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2014 Projections (Preseason PECOTA - seasonal age 37)
IP ERA WHIP SO W L SV WARP
36.0 4.14 1.40 37 2 1 6 0.1
Birth Date12-23-1976
Height6' 5"
Weight210 lbs
Age37 years, 9 months, 29 days
BatsR
ThrowsR
0.12010
0.32011
-0.02012
2013
0.12014
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WARP Summary

Standard

YEAR TEAM AGE G GS IP IP-SP IP-RP W L SV BS QS BQS PA H R ER HR TB BB UBB HBP SO ERA FIP FRA VORP WARP
2002 HOU 25 6 1 8.7 3.0 5.7 1 0 0 0 0 0 48 12 6 6 0 16 9 8 2 12 6.23 3.92 3.03 4.5 0.5
2003 HOU 26 78 0 85.0 0.0 85.0 6 3 1 5 0 0 349 60 36 34 6 96 42 35 5 97 3.60 3.27 3.45 17.6 1.7
2004 HOU 27 80 0 94.7 0.0 94.7 6 5 29 5 0 0 369 57 21 20 8 95 30 25 6 157 1.90 1.88 2.20 29.1 2.7
2005 HOU 28 70 0 70.7 0.0 70.7 4 4 42 4 0 0 291 58 21 18 5 84 23 22 3 103 2.29 2.10 2.61 20.5 2.1
2006 HOU 29 78 0 75.0 0.0 75.0 1 5 32 6 0 0 340 69 47 44 10 117 36 32 6 104 5.28 3.75 4.16 11.8 1.1
2007 HOU 30 66 0 67.0 0.0 67.0 5 3 19 8 0 0 287 54 29 25 9 101 30 26 4 88 3.36 3.82 4.19 9.6 0.9
2008 PHI 31 72 0 69.3 0.0 69.3 2 0 41 0 0 0 292 50 17 15 2 68 35 31 1 92 1.95 2.38 2.36 21.6 2.2
2009 PHI 32 67 0 58.7 0.0 58.7 0 8 31 11 0 0 283 72 51 47 11 123 34 31 5 61 7.21 5.41 5.59 -3.1 -0.3
2010 PHI 33 50 0 45.7 0.0 45.7 1 1 27 5 0 0 193 32 16 15 5 54 24 20 1 52 2.96 3.89 4.61 0.7 0.1
2011 PHI 34 25 0 19.3 0.0 19.3 0 2 1 0 0 0 86 16 3 3 0 20 13 10 1 23 1.40 2.79 2.71 3.2 0.3
2012 WAS 35 11 0 9.3 0.0 9.3 0 1 2 2 0 0 51 12 10 10 1 22 11 6 0 10 9.64 5.92 5.15 -0.1 -0.0
Career6031603.33.0600.326322254600258949225723757796287246347993.543.223.51115.411.3

Advanced

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
Minor league stats are currently shownClick to hide.
YEAR Team Lg G GS IP FRA FRA+ TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP PPF PVORP PWARP VORP WARP
1998 QUD A 4 4 11.0 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1999 KIS A+ 6 6 21.3 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2000 KIS A+ 8 8 41.7 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2001 ROU AA 5 5 26.0 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2002 HOU MLB 6 1 8.7 3.03 135 .317 .257 .322 .414 .255 .480 104 2.8 0.3 4.5 0.5
2002 ROU AA 5 0 11.0 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .391 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2002 NWO AAA 24 19 111.7 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .259 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2003 HOU MLB 78 0 85.0 3.45 129 .217 .268 .337 .436 .265 .271 104 18.1 1.8 17.6 1.7
2004 HOU MLB 80 0 94.7 2.20 150 .193 .266 .334 .429 .265 .292 94 29.4 2.9 29.1 2.7
2005 HOU MLB 70 0 70.7 2.61 141 .227 .268 .335 .431 .266 .338 98 20.5 2.1 20.5 2.1
2006 HOU MLB 78 0 75.0 4.16 110 .271 .271 .338 .432 .266 .321 95 11.8 1.1 11.8 1.1
2006 USA wor 2 0 2.0 0.00 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2007 HOU MLB 66 0 67.0 4.19 115 .240 .265 .333 .422 .259 .288 103 9.6 0.9 9.6 0.9
2007 CCH AA 1 1 1.0 4.06 117 .011 .272 .337 .439 .261 .000 106 0.5 0.0 0.5 0.0
2008 PHI MLB 72 0 69.3 2.36 149 .215 .271 .345 .433 .272 .296 99 21.6 2.2 21.6 2.2
2008 CLR A+ 1 1 1.0 10.21 -9 .487 .268 .346 .422 .271 .500 107 -0.4 -0.0 -0.4 -0.0
2009 PHI MLB 67 0 58.7 5.59 73 .314 .266 .338 .421 .267 .355 97 -3.1 -0.3 -3.1 -0.3
2009 CLR A+ 1 0 1.0 8.64 -2 .160 .291 .353 .424 .275 .000 105 -0.3 -0.0 -0.3 -0.0
2009 REA AA 1 1 1.0 -0.20 204 .226 .275 .351 .443 .285 .500 101 0.9 0.1 0.9 0.1
2010 PHI MLB 50 0 45.7 4.61 87 .230 .266 .335 .421 .275 .243 93 0.7 0.1 0.7 0.1
2010 CLR A+ 6 3 5.7 5.00 77 .236 .264 .331 .391 .271 .333 93 0.4 0.0 0.4 0.0
2010 REA AA 2 0 3.0 2.59 151 .195 .245 .295 .385 .245 .167 116 1.1 0.1 1.1 0.1
2010 LEH AAA 1 0 1.0 6.28 35 .137 .235 .320 .340 .240 .000 85 -0.2 -0.0 -0.2 -0.0
2011 PHI MLB 25 0 19.3 2.71 131 .242 .263 .322 .402 .266 .327 94 3.2 0.3 3.2 0.3
2011 LWD A 4 2 4.0 2.47 135 .221 .272 .335 .407 .266 .455 79 1.8 0.2 1.8 0.2
2011 REA AA 4 0 3.7 2.90 127 .233 .244 .315 .377 .262 .333 86 0.8 0.1 0.8 0.1
2012 WAS MLB 11 0 9.3 5.15 82 .332 .238 .307 .370 .250 .379 102 -0.1 -0.0 -0.1 -0.0
2012 POT A+ 2 1 1.3 4.82 102 .271 .262 .342 .404 .265 .667 103 0.6 0.1 0.6 0.1

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR GB% BABIP H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 WHIP ERA VORP WARP
1998 QUD A 0 1 0 4 4 11.0 10 5 6 0 0% .000 8.2 4.1 0.0 4.9 1.36 3.27 0.0 0.0
1999 KIS A+ 0 2 0 6 6 21.3 13 11 19 0 0% .000 5.5 4.6 0.0 8.0 1.13 3.38 0.0 0.0
2000 KIS A+ 2 1 0 8 8 41.7 28 15 46 3 0% .000 6.0 3.2 0.6 9.9 1.03 2.81 0.0 0.0
2001 ROU AA 2 0 0 5 5 26.0 21 7 42 1 0% .000 7.3 2.4 0.3 14.5 1.08 1.73 0.0 0.0
2002 HOU MLB 1 0 0 6 1 8.7 12 9 12 0 46% .480 12.5 9.3 0.0 12.5 2.42 6.23 4.5 0.5
2002 NWO AAA 5 5 0 24 19 111.7 83 47 110 9 0% .259 6.7 3.8 0.7 8.9 1.16 3.38 0.0 0.0
2002 ROU AA 1 1 0 5 0 11.0 9 3 18 0 0% .391 7.4 2.5 0.0 14.7 1.09 2.45 0.0 0.0
2003 HOU MLB 6 3 1 78 0 85.0 60 42 97 6 40% .271 6.4 4.4 0.6 10.3 1.20 3.60 17.6 1.7
2004 HOU MLB 6 5 29 80 0 94.7 57 30 157 8 35% .292 5.4 2.9 0.8 14.9 0.92 1.90 29.1 2.7
2005 HOU MLB 4 4 42 70 0 70.7 58 23 103 5 49% .338 7.4 2.9 0.6 13.1 1.15 2.29 20.5 2.1
2006 USA wor 1 0 1 2 0 2.0 0 3 2 0 0% .000 0.0 13.5 0.0 9.0 1.50 0.00 0.0 0.0
2006 HOU MLB 1 5 32 78 0 75.0 69 36 104 10 47% .321 8.3 4.3 1.2 12.5 1.40 5.28 11.8 1.1
2007 HOU MLB 5 3 19 66 0 67.0 54 30 88 9 45% .288 7.3 4.0 1.2 11.8 1.25 3.36 9.6 0.9
2007 CCH AA 0 0 0 1 1 1.0 0 0 0 0 0% .000 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.00 0.00 0.5 0.0
2008 CLR A+ 0 0 0 1 1 1.0 2 1 2 1 0% .500 18.0 9.0 9.0 18.0 3.00 9.00 -0.4 -0.0
2008 PHI MLB 2 0 41 72 0 69.3 50 35 92 2 48% .296 6.5 4.5 0.3 11.9 1.23 1.95 21.6 2.2
2009 REA AA 0 0 0 1 1 1.0 1 0 2 0 50% .500 9.0 0.0 0.0 18.0 1.00 0.00 0.9 0.1
2009 PHI MLB 0 8 31 67 0 58.7 72 34 61 11 41% .355 11.0 5.2 1.7 9.4 1.81 7.21 -3.1 -0.3
2009 CLR A+ 0 0 0 1 0 1.0 0 1 0 0 33% .000 0.0 9.0 0.0 0.0 1.00 0.00 -0.3 -0.0
2010 PHI MLB 1 1 27 50 0 45.7 32 24 52 5 40% .243 6.3 4.7 1.0 10.2 1.23 2.96 0.7 0.1
2010 LEH AAA 0 0 0 1 0 1.0 0 1 0 0 67% .000 0.0 9.0 0.0 0.0 1.00 0.00 -0.2 -0.0
2010 REA AA 0 0 0 2 0 3.0 1 1 4 0 50% .167 3.0 3.0 0.0 12.0 0.67 0.00 1.1 0.1
2010 CLR A+ 0 1 0 6 3 5.7 5 2 5 0 40% .333 7.9 3.2 0.0 7.9 1.23 7.89 0.4 0.0
2011 PHI MLB 0 2 1 25 0 19.3 16 13 23 0 57% .327 7.4 6.1 0.0 10.7 1.50 1.40 3.2 0.3
2011 REA AA 0 0 0 4 0 3.7 3 1 5 0 56% .333 7.4 2.5 0.0 12.3 1.09 4.91 0.8 0.1
2011 LWD A 0 0 0 4 2 4.0 5 0 5 0 64% .455 11.2 0.0 0.0 11.2 1.25 2.25 1.8 0.2
2012 POT A+ 0 1 0 2 1 1.3 2 1 3 0 67% .667 13.5 6.8 0.0 20.2 2.25 6.75 0.6 0.1
2012 WAS MLB 0 1 2 11 0 9.3 12 11 10 1 50% .379 11.6 10.6 1.0 9.6 2.46 9.64 -0.1 -0.0

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT
2008 1218 0.4631 0.4317 0.6419 0.5461 0.3318 0.7922 0.4286 0.3581
2009 1127 0.4445 0.4410 0.6841 0.5828 0.3275 0.8459 0.4537 0.3139
2010 794 0.4610 0.4181 0.7349 0.5656 0.2921 0.8454 0.5520 0.2651
2011 329 0.4286 0.4146 0.6103 0.5745 0.2926 0.7160 0.4545 0.3750
2012 188 0.4734 0.4309 0.7284 0.6067 0.2727 0.8519 0.4815 0.2469
Career36560.45430.430.67670.56730.31530.81650.46820.3201

Injury History

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2012-04-22 2012-06-07 15-DL 46 38 - Surgery Sports Hernia 2012-05-01 -
2011-03-25 2011-07-22 60-DL 119 97 Right Shoulder Strain Posterior Shoulder -
2011-03-09 2011-03-24 Camp 15 0 Right Shoulder Inflammation Long Head of Biceps Tendinitis -
2011-02-17 2011-02-27 Camp 10 0 General Medical Illness -
2010-09-07 2010-09-14 DTD 7 6 Right Elbow Soreness -
2010-05-10 2010-05-31 15-DL 21 18 Right Elbow Inflammation -
2010-03-26 2010-04-30 15-DL 35 21 Right Elbow Continued Recovery From Surgery Flexor Tendon and Loose Body 2009-11-11
2010-02-15 2010-03-26 Camp 39 0 Right Elbow Recovery From Surgery Flexor Tendon and Loose Body 2009-11-11
2010-01-13 2010-01-13 Off 0 0 Right Knee Surgery Loose Bodies 2010-01-13
2009-11-11 2009-11-11 Off 0 0 Right Elbow Surgery Flexor Tendon and Loose Body 2009-11-11
2009-09-06 2009-09-08 DTD 2 2 Right Hand Blister -
2009-06-07 2009-06-25 15-DL 18 15 Right Knee Inflammation Synovitis -
2009-04-26 2009-05-02 DTD 6 5 Right Knee Inflammation -
2009-02-20 2009-03-02 Camp 10 0 Right Forearm Tightness -
2008-08-09 2008-08-15 DTD 6 6 Right Shoulder Stiffness -
2008-03-21 2008-04-05 15-DL 15 4 Right Knee Surgery Meniscus 2008-02-25
2007-10-01 2007-10-01 Off 0 0 Right Knee Surgery Loose Bodies 2007-10-01
2007-06-16 2007-07-12 15-DL 26 22 Left Abdomen Strain Oblique -
2007-05-22 2007-05-29 DTD 7 6 Right Knee Contusion Femur Above Patella -
2005-06-25 2005-07-05 DTD 10 11 Right Upper Arm Strain Biceps -
2004-03-09 2004-03-16 Camp 7 0 Right Elbow Soreness -
2003-07-12 2003-07-12 DTD 0 0 Back Soreness -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2012 WAS $1,000,000
2011 PHI $12,000,000
2010 PHI $12,000,000
2009 PHI $12,000,000
2008 PHI $6,350,000
2007 HOU $5,350,000
2006 HOU $3,975,000
2005 HOU $500,000
2004 HOU $360,000
2003 HOU $300,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
10 yrPrevious$53,835,000
10 yrTotal$53,835,000

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
9 y 126 dJim Turner1 year/$1M (2012)

Details
  • 1 year/$1M (2012). Signed by Washington as a free agent 1/27/12. Performance bonuses based on appearances and games finished. Released by Washington 6/25/12. Retired 12/12.
  • 3 years/$37.5M (2009-11), plus 2012 club option. Signed extension with Philadelphia 7/6/08. $1.5M signing bonus. 09-11:$11.5M/year, 12:$12.5M club option, $1.5M buyout. 2012 option increases to $13M with 60 GF in 2011 or 110 GF in 2010-11. Performance and award bonuses.
  • 1 year/$6.35M (2008). Signed by Philadelphia 1/17/08 (avoided arbitration). Performance bonuses.
  • 1 year/$5.35M (2007). Re-signed by Houston 1/07 (avoided arbitration). Acquired by Philadelphia 11/7/07.
  • 1 year/$3.975M (2006). Re-signed by Houston 1/06 (avoided arbitration).
  • 1 year/$0.5M (2005). Re-signed by Houston 3/05.
  • 1 year/$0.36M (2004). Re-signed by Houston 3/04.
  • 1 year/$0.3M (2003). Re-signed by Houston 1/03.
  • 1 year (2002). Re-signed by Houston 2/02.
  • Drafted by Houston 1998 (1-17) (Notre Dame). $1.07M signing bonus.

2014 Preseason Forecast

Last Update: 3/11/2014 05:35 ET

PCT W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR BABIP WHIP ERA FRA VORP WARP
90o 3.4 1.5 9.7 62 0 54.6 39 21 57 4 .273 1.11 2.86 3.1 10.6 1.1
80o 2.9 1.2 8.3 54 0 48.0 37 20 50 4 .290 1.20 3.28 3.57 6.5 0.7
70o 2.6 1.1 7.3 49 0 43.4 36 20 45 4 .302 1.27 3.60 3.91 4.1 0.4
60o 2.3 0.9 6.5 45 0 39.5 34 19 41 4 .312 1.33 3.87 4.21 2.3 0.2
50o 2.1 0.8 5.9 41 0 36.0 32 18 38 4 .322 1.39 4.13 4.49 0.8 0.1
40o 1.8 0.7 5.2 37 0 32.6 31 17 34 3 .332 1.46 4.40 4.78 -0.4 -0.0
30o 1.6 0.6 4.6 33 0 29.1 29 16 30 3 .342 1.52 4.69 5.09 -1.5 -0.1
20o 1.4 0.5 3.8 28 0 25.1 26 14 26 3 .355 1.60 5.03 5.47 -2.4 -0.2
10o 1 0.3 2.9 22 0 19.7 22 12 21 2 .372 1.72 5.52 6.01 -3.2 -0.3
Weighted Mean20.85.840035.23117374.3191.384.094.441.00.1

Diagnostics

Breakout Rate Improve Rate Collapse Rate Attrition Rate MLB %
15% 40% 19% 5% 69%

Long-Term Forecast (Beyond the 2014 Projections)

Playing time estimates are based on performance, not Depth Charts.
Year Age W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR GB% BABIP WHIP ERA FRA H/9 BB/9 K/9 HR/9 WARP
20153831963056502957645.3171.414.294.678.04.79.21.00.2
20163931858051472651645.3181.434.494.888.34.69.01.10.0
20174031857051492648645.3241.474.675.088.64.68.51.1-0.1
20184131859052512649645.3261.484.635.038.84.58.51.0-0.0
20194231855049482445645.3261.484.695.108.94.48.31.1-0.1
20204321749043432239545.3271.504.765.178.94.68.11.0-0.1
20214431752046462341545.3281.514.785.199.14.58.11.0-0.1
20224521751045462239545.3291.514.855.279.24.47.81.0-0.2
20234621751045462238545.3281.514.845.269.24.47.61.0-0.2

Upside By Year

2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 PEAK 5
9.91.12.90.40.5out of baseball14.8

Comparable Players (Similarity Index 78)

Rank Score Name Year Run Average Trend
1 89 Mike DeJean 2008 0.00 DNP
2 87 Tim Byrdak 2011 4.54
3 86 Scott Eyre 2009 1.80
4 85 Paul Shuey 2008 0.00 DNP
5 85 Mike Remlinger 2003 3.91
6 84 John Hiller 1980 4.70
7 84 Steve Hamilton 1972 4.76
8 84 Dennis Cook 2000 5.34
9 84 Dan Plesac 1999 6.09
10 83 Billy Taylor 1999 5.59
11 83 Moe Drabowsky 1973 0.00 DNP
12 83 Tom Martin 2007 4.91
13 83 Jim Brewer 1975 3.99 DNP
14 82 Mark Guthrie 2003 2.95
15 82 Bill Henry 1965 3.45
16 82 Tippy Martinez 1987 0.00 DNP
17 81 Todd Worrell 1997 5.73
18 81 Dave Veres 2004 0.00 DNP
19 81 Eddie Guardado 2008 4.15
20 81 Stu Miller 1965 2.04
21 81 Todd Jones 2005 2.34
22 81 Larry Andersen 1990 2.16
23 81 Brendan Donnelly 2009 2.84
24 81 Dick Tidrow 1984 10.91
25 80 Alan Embree 2007 3.97
26 80 Kyle Farnsworth 2013 4.93
27 80 Juan Berenguer 1992 6.00
28 80 Steve Farr 1994 6.99
29 79 Jesse Orosco 1994 6.00
30 79 Barney Schultz 1964 2.55
31 79 Curtis Leskanic 2005 0.00 DNP
32 79 Tom Henke 1995 1.82
33 79 Norm Charlton 2000 27.00
34 79 Octavio Dotel 2011 3.83
35 79 Jeff Brantley 2001 5.14
36 78 Trever Miller 2010 4.50
37 78 Dave Smith 1992 2.51
38 78 Mike Stanton 2004 3.86
39 78 Dick Drago 1982 0.00 DNP
40 78 Ramon Hernandez 1978 0.00 DNP
41 78 Arthur Rhodes 2007 0.00 DNP
42 78 Jeff Montgomery 1999 7.19
43 78 Doug Bair 1987 5.93
44 77 Al Reyes 2008 4.76
45 77 Joe Hoerner 1974 3.82
46 77 Tom Gordon 2005 2.90
47 77 Aurelio Lopez 1986 3.58
48 77 Lee Smith 1995 3.47
49 77 Bobby Shantz 1963 3.18
50 77 John Franco 1998 3.90
51 77 Greg Swindell 2002 6.27
52 77 Darren Holmes 2003 4.71
53 77 Gary Lavelle 1986 0.00 DNP
54 77 Tony Fossas 1995 1.47
55 77 Tug McGraw 1982 4.54
56 77 Joey Eischen 2007 0.00 DNP
57 77 Doug Henry 2001 6.30
58 77 Jose Mesa 2003 6.83
59 76 Paul Assenmacher 1998 4.21
60 76 Alejandro Pena 1996 11.25
61 76 Lindy McDaniel 1973 2.98
62 76 Rich Gossage 1989 3.41
63 76 Roger Mason 1995 0.00 DNP
64 76 Mike Fetters 2002 4.91
65 76 Ron Villone 2007 4.25
66 76 Matt Herges 2007 3.33
67 75 Bill Campbell 1986 4.20
68 75 Hector Carrasco 2007 7.98
69 75 Hisanori Takahashi 2012 5.90
70 75 Tim Worrell 2005 5.55
71 75 Ron Mahay 2008 3.76
72 75 Jamie Walker 2009 5.84
73 75 Doug Jones 1994 2.33
74 75 Cal Eldred 2005 2.19
75 75 Don McMahon 1967 2.39
76 75 Steve Reed 2002 2.01
77 74 Tim Stoddard 1990 0.00 DNP
78 74 Mike Jackson 2002 3.27
79 74 Guillermo Mota 2011 3.81
80 74 Hoyt Wilhelm 1960 4.22
81 74 Greg Cadaret 1999 0.00 DNP
82 74 Trevor Hoffman 2005 3.59
83 74 Joe Borowski 2008 7.56
84 74 Joel Peralta 2013 3.91
85 74 Marv Grissom 1955 2.90
86 74 Turk Wendell 2004 7.02
87 74 Scott Sauerbeck 2009 0.00 DNP
88 73 Anthony Telford 2003 0.00 DNP
89 73 Ted Wilks 1953 9.82
90 73 Ryne Duren 1966 0.00 DNP
91 73 Ben Weber 2007 0.00 DNP
92 73 Jeff Reardon 1993 4.96
93 73 Giovanni Carrara 2005 4.16
94 73 Mike Marshall 1980 6.40
95 73 Tom Burgmeier 1981 3.47
96 73 Diego Segui 1975 5.20 DNP
97 73 Jeff Nelson 2004 6.08
98 73 Bob Patterson 1996 3.13
99 73 Chan Ho Park 2010 5.51
100 73 Yoshinori Tateyama 2013 0.00 DNP

Platoon

SORT_FIELD PLATOON AVG OBP SLG TAv

BP Annual Player Comments

YearComment
2012 Itís incredible just how many of the Philliesí recent multi-year deals for free-agent relievers have blown up in their faces. In terms of dollars wasted, Lidgeís contract was the worst. After his improbably bad 2009, he was only average when he was healthy in 2010 and 2011. Between injuries and a decline in performance, Lidge was a $5 million reliever getting paid $12 million a year, which meant his salary was costing the Phillies the equivalent of at least one more pitcher as good as he was. Once his fastball abandoned him, Lidge was left to live by his slider. It remains a good pitch, but few late-inning relievers get by throwing breaking pitches more than half the time. If the trend continues, heíll be out of baseball in a year or two. The Phillies declined his option, and he was a free agent as we went to press.
2011 From a results standpoint, it isnít hard to see why Lidge was miles ahead of his 2009 form last season. The change was patent: the slider was back in a big way. In Lidge's best years, the mid-90s fastball was just a way to set up the breaking ball, not the other way around. For the first time since 2008, Lidge would snap off a slider and the hitters would flinch. His fastball has lost a tick in the interim, so he will have to keep that crisp slider to maintain his results. Given how bad things were two yeas ago, an old age of unsexy closing isnít the least dignified exit he could have had.
2010 Although relief pitchers are a fickle breed, "regression" barely does justice to what happened to Lidge in 2009. His velocity fell for the second year in a row, giving hitters an extra instant to tell his fastball from his slider. His slider remains a strong pitch, but hitters could afford to lay off of it more often, instead waiting to pulp his fastball. He managed to post the worst WXRL of all time amongst relievers with 30 or more save opportunities. With two very expensive years left on his contract, you better believe that Charlie Manuel will use him as frequently as he did this past season, but Lidge will need to completely recover from injuries, change his approach, possibly add another pitch, or all of the above to get back to being an effective major-league pitcher. Otherwise, he's napalm by another name, infamously flammable in a rogue's gallery that already includes Mitch Williams and Jose Mesa.
2009 Can you really be Comeback Player of the Year for coming away from a team that didn't know what it was doing? To some extent, what went Lidge's way was that a surprising number of his fly balls didn't hit the seats, where normally, you might have expected it. Everything else was the same or slightly better, but he wasn't hit-lucky, he was homer-lucky, despite moving from one bandbox to another. Maybe that's all it takes, leaving the scene of the much-belabored Pujols poke, and maybe that's what sells (fewer and fewer) newspapers. Given that Lidge never became ineffective as much as he had to deal with a few especially spazzy superiors in Houston, it looks like the proverbial change of scenery doing a player good, and not so much a "comeback" as a successful escape. It was a very good year, good enough to rank 18th-best on the all-time WXRL list. It also ranked behind all three years of Eric Gagne's 2002-04 run, Keith Foulke's big 2000óand his own first season as the Astros' closer in 2004.
2008 As expected, Lidge bounced back from his poor 2006 to be one of the best relievers in the game again last year. The thing is, his rates have shown very little variation over the past three seasons seen above. His BABIP allowed dropped 30 points last year, all of which went to his ERA, but he didn't actually pitch much differently in 2006 than in the two stronger years surrounding it. Dealt to Philadelphia, Lidge will find his new home park no more forgiving of his fly-ball tendencies than Minute Maid was.
2007 The joke goes that the ball Albert Pujols hit off Brad Lidge in the 2005 NLCS still hasn`t landed. If so, it appears to have taken Lidge`s confidence along for the ride. Sabermetric orthodoxy would suggest that anyone can close, but Lidge never seemed to recover from that shot to the ego, flailing in the closer role last year. For those looking for a physical explanation for his poor showing, Lidge has a long history of arm and specifically elbow issues (as a starter in the low minors, he appeared in just 19 games from 1999 to 2001) owing to his violent mechanics. His struggles with his control last year just might be a portent of another date with the surgeon`s table.
2006 Lidge is being pilloried for his postseason failures more than he should be because Albert Pujols is just that good. He has tremendous power and control, a healthy shoulder, a slider that righties lose sleep over, and there`s no team in baseball that wouldn`t love to have him. Don`t believe the backlash: Lidge is a complete and utter badass and could put up numbers in 2006 that would make Goose Gossage proud.
2005 Lidge was important to the Astros not just for the quality of his pitching, but because his performance enabled the team to trade Octavio Dotel for Carlos Beltran, a deal that fell just short of putting them in the World Series. He's not young; remember that he basically lost three years to arm problems, making just 19 appearances from 1999 through 2001. If recent history is a guide, he'll pitch another three months at his 2004 level, then regress just a bit.
2003 If youíve ever owned a Jaguar XKE with the V-12, you understand the hope and despair associated with a cranky, high-performance piece of machinery. The organization coddled Lidge through 131.1 innings last year, a total that exceeded his previous four professional seasons combined. Lidgeís extreme brittleness prevents him from carrying a starterís workload or recovering quickly enough to survive Williamsís typical reliever usage. Itís worth creating a unique role for his hard fastball and untouchable slider: regularly scheduled multi-inning relief appearances. Lidge could prepare for them like a start and they also would give his overworked bullpen mates needed days off. Donít bet on it happening.
2002 Health problems have been a consistent issue for Lidge, as heís missed most of the past three seasons. Last year, it was shoulder problems that required surgery. Although he can deal in the mid-90s, heís had to change his throwing motion, and he dropped his curve for a slider. Nothing has helped keep him healthy. Lidge is a prospect in the same way that Jeff DíAmico (the big one on the Brewers) is a Cy Young candidate, but heís talented enough to become an outstanding reliever someday.
2001 Unlike Ireland, Brad Lidge has no problem keeping his innings down. That's because the former #1 pick has suffered a number of injuries. What makes his health record so frustrating to the Astros is how well heís pitched when heís able to take the mound (just 14 times the last two seasons). He was healthy enough to pitch in the AFL briefly and handled himself well for someone who has yet to pitch above A-ball. He definitely knows how to pitch and could be the Jeff DíAmico of 2003. Of course, that would mean he missed most of 2001 and 2002.

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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2013-04-16 20:00:00 (link to chat)How do I value Addison Reed if I just started a dynasty rebuild? I know closers should be the first thing to go in a rebuild, but I can't help but believe he's relatively stable and likely to help me when I compete again in 2-3 years. Thanks
(JoeTinker from Chicago)
Here is a list of all closers who recorded 25 or more saves in 2010: Brian Wilson (48), Heath Bell (47), Rafael Soriano (45), Joakim Soria (43), Matt Capps (42), Neftali Feliz (40), Francisco Cordero (40), Carlos Marmol (38), Billy Wagner (37), Jonathan Papelbon (37), Kevin Gregg (37), Mariano Rivera (33), David Aardsma (31), Juan Oviedo (30), Bobby Jenks (27), Ryan Franklin (27), Brad Lidge (27), Jose Valverde (26), Francisco Rodriguez (25) and Andrew Bailey (25). (Bret Sayre)
2011-09-26 13:00:00 (link to chat)Mike, Any intention to write a followup to your list of "don'ts" with PITCHf/x? (Especially highlighting don't use per pitch actual run values?)
(Dan Turkenkopf from Saratoga Springs, NY)
Dan's referring to this piece that I wrote at the Hardball Times:
The Internet cried a little when you wrote that on it

I don't have a follow-up piece planned. It's always less rewarding, at least initially, to write about things other people are doing wrong. I do feel like the Internet Cried piece has served as a good reference, though.

I agree with your concern about how actual per-pitch run values are used. The problem with me writing anything about that is that I don't think we know enough about how game theory really operates in baseball in the pitcher-batter confrontation. Sky Andrecheck had a great piece on that at Baseball Analysts before the Indians hired him. Someone else, whose name escapes me at the moment, did some theoretical work on Brad Lidge and slider/fastball usage. But we really know so little about how game theory in fact operates that we don't know if actual pitch run values are close to being true or complete fiction or where on the continuum in between those two poles.

My biggest peeve with PITCHf/x usage continues to be people that latch onto changes of a couple inches in pitch movement as being significant for a pitcher without examining the likely confounding factors in the data. (Mike Fast)
2011-02-02 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hello Ben Who gets more saves this year, Brad Lidge or Evan Meek? Thanks
(Ed from Cranford, NJ)
Lidge. Joel Hanrahan still seems to have the upper hand in Pittsburgh. (Ben Lindbergh)
2010-05-24 14:00:00 (link to chat)Is Brad Lidge finished as a closer? And do you see Contreras holding the gig for the rest of the year?
(tommybones from brooklyn)
I'm not a big believer in whatever Lidge has left. In the meantime, I like the idea of going with Contreras, which isn't to say I think they shouldn't be looking at other White Sox. Contreras still throws hard, and there's something about his deliberate pacing (some might say tedious) which seems like he'll never get carried away or rattle. (Christina Kahrl)
2010-05-19 13:00:00 (link to chat)Brad Lidge - toast or pop-tart?
(Ratcatcher from RTP)
Im curious to watch this one. The idea that they were going to Synvisc his elbow tells me that they know what's going on and that it's a grinding. I still think he can be effective, but I'm curious how they'll maintain him and at what level he can be maintained. (Will Carroll)
2010-03-30 13:00:00 (link to chat)What about Ramos for a first rate reliever? And why wouldn't the Phils deal for a real closer? I can't imagine they aren't completely sick of the 9th inning craptacular being front page news all season again.
(tommybones from brooklyn)
If he has another good year, he becomes a major trading chip. Using that up on a reliever of any kind seems like a waste to me.

Just keep in mind, Brad Lidge has been down before and gotten back up. I don't think they've given up on him, and given that they didn't want to spend $9 for Cliff Lee, I'm not surprised they're not willing to spend it on a reliever. (Shawn Hoffman)
2009-12-29 15:00:00 (link to chat)Which teams do feel could regress significantly this season? Are the Phillies a prime candidate?
(Bryan from MA)
This could be a bad year in Orange County, where the Angels look to be much worse and the competition much better. The Phillies' floor is around 85 wins in non-degenerate cases; too much talent too close to its prime. I'll be curious to see how they handle the bullpen, however; it was a real problem all season long, and there's no telling if Brad Lidge will improve. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-11-24 13:00:00 (link to chat)If the Reds were shopping Cordero, how much salary would they need to pick up to receive anything of value in return? It seems like he'd be a great fit in either bullpen in NY -- or possibly Philly.
(Rick from Chicago)
Think of it this way - if Brandon Lyon, who has similar skills, could be had for $4.25 mil or so without costing major league talent in a trade, then the Reds would likely have to eat $8-9 mil to make a deal like that worthwhile. Of course, if Lyon-esque relievers are snagged and a desperate team needs bullpen help the Reds could always offer to pay 1/3 of his salary and get away with it. But the Phillies, currently paying Brad Lidge $12 mil/yr, are not likely to acquire another high-priced relief arm. And the Yankees have a great pen without much need for Cordero. (Eric Seidman)
2009-11-02 15:00:00 (link to chat)Would you put Lidge's abandonment of his slider last night among the all-time postseason brain cramps?
(Ted from Milwaukee)
Do I blame Brad Lidge, or the guy who doubled the ERA of the pitcher on the mound with an unnecessary pitching change? It's not like Lidge has had complete control of his slider, or that this was news. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-10-07 14:30:00 (link to chat)Which playoff team has the largest single weakness, and do you see it being the reason it gets eliminated?
(dtwhite from Toronto)
Phillies bullpen if Charlie Manuel insists on calling Brad Lidge's number.

As I write this the Phils are putting together a rally with a Werth walk, an Ibanez double, a Ruiz single and a horrible Hawpe misplay. They now lead 2-0, so we may get a chance to see my theory tested today. (Jay Jaffe)
2009-09-24 14:00:00 (link to chat)What are the Phillies to do for a closer?
(ted from media,pa)
Let's ask the bigger question: what are the Phillies to do for a bullpen? The focus on Brad Lidge in the ninth--and he looked terrible last night, seemingly unaware of where his slider would go and unwilling to use the fastball--has hidden the issue that there aren't very many good pitchers in that pen. Madson is a good pitcher, but then...Chad Durbin? Really? Will they get Eyre or Romero back, and if not, is Sergio Escalona now a key guy? I'm not sure the Phillies can get to four good relievers, and that's assuming Pedro Martinez slides into a multi-inning role. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-08-13 13:00:00 (link to chat)Speaking of sentimentality, what to do about Brad Lidge?
(bflaff from Philadelphia, PA)
You just can't have a closer giving up two home runs per nine innings. It could be a really heartbreaking postseason if the Phillies make it. Unfortunately, their alternatives aren't great. Madson, maybe? Saving him for the ninth would open up a pretty big hole in the middle. (Steven Goldman)
2009-06-15 13:00:00 (link to chat)Should we expect inconsistency from Brad Lidge all season, or will letting him heal a few weeks get him on track?
(Jim from Portland)
They're taking the chance that Madson can buy him the rest he needs to get the knee right. If you follow football, think Brian Westbrook '06. (Will Carroll)
2009-06-08 14:00:00 (link to chat)Joe, did you underrate the Phillies (not surprising), or are they playing over their heads? Even with a month and a half's worth of awful starting pitching, they have the 2nd best run differential in the NL (4th in all of baseball), and are a couple bad Brad Lidge appearances from sweeping both the Yankees and Dodgers on the road. Are they going to come down to Earth and meet your prediction or are they serious WS contenders again?
(Taco from Philly)
The Phillies will be tomorrow's PT, as they start a big series with the Mets. I'll be out at Shea tomorrow night, because I was too dumb to realize it was draft day. (I draw Johan, though, so it's OK.) There's a lot of guys over their heads--Ruiz, Utley, Feliz, Ibanez, Condrey, Happ--so my sense is that they won't keep up this pace, because the offense is coming back to earth and I don't see the pitching, Hamels aside, covering that return. They clearly could win the East or the wild card, which makes them serious WS contenders. I'd still take the Mets, although with the Braves' inability to surround their core with major leaguers, I'm questioning my preference for them. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-10-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)I don't have a strong interest in either World Series team. Can you outline some reasons to root for each team?
(Andy from Gettysburg College)
Well, first, you can root for the baseball season to last seven more games instead of the minimum four. Second, there are good storylines here, some of which are kind of obvious, such as the 1969 Mets-like rise of the Rays. The Phillies are also a generally downtrodden franchise with a whole bunch of fun players like Chase Utley, Ryan Howard, Jimmy Rollins, Cole Hamels, and Brad Lidge. (Steven Goldman)
2008-09-23 13:30:00 (link to chat)Brad Lidge '08: product of an absurd home run rate or something else? Or maybe Pujols stopped calling him in the middle of the night and breathing the words, "Game 5, Game 5."
(LaMarque from Brooklyn)
Yeah, the HR rate thing. Also, he was never as bad as people made him out to be, and I don't think he was affected mentally as much as was presumed. He just lost his command for a while. He'll be well above average, if not this good, for a few years. When he's bad, though, he's tough to watch, because it's all game-winning HRs. (Joe Sheehan)


BP Roundtables

DateRoundtable NameComment
2010-10-06 10:00:002010 Playoffs Day OneUh oh, a leadoff walk off Feliz! Cue the predictions of closers whose careers "ended" because of post-season mishaps. George Foster! Byung-Hyun Kim! Brad Lidge! Oh, wait... (Christina Kahrl)
2010-04-05 09:30:00Season Opener RoundtablePapelbon? Brad Lidge in even-numbered years? (Russell A. Carleton)
2009-10-12 15:00:00Phillies/Rockies Playoffs RoundtableSo the best closer in the post-season has been Brad Lidge? (Kevin Goldstein)
2009-10-12 15:00:00Phillies/Rockies Playoffs RoundtableDid Brad Lidge steal Ryan Madson's jersey? (William Burke)
2008-10-22 16:30:00World Series Game OneNot my line, but maybe tomorrow night the Rays hitters could try going up there against Brad Lidge wearing Albert Pujols masks. (Ben Murphy)
2008-10-13 17:00:00NLCS Game FourAs best as I can tell, Brad Lidge hasn't been asked to get a four-out save since July 6, 2006. He's been used in a variety of roles since then, but I think that's the last time a manager brought him into a save situation in the eighth with the intention of leaving him in for the ninth.
(Joe Sheehan)
2008-10-13 17:00:00NLCS Game Four"Mike (Chicago): So is tonight the night Brad Lidge turns human? Be a shame to waste the Matt Stairs homerun. forget I said anything... "

Mostly doing that because I'm curious about how many people will be on PHI-->ORD flights tomorrow morning should it happen...
(Joe Sheehan)
 

PITCHf/x Pitcher Profile

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Although he has not thrown an MLB pitch in 2014, Brad Lidge threw 4,439 pitches that were tracked by the PITCHf/x system between 2007 and 2012, including pitches thrown in the MLB Regular Season, the MLB Postseason and Spring Training. In 2012, he relied primarily on his Slider (82mph) and Fourseam Fastball (91mph).