marty McLeary 2008 0.00 DNP
90 72 Cory Lidle 2005 5.12
91 72 Mike Moore 1993 5.69
92 72 Dan Reichert 2010 0.00 DNP
93 72 Matt Palmer 2012 9.00
94 72 Dave Dravecky 1989 3.46
95 72 Kris Benson 2008 0.00 DNP
96 72 Ramon Martinez 2001 8.62
97 72 Jack Morris 1988 4.40
98 72 Tim Belcher 1995 5.02
99 72 Eric Show 1989 4.99
100 72 Brian Cooper 2008 0.00 DNP

Platoon

SORT_FIELD PLATOON AVG OBP SLG TAv
10 vs L (Multi) .244 .364 .361 .263
11 vs R (Multi) .362 .423 .583 .348
18 Split (Multi) -.118 -.060 -.222 -.086
19 LgAvg (Multi) .010 .024 .026 .019
30 vs L (2013) .364 .500 .364 .311
31 vs R (2013) .478 .520 .783 .445
38 Split (2013) -.115 -.020 -.419 -.133
39 LgAvg (2013) .010 .022 .028 .019

BP Annual Player Comments

YearComment
2014 Due to publishing agreements, the 2014 player comments and team essays are only available in the Baseball Prospectus 2014 book (available in hardcopy, e-book, and Kindle).
2013 John Maine showed signs of being a quality starter in 2007, but he has undergone two shoulder surgeries since then and last pitched in the bigs in 2010.
2011 Maine's season was largely lost to injury. He made just nine starts before being removed from a game after one pitch on May 20. While Maine claimed that he was healthy enough to stay in, pitching coach Dan Warthen has gone on record as saying that the righty has not always been truthful about his health. His shoulder went under the knife two months later, ending his season, but he should be available by the start of spring training. He won't be with the Mets, who non-tendered him to avoid paying a few million dollars for a pitcher who has never thrown 200 innings. As a fly-ball pitcher, Maine won't fare any better for having left Citi Field.
2010 Maine's strikeout rate dipped in 2009 as he was bothered by shoulder soreness during the first half of the season. The injury initially led to his next start getting pushed back a day, but like most Mets injuries in 2009, it turned into a seemingly endless nightmare. First his was put on the 15-day DL; rehab outings led to more pain, and there was a final diagnosis of a pinched nerve. There was at least some light at the end of the tunnel; he made it back by the end of the season and looked fairly sharp. He should settle back into his role as a third or fourth starter in 2010.
2009 For the second straight year, Maine wore down in-season. In 2007 it was a troublesome left hip, while 2008 produced a painful bone spur in his right shoulder. The injury affected Maine's control and durability, and resulted in Maine's first-ever DL trip at the end of July, and then sank his season completely three starts after his return. After pitching through pain during rehab with an eye towards helping out the bullpen down the stretch, the Mets activated him in the final week, but Manuel did not use him. Maine promptly underwent arthroscopic surgery to remove a lesion from the back of his shoulder socket after the season; the Mets badly need him to come back ready for a full season.
2008 Maine was the Mets best starter for most of the year. Then crunch time came, and he crumpled like a cheap suit. It wasn't the pressure that got to Maine, it was the innings. Maine threw just 152 innings in 2006 with an injury timeout in the middle. In 2005 he went boom after about 160 frames. Before that, his season high was 148. Last year, Maine took every turn in order for the first four months, got to 132 1/3 innings, and ran out of gas. Worse, the tank was being drained with an SUV's thirst because Maine's left hip troubled him from spring training, worsening as the year went on. Prior to his near no-hit gem on the penultimate day of the season, which was likely all adrenalin, Maine posted a 7.06 ERA over ten straight starts beginning on August 4. It's enough to make one wonder if he's capable of doing what he did for the season's first four months (12-5, 2.92 ERA) over a full season. If he can, he's a front-of-the-rotation pitcher.
2007 State O` Maine salvaged the Kris & Anna Benson deal for the Mets, just barely. Maine didn`t make the Mets` rotation out of spring training, but was called up to replace the injured Bannister. Maine`s first few starts were rough, but after an injury timeout for an inflamed middle finger (no gags, please), he was a consistent part of the rotation. He also pitched well in two of three postseasons starts, though Randolph kept him on as short a leash as he did throughout the season. Indeed, Randolph showed little confidence in Maine at times, and, until every other member of the starting rotation ate the salmon mousse, he planned to put him in the bullpen for the postseason. Maine was especially tough on righties, though what they did hit went for distance. The key to his success was limiting hitters to a .225 average on balls in play, the lowest against any pitcher in baseball with 70 or more innings pitched. Lady Luck is certain to be less kind this year.
2006 Maine is similar to Lopez, in the sense of being an extremely location-dependent pitcher. He doesn`t have the gas to challenge everybody who comes up, and in his brief calls to the majors he`s tried to cut it too fine. When you nibble and miss, you have to come in and take your lumps. He was far more overpowering in the low minors, and if he can adapt in the same way that Josh Towers has, he`ll be useful at the back end of a big league rotation.
2005 Last season was the first time that Maine had any problems in pro ball. The Orioles sent him to Triple-A after just five (admittedly dominant) starts in Double-A, and for the first two months he struggled with his control. He was back to his old self for the last two months and could be considered for a rotation spot sometime in 2005, depending on how he pitches at Ottawa. He throws four pitches, none of which is individually outstanding, but Maine does a nice job of mixing them up and using the entire strike zone. That's assuming the Orioles aren't soured on that sort after their experiences with Josh Towers and John Stephens.

