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Career Summary
Years IP W L SV SO ERA WARP
19 3486.3 229 172 15 2416 3.30 37.9
Birth Date11-23-1940
Height6' 0"
Weight180 lbs
BatsR
ThrowsR
WARP Summary

Standard

YEAR TEAM AGE G GS IP IP-SP IP-RP W L SV BS QS BQS PA H R ER HR TB BB UBB HBP SO ERA FIP FRA VORP WARP
1964 CLE 23 19 16 127.0 122.3 4.7 10 4 1 0 10 2 512 94 41 40 13 149 47 45 2 105 2.83 3.29 3.69 11.9 1.2
1965 CLE 24 41 30 196.3 184.0 12.3 11 11 1 0 15 2 812 166 88 77 20 251 66 63 3 152 3.53 3.23 3.57 21.3 2.0
1966 CLE 25 46 16 155.0 106.3 48.7 12 11 8 2 10 0 628 121 50 48 16 192 50 46 2 145 2.79 2.91 3.12 28.3 3.2
1967 CLE 26 33 29 213.7 210.3 3.3 12 9 2 0 21 1 872 177 76 65 24 282 67 65 1 219 2.74 2.78 3.10 37.2 4.2
1968 CLE 27 34 32 258.3 253.0 5.3 21 9 0 0 27 1 987 152 53 46 16 237 73 69 4 264 1.60 1.88 2.88 17.9 2.0
1969 CLE 28 38 37 249.7 248.3 1.3 9 20 0 0 23 2 1091 229 123 103 37 388 129 118 8 156 3.71 4.68 5.46 -7.1 -1.1
1970 MIN 29 18 17 92.7 90.7 2.0 7 3 0 0 5 1 390 84 36 35 12 140 41 41 2 50 3.40 4.42 5.30 6.0 0.7
1971 BOS 30 21 10 72.3 47.3 25.0 1 7 0 0 4 0 321 73 42 39 8 113 32 31 1 59 4.85 3.53 4.13 8.4 1.0
1972 BOS 31 43 19 179.0 148.3 30.7 15 6 3 4 14 0 714 128 45 38 7 172 65 60 0 123 1.91 2.49 2.63 29.0 3.5
1973 BOS 32 35 35 272.0 272.0 0.0 20 13 0 0 22 3 1096 217 105 101 32 366 78 75 7 206 3.34 3.53 4.23 25.5 2.8
1974 BOS 33 38 38 311.3 311.3 0.0 22 13 0 0 25 7 1266 281 106 101 21 408 82 79 4 176 2.92 3.15 3.59 44.9 4.9
1975 BOS 34 35 35 260.0 260.0 0.0 18 14 0 0 22 5 1080 262 126 116 25 408 72 72 4 142 4.02 3.59 4.18 30.7 2.6
1976 BOS 35 38 38 279.0 279.0 0.0 21 12 0 0 25 3 1136 274 107 95 25 411 64 62 3 131 3.06 3.56 4.46 11.4 1.2
1977 BOS 36 32 32 188.7 188.7 0.0 12 8 0 0 14 4 814 210 98 95 26 346 51 48 2 124 4.53 4.06 4.90 22.0 2.3
1978 BOS 37 32 31 212.3 209.3 3.0 13 8 0 0 17 4 863 185 80 78 26 299 57 53 5 114 3.31 3.95 4.65 15.2 1.7
1979 NYA 38 30 30 195.7 195.7 0.0 13 8 0 0 16 4 819 190 94 85 22 324 53 52 0 104 3.91 3.97 3.93 26.3 2.7
1980 NYA 39 25 25 136.3 136.3 0.0 8 9 0 0 10 1 588 139 79 74 10 219 50 47 1 84 4.89 3.60 3.87 20.1 2.1
1981 PIT 40 9 9 57.3 57.3 0.0 2 5 0 0 4 1 242 54 31 25 3 74 19 17 0 32 3.92 3.23 3.76 6.4 0.6
1982 CAL 41 6 5 29.7 27.7 2.0 2 2 0 0 2 0 135 39 20 19 3 58 8 8 0 30 5.76 2.79 4.30 4.1 0.4
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Advanced

