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Portrait of John Van Benschoten

John Van Benschoten PPirates

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Career Summary
Years IP W L SV SO ERA WARP
3 90 2 13 0 65 9.20 -1.2
Birth Date4-14-1980
Height6' 4"
Weight215 lbs
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WARP Summary

Standard

YEAR TEAM AGE G GS IP IP-SP IP-RP W L SV BS QS BQS PA H R ER HR TB BB UBB HBP SO ERA FIP FRA VORP WARP
2004 PIT 24 6 5 28.7 26.3 2.3 1 3 0 1 2 0 135 33 27 22 3 52 19 19 2 18 6.91 5.26 6.88 -2.8 -0.3
2007 PIT 27 11 9 39.0 34.7 4.3 0 7 0 0 1 0 203 55 45 44 4 78 29 28 5 26 10.15 5.79 6.33 -0.8 -0.1
2008 PIT 28 9 5 22.3 17.7 4.7 1 3 0 0 0 0 125 37 28 26 7 67 20 19 3 21 10.48 8.39 9.31 -7.0 -0.7
Career261990.078.711.321301304631251009214197686610659.206.277.25-10.6-1.2

Advanced

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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP FRA FRA+ TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP PPF PVORP PWARP VORP WARP
2004 PIT MLB 6 5 28.7 6.88 41 .311 .251 .313 .400 .251 .323 92 -4.8 -0.5 -2.8 -0.3
2007 PIT MLB 11 9 39.0 6.33 65 .326 .270 .328 .434 .258 .367 98 -2.1 -0.2 -0.8 -0.1
2008 PIT MLB 9 5 22.3 9.31 -3 .380 .261 .326 .409 .259 .405 99 -6.7 -0.7 -7.0 -0.7
2011 TUC AAA 5 5 26.3 6.42 92 .287 .284 .354 .437 .261 .354 113 2.4 0.2 2.2 0.2

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR GB% BABIP H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 WHIP ERA VORP WARP
2004 PIT MLB 1 3 0 6 5 28.7 33 19 18 3 47% .323 10.4 6.0 0.9 5.7 1.81 6.91 -2.8 -0.3
2007 PIT MLB 0 7 0 11 9 39.0 55 29 26 4 39% .367 12.7 6.7 0.9 6.0 2.15 10.15 -0.8 -0.1
2008 PIT MLB 1 3 0 9 5 22.3 37 20 21 7 43% .405 14.9 8.1 2.8 8.5 2.55 10.48 -7.0 -0.7
2011 TUC AAA 1 4 0 5 5 26.3 37 9 14 3 39% .354 12.6 3.1 1.0 4.8 1.75 7.52 2.2 0.2

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT
2008 475 0.5305 0.4241 0.8259 0.6032 0.2197 0.9013 0.5918 0.1741
Career4750.53050.42410.82590.60320.21970.90130.59180.1741

Injury History

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2011-08-24 2011-09-06 Minors 13 14 Right Shoulder Inflammation Biceps - -
2010-05-07 2010-07-11 Minors 65 0 Right Knee Cartilage Injury Meniscus -
2009-06-17 2009-08-01 Minors 45 0 Not Disclosed -
2006-04-03 2006-08-16 60-DL 135 120 Right Shoulder Recovery From Surgery Labrum + Rotator Cuff + Thermal Capsule Repair 2005-01-27
2005-04-01 2005-10-02 60-DL 184 161 Right Shoulder Surgery Labrum + Rotator Cuff + Thermal Capsule Repair 2005-01-27

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2006 NYA $327,000
2005 NYA $316,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
2 yrPrevious$643,000
2 yrTotal$643,000

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
2 y 114 d

Details
  • signed as a free agent from CWS 2/10 (minor-league contract)
  • signed as a free agent from PIT 12/8/08 (minor-league contract)
  • sent outright to Triple-A 10/29/08 recalled 7/21/08 optioned to Triple-A 7/10/08 recalled 6/28/08 optioned to Triple-A 5/13/08 recalled 4/27/08 optioned to Triple-A 3/18/08 recalled 9/3/07 optioned to Triple-A 7/28/07
  • recalled 6/15/07
  • optioned to Triple-A 3/07 re-signed 3/07, 1 year (07) re-signed 1/06, 1 year/$0.327M (06)
  • re-signed 1/05, 1 year/$0.316M (05) (split contract) recalled 8/04 optioned to Triple-A 8/04 recalled 8/04 optioned to Triple-A 3/04 40-m 11/03 $2.4M signing bonus
  • Kent St 01 1-8

