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Dave Stieb Blue Jays

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Career Summary
Years PA AVG OBP SLG TAv WARP
16 2 .000 .000 .000 -.004 26.7
Birth Date7-22-1957
Height6' 1"
Weight195 lbs
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ThrowsR

Standard

YEAR TEAM AGE G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR TB BB SO HBP SF SH RBI SB CS AVG OBP SLG TAv VORP FRAA WARP
1979 TOR 21 20 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 4.0 -0.3
1980 TOR 22 36 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 -.005 15.1 9.2 2.6
1981 TOR 23 29 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 3.9 1.2
1982 TOR 24 38 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 5.5 2.8
1983 TOR 25 36 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.8 4.0
1984 TOR 26 35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 2.9 2.8
1985 TOR 27 36 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 6.8 3.8
1986 TOR 28 38 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 2.0 0.6
1987 TOR 29 34 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.2 2.2
1988 TOR 30 33 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.8 2.0
1989 TOR 31 33 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.4 1.4
1990 TOR 32 33 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 5.5 3.0
1991 TOR 33 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.7 0.1
1992 TOR 34 21 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 2.2 0.0
1993 CHA 35 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 -0.3 -0.0
1998 TOR 40 19 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 -.003 4.0 -0.1 0.4
Career4542220000000000000.000.000.000-.00419.144.426.7

Advanced

'opp' stats - quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
YEAR Team Lg G PA TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP BPF BRAA repLVL POS_ADJ FRAA BRR BVORP BWARP VORP WARP
1978 DUN A+ 35 110 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .222 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1979 TOR MLB 20 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 4.0 0.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 -0.3
1980 TOR MLB 36 1 -.005 .253 .321 .381 .000 .000 100 -0.3 0.0 0 9.2 -0.0 -1.3 0.8 15.1 2.6
1981 TOR MLB 29 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 3.9 -0.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.2
1982 TOR MLB 38 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 5.5 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2.8
1983 TOR MLB 36 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4.0
1984 TOR MLB 35 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 2.9 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2.8
1985 TOR MLB 36 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 6.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 3.8
1986 TOR MLB 38 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 2.0 -0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.6
1987 TOR MLB 34 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.2 -0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 2.2
1988 TOR MLB 33 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2.0
1989 TOR MLB 33 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.4
1990 TOR MLB 33 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 5.5 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 3.0
1991 TOR MLB 9 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.7 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.1
1992 TOR MLB 21 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 2.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1993 CHA MLB 4 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 -0.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 -0.0
1998 TOR MLB 19 1 -.003 .238 .298 .325 .000 .000 95 -0.3 0.0 0.1 -0.1 0.0 -0.1 -0.0 4.0 0.4
CareerMLB2-.004.245.309.353.235.00098-0.60.00.144.4-0.2-1.40.819.13.0

Statistics For All Levels

Year Team Lg PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG ISO TAv VORP FRAA WARP
1978 DUN A+ 110 10 19 3 0 1 9 9 18 2 1 .192 .257 .253 .061 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1979 TOR MLB 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 4.0 -0.3
1980 TOR MLB 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 -.005 15.1 9.2 2.6
1981 TOR MLB 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 3.9 1.2
1982 TOR MLB 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 5.5 2.8
1983 TOR MLB 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.8 4.0
1984 TOR MLB 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 2.9 2.8
1985 TOR MLB 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 6.8 3.8
1986 TOR MLB 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 2.0 0.6
1987 TOR MLB 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.2 2.2
1988 TOR MLB 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.8 2.0
1989 TOR MLB 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.4 1.4
1990 TOR MLB 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 5.5 3.0
1991 TOR MLB 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.7 0.1
1992 TOR MLB 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 2.2 0.0
1993 CHA MLB 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 -0.3 -0.0
1998 TOR MLB 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 -.003 4.0 -0.1 0.4

Injury History beta

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
1993-04-06 1993-04-29 15-DL 23 20 Right Elbow Inflammation Tendinitis - -
1992-08-11 1992-10-25 15-DL 75 50 Right Shoulder Inflammation - -
1992-04-06 1992-04-22 15-DL 16 15 Right Elbow Inflammation - -
1991-12-04 1991-12-04 Off 0 0 - Neck Surgery Herniated Disc 1991-12-04 -
1991-10-10 1991-10-10 Off 0 0 - Neck Surgery Herniated Disc Date Is Estimated 1991-10-10 -
1991-05-23 1991-10-14 60-DL 144 121 - Neck Cartilage Injury Herniated Disc - -

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BP Articles

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  Title Author Date
Top Tools: Best PitchesBP Prospect Staff2013-04-01
BP Unfiltered: Is Jack Morris the Best Pitcher of an Era?Colin Wyers2013-01-08
Wezen-Ball: Covering an All-Star TeamLarry Granillo2012-05-10
Between The Numbers: The Prorating GameColin Wyers2012-05-04
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Hit and Run: Bartolo Colon and the Comeback KidsJay Jaffe2012-04-23
This article requires BP Premium accessPebble Hunting: Scott Boras' First TimeSam Miller2012-01-25
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Hit and Run: The Keltner All-Stars, Part IIJay Jaffe2012-01-16
Heartburn Hardball: Jack Morris in MotionJonathan Bernhardt2012-01-13
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Hit and Run: A Weighty MatterJay Jaffe2011-10-31
The Lineup Card: 13 Bad Players Who Are (or Were) Still Fun to Watch and Root ForBaseball Prospectus2011-10-26
This article requires BP Premium accessDivide and Conquer, NL West: The Dodgers Were Not Built to Wait Until Next YearGeoff Young2011-07-12
This article requires BP Premium accessAging Hurlers: Javier Vazquez and the Incredible Fading FastballMichael Jong2011-05-25
This article requires BP Premium accessOverthinking It: Bartolo ColonoscopyBen Lindbergh2011-03-24
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Hit and Run: Marvin Miller and Pat GillickJay Jaffe2010-11-16
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Hit List: Big Hits and Near MissesJay Jaffe2010-08-13
You Can Blog It Up: Yunel Escobar and the Bobby Cox All-StarsSteven Goldman2010-07-15
Prospectus Q&A: Chaz ScogginsDavid Laurila2010-03-07
This article requires BP Premium accessOn the Beat: Cooper's OptimismJohn Perrotto2009-04-19
This article requires BP Premium accessChange For Its Own Sake: Reviewing the Cubs' OffseasonChristina Kahrl2009-03-05
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Hit and Run: The Comeback KingsJay Jaffe2008-10-15
This article requires BP Premium accessYou Could Look It Up: Topping the Twins, Part DeuxSteven Goldman2008-02-18
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Matchups: Grab BagJim Baker2007-08-31
Prospectus Today: Midsummer Classic HighlightsJoe Sheehan2007-07-11
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Today: The Buehrle DilemmaJoe Sheehan2007-06-28
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Matchups: Mommy, It's a Stray Datum! Can We Keep It?Jim Baker2007-01-26
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Matchups: The Rivalry ComethJim Baker2005-09-09
Prospectus Triple Play: Atlanta Braves, Tampa Bay Devil Rays, Toronto Blue JaysDavid Kirsch2005-05-06
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Matchups: NL Cy Young VotingJim Baker2004-11-10
This article requires BP Premium accessLies, Damned Lies: ComparablesNate Silver2004-10-21
Aim For The Head: Hidden Perfect Games MailbagKeith Woolner2004-05-26
This article requires BP Premium accessThe Class of 2004: Analyzing the PitchersJay Jaffe2004-01-14
This article requires BP Premium accessProspectus Today: Return of the Cripple StickJoe Sheehan2003-05-02
The Proper Support: Did Bert Blyleven Receive it?Greg Spira2003-03-06
2003 Internet Hall Of Fame Results: Presented by STATLG-L and Baseball ProspectusNeal Traven2003-01-06


BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2011-01-05 13:00:00I always hated the argument that because Morris was the best starting pitcher of the '80's, he should go in. Using that logic, Freehan or McCarver would be in the Hall. Some eras are just weak at one position or another. No question; just wanted to make that observation.
(GrinnellSteve from Grinnell)
Good point, except I think that it's an incorrect premise to suggest that Morris was the best of the '80s. Dave Stieb had much higher WARP totals and I believe rates as the best pitcher of his era, yet he had less exposure in terms of the postseason. (Jay Jaffe)
2010-08-02 13:30:00Must admit that I was rooting hard for the Jays to trade Downs at the deadline, so that I no longer was confronted with the abomination of somebody else wearing Dave Stieb's uniform number (37). It's well past time for the Jays to retire the uniform number of their all-time leading pitcher. (Roy Halladay, you say? Never heard of him.)
(rowenbell from IL)
Ah, Rowen, you know how to hit a person smack in their nostalgia lobe, don't you. I do miss Dave Stieb, but there again, you're talking to somebody whose favorite pitcher of all time was Dave Stewart, and the A's can't retire his number, because they subsequently retired it for Rollie Fingers. (Christina Kahrl)
2009-10-13 14:00:00Your thoughts on Jair Jurrjens' future please.
(Frug from UIUC)
There were some who thought his 2008 season would be his best; obviously, he chose to disagree. He suffers from some of the biases against "short" right-handers, and he isn't throwing any harder. Still, he outperformed Lowe (and Kawakami). It seems crazy that even before this season, two of his top comps were Greg Maddux and Dave Stieb, two of the best "short" right-handers of the past generation. It also suggests how extraordinary Jurrjens already is, which is where all the doubt comes from. Could he really be that good? I don't think we can say yes or no with anything like the same sort of authority as we can with more typical players. I'd take my chances with him, certainly. (Christina Kahrl)
2008-12-23 14:00:00Merry Christmas Christina! What should the Blue Jays wish for under the Christmas tree?
(jerjapan from Toronto)
Three starting pitchers? Dave Stieb circa 1981 to step out of the wayback machine? Global warming to swallow up Boston and New York and St. Petersburg? Realignment? (Christina Kahrl)
2008-09-10 13:00:00With the Jays on the noggin, who's going to be the first player into the HoF with a Blue Jays cap?
(Aaron from YYZ)
Rickey Henderson? Fred McGriff? Lyle Overbay? Maybe a successful VC campaign for Dave Stieb?

That's a stumper. I honestly don't know the answer. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-07-24 13:00:00Ms. Kahrl, my favourite baseball writer. A few years ago we had slow-footed sluggers undervalued (and that was probably a long period, no?). Then, the As and others focused on the fragile and the defensively-gifted. Care to guess what type of talent teams might be passing over too quickly now? Or has that window closed more or less?
(Jim Clancy from Exhibition Stadium)
Ah, Mr. Clancy... is it wrong that I liked Dave Stieb better? (Hey, it isn't like I'm picking Luis Leal.) Anyway, I'd suggest that it's still "bad apples," because look what citizenship grades have done to the market value of Milton Bradley or Barry Bonds. Or Shawn Chacon. (Christina Kahrl)


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