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP FRA FRA+ TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP PPF PVORP PWARP VORP WARP
1964 CLE MLB 19 16 127.0 3.69 108 .234 .249 .313 .386 .260 .235 99 14.2 1.6 11.9 1.2
1965 CLE MLB 41 30 196.3 3.57 107 .250 .244 .312 .374 .261 .256 97 23.3 2.6 21.3 2.0
1966 CLE MLB 46 16 155.0 3.12 121 .237 .238 .302 .368 .252 .253 101 28.5 3.2 28.3 3.2
1967 CLE MLB 33 29 213.7 3.10 117 .243 .235 .301 .350 .255 .273 101 29.4 3.4 37.2 4.2
1968 CLE MLB 34 32 258.3 2.88 110 .201 .231 .297 .344 .259 .216 93 20.8 2.6 17.9 2.0
1969 CLE MLB 38 37 249.7 5.46 64 .281 .247 .320 .376 .262 .252 98 -14.5 -1.6 -7.1 -1.1
1970 MIN MLB 18 17 92.7 5.30 75 .266 .244 .314 .370 .253 .253 101 -0.9 -0.1 6.0 0.7
1971 BOS MLB 21 10 72.3 4.13 108 .272 .248 .314 .358 .258 .294 115 9.0 1.0 8.4 1.0
1972 BOS MLB 43 19 179.0 2.63 128 .217 .240 .304 .348 .254 .233 105 30.2 3.6 29.0 3.5
1973 BOS MLB 35 35 272.0 4.23 107 .234 .259 .327 .384 .266 .239 106 25.5 2.8 25.5 2.8
1974 BOS MLB 38 38 311.3 3.59 120 .230 .260 .319 .373 .263 .264 108 44.9 4.9 44.9 4.9
1975 BOS MLB 35 35 260.0 4.18 111 .249 .256 .322 .376 .261 .283 109 31.2 3.4 30.7 2.6
1976 BOS MLB 38 38 279.0 4.46 95 .248 .253 .313 .355 .258 .273 106 11.7 1.3 11.4 1.2
1977 BOS MLB 32 32 188.7 4.90 107 .259 .265 .327 .402 .264 .301 115 22.0 2.3 22.0 2.3
1978 BOS MLB 32 31 212.3 4.65 101 .233 .262 .324 .383 .264 .241 110 15.2 1.7 15.2 1.7
1979 NYA MLB 30 30 195.7 3.93 112 .261 .274 .334 .412 .268 .263 95 26.3 2.7 26.3 2.7
1980 NYA MLB 25 25 136.3 3.87 111 .273 .273 .331 .406 .270 .291 96 20.1 2.1 20.1 2.1
1981 PIT MLB 9 9 57.3 3.76 108 .247 .247 .308 .359 .254 .271 104 5.7 0.6 6.4 0.6
1981 POR AAA 21 21 146.0 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1982 CAL MLB 6 5 29.7 4.30 105 .293 .273 .328 .416 .267 .383 101 4.1 0.4 4.1 0.4