2014 Preseason Forecast

Last Update: 3/11/2014 05:35 ET

PCT W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR BABIP WHIP ERA FRA VORP WARP
Weighted Mean?????0.0????.0000.000.00?0.00.0

Diagnostics

Breakout Rate Improve Rate Collapse Rate Attrition Rate MLB %
0% 0% 0% 0% 0%

Upside By Year

2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 PEAK 5
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3 84 Eric Junge 2011 0.00 DNP
4 84 Denny Stark 2009 7.36
5 83 Tim Corcoran 2012 0.00 DNP
6 83 Jeff Harris 2009 0.00 DNP
7 82 Marty McLeary 2009 0.00 DNP
8 81 Brian Mazone 2011 0.00 DNP
9 81 Randy Keisler 2010 0.00 DNP
10 81 Jose Santiago 2009 0.00 DNP
11 80 Brandon Knight 2010 0.00 DNP
12 79 Jim Crowell 2008 0.00 DNP
13 79 Travis Smith 2007 0.00 DNP
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16 77 Andrew Lorraine 2007 0.00 DNP
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18 76 Justin Thompson 2007 0.00 DNP
19 76 Julio Manon 2007 0.00 DNP
20 75 John Wasdin 2007 5.95
21 75 Casey Fossum 2012 0.00 DNP
22 75 Justin Lehr 2012 0.00 DNP
23 74 Brandon Duckworth 2010 0.00 DNP
24 73 R.A. Dickey 2009 4.76
25 72 David Lee 2007 0.00 DNP
26 72 Damian Moss 2011 0.00 DNP
27 71 Randy Williams 2010 6.12
28 71 Jason Childers 2009 0.00 DNP
29 71 Josh Towers 2011 0.00 DNP
30 71 Chris Bootcheck 2013 9.00
31 71 Chris Jakubauskas 2013 0.00 DNP
32 69 Claudio Vargas 2012 0.00 DNP
33 69 Scott Strickland 2010 9.00
34 69 Tomo Ohka 2010 0.00 DNP
35 69 Stephen Randolph 2008 0.00 DNP
36 69 Kane Davis 2009 0.00 DNP
37 69 Lindsay Gulin 2011 0.00 DNP
38 68 Tim Redding 2012 0.00 DNP
39 68 Steve Woodard 2009 0.00 DNP
40 67 Brad Thomas 2012 0.00 DNP
41 67 Nate Field 2010 0.00 DNP
42 66 Chan Ho Park 2007 15.75
43 66 Frank Castillo 2003 0.00 DNP
44 66 Chris Short 1972 4.70
45 66 Wilson Alvarez 2004 4.18
46 66 Brian Lawrence 2010 0.00 DNP
47 66 Bryan Corey 2008 6.60
48 66 Camilo Pascual 1968 3.22
49 66 C.J. Nitkowski 2007 0.00 DNP
50 66 Micah Bowie 2009 0.00 DNP
51 66 Dave Goltz 1983 6.79
52 66 Rolando Arrojo 2003 0.00 DNP
53 66 Earl Harrist 1953 8.67
54 66 Bob Feller 1953 4.00
55 66 Marvin Freeman 1997 0.00 DNP
56 66 Hal Newhouser 1955 0.00
57 66 Tim Wakefield 2001 4.43
58 66 Darryl Kile 2003 0.00 DNP
59 66 Mike Flanagan 1986 4.97
60 66 Joe Nuxhall 1963 3.02
61 66 Kevin Appier 2002 4.25
62 65 Dave Burba 2001 6.69
63 65 Danny Cox 1994 1.45
64 65 Juan Guzman 2001 0.00 DNP
65 65 Ted Power 1989 4.36
66 65 Ron Darling 1995 6.84
67 65 Kevin Gross 1995 6.08
68 65 Walt Masterson 1954 0.00 DNP
69 65 Cal McLish 1960 5.00
70 65 Larry McWilliams 1988 4.24
71 65 Frank Tanana 1988 4.66
72 65 Rudy May 1979 2.88
73 65 Bruce Kison 1984 5.79
74 65 Rick Sutcliffe 1990 5.91
75 65 Bob Welch 1991 5.07
76 65 Pat Dobson 1976 4.06
77 65 Jim Bibby 1979 3.33
78 65 Bob Shaw 1967 5.21
79 65 Jack McDowell 2000 0.00 DNP
80 65 Bob Ojeda 1992 4.33
81 65 Frank Sullivan 1964 0.00 DNP
82 65 Erik Hanson 1999 0.00 DNP
83 65 Elmer Dessens 2005 4.11
84 65 Joe Gibbon 1969 3.03
85 65 Jose Deleon 1995 5.68
86 65 Gary Peters 1971 4.67
87 65 Paul Wilson 2007 0.00 DNP
88 65 Charles Nagy 2001 6.78
89 65 Valerio De Los Santos 2007 0.00 DNP
90 65 Karl Drews 1954 6.45
91 65 Sal Maglie 1951 3.38
92 65 Al Jackson 1970 0.00 DNP
93 65 Josh Fogg 2011 0.00 DNP
94 64 Aaron Sele 2004 5.73
95 64 Catfish Hunter 1980 0.00 DNP
96 64 Virgil Trucks 1951 4.69
97 64 Ray Sadecki 1975 5.38 DNP
98 64 Doyle Alexander 1985 3.63
99 64 Charlie Puleo 1989 4.97
100 64 Bill Krueger 1992 4.68