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DateQuestionAnswer
2013-11-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)Who has a more realistic chance at being a top end number two starter in the big leagues between Noah Syndergaard and Zack Wheeler? Noah has a bigger, stronger body, while zack is more of a lean John Maine type body he never could remain healthy)
(MetsFaithful5 from Upstate NY)
I'm partial to Wheeler here. I think his stuff is a little more electric and will ultimately play a little bit higher than Syndergaard's. I expect both to be excellent MLB starters, though. (Mark Anderson)
2010-03-04 13:00:00 (link to chat)Deathklok? Really? Put high on fires first album on and smile large! Also, if Lemmy= God does Matt Pike= Jesus? What do you expect from Niese and John Maine this year in terms of counting stats?
(JKiersky from Memphis)
Oh High on Fire. So loud, so fast. Dethklok is good for a laugh, c'mon. Murmaider! Or, more correctly, MurmaiderMurmaiderMurmaiderMurmaiderMurmaider...

Matt Pike is pretty good, but let's not say things we can't take back. Sleep is either a good Black Sabbath/Kyuss ripoff or awful, depending on the song.

John Maine should be a solid middle-guy if he's healthy. I don't think he has the stuff to dominate the NL, at least not for long stretches of time. (Marc Normandin)
2009-07-01 14:00:00 (link to chat)Seems to me that under almost any injury-recovery circumstance that occurs, the Mets are better off with hold-and-pray rather than trying to deal for one or two starters to try to salvage the season. I suppose if 4 of their 6 key DL residents (Beltran, Reyes, Maine, Perez?) return right after the ASB and are effective they might wish they had reinforcements, but more likely a trade is an expensive fool's errand. Yes?
(mglick0718 from Oakland)
I still think they're better off tying to find a starting pitcher who might help for the stretch run, because I don't think they can count on Livan Hernandez or John Maine, let alone Oliver Perez; that sounds like an October rotation that gets beat. So they can hold-and-pray, sure, but I'd rather they tried to do the most they might with their opportunity. (Christina Kahrl)
2009-06-05 15:30:00 (link to chat)Hello Eric. Who do you like better for the rest of the year Carlos Zambrano or John Maine. Thanks.
(sbryk7 from Brooklyn, NY)
I've never really been high on John Maine, though I can certainly see why others have been. Over the last three years he has seen rather dramatic declines in both his strikeout and walk rates. Zambrano, on the other hand, has consistently shown that he can sustain BABIPs below .300, strand rates in the 75% range, and ERAs that best his FIPs. Additionally, his strikeout rate is at its highest since 2006. As long as he stays healthy (a caveat you could throw out there for every player) I would take him down the stretch. (Eric Seidman)
2009-04-06 13:00:00 (link to chat)Who's Kawakami's best comp? What will we see out of him this season? Thanks!
(Tony from Brooklyn, NY)
I'm really looking forward to seeing him pitch this week--I never have. I think the comps are command/flyball types who can be homer-prone. John Maine. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-02-10 14:00:00 (link to chat)Will we look back on 2009 as a lost opportunity for the Mets? Speaking specifically about not picking up another corner OF and apparently thinking that signing Tim Redding and Freddy Garcia's corpse is improving the rotation.
(Jason from NY)