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR GB% BABIP H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 WHIP ERA VORP WARP
1964 CLE MLB 10 4 1 19 16 127.0 94 47 105 13 42% .235 6.7 3.3 0.9 7.4 1.11 2.83 11.9 1.2
1965 CLE MLB 11 11 1 41 30 196.3 166 66 152 20 44% .256 7.6 3.0 0.9 7.0 1.18 3.53 21.3 2.0
1966 CLE MLB 12 11 8 46 16 155.0 121 50 145 16 37% .253 7.0 2.9 0.9 8.4 1.10 2.79 28.3 3.2
1967 CLE MLB 12 9 2 33 29 213.7 177 67 219 24 38% .273 7.5 2.8 1.0 9.2 1.14 2.74 37.2 4.2
1968 CLE MLB 21 9 0 34 32 258.3 152 73 264 16 41% .216 5.3 2.5 0.6 9.2 0.87 1.60 17.9 2.0
1969 CLE MLB 9 20 0 38 37 249.7 229 129 156 37 42% .252 8.3 4.7 1.3 5.6 1.43 3.71 -7.1 -1.1
1970 MIN MLB 7 3 0 18 17 92.7 84 41 50 12 42% .253 8.2 4.0 1.2 4.9 1.35 3.40 6.0 0.7
1971 BOS MLB 1 7 0 21 10 72.3 73 32 59 8 42% .294 9.1 4.0 1.0 7.3 1.45 4.85 8.4 1.0
1972 BOS MLB 15 6 3 43 19 179.0 128 65 123 7 38% .233 6.4 3.3 0.4 6.2 1.08 1.91 29.0 3.5
1973 BOS MLB 20 13 0 35 35 272.0 217 78 206 32 39% .239 7.2 2.6 1.1 6.8 1.08 3.34 25.5 2.8
1974 BOS MLB 22 13 0 38 38 311.3 281 82 176 21 40% .264 8.1 2.4 0.6 5.1 1.17 2.92 44.9 4.9
1975 BOS MLB 18 14 0 35 35 260.0 262 72 142 25 41% .283 9.1 2.5 0.9 4.9 1.28 4.02 30.7 2.6
1976 BOS MLB 21 12 0 38 38 279.0 274 64 131 25 38% .273 8.8 2.1 0.8 4.2 1.21 3.06 11.4 1.2
1977 BOS MLB 12 8 0 32 32 188.7 210 51 124 26 34% .301 10.0 2.4 1.2 5.9 1.38 4.53 22.0 2.3
1978 BOS MLB 13 8 0 32 31 212.3 185 57 114 26 42% .241 7.8 2.4 1.1 4.8 1.14 3.31 15.2 1.7
1979 NYA MLB 13 8 0 30 30 195.7 190 53 104 22 36% .263 8.7 2.4 1.0 4.8 1.24 3.91 26.3 2.7
1980 NYA MLB 8 9 0 25 25 136.3 139 50 84 10 42% .291 9.2 3.3 0.7 5.5 1.39 4.89 20.1 2.1
1981 POR AAA 13 7 0 21 21 146.0 150 49 111 8 0% .000 9.2 3.0 0.5 6.8 1.36 3.82 0.0 0.0
1981 PIT MLB 2 5 0 9 9 57.3 54 19 32 3 42% .271 8.5 3.0 0.5 5.0 1.27 3.92 6.4 0.6
1982 CAL MLB 2 2 0 6 5 29.7 39 8 30 3 41% .383 11.8 2.4 0.9 9.1 1.58 5.76 4.1 0.4

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT

Injury History

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
1980-06-21 1980-07-25 34 30 - Thigh Strain - -
1978-03-26 1978-04-18 23 9 Right Fingers Dislocation Index Finger HBP - -
1977-06-05 1977-06-06 DTD 1 1 Right Thigh Strain Hamstring - -
1970-05-29 1970-08-03 66 59 Right Shoulder Fracture Scapula - -

