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Career Summary
Years G IP W L SV ERA WARP
17 401 2198 131 124 2 4.27 51.7
Birth Date4-2-1970
Height6' 3"
Weight220 lbs
Age47 years, 1 months, 22 days
BatsL
ThrowsR
WARP Summary

MLB Statistics

Historical (past-seasons) WARP is now based on DRA..
cFIP and DRA are not available on a by-team basis and display as zeroes(0). See TOT line for season totals of these stats.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP W L SV H BB SO HR oppTAv PPF H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 GB% BABIP TAv WHIP FIP ERA cFIP DRA DRA- WARP
1994 PIT MLB 17 17 108.7 6 7 0 116 25 71 12 .257 98 9.6 2.1 1.0 5.9 55% .296 .258 1.30 3.90 3.73 86 3.67 74.0 2.7
1995 PIT MLB 21 12 72.7 4 7 0 103 14 45 7 .256 103 12.8 1.7 0.9 5.6 47% .374 .289 1.61 3.82 6.32 99 5.61 114.9 0.2
1996 PIT MLB 51 15 142.0 9 5 1 156 28 94 19 .252 104 9.9 1.8 1.2 6.0 53% .301 .250 1.30 4.16 3.99 92 4.28 84.5 2.5
1997 PIT MLB 33 32 188.3 11 14 0 193 51 160 23 .255 102 9.2 2.4 1.1 7.6 53% .301 .252 1.30 3.79 4.49 78 3.09 64.2 5.7
1998 PIT MLB 29 28 171.0 8 14 1 182 40 138 23 .255 100 9.6 2.1 1.2 7.3 44% .302 .257 1.30 3.95 4.11 84 3.87 80.2 3.8
1999 CHN MLB 31 31 203.3 10 11 0 226 46 186 28 .259 100 10.0 2.0 1.2 8.2 47% .322 .252 1.34 3.72 4.07 73 3.35 65.1 6.3
2000 CHN MLB 35 35 251.0 12 11 0 248 54 192 36 .257 99 8.9 1.9 1.3 6.9 60% .281 .240 1.20 4.15 4.41 84 3.16 60.9 8.2
2001 CHN MLB 34 34 232.3 20 6 0 226 41 148 25 .257 98 8.8 1.6 1.0 5.7 55% .273 .240 1.15 3.75 3.80 91 3.03 62.8 7.1
2002 CHN MLB 21 21 141.0 6 8 0 153 12 87 15 .256 99 9.8 0.8 1.0 5.6 51% .296 .247 1.17 3.30 3.70 88 3.39 72.7 3.6
2004 NYA MLB 27 27 176.7 14 8 0 216 18 102 20 .259 103 11.0 0.9 1.0 5.2 50% .323 .258 1.32 3.81 4.33 90 3.74 77.2 3.9
2005 PHI MLB 35 35 218.3 17 13 0 223 41 149 33 .259 100 9.2 1.7 1.4 6.1 47% .278 .253 1.21 4.21 4.20 94 3.75 80.6 4.3
2006 PHI MLB 27 27 168.0 9 11 0 196 24 100 27 .262 97 10.5 1.3 1.4 5.4 45% .303 .271 1.31 4.54 4.93 101 4.66 94.9 2.1
2007 PHI MLB 14 12 78.0 3 6 0 91 22 54 7 .256 105 10.5 2.5 0.8 6.2 45% .328 .258 1.45 3.91 4.73 99 4.15 85.9 1.4
2008 CHN MLB 26 1 46.7 2 3 0 59 6 27 10 .255 103 11.4 1.2 1.9 5.2 41% .308 .285 1.39 5.24 4.05 113 5.30 113.1 0.0
CareerMLB4013272198.0131124223884221553285.2571009.81.71.26.450%.301.2541.283.974.27893.7175.951.7