It would complete the trilogy of lost opportunities, wouldn't it? Another one would pretty much make the Mets something like the new Red Sox in terms of historic fold-ups and inflicted agony in a major metropolitan area, no? I'm not busted up over Redding or Garcia--like Jay Jaffe pointed out earlier in his column today, that's not bad for a fifth starter selection--I'm more concerned that Oliver Perez and John Maine aren't consistent enough to flesh out the front four. Add in the faith in Church, the overvaluing of Snyder, going high on Luis Castillo... there's plenty to regret, but Omar's taste in fifth starters wouldn't be one of them. (Christina Kahrl)
2009-01-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)Please give me your opinion/projection on the health and performance for John Maine and Mike Pelfrey in '09.
(tddewan from Torrance, CA)
More worried about Pelfrey due to the workload increase, but the Mets watched him so closely that we're going to learn about the inevitability of the Verducci Effect with him. I like both on performance and value. (Will Carroll)
2008-12-15 13:00:00 (link to chat)Any indications out there on John Maine's health and what the Mets might get from him this year?
(Kerri from Las Kewgas, NY)
He had the spur in his shoulder removed and assuming that's the only problem -- and there's no reason to think otherwise -- he should be healthy coming into spring training. I like Maine for next year. (Will Carroll)
2008-12-15 13:00:00 (link to chat)John Maine...100 innings...are you taking the over or the under?
(Matt from Whippleville, NY)
Way over. (Will Carroll)
2008-09-15 14:00:00 (link to chat)Bobby Parnell or Eddie Kunz: Who was the better shot to be an internal closer option for the Mets next year? Are there any reasonable internal options? Would signing an extra starter and trying John Maine there make more sense?
(Meddler from Brooklyn, NY)
I think if either of those guys is closing for you, you have problems. (Kevin Goldstein)
2008-08-01 14:00:00 (link to chat)Any idea why the Mets weren't able to get any of the players they were looking at?
(TLivingston from Sonoma, CA)
I don't think the Mets were looking very hard, for better or worse. They seem convinced that Fernando Tatis is for real, that they'll get Ryan Church back at some point, that the rotation will magically hold together despite John Maine's cuff strain, Mike Pelfrey's innings limit, Pedro Martinez's assorted ailments, Oliver Perez's volatility and all that.

I'm not sure I want to bet against all of that by sitting on my hands, but as a team that can afford to take on salary, they have some mobility during the waiver trading period. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-03-25 14:00:00 (link to chat)I don't put much stock in spring stats, but John Maine has looked dominant this spring. Is this something the Mets should be excited about?
(chuckstein17 from Long Beach, NY)
Well, it's something to feel good about, certainly. If Maine and Oliver Perez prove to be solid contributors behind Johan Santana, Pedro becomes gravy to some extent. (Christina Kahrl)
2008-03-14 13:00:00 (link to chat) Where does John Maine go from here?
(tddewan from Torrance, CA)
Judging by the Mets' injuries, it won't be Disneyland... I really like Maine, but he gave out in the second half last year. We need to see if the Mets can pace him a bit more this year and help him sustain over the full season.

Even if Maine were never to pitch another ballgame, he would go down as one of the biggest trade steals in team history. (Steven Goldman)


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Although he has not thrown an MLB pitch in 2014, John Maine threw 5,214 pitches that were tracked by the PITCHf/x system between 2007 and 2013, all of them occuring in the MLB Regular Season. In 2013, he relied primarily on his Fourseam Fastball (92mph), also mixing in a Slider (85mph). He also rarely threw a Change (86mph).