Compensation

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BP Articles

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  Title Author Date
This article requires BP Premium accessThe HOF Rule Change: What Happens After 10 Years?Mike Gianella2014-07-28
This article requires BP Premium accessWhat You Need to Know: The Indians' and Orioles' Pitching ProblemsDaniel Rathman2013-07-12
BP Unfiltered: More on ShutoutsJason Collette2013-04-24
This article requires BP Premium accessDaily Roundup: Around the League: April 21, 2013Clint Chisam2013-04-21
This article requires BP Premium accessSkewed Left: Murphy, Morris, and Using the Full 15 BallotsZachary Levine2013-01-10
This article requires BP Premium accessTransaction Analysis: Dodgers Go Big for GreinkeSam Miller2012-12-10
Wezen-Ball: The SPBA's Short LifeLarry Granillo2012-11-28
The Lineup Card: 12 Stats We Wish Were Readily AvailableBaseball Prospectus2012-09-05
The Lineup Card: 10 Mr. AlmostsBaseball Prospectus2012-05-24
Prospectus Hit and Run: Sizzling StartsJay Jaffe2012-04-18
Baseball ProGUESTus: The Tensest Series of All TimeDave Studeman2012-04-03
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Preview: AL Central 2012 Preseason Preview, Part OneBen Lindbergh2012-02-28
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Preview: AL Central 2012 Preseason Preview, Part OneSteven Goldman2012-02-28
Prospectus Hit and Run: The Golden Era Ballot for the Hall of FameJay Jaffe2011-11-22
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Hit and Run: Don't Call it the Veterans' CommitteeJay Jaffe2010-07-28
One-Hoppers: Wakefield's The Man In BostonMarc Normandin2010-06-09
You Can Blog It Up: Dead Player of the Day and Other Controversies #18Steven Goldman2010-05-04
BP Unfiltered: Five Minutes with The SpacemanDavid Laurila2010-03-31
This article requires BP Premium accessYou Could Look It Up: Get Back in Line, Part 3Steven Goldman2010-03-11
This article requires BP Premium accessYou Could Look It Up: He Should Have Picked LeeSteven Goldman2009-11-01
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Q&A: Toby Harrah, Part 2David Laurila2009-05-20
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Q&A: Toby Harrah, Part OneDavid Laurila2009-05-19
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Q&A: Ross GrimsleyDavid Laurila2009-05-03
Prospectus Q&A: Dick PoleDavid Laurila2009-03-08
This article requires BP Premium accessTransaction Analysis: Cubby QuartetChristina Kahrl2009-01-19
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Hit and Run: The Bleeding Edge of a Whole New Hall GameJay Jaffe2008-12-09
This article requires BP Premium accessOn the Beat: The Winter MeetingsJohn Perrotto2008-12-09
Every Given Sunday: Winter Meetings PreviewJohn Perrotto2008-12-07
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Preview: Monday's Games to WatchCaleb Peiffer2008-09-15
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Hit and Run: Red Sox Rotation FrenzyJay Jaffe2008-08-21
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Preview: Friday's Games to WatchCaleb Peiffer2008-08-15
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Preview: Tuesday's Games to WatchCaleb Peiffer2008-08-12
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Preview: Sunday's Games to WatchCaleb Peiffer2008-08-10
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Preview: Saturday's Games to WatchCaleb Peiffer2008-08-02
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Hit List: After the StormJay Jaffe2008-08-01
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Preview: Saturday's Games to WatchCaleb Peiffer2008-07-12
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Matchups: Exiting Stage LeftJim Baker2008-07-11
This article requires BP Premium accessEvery Given Sunday: Lightning in a Bottle, Thunder in the BronxJohn Perrotto2008-05-18
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Preview: Saturday's Games to WatchCaleb Peiffer2008-05-17
Prospectus Q&A: Willie HortonDavid Laurila2007-12-23
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Matchups: Starting Well is Two-Thirds of Half the BattleJim Baker2007-10-16
The Week in Quotes: August 12-19Alex Carnevale2007-08-20
Prospectus Q&A: Bob TewksburyDavid Laurila2007-03-05
This article requires BP Premium accessGrumpy Old Men: JAWS Tackles the Veterans Committee BallotJay Jaffe2007-02-26
This article requires BP Premium accessYou Could Look It Up: The Definition of InsanitySteven Goldman2006-09-29
This article requires BP Premium accessYou Could Look It Up: No Hitters Ain't That Special, Part TwoSteven Goldman2006-09-14
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Matchups: Early ClincherJim Baker2006-06-27
This article requires BP Premium accessTransaction Analysis: April 5-10Christina Kahrl2006-04-12
This article requires BP Premium access2006--Setting the Stage: Pack Your Bag WellJay Jaffe2006-03-30
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Matchups: I RememberJim Baker2005-11-04
This article requires BP Premium accessTransaction Analysis: May 24-June 12, 2005Christina Kahrl2005-06-16
This article requires BP Premium accessThe Veterans Committee Ballot: JAWS Chews on the EligiblesJay Jaffe2005-03-02
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Today: Into the MailbagJoe Sheehan2004-12-06
This article requires BP Premium accessFrom The Mailbag: Unearned Runs, Devil Rays, and the Waiver WireBaseball Prospectus2004-04-26
Marginal Payroll/Marginal Wins: 1977-1979Doug Pappas2004-03-09
You Could Look It Up: WelcomeSteven Goldman2004-02-13


BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2013-11-22 14:00:00 (link to chat)Hi Doug. Thanks for the chat. My favorite pitcher growing up was Luis Tiant - all 50 different versions of his delivery (at least it seemed that way to me). Have you ever looked at his mechanics? Was his delivery really all that different all the time, or just a lot of deceptive fluff thrown up around a basic set of mechanics? If they were all rwally different, how could he possibly that effective with that much inconsistency? Thanks.
(jimbeau from left coast)
I wish that I could say that I had seen every manipulation of the Tiant twist, but I have only seen a handful of clips. But I dig it. Funny thing is, that despite all the crazy funk, his delivery was actually really efficient. He flared the glove all crazy prior to starting his delivery, then looked at the plate before turning/twisting the complete opposite direction - but his momentum was movin on a straight line toward the plate during his twist and goofy leg kick. Then he would finish with friggin' awesome posture and a low/sidearm slot, occasionally tossing that butterfly curveball that invoked some hilarious swings. The key was that Tiant maintained the essential elements of athleticism - balance and momentum - with consistency, even as he added layers of funk to his delivery.

Thanks for invoking memories of El Tiante!

On the jukebox: AC/DC, "For Those About to Rock (We Salute You)" (Doug Thorburn)
2013-03-26 13:00:00 (link to chat)Will this year be the rookie season of the greatest Cuban born player of all time? Is that too high of a mountain to climb? Or only a mountain too high to accurately see over?
(Paul from DC)
Out of curiosity, I used the Baseball-Reference Play Index to find the top 5 Cuban-born players by WAR.

1. Rafael Palmeiro 66.1
2. Luis Tiant 61.8
3. Tony Perez 50.1
4. Bert Campaneris 49.2
5. Minnie Minoso 47.5

That seems really ambitious for Gerardo Concepcion.

Unless you meant Puig. Then it's still really ambitious. (Zachary Levine)
2011-02-08 14:00:00 (link to chat)Did you feel cheated when they said I had a funky delivery? Or was that a compliment?
(Dontrelle Willis from My Next Phase)
Of course it's a compliment! Has anyone ever said that a player has a "funky delivery" with the implication that it made him LESS effective than his stuff would indicate?

I miss you, Dontrelle. I also miss Luis Tiant. (Ken Funck)
2009-08-11 13:00:00 (link to chat)Are you concerned about my workload or am I just a freak of nature?
(Tim Lincecum from SF)
I am concerned, but willing to consider that Lincecum might be a freak in absence of other evidence. I think flexibility and avoidance of even minor injuries is key. I'm not sure if he's Luis Tiant, but I like the comp. (What happened to Tiant in 1970, btw?) (Will Carroll)
2008-07-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)How did Luis Tiant survive to have the career he did with his motion? I know he said something along the lines of "Delivery don't hurt my arm. No runs hurts my arm."
(Henry from Lincoln Park)
Here's the problem ... we remember the exceptions. He actually isn't that much of an exception ... I'd be curious to see some sort of era-adjustment on his innings and he never went over 200 until he was well past the nexus. Still, you remember Tiant but not Roger Moret or Dick Drago or Reggie Cleveland, guys that had much more typical patterns. I mean, I had to look those guys up. Did they have injury problems? How many pitchers had one good year, Mark Prior-style, during the time that Bob Feller calls the good ol' days? (Will Carroll)
2008-01-29 16:00:00 (link to chat)What kind of production can we expect out of Pedro this year? Should I succumb to my man crush on Pedro or should I go with a safer guy like a Jeff Francis?
(Shipoopi from Quohog, RI)
Pedro is the new Luis Tiant - who hurt his arm, looked washed up, then resurrected his career with the Red Sox in the early 1970s. Pedro is older than Tiant, but like Tiant, while he may have lost his best stuff, he still knows how to pitch.

Like Tiant, he still has the ability to reach back and put something extra on the ball when he needs to, and he still has the urge to shove the bat up the hitters' ass - he's not giving in to nobody. The Amazing Pedro Experience is over, but Twilight Pedro is still going to be fun to watch. It's just going to be at 170 innings a year, not 210. Three hundred wins is not out of the question.

Inning for inning, Pedro will be better than Francis in 2008. Francis may have more overall value because he'll pitch more. (Rany Jazayerli)


BP Roundtables

DateRoundtable NameComment
2009-10-16 13:00:00NLCS Game Two/ALCS Game OneI keep thinking about Luis Tiant in the '75 World Series. He made three starts that October. Did well against the Reds the first time through, but the third time they had his number. I wonder if that's possible with Sabathia. (Steven Goldman)