Statistics for All Levels

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP W L SV H BB SO HR oppTAv PPF H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 GB% BABIP TAv WHIP FIP ERA cFIP DRA DRA-
1992 EUG A- 5 5 31.0 3 0 0 26 2 23 1 .000 7.5 0.6 0.3 6.7 0% .000 .000 0.90 2.56 1.16 0 0.00 0.0
1992 BCY A+ 7 6 31.0 3 3 0 45 8 19 2 .000 13.1 2.3 0.6 5.5 0% .000 .000 1.71 3.33 4.65 0 0.00 0.0
1993 WIL A+ 17 16 114.7 9 3 0 125 9 89 4 .000 9.8 0.7 0.3 7.0 0% .000 .000 1.17 2.28 2.67 0 0.00 0.0
1993 CAR AA 6 6 34.0 4 2 0 39 10 28 4 .000 10.3 2.6 1.1 7.4 0% .000 .000 1.44 3.94 3.97 0 0.00 0.0
1993 MEM AA 4 4 19.0 2 1 0 32 6 17 3 .000 15.2 2.8 1.4 8.1 0% .000 .000 2.00 4.38 7.58 0 0.00 0.0
1994 PIT MLB 17 17 108.7 6 7 0 116 25 71 12 .257 98 9.6 2.1 1.0 5.9 55% .296 .258 1.30 3.90 3.73 86 3.67 74.0
1994 CAR AA 3 3 21.0 2 0 0 13 2 21 0 .000 5.6 0.9 0.0 9.0 0% .000 .000 0.71 1.38 1.29 0 0.00 0.0
1994 BUF AAA 3 3 21.3 1 1 0 16 1 21 1 .000 6.8 0.4 0.4 8.9 0% .000 .000 0.80 2.13 1.69 0 0.00 0.0
1995 PIT MLB 21 12 72.7 4 7 0 103 14 45 7 .256 103 12.8 1.7 0.9 5.6 47% .374 .289 1.61 3.82 6.32 99 5.61 114.9
1995 CLG AAA 14 14 77.0 1 5 0 122 19 34 6 .000 14.3 2.2 0.7 4.0 0% .000 .000 1.83 4.69 7.01 0 0.00 0.0
1996 PIT MLB 51 15 142.0 9 5 1 156 28 94 19 .252 104 9.9 1.8 1.2 6.0 53% .301 .250 1.30 4.16 3.99 92 4.28 84.5
1997 PIT MLB 33 32 188.3 11 14 0 193 51 160 23 .255 102 9.2 2.4 1.1 7.6 53% .301 .252 1.30 3.79 4.49 78 3.09 64.2
1998 PIT MLB 29 28 171.0 8 14 1 182 40 138 23 .255 100 9.6 2.1 1.2 7.3 44% .302 .257 1.30 3.95 4.11 84 3.87 80.2
1999 CHN MLB 31 31 203.3 10 11 0 226 46 186 28 .259 100 10.0 2.0 1.2 8.2 47% .322 .252 1.34 3.72 4.07 73 3.35 65.1
2000 CHN MLB 35 35 251.0 12 11 0 248 54 192 36 .257 99 8.9 1.9 1.3 6.9 60% .281 .240 1.20 4.15 4.41 84 3.16 60.9
2001 CHN MLB 34 34 232.3 20 6 0 226 41 148 25 .257 98 8.8 1.6 1.0 5.7 55% .273 .240 1.15 3.75 3.80 91 3.03 62.8
2002 CHN MLB 21 21 141.0 6 8 0 153 12 87 15 .256 99 9.8 0.8 1.0 5.6 51% .296 .247 1.17 3.30 3.70 88 3.39 72.7
2003 TAM A+ 1 1 2.0 0 0 0 5 0 4 0 .000 22.5 0.0 0.0 18.0 0% .625 .000 2.50 -0.95 13.50 0 0.00 0.0
2004 NYA MLB 27 27 176.7 14 8 0 216 18 102 20 .259 103 11.0 0.9 1.0 5.2 50% .323 .258 1.32 3.81 4.33 90 3.74 77.2
2004 TAM A+ 1 1 7.0 1 0 0 2 0 4 0 .000 2.6 0.0 0.0 5.1 0% .100 .000 0.29 2.08 0.00 0 0.00 0.0
2005 PHI MLB 35 35 218.3 17 13 0 223 41 149 33 .259 100 9.2 1.7 1.4 6.1 47% .278 .253 1.21 4.21 4.20 94 3.75 80.6
2006 PHI MLB 27 27 168.0 9 11 0 196 24 100 27 .262 97 10.5 1.3 1.4 5.4 45% .303 .271 1.31 4.54 4.93 101 4.66 94.9
2006 CLR A+ 2 2 11.1 0 2 0 19 0 6 1 .263 59 15.4 0.0 0.8 4.9 64% .409 .341 1.71 3.60 7.30 0 0.00 0.0
2006 PHL Rk 1 1 3.2 0 0 0 4 0 1 0 .248 111 11.2 0.0 0.0 2.8 92% .333 .219 1.25 3.73 2.81 0 0.00 0.0
2007 PHI MLB 14 12 78.0 3 6 0 91 22 54 7 .256 105 10.5 2.5 0.8 6.2 45% .328 .258 1.45 3.91 4.73 99 4.15 85.9
2007 CLR A+ 1 1 3.7 0 0 0 4 0 4 0 .271 106 9.7 0.0 0.0 9.7 58% .333 .305 1.08 1.14 2.43 92 3.18 93.5
2008 CHN MLB 26 1 46.7 2 3 0 59 6 27 10 .255 103 11.4 1.2 1.9 5.2 41% .308 .285 1.39 5.24 4.05 113 5.30 113.1
2008 PEO A 3 1 7.0 0 1 0 8 0 6 1 .284 95 10.3 0.0 1.3 7.7 45% .333 .246 1.14 3.83 3.86 94 4.44 103.4
2008 CUB Rk 1 1 3.0 0 0 0 4 0 1 0 .254 98 12.0 0.0 0.0 3.0 70% .400 .225 1.33 3.40 0.00 92 3.97 97.6

