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Career Summary
Years PA AVG OBP SLG TAv WARP
16 9066 .286 .343 .398 .257 32.7
Birth Date8-7-1976
Height6' 1"
Weight200 lbs
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WARP Summary

Standard

YEAR TEAM AGE G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR TB BB SO HBP SF SH RBI SB CS AVG OBP SLG TAv VORP FRAA WARP
1996 FLO 19 106 471 431 68 133 18 3 5 172 33 68 2 3 2 31 16 2 .309 .358 .399 .257 23.1 7.8 2.9
1997 FLO 20 154 691 617 90 171 21 3 4 210 45 108 4 6 19 52 32 15 .277 .327 .340 .237 13.1 -8.1 0.5
1998 FLO 21 133 580 517 79 146 18 2 3 177 48 78 4 2 9 31 41 22 .282 .347 .342 .246 14.7 -6.8 0.8
1999 SLN 22 154 653 585 92 161 36 2 11 234 53 82 2 7 6 63 37 8 .275 .334 .400 .249 21.1 -6.9 1.3
2000 SLN 23 150 643 562 94 156 32 1 16 238 63 77 1 9 8 76 21 13 .278 .346 .423 .259 28.1 -1.1 2.5
2001 SLN 24 141 549 493 54 128 19 3 10 183 39 73 3 6 8 57 17 4 .260 .314 .371 .237 8.8 4.9 1.3
2002 SLN 25 152 609 544 77 166 36 2 11 239 49 57 4 5 7 83 22 7 .305 .364 .439 .280 36.9 0.8 3.8
2003 SLN 26 157 663 587 96 194 47 1 13 282 65 54 1 7 3 100 34 7 .330 .394 .480 .295 57.1 3.2 6.0
2004 SLN 27 149 642 586 84 168 37 0 10 235 39 78 1 10 6 72 17 11 .287 .327 .401 .258 30.3 -11.9 1.8
2005 BOS 28 153 692 623 100 172 36 4 8 240 55 100 3 5 6 70 9 4 .276 .335 .385 .249 18.9 -12.2 0.7
2006 ATL 29 149 673 598 100 175 40 2 14 261 62 89 3 2 8 70 17 6 .293 .361 .436 .282 45.4 -0.6 4.4
2007 ATL 30 124 543 494 87 164 30 1 12 232 46 77 1 0 2 57 11 2 .332 .390 .470 .287 41.3 -0.8 4.0
2008 DET 31 138 547 503 69 136 22 2 10 192 37 64 0 5 2 55 6 3 .270 .317 .382 .246 12.1 -1.7 1.0
2009 SFN 32 124 510 460 50 115 19 1 5 151 39 69 1 5 5 48 7 2 .250 .307 .328 .224 6.6 -1.7 0.5
2010 SFN 33 72 267 243 26 67 11 2 3 91 21 43 0 1 2 22 3 0 .276 .332 .374 .251 8.0 -2.1 0.6
2011 CIN 34 96 333 299 34 75 14 0 5 104 24 65 1 3 6 36 4 2 .251 .306 .348 .244 4.4 0.7 0.5
Career215290668142120023274362914032417181182317699923294108.286.343.398.257369.9-36.732.7