BP Annual Player Comments

YearComment
2009 The Pirates' first-round draft pick as a pitcher in 2001 after being college baseball's leading home-run hitter at Kent State, John Van Benschoten takes his 9.20 career ERA (MLB's highest ever by a pitcher with at least 90 career innings) to the White Sox.
2008 The Pirates surprised many by drafting Van Benschoten as a pitcher in the first round in 2001 despite the fact that he led college baseball with 31 home runs at Kent State that spring. That decision doesn't look any better today, as his major league record is 1-10 with an 8.78 ERA in 67 2/3 innings. Three shoulder surgeries in 2004 and 2005, including the dreaded labrum surgery, derailed Van Benschoten's career, and it is starting to look like he might never get it back on track.
2007 Van Benschoten`s recovery from labrum and rotator cuff surgeries has been a long time in coming. He missed all of 2005 and spent last season pitching sparingly at three different minor league levels. The word is that he will be good to go by spring, but the list of pitchers who`ve made successful comebacks from labrum surgery is quite short. Had things progressed according to plan, Van Bencshoten would have put the Pirates` decision to make him a pitcher instead of a hitter behind him years ago. Instead, it`s the only aspect of his career likely to be of continuing interest.
2006 One of the most glaring Pirate organizational misplays in recent years was the decision to develop Van Benschoten as a pitcher. The Bucs drafted him out of Kent State with the eighth overall pick of the 2001 draft. Despite the fact that double-duty Van Benschoten led Division I in homers his junior year, the Pirates opted to make him a full-time hurler. Worse yet, they pushed him aggressively, promoting him despite his unimpressive numbers since the first half of the 2003 campaign when he was in High-A. He missed all of the 2005 season after three arthroscopic surgeries, but is expected to be fully healthy by spring training. Considering that his fastball and late-breaking slider are his only plus offerings, a move to the bullpen might be advisable.
2005 Since being the Pirates' top pick in the '01 draft, people have been asking if they made the right choice in making him a full-time pitcher. You have to wonder about the scout who complained his arms were like Michael Jordan's, "too long" to allow him to hit. Comparing a high school baseball washout to the guy who led NCAA Division I in home runs seems like some sort of latter-day Lamarckian farfel to support a decision already made. It's sort of moot to fret about now; he could still be like former Bucs Don Robinson or Rick Rhoden, and be one of the best-hitting pitchers in the league.

The real problem is that VanBenschoten didn't make that much progress in the last two years above A-ball, and there are times when it's clear that he's still picking up a lot of the finer points of pitching. His control isn't terrible, but his command within the strike zone is still a bit spotty, and holding runners isn't considered a strong suit. He's got a good fastball, but all of his breaking and off-speed stuff needs work. He could figure it all out, but he's nowhere close to a finished product. That could mean lots of good stuff once he is, but if the organization gets any more impatient, it might not happen here, if at all.

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This article requires BP Premium accessWhat You Need to Know: What Choo Think is Wrong with Kimbrel?Daniel Rathman2013-05-08
This article requires BP Premium accessTransaction Analysis: NL RoundupChristina Kahrl2008-11-10
This article requires BP Premium accessOn the Beat: The New CrewJohn Perrotto2008-08-06
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Preview: Friday's Games to WatchCaleb Peiffer2008-08-01
This article requires BP Premium accessTransaction Analysis: Golddiggers and Going For ItChristina Kahrl2008-07-23
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Preview: Wednesday's Games to WatchCaleb Peiffer2008-07-09
This article requires BP Premium accessLies, Damned Lies: The Lost Generation?Nate Silver2008-05-15
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Preview: Monday's Games to WatchCaleb Peiffer2008-05-12
This article requires BP Premium accessTransaction Analysis: Whipped, Hurt, and StompedChristina Kahrl2008-04-29
This article requires BP Premium accessTransaction Analysis: NL Central NRI ReviewChristina Kahrl2008-03-02
Spring Training Preview: NL CentralJoe Sheehan2008-02-11
This article requires BP Premium accessWait 'Til Next Year: Your 2010 PiratesBryan Smith2007-09-18
This article requires BP Premium accessEvery Given Sunday: The Upcoming MarketJohn Perrotto2007-09-09
This article requires BP Premium accessUnder The Knife: Hack, Slash, and RehabWill Carroll2007-07-30
This article requires BP Premium accessTransaction Analysis: National League RoundupChristina Kahrl2007-07-16
This article requires BP Premium accessWait 'Til Next Year: Career Path ChoicesBryan Smith2007-05-08
This article requires BP Premium accessFuture Shock: Unpaid HazardsKevin Goldstein2007-05-03
This article requires BP Premium accessFuture Shock: State of the Systems, NL CentralKevin Goldstein2007-04-25
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Today: A Game Story and a Great StoryJoe Sheehan2007-04-23
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This article requires BP Premium accessHope and Faith: How the Pittsburgh Pirates Can Win the World SeriesJohn Perrotto2007-03-30
This article requires BP Premium accessTransaction Analysis: March 1-12, 2007Christina Kahrl2007-03-13
This article requires BP Premium accessFuture Shock: Two Steps Back, NLKevin Goldstein2006-09-12
This article requires BP Premium accessFuture Shock: Division Roundup, NL Central, 7/18/06Kevin Goldstein2006-07-18
This article requires BP Premium accessFuture Shock: Tuesday Morning Ten-Pack, 5/30/06Kevin Goldstein2006-05-30
This article requires BP Premium accessTransaction Analysis: National League, March 30-April 4Christina Kahrl2006-04-07
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This article requires BP Premium accessDoctoring The Numbers: The Draft, Part EightRany Jazayerli2006-03-07
This article requires BP Fantasy or Premium accessFantasy Focus: Building a Fantasy Farm SystemJeff Erickson2006-02-24
This article requires BP Premium accessTransaction Analysis: February 12-19Christina Kahrl2006-02-20
This article requires BP Premium accessUnder The Knife: It Happens Every SpringWill Carroll2006-02-20
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This article requires BP Premium accessTransaction Analysis: November 18-22Christina Kahrl2005-11-23
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Prospectus Notebook: LAA, PHI, PITBaseball Prospectus2005-08-19
This article requires BP Premium accessUnder The Knife: Coming and GoingWill Carroll2005-07-26
This article requires BP Premium accessTransaction Analysis: March 29-April 4, 2005Christina Kahrl2005-04-12
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This article requires BP Premium accessTransaction Analysis: August 17-23, 2004Christina Kahrl2004-08-24
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Prospectus Triple Play: Florida Marlins, New York Yankees, Pittsburgh PiratesBaseball Prospectus2004-03-15
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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2010-04-22 13:00:00 (link to chat)Is there any reason to keep Strasburg at AA? He's toying with that level at this point. Wouldn't the move to AAA right now make sense?
(tommybones from brooklyn)
He's working on some things, like not stepping across his body from the stretch. My question would be "Is Triple-A that much harder?" Would facing Scranton be more of a challenge? The best hitter in Scranton's lineup last night was ... John Van Benschoten. I think he'll get there quickly, but we're not going to learn much until he's in Washington. He's really good with two devastating pitches and the makings of another. (Will Carroll)
2008-07-21 15:00:00 (link to chat)Any health-related issues with Adam Loewen becoming a hitter? Even if he becomes Cal Ripken on the durability front he has to face some monumental odds at getting back to the majors after taking six years off from hitting.
(Drungo from SoMd)
No I don't think so. The screw in his elbow shouldn't affect hitting. I'm still trying to figure out if it's staying in or will need to be re-fixated. My question is if Loewen does it, does it make Rick Ankiel's feat a bit less impressive? Someone figure out who else could do this - John Van Benschoten comes to mind, though I'm told he has no interest. Brian Bogusevic? Where's KG when you need him? (Will Carroll)


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PITCHf/x Pitcher Profile

A Collaboration between BrooksBaseball.net and Baseball Prospectus - Pitch classifications provided by Pitch Info LLC


Although he has not thrown an MLB pitch in 2014, John Van Benschoten threw 772 pitches that were tracked by the PITCHf/x system between 2007 and 2008, all of them occuring in the MLB Regular Season. In 2008, he relied primarily on his Sinker (92mph) and Fourseam Fastball (92mph), also mixing in a Curve (76mph), Slider (85mph) and Change (85mph).