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT
2008 662 0.5393 0.5211 0.7710 0.6751 0.3410 0.8340 0.6250 0.2290
Career6620.53930.52110.7710.67510.3410.8340.6250.229

Injury History  —  No longer being updated

Last Update: 12/31/2014 23:59 ET

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2008-09-09 2008-10-05 60-DL 26 18 Right Foot Strain -
2008-07-11 2008-09-01 15-DL 52 45 Right Foot Strain -
2007-06-23 2007-10-07 60-DL 106 89 Right Foot Strain -
2007-03-23 2007-04-08 15-DL 16 5 Abdomen Strain Oblique -
2006-05-29 2006-07-06 15-DL 38 34 Left Groin Strain -
2004-03-30 2004-05-01 15-DL 32 23 Right Groin Strain -
2003-03-30 2003-10-26 60-DL 210 163 Right Elbow Recovery From Surgery Tommy John Surgery 2002-08-07
2002-08-02 2002-09-30 60-DL 59 56 Right Elbow Surgery Tommy John Surgery 2002-08-07
1999-04-21 1999-05-08 15-DL 17 14 Right Contusion - -
1998-08-21 1998-09-14 15-DL 24 22 Left Abdomen Strain Oblique - -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2008 CHN $3,500,000
2007 PHI $7,500,000
2006 PHI $7,250,000
2005 PHI $5,250,000
2004 NYA $2,700,000
2003 CHN $5,500,000
2002 CHN $5,833,333
2001 CHN $5,083,333
2000 CHN $3,833,333
YearsDescriptionSalary
9 yrPrevious$46,449,999
9 yrTotal$46,449,999

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
13 y 77 dRex Gary1 yr/$3.5M (08)

Details
  • signed as a free agent from PHI 1/16/08, 1 year/$3.5M (08)
  • performance bonus (games started,innings pitched)
  • signed as a free agent from NYY 12/04, 3 year/$21M (05-07), $1M signing bonus, 05:$5.25M, 06:$7.25M, 07:$7.5M
  • club declined $8M 05 option 11/04
  • signed as a free agent from CHC 1/03
  • 2 year/$3.5M (03-04)+$8M 05 club option (3 year/$16.775M with opt, bonuses)
  • $0.5M signing bonus (1/2 @ signing, 1/2 1/04), 03:$0.3M+$0.775 in bonuses, 04:$2.45M+$4.75M in bonuses, 05:$8M club option $0.25M buyout
  • CHC declined 03 option 10/02
  • 3 year/$15M (00-02)+$6.25M 03 club option$1M signing bonus, 00:$3.5M, 01:$4.75M, 02:$5.5M, 03:$6.25M $0.25M buyout

2017 Preseason Forecast

Last Update: 1/27/2017 12:35 ET

PCT W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR BABIP WHIP ERA DRA VORP WARP
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Comparable Players (Similarity Index )