Advanced

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg G PA TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP BPF BRAA repLVL POS_ADJ FRAA BRR BVORP BWARP VORP WARP
1993 KNC A 116 428 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .261 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1994 BRV A+ 128 478 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .288 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1995 PME AA 135 558 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .330 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1996 FLO MLB 106 471 .257 .260 .324 .407 .251 .355 99 -1.7 14.6 6.7 7.8 2.4 23.1 2.9 23.1 2.9
1996 CHR AAA 35 143 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .304 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1997 FLO MLB 154 691 .237 .264 .330 .413 .258 .327 98 -17.3 18.4 9.4 -8.1 3.3 13.1 0.5 13.1 0.5
1998 FLO MLB 133 580 .246 .263 .328 .412 .258 .326 95 -8.8 15.1 7.9 -6.8 0.5 14.7 0.8 14.7 0.8
1999 SLN MLB 154 653 .249 .269 .337 .428 .258 .301 100 -8.5 17.7 9.3 -6.9 3.2 21.1 1.3 21.1 1.3
2000 SLN MLB 150 643 .259 .270 .345 .439 .263 .293 104 -0.9 17.7 9.3 -1.1 0.9 28.1 2.5 28.1 2.5
2001 SLN MLB 141 549 .237 .264 .329 .429 .259 .284 100 -14 14.8 7.4 4.9 1.4 8.8 1.3 8.8 1.3
2002 SLN MLB 152 609 .280 .262 .331 .417 .260 .322 99 12.7 15.5 8 0.8 1.7 36.9 3.8 36.9 3.8
2003 SLN MLB 157 663 .295 .265 .334 .423 .261 .343 101 25.6 17.5 9 3.2 5.9 57.1 6.0 57.1 6.0
2004 SLN MLB 149 642 .258 .264 .331 .425 .264 .311 94 -1.4 19.1 8.8 -11.9 0.7 30.3 1.8 30.3 1.8
2005 BOS MLB 153 692 .249 .263 .328 .418 .261 .315 106 -8.5 19.9 9.1 -12.2 1.0 18.9 0.7 18.9 0.7
2006 ATL MLB 149 673 .282 .271 .337 .443 .269 .324 94 16.4 20.3 9.2 -0.6 1.3 45.4 4.4 45.4 4.4
2007 ATL MLB 124 543 .287 .268 .334 .427 .261 .375 101 16.4 16.1 7.4 -0.8 4.1 41.3 4.0 41.3 4.0
2008 DET MLB 138 547 .246 .264 .331 .416 .260 .290 104 -8.4 15.8 7.3 -1.7 -1.8 12.1 1.0 12.1 1.0
2009 SFN MLB 124 510 .224 .263 .329 .413 .262 .281 92 -19.5 14.7 6.7 -1.7 2.6 6.6 0.5 6.6 0.5
2010 SFN MLB 72 267 .251 .252 .316 .394 .263 .323 90 -2.4 7.4 3.3 -2.1 -0.8 8.0 0.6 8.0 0.6
2010 FRE AAA 2 6 .557 .275 .339 .475 .296 .750 93 2 0.2 0.1 0.2 -0.6 1.7 0.2 1.7 0.2
2011 CIN MLB 96 333 .244 .257 .320 .400 .262 .302 103 -5.4 9.0 3.9 0.7 -0.3 4.4 0.5 4.4 0.5
2012 COL int 3 12 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .333 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG ISO TAv VORP FRAA WARP
1993 KNC A 428 40 78 8 0 1 35 35 94 7 8 .203 .266 .232 .029 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1994 BRV A+ 478 46 111 15 1 0 36 35 56 6 11 .253 .307 .292 .039 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1995 PME AA 558 70 147 15 7 7 68 32 85 30 11 .289 .329 .388 .098 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1996 CHR AAA 143 17 37 8 0 2 16 9 17 10 4 .280 .322 .386 .106 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1996 FLO MLB 471 68 133 18 3 5 31 33 68 16 2 .309 .358 .399 .090 .257 23.1 7.8 2.9
1997 FLO MLB 691 90 171 21 3 4 52 45 108 32 15 .277 .327 .340 .063 .237 13.1 -8.1 0.5
1998 FLO MLB 580 79 146 18 2 3 31 48 78 41 22 .282 .347 .342 .060 .246 14.7 -6.8 0.8
1999 SLN MLB 653 92 161 36 2 11 63 53 82 37 8 .275 .334 .400 .125 .249 21.1 -6.9 1.3
2000 SLN MLB 643 94 156 32 1 16 76 63 77 21 13 .278 .346 .423 .146 .259 28.1 -1.1 2.5
2001 SLN MLB 549 54 128 19 3 10 57 39 73 17 4 .260 .314 .371 .112 .237 8.8 4.9 1.3
2002 SLN MLB 609 77 166 36 2 11 83 49 57 22 7 .305 .364 .439 .134 .280 36.9 0.8 3.8
2003 SLN MLB 663 96 194 47 1 13 100 65 54 34 7 .330 .394 .480 .150 .295 57.1 3.2 6.0
2004 SLN MLB 642 84 168 37 0 10 72 39 78 17 11 .287 .327 .401 .114 .258 30.3 -11.9 1.8
2005 BOS MLB 692 100 172 36 4 8 70 55 100 9 4 .276 .335 .385 .109 .249 18.9 -12.2 0.7
2006 ATL MLB 673 100 175 40 2 14 70 62 89 17 6 .293 .361 .436 .144 .282 45.4 -0.6 4.4
2007 ATL MLB 543 87 164 30 1 12 57 46 77 11 2 .332 .390 .470 .138 .287 41.3 -0.8 4.0
2008 DET MLB 547 69 136 22 2 10 55 37 64 6 3 .270 .317 .382 .111 .246 12.1 -1.7 1.0
2009 SFN MLB 510 50 115 19 1 5 48 39 69 7 2 .250 .307 .328 .078 .224 6.6 -1.7 0.5
2010 FRE AAA 6 2 3 0 0 0 3 2 0 0 0 .750 .833 .750 .000 .557 1.7 0.2 0.2
2010 SFN MLB 267 26 67 11 2 3 22 21 43 3 0 .276 .332 .374 .099 .251 8.0 -2.1 0.6
2011 CIN MLB 333 34 75 14 0 5 36 24 65 4 2 .251 .306 .348 .097 .244 4.4 0.7 0.5
2012 COL int 12 3 3 0 0 0 1 1 2 0 0 .273 .333 .273 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT
2008 1944 0.5334 0.4915 0.8597 0.6442 0.3164 0.9042 0.7561 0.1393
2009 1882 0.5037 0.4571 0.8508 0.6308 0.2784 0.8946 0.7500 0.1480
2010 1013 0.5350 0.4531 0.8039 0.6236 0.2569 0.8639 0.6364 0.1961
2011 1293 0.5058 0.4414 0.7944 0.5979 0.2786 0.8491 0.6742 0.2056
Career61320.51870.4640.8340.62690.28690.8830.71720.1653

