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Career Summary
Years IP W L SV SO ERA
21 5243.7 363 245 29 2583 3.09
Birth Date4-23-1921
Height6' 0"
Weight172 lbs
BatsL
ThrowsL
WARP Summary

Standard

YEAR TEAM AGE G GS IP IP-SP IP-RP W L SV BS QS BQS PA H R ER HR TB BB UBB HBP SO ERA FIP FRA VORP WARP
1942 BSN 21 4 2 15.7 0.0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 79 25 15 10 0 0 11 11 0 7 5.74 3.50 0.00 0.0 0.0
1946 BSN 25 24 16 125.7 0.0 0.0 8 5 1 0 0 0 514 107 46 41 6 0 36 36 1 67 2.94 2.76 0.00 0.0 0.0
1947 BSN 26 40 35 289.7 0.0 0.0 21 10 3 0 0 0 1174 245 87 75 15 0 84 84 1 123 2.33 3.27 0.00 0.0 0.0
1948 BSN 27 36 35 257.0 0.0 0.0 15 12 1 0 0 0 1064 237 115 106 19 0 77 77 1 114 3.71 3.55 0.00 0.0 0.0
1949 BSN 28 38 38 302.3 0.0 0.0 21 14 0 0 0 0 1258 283 125 103 27 0 86 86 3 151 3.07 3.57 0.00 0.0 0.0
1950 BSN 29 41 39 293.0 233.3 1.7 21 17 1 0 22 1 976 248 123 103 22 280 111 111 1 191 3.16 3.27 3.43 49.4 5.5
1951 BSN 30 39 36 310.7 303.0 7.7 22 14 0 0 21 7 1289 278 111 103 20 388 109 109 1 164 2.98 3.22 3.66 33.4 3.3
1952 BSN 31 40 35 290.0 270.7 13.7 14 19 3 0 22 4 1160 263 109 96 19 355 73 73 6 183 2.98 2.82 3.47 29.2 3.4
1953 MLN 32 35 32 265.7 220.3 3.0 23 7 3 0 21 1 898 211 75 62 14 253 70 70 1 148 2.10 2.99 3.85 33.3 3.8
1954 MLN 33 39 34 283.3 241.0 6.7 21 12 3 0 20 5 1032 262 107 99 24 336 86 86 1 136 3.14 3.48 3.97 25.7 2.9
1955 MLN 34 39 32 245.7 203.3 14.7 17 14 1 1 19 1 909 249 99 89 25 325 65 61 2 110 3.26 3.55 4.31 13.4 1.4
1956 MLN 35 39 35 281.3 239.0 2.7 20 11 3 1 23 4 957 249 92 87 25 318 52 40 3 128 2.78 3.06 4.04 22.6 2.5
1957 MLN 36 39 35 271.0 267.0 4.0 21 11 3 0 26 1 1111 241 94 81 23 353 78 74 2 111 2.69 3.68 4.22 16.7 1.6
1958 MLN 37 38 36 290.0 279.3 1.7 22 11 1 0 23 4 1139 257 106 99 29 385 76 69 2 150 3.07 3.58 4.39 34.1 4.7
1959 MLN 38 40 36 292.0 280.7 11.3 21 15 0 2 23 4 1206 282 106 96 21 406 70 61 1 143 2.96 3.31 4.07 32.4 3.2
1960 MLN 39 40 33 267.7 256.3 11.3 21 10 2 1 17 10 1110 254 114 104 24 373 74 65 4 154 3.50 3.54 3.97 23.3 3.0
1961 MLN 40 38 34 262.7 258.3 4.3 21 13 0 2 19 4 1063 236 96 88 24 360 64 63 4 115 3.02 3.75 4.45 29.8 3.6
1962 MLN 41 34 34 269.3 269.3 0.0 18 14 0 0 25 4 1088 248 97 91 25 370 55 51 3 118 3.04 3.70 4.38 20.6 2.0
1963 MLN 42 33 33 259.7 259.7 0.0 23 7 0 0 23 2 1037 241 85 75 23 355 49 45 0 102 2.60 3.43 4.02 8.9 1.9
1964 MLN 43 38 25 173.7 152.3 21.3 6 13 4 1 8 5 759 204 110 102 23 322 52 48 2 78 5.29 4.51 4.79 3.7 0.5
1965 NYN 44 20 19 126.0 125.0 1.0 4 12 0 0 10 1 543 140 70 61 18 221 35 34 2 56 4.36 4.48 5.12 -3.0 -0.4
1965 SFN 44 16 11 71.7 64.7 7.0 3 4 0 0 6 1 303 70 34 27 8 113 21 20 1 34 3.39 4.06 4.46 3.3 0.3
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Advanced

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP FRA FRA+ TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP PPF PVORP PWARP VORP WARP
1942 BSN MLB 4 2 15.7 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .410 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1946 BSN MLB 24 16 125.7 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .250 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1947 BSN MLB 40 35 289.7 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .242 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1948 BSN MLB 36 35 257.0 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .256 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1949 BSN MLB 38 38 302.3 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .258 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1950 BSN MLB 41 39 293.0 3.43 124 .232 .260 .330 .407 .262 .252 94 42.5 4.1 49.4 5.5
1951 BSN MLB 39 36 310.7 3.66 113 .243 .255 .322 .386 .263 .259 95 30.8 3.2 33.4 3.3
1952 BSN MLB 40 35 290.0 3.47 106 .248 .250 .315 .369 .264 .265 89 25.9 2.8 29.2 3.4
1953 MLN MLB 35 32 265.7 3.85 115 .224 .266 .330 .408 .270 .247 93 28.0 2.8 33.3 3.8
1954 MLN MLB 39 34 283.3 3.97 107 .246 .266 .333 .401 .265 .256 93 24.2 2.5 25.7 2.9
1955 MLN MLB 39 32 245.7 4.31 98 .259 .255 .319 .395 .256 .273 93 12.7 1.3 13.4 1.4
1956 MLN MLB 39 35 281.3 4.04 100 .223 .252 .314 .396 .251 .243 94 14.8 1.5 22.6 2.5
1957 MLN MLB 39 35 271.0 4.22 96 .241 .258 .315 .389 .258 .243 94 15.1 1.6 16.7 1.6
1958 MLN MLB 38 36 290.0 4.39 95 .242 .260 .322 .404 .263 .249 94 15.6 1.7 34.1 4.7
1959 MLN MLB 40 36 292.0 4.07 102 .245 .260 .320 .398 .260 .269 93 20.5 2.1 32.4 3.2
1960 MLN MLB 40 33 267.7 3.97 100 .249 .256 .318 .387 .258 .269 94 18.0 1.9 23.3 3.0
1961 MLN MLB 38 34 262.7 4.45 96 .236 .262 .319 .403 .257 .247 93 16.8 1.7 29.8 3.6
1962 MLN MLB 34 34 269.3 4.38 100 .238 .262 .323 .391 .260 .251 96 19.8 2.1 20.6 2.0
1963 MLN MLB 33 33 259.7 4.02 90 .239 .244 .299 .363 .255 .253 95 4.3 0.5 8.9 1.9
1964 MLN MLB 38 25 173.7 4.79 84 .297 .251 .304 .368 .256 .300 102 3.9 0.4 3.7 0.5
1965 NYN MLB 20 19 126.0 5.12 71 .289 .251 .311 .378 .263 .282 98 -4.9 -0.6 -3.0 -0.4
1965 SFN MLB 16 11 71.7 4.46 90 .286 .250 .306 .380 .261 .259 101 2.3 0.3 3.3 0.3

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR GB% BABIP H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 WHIP ERA VORP WARP
1942 BSN MLB 0 0 0 4 2 15.7 25 11 7 0 0% .410 14.4 6.3 0.0 4.0 2.30 5.74 0.0 0.0
1946 BSN MLB 8 5 1 24 16 125.7 107 36 67 6 0% .250 7.7 2.6 0.4 4.8 1.14 2.94 0.0 0.0
1947 BSN MLB 21 10 3 40 35 289.7 245 84 123 15 0% .242 7.6 2.6 0.5 3.8 1.14 2.33 0.0 0.0
1948 BSN MLB 15 12 1 36 35 257.0 237 77 114 19 0% .256 8.3 2.7 0.7 4.0 1.22 3.71 0.0 0.0
1949 BSN MLB 21 14 0 38 38 302.3 283 86 151 27 0% .258 8.4 2.6 0.8 4.5 1.22 3.07 0.0 0.0
1950 BSN MLB 21 17 1 41 39 293.0 248 111 191 22 46% .252 7.6 3.4 0.7 5.9 1.23 3.16 49.4 5.5
1951 BSN MLB 22 14 0 39 36 310.7 278 109 164 20 41% .259 8.1 3.2 0.6 4.8 1.25 2.98 33.4 3.3
1952 BSN MLB 14 19 3 40 35 290.0 263 73 183 19 45% .265 8.2 2.3 0.6 5.7 1.16 2.98 29.2 3.4
1953 MLN MLB 23 7 3 35 32 265.7 211 70 148 14 43% .247 7.1 2.4 0.5 5.0 1.06 2.10 33.3 3.8
1954 MLN MLB 21 12 3 39 34 283.3 262 86 136 24 47% .256 8.3 2.7 0.8 4.3 1.23 3.14 25.7 2.9
1955 MLN MLB 17 14 1 39 32 245.7 249 65 110 25 55% .273 9.1 2.4 0.9 4.0 1.28 3.26 13.4 1.4
1956 MLN MLB 20 11 3 39 35 281.3 249 52 128 25 45% .243 8.0 1.7 0.8 4.1 1.07 2.78 22.6 2.5
1957 MLN MLB 21 11 3 39 35 271.0 241 78 111 23 48% .243 8.0 2.6 0.8 3.7 1.18 2.69 16.7 1.6
1958 MLN MLB 22 11 1 38 36 290.0 257 76 150 29 54% .249 8.0 2.4 0.9 4.7 1.15 3.07 34.1 4.7
1959 MLN MLB 21 15 0 40 36 292.0 282 70 143 21 54% .269 8.7 2.2 0.6 4.4 1.21 2.96 32.4 3.2
1960 MLN MLB 21 10 2 40 33 267.7 254 74 154 24 50% .269 8.5 2.5 0.8 5.2 1.23 3.50 23.3 3.0
1961 MLN MLB 21 13 0 38 34 262.7 236 64 115 24 51% .247 8.1 2.2 0.8 3.9 1.14 3.02 29.8 3.6
1962 MLN MLB 18 14 0 34 34 269.3 248 55 118 25 49% .251 8.3 1.8 0.8 3.9 1.12 3.04 20.6 2.0
1963 MLN MLB 23 7 0 33 33 259.7 241 49 102 23 52% .253 8.4 1.7 0.8 3.5 1.12 2.60 8.9 1.9
1964 MLN MLB 6 13 4 38 25 173.7 204 52 78 23 54% .300 10.6 2.7 1.2 4.0 1.47 5.29 3.7 0.5
1965 NYN MLB 4 12 0 20 19 126.0 140 35 56 18 50% .282 10.0 2.5 1.3 4.0 1.39 4.36 -3.0 -0.4
1965 SFN MLB 3 4 0 16 11 71.7 70 21 34 8 53% .259 8.8 2.6 1.0 4.3 1.27 3.39 3.3 0.3

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT

Injury History

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation

Compensation

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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2013-06-13 13:00:00 (link to chat)Why the concern for the height of starting pitchers, like Carlos Martinez? He is bigger than many HOF starting pitchers like Whitey Ford and Warren Spahn. They were durable, even though they pitched every 4th day, and completed may of their games? Are today's pitchers soft?
(cracker73 from Florida)
I don't think it's all on height. In fact I think little of it is. I think Martinez is a starting pitcher. For a guy like Ventura, he has added weight over the last few years, but he's still a very small-statured guy without a lot of meat on that frame. Even a lot of the shorter starting pitchers that we see today who have mostly held up (Vargas, Cueto to name two of them) have bigger frames despite the height. You won't find many big-league SPs that are Ventura's size, but I still think there's a decent chance to start because everything else works so well. (Jason Cole)
2011-05-18 13:00:00 (link to chat)When they did the Tommy John surgery on Jaime Garcia a couple of years ago, whose left arm did they graft on, Warren Spahn's or John Tudor's? Put more prosaically, how long does this tantalizing left-handed unhittability last?
(Bill from New Mexico)
Well, Warren Spahn is dead, but I'm pretty sure arms are not part of the organ donor program. :) Garcia is going to progress to the mean at some point but I really believe he is going to be a top-shelf starter for many years to come. He's got pretty good stuff and a good idea of what to do with it. (John Perrotto)
2009-06-24 13:00:00 (link to chat)So after the hubbub about bringing David Price up too late, does it look like perhaps the Rays brought him up a bit too soon?
(Tim from Tampa)
No, not really. I think we've forgotten that there can be a transitional period for minors players coming to the majors, regardless of how impressive they are. You wouldn't have forecast Roger Clemens for 19 Cy Youngs off of 1984, Carl Hubbell was bounced out of Detroit before clicking with the Giants, the Braves sent Warren Spahn back to the minors after his first audition, and Jim Palmer didn't post an above-average ERA+ until year three. Price's minors numbers are what they are. Now he just has to evolve one more time. It should happen, but perhaps not instantly. This same impatience is something I see daily with the Yankees and Joba, Hughes, et al. (Steven Goldman)


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