Rank Score Name Year Run Average Trend

BP Annual Player Comments

YearComment
2009 As fun as it is to remember when Lieber was stolen from the Pirates for Brant Brown—the "outfielder" who gave us Ron Santo's famous shriek of "Oh nooo!"—that was 10 years ago. Lieber no longer has the ability to fool enough people on the right often enough to have a future in talk radio, and he fools those on the left less often than Bill O'Reilly. A free agent, he'll go wherever desperation cries out for succor and give it his best shot.
2008 On June 9, Lieber shutout the Royals on three hits, walking none, and striking out 11. It was an outlier in a stretch of six starts in which he was tagged for 28 runs in 36 innings. Those six were also his last starts of the season, as a ruptured tendon in his right foot ended his season as of June 20. Lieber has been injured in three of his four seasons since missing all of 2003 following Tommy John surgery, and at 38, his chances of staying healthy aren't increasing. He still has his fine control, walking just 1.7 per nine innings over the last two seasons, so he still has value if he can stay healthy, but that's a very big "if."
2007 Lieber had trouble getting untracked last year. He had an awful April and just as he began to settle down in May he pulled a groin muscle while covering first. That`s where age and a flabby physique took its toll: What was initially thought to be a quick 15-day DL stay dragged out over seven weeks, forcing the Phils to improvise in the rotation. When Lieber finally returned to action, it was April all over again, and getting back on track took another month. He`s starting to lose his fastball, and, when he starts out behind in the count, hitters tee off; their OPS after a 1-0 count was .769 in 2004, .807 in 2005, and .875 last year. Addressing the media at the winter meetings, Charlie Manuel said, `I think at times Jon could definitely have had better conditioning.` Skipping a few of Philadelphia`s fabled three-cheesesteak lunches might not help him recover his lost velocity, but it might keep him on the mound for a few extra turns.
2006 Lieber has to be one of the most unlikely pitchers signed to a fat contract to be the staff ace on a big-payroll contender in recent years. Though Ed Wade overpaid by a princely sum, Lieber delivered reliably in 2005. The veteran sinker-slider control artist struggled after a quick start, then finished strong after he learned how to pitch at CBP, dramatically cutting his gopher ball rate in the second half. He`s still vulnerable to lefty hitters, even though he turns over his plus change.
2005 It took Lieber the better part of the season to find consistency, though his control was always exemplary. In implying that Lieber was not their preferred pitcher because he doesn't "miss bats," the Yankees missed the forest for the trees. Lieber allowed a ton of hits—lefties hit .346/.358/.524 against him— but because he was effective against righties and walks no one, he was better than league average in baserunners allowed. As a roughly neutral fly ball/ground ball pitcher, presumably he suffered for the inadequacy of the outfield gloves. As a pitcher returning from Tommy John surgery, New York's giving Lieber's good September and post-season showing extra weight in their evaluations would have been wise. Instead, their gamble that they would be able to sign him to a cheap multi-year deal was upset by Omar Minaya's overgenerous Kris Benson deal that set the wacky off-season market for second-tier starters. Lieber jumped to the Phillies, where the park and the defense will work against him.
2004 Lieber was paid $550,000 by the Yankees last year to rehab from Tommy John surgery. By all accounts it went well, and he even made a few minor league starts at the end of the year. True to his nature, he struck out 10 and walked none in eight innings. Command is everything for Lieber, who throws strikes and puts the ball in the air. While that's worked for him, it may not be the best plan for success in front of this Yankee defense. He could win 15 games with an ERA in the mid-4.00s.
2003 Lieber is a free agent, and thinks he’ll be able to pitch in the second half after the minimum of 12 months’ recovery time after his Tommy John surgery. It might turn out well, but keep in mind, not everybody recovers in a year, and almost nobody has good command in the first year after he comes back. And then there’s Sterling Hitchcock. You want Lieber to make it back, because he’s one of the game’s real pleasures to watch work, but that doesn’t mean you have to share his optimism.
2002 While it seems as if he’s just been noticed, Lieber hasn’t really taken a step forward so much as he’s stayed healthy. His declining strikeout rates are a reason to be concerned, especially as he has yet to come up with something that works consistently against left-handed hitters. He reached 20 wins in no small part because of the unbalanced schedule, beating the Reds five times in six starts. He’s a BP favorite, but those are all warning signs for a worse year in 2002.
2001 Jon Lieber threw a career-high number of innings by September 1. It showed, as he allowed a third of the 36 home runs hit off of him all year in the last month. While the results of Keith Woolner’s essay on pitcher abuse are compelling (see page 4XX), Lieber is an example of the kind of pitcher who is especially tough to evaluate. He’s exceptionally economical with his pitches, topping 120 pitches just twice during the entire season. Yet just as obviously, he was worn out. Lieber illustrates that we’re only just beginning to map the road to better pitcher usage. Because of Baylor, I’m less enthusiastic about Lieber’s chance of blossoming into one of the game’s great starters, or even just staying healthy. The ability is there.
2000 Is he on the verge of being an ace? He's extremely close, despite his continuing problems with left-handed hitters. Marty DeMerritt tried to get Lieber to add a changeup to complement a good fastball and a slider with so much movement that hitters have problems spotting the seams. Some guys with extreme platoon splits turn the corner, like Alex Fernandez or David Cone or Kevin Appier, but every once in a while you get Danny Darwin. That's nice, but the Cubs are guessing that he'll go towards the high end, inking him to a three-year, $15 million contract.
1999 Came back from a groin injury for two ill-advised September starts that blew his ERA over 4. The great sign with Lieber is that he cured his homerun problem after April, after giving up 8 of his 23 homers allowed in that month. If he can pitch the way he did after April and before the injury, he'll be an extremely valuable starter.
1998 The year translated much better than I expected. Lieber doesn’t throw particularly hard, but has good control and elicits lots of ground balls. While it’s tempting to blame some of his 1997 struggles on the pathetic infield defense behind him, he also had a hard time keeping his pitches down. His HR/IP rate was the worst of his career. He’s a #3 starter on any team in the majors when he stays down around the hitters’ knees, which should be a top priority for Vuckovich this year. If Vlad’s right about the home run rate, Lieber could have a fantastic year.
1997 A maddeningly inconsistent pitcher. He got a chance at the rotation after the All-Star break, and did as well as he had while relieving, so he’ll probably get another chance at it.
1996  If healthy, one of my favorite pitchers. Will, at some point, post five years of sub-3.00 ERAs. You heard it here first. Look for his Ks to jump up this year. The Pirates have one real strength: they're not ridiculously impatient with their young pitchers. That may not sound like much, but look around the league. In most organizations, a guy has eight good starts at AA, and he's in the rotation in August. The Pirates require at least nine, and understand the value of long relief, right Denny? Fantastic mechanics.