Injury History

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2011-08-17 2011-08-20 DTD 3 3 Left Groin Strain - -
2011-07-08 2011-07-08 DTD 0 0 Left Arm Contusion HBP - -
2011-06-02 2011-06-09 DTD 7 7 Low Back Stiffness -
2010-10-18 2010-10-18 DTD 0 0 Left Shoulder Strain Torn Biceps Tendon -
2010-09-18 2010-10-01 DTD 13 11 Elbow Soreness -
2010-08-11 2010-09-01 15-DL 21 19 Left Upper Arm Strain Biceps -
2010-05-26 2010-06-16 15-DL 21 20 Right Thigh Strain Hamstring -
2010-05-07 2010-05-22 15-DL 15 14 Groin Strain -
2010-05-01 2010-05-06 DTD 5 4 Right Groin Tightness -
2010-04-21 2010-04-24 DTD 3 2 Left Shoulder Soreness -
2009-09-17 2009-10-04 DTD 17 15 Right Elbow Surgery Bone Chips 2009-09-26
2009-09-13 2009-09-16 On-Alr 3 3 Left Shoulder Sprain AC Joint - Bothering Him 4 Months -
2009-09-13 2009-09-16 On-Alr 3 3 Right Elbow Inflammation Bone Chips -
2009-09-13 2009-09-16 On-Alr 3 3 Left Shoulder Inflammation Biceps Tendinitis -
2009-09-13 2009-09-16 DTD 3 3 General Medical Fatigue -
2009-07-22 2009-07-25 DTD 3 3 Right Elbow Inflammation Cortisone Injection -
2009-05-15 2009-05-22 DTD 7 6 Right Thigh Strain Hamstring -
2009-04-28 2009-04-29 DTD 1 1 Groin Soreness -
2009-03-29 2009-04-01 Camp 3 0 Right Elbow Tightness -
2008-09-29 2008-09-30 DTD 1 1 Left Chest Soreness Pectoral Muscle -
2008-09-25 2008-09-27 DTD 2 2 Left Chest Strain Pectoral Muscle -
2008-09-15 2008-09-17 DTD 2 2 Chest Contusion -
2008-07-10 2008-07-17 DTD 7 4 Left Thigh Strain Hamstring -
2008-06-13 2008-06-14 DTD 1 1 Left Chest Soreness Pectoral Muscle -
2008-03-19 2008-03-23 Camp 4 0 Low Back Soreness -
2008-03-10 2008-03-11 Camp 1 0 Arm Soreness -
2007-08-23 2007-09-07 15-DL 15 13 Right Ankle Sprain High Ankle -
2007-08-03 2007-08-22 15-DL 19 17 Right Ankle Sprain High Ankle -
2007-06-11 2007-06-13 DTD 2 1 Left Hand Contusion HBP -
2007-05-09 2007-05-11 DTD 2 2 General Medical Respiratory Flu -
2007-05-07 2007-05-08 DTD 1 1 General Medical Respiratory Flu -
2006-09-09 2006-09-10 DTD 1 1 General Medical Illness Fever -
2006-04-16 2006-04-28 DTD 12 9 Trunk Strain Rib Cage -
2005-09-16 2005-09-16 DTD 0 0 Left Elbow Contusion HBP -
2005-05-06 2005-05-09 DTD 3 3 Right Fingers Contusion Index Finger HBP -
2004-06-08 2004-06-09 DTD 1 1 General Medical Gastrointestinal GI -
2004-05-14 2004-05-15 DTD 1 1 Low Back Spasms -
2004-05-11 2004-05-11 DTD 0 0 Low Back Spasms -
2003-08-25 2003-08-27 DTD 2 1 Low Back Soreness -
2003-06-17 2003-06-17 DTD 0 0 Low Back Soreness -
1998-08-25 1998-09-09 15-DL 15 14 Right Knee Contusion Sliding - -
1996-06-25 1996-07-11 15-DL 16 12 Right Thigh Strain Hamstring - -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2011 CIN $2,100,000
2010 SFN $10,000,000
2009 SFN $8,000,000
2008 DET $10,000,000
2007 ATL $9,000,000
2006 ATL $9,000,000
2005 BOS $8,000,000
2004 SLN $7,250,000
2003 SLN $6,500,000
2002 SLN $6,000,000
2001 SLN $4,500,000
2000 SLN $2,250,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
12 yrPrevious$82,600,000
12 yrTotal$82,600,000

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
15 y 143 dBarry Meister1 year/$2.1M (2011)

Details
  • 1 year/$2.1M (2011). Signed by Cincinnati as a free agent 1/7/11. $0.9M in performance bonuses.
  • 2 years/$18.5M (2009-10), plus 2011 club option. Signed by San Francisco as a free agent 12/3/08. $2M signing bonus, 09:$7M, 10:$9M, 11:$10.5M club option, $0.5M buyout. SF declined 2009 option 10/30/08.
  • 4 years/$40M (2005-08), plus 2009 club option. Signed by Boston as a free agent 12/04. $4M signing bonus (pro-rated 2005-08). 05:$7M, 06:$8M, 07:$9M, 08:$9M, 09:$11M club option, $3M buyout (buyout partially deferred). Acquired by Atlanta in trade from Boston 12/05 (Boston pays $8M of $26M salary left). Acquired by Detroit in trade from Atlanta 10/29/07. Detroit declined 2009 option 10/08.
  • 4 years/$20M (2000-03), plus 2004, 2005 options. Signed extension with St. Louis 2/00 (avoided arbitration, $3.8M-$2.7M). 00:$2.25M, 01:$4.5M, 02:$6M, 03:$6.5M, 04:$6.5M club option, $0.75M buyout, 05:$6.5M club option. Award bonus: $50,000 for All-Star. 2004-05 options may increase to $7.5M each. St. Louis voided 2005 option with delay in exercising 2004 option.
  • 1 year/$1.95M (1999). Re-signed by St. Louis 2/99 (avoided arbitration, $2.45M-$1.75M). May earn additional $50,000 in performance bonuses.
  • 1 year/$0.255M (1998). Re-signed by Florida. Acquired by St. Louis in trade from Florida 12/98.
  • 1 year/$0.1095M (1997). Re-signed by Florida.
  • 1 year/$0.1095M (1996). Re-signed by Florida.
  • Signed by Florida 1992 as an amateur free agent from Colombia.

2014 Preseason Forecast

Last Update: 3/11/2014 05:35 ET

PCT PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG TAv VORP FRAA WARP
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Diagnostics

Breakout Rate Improve Rate Collapse Rate Attrition Rate MLB %
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Comparable Players (Similarity Index )

Rank Score Name Year TAv Trend

BP Annual Player Comments

YearComment
2012 Signing Renteria to balance Janish's leather with some pop at the plate might have sounded nice in the abstract, but he proved to be just another component from the 2010 Giants ready to turn into a pumpkin. It's possible he might cling to a career Omar Vizquel-style, but it just as easily could be the end; to move into the O-zone you have to have elder statesman cred and an automatic saving throw on charisma. In another time and place, Renteria would have been a Hall of Famer, if he'd had Frankie Frisch for a teammate; instead, he'll have to settle for two rings and a brief heyday as the best shortstop in the NL at the height of the steroid era. If there's anything to feel genuinely badly about, it's Renteria's finishing second to Todd Hollandsworth in Rookie of the Year voting in '96, an utter travesty at the time, even setting aside that expected future value is not a criterion.
2011 Renteria looked like the oldest 33-year-old in baseball in 2010, probably because his actual age is somewhere between 35 and 40ówe'll never know unless they cut him open and count the rings. His list of ailments over his two Giants seasons is too extensive to recap here; his three stints on the disabled list in 2010 alone added up to 57 days missed. That doesnít include his various day-to-day issues, including nearly two weeks surrendered to a sore elbow down the stretch. Over the seasonís final three months, he hit just .224/.281/.334 in 135 PA and didnít attempt a stolen base. That circumstance made him the Giantsí starting shortstop in the World Series, and that he came through, winning Series MVP honors, seemed like a nice career bookend to the aging (or aged) infielder off into retirement, but as is too often the case, it merely convinced Renteria that still has something to offer. He doesnít.
2010 A return to the NL was supposed to involve a return to previous standards of success, but Renteria instead wound up playing through pain in his right elbow and later both shoulders before having surgery on the elbow. Whatever the impact, his power dropped to levels he hasn't been at in more than a decade, this after he'd already lost the running game as a significant part of his production before he turned 30. Add in his ranking among MLB's 10 worst for hitting into twin killings via BP's NetDP stat, and differing opinions on whatever defensive value he has left, and what's left? Two years ago, he was closing in on 2000 hits and was a 37 percent bet to achieve 3000 according to Bill James; two of the worst seasons of his career later, and any value he'll have past a 2010 season the Giants will have to pay $9.5 million for (also buying out an $10.5 million option for 2011) seems increasingly speculative.
2009 C'mon, you really didn't think he'd hit .332 again, did you? (Yes, we'll keep going to the well on that line, because let's face it, how much Tiger-related wishcasting were so many batting average-driven fancies?) Unlike Ordonez and Polanco, Renteria did not simply return to his normal production, he took an actual total nosedive, having what was the worst season of his career once one factors in his rapidly declining defense. The Giants surprised a lot of people by giving him $18.5 million for the next two years, but we've all but given up on trying to figure out what the Giants are doing of late.
2008 If you thought Hall of Fame voters dodged a bullet when Harold Baines retired with 2,866 hits, wait a few years. Edgar Renteria made his major league debut three months before his 21st birthday, has been a regular ever since, and will pick up his 2000th hit sometime in June, or just after he turns 32. That doesn't mean he'll get to 3000, but his chances are real; the 2008 Bill James Handbook gives him a 37 percent shot at the milestone. It's not like Renteria is a scrub-his career WARP3 will edge over 70 this year-he's just not anyone's idea of even a fringe Hall of Famer. The Tigers are better for having him, but not by that much; he's only a marginally better defender than Carlos Guillen, though he is likely to out-hit Sean Casey.
2007 One of the rare shortstops whose bat carries his glove instead of the other way around, Renteria posted his best EqA since 2003 upon returning to the NL, which must have been something of a relief for the Braves who gambled that his weak showings with the stick in back-to-back seasons didn`t signal that he was no longer an asset at the position. Renty made a broad-based return to excellence, kicking his walk rate back up, knocking southpaws around, showing power away from the unfriendly Ted, and improving his stolen base efficiency. Still, he regressed in the second half, batting .264/.318/.404 after the break, even weaker than the combined .281/.331/.393 clip that got him run out of St. Louis and Boston in consecutive years. Renteria is signed through 2008, and the Braves are only on the hook for part of his salary, but it`s entirely possible that the organization will soon see him as a player its rebuilding movement must overcome rather than embrace.
2006 Well, that didn`t really work out, now did it? Inked to a four-year, $40 million deal last winter, the Red Sox hoped that his 2002-2003 gains were real, but he has now had consecutive mediocre seasons at the plate. He also had a dreadful year in the field, leading the majors with 30 errors while showing little range. The Red Sox gave up seven wins just at this single position. The Braves are hoping that he can return to his old form. The Red Sox figured it was not going to happen in Boston and wisely cut bait.
2005 His platoon issues are overstated, but so is his defensive prowess. The Red Sox inked him for four years and $40 million. If that was the going rate, the Cardinals were wise to pass on him. Renteria's had his moments of brilliance, but his lone MVP-caliber season (in 2003) is beginning to look more and more aberrant. Someone like Julio Lugo will provide infinitely more value on the dollar.
2003 Just as thereís lingering doubt about how old Pujols is, thereís still some wondering if Renteria isnít really a year younger than advertised. Good luck getting anyone from the í97 Marlins to talk about it, however. Regardless, the good news is that Renteria put up another campaign to remind everyone that while he briefly slipped into A-Gonz territory for part of one season, the gains he made in the second half of 2001 were more descriptive, and heís still one of the best shortstops in the National League.
2002 When we compared him to Edgardo Alfonzo, it was because we thought Renteria would get better, not because Alfonzo would get worse. Renteria stumbled through a wretched first half, looking completely lost at the plate with a newly elongated swing and no apparent approach. After the All-Star break, he tightened up his stroke and hit fairly well, posting a .283/.341/.413. He's still young and has a couple of years to avoid the dreaded Alex Gonzalez career pathóor the even worse Brent Gates career path.
2001 The next superstar. Edgar Renteria is ready to completely explode on the league, and he'll do so in a season in which the Cardinals are having enough success to draw national media attention. Three of us (Rany Jazayerli, a friend in a Scoresheet Baseball league, and I) each independently came up with the most fitting analog for Renteria: the Mets' Edgardo Alfonzo. Alfonzo started in the Mets' system at shortstop, so let's do a quick age comparison:

Edgardo AlfonzoAVG/ OBP/ SLGEdgar RenteriaAVG/ OBP /SLG
Age 22.261/.304/.345Age 22.282/.347/.342
Age 23.315/.391/.432Age 23.275/.334/.400
Age 24.278/.355/.427Age 24.278/.346/.423


It's not perfect, but those Age 24 lines are nearly identical. If reports are correct that Renteria's age has been overstated by a year, he's even further ahead of the game. At age 25, Alfonzo busted out, posting a .304/.385/.502 year in a bad hitters' park. Renteria probably won't do that, but I expect him to smack 55 to 60 extra base hits, hit 25 home runs, and draw 75 walks a year starting in about 2003.
2000 Picking up Renteria was brilliant: ideally, you want to get young players just about to enter the best years of their careers, because they'll not only help the team right now, but into the future. His improved power is more than just getting out of the thick air of the Miami swamplands. He's slowly entering what should be at least a very good five- or six-year stretch, and that's without considering that he's probably a year younger than listed here. Good comparisons would be Barry Larkin or Alan Trammell: the power should keep getting better; he'll take a few more walks and have a shot at an MVP award someday. While he isn't an ideal leadoff man, the Cardinals don't have many alternatives.
1999 As Iíve pointed out, I wouldnít move him to around the infield or out of town to make room for Alex Gonzalez. He is not going to become a free agent early because of the questions about his actual birth date. The Marlins signed him at 15 while claiming to not know it (wink, wink).
1998 Just for the record: his listed birthdate is still early by a year. Heís a full year younger than Alex Rodriguez, which gives you some idea as to his potential as a hitter as well as a fielder. He is clearly a better fielder than either Rodriguez or Derek Jeter, and in a weak year for NL shortstops, was a more deserving Gold Glove candidate than Rey Ordonez. Still learning with the bat and it may be two or three years before he hits with authority, but heís not that much worse a hitter than Robin Yount or Alan