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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2014-08-06 16:30:00 (link to chat)Hey whats your guys deal anyways?
(Alex from Milwaukee)
We are two college students from DC who started a baseball blog. We specialize in the sillier side of the game, but we know a fair bit about the ins, outs, ups, and downs of the sport. Like did you know that Jim Abbott has two career hits and they were both off Jon Lieber in two different games that were three weeks apart? (Cespedes Family BBQ)
2008-01-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)The back end of the Cubs rotation... You have two duds (Marquis, Dempster), the aging prodigal son (Lieber) , the youngster in Lou's doghouse (Marshall), and the unproven guys (Gallagher, Kevin Hart, maybe even Neil Cotts or Samardjiza but unlikely). Who should win and who will win out the last two spots?
(Hank from Lincoln Park)
First, let's take Jeff Samardjiza out of the discussion. He's more likely to be the Bears' flanker next year than the Cubs' fifth starter. Out of that group, I actually sort of like Ryan Dempster, and I think Jon Lieber should be perfectly adequate. (Nate Silver)
2008-01-17 14:00:00 (link to chat)Is there any reason to be happy about having Jon Lieber vying for a spot in the Cubs rotation? Should I just be happy that the Cubs don't have to fret over saving the three million or so Lieber could earn this year? Cortisol leads to unsightly belly fat after all.
(Brian Gallagher from Evanston, IL)
I sort of touch on this in the TA that just went live--it'll still be there when we wrap up in a few hours ;) --but the nicest thing to say is that it gives them depth, and it might spare them from having to take the experiment of returning Ryan Dempster to a rotation all that far. My disappointment is that Lieber's upside is pretty minimal, and he's no more the right answer to that question over who starts a fourth game in a postseason than Marquis was (and is). (Christina Kahrl)


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PITCHf/x Pitcher Profile

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Although he has not thrown an MLB pitch in 2017, Jon Lieber threw 775 pitches that were tracked by the PITCHf/x system between 2007 and 2008, all of them occuring in the MLB Regular Season. In 2008, he relied primarily on his Slider (83mph) and Fourseam Fastball (88mph), also mixing in a Sinker (88mph). He also rarely threw a Change (83mph) and Curve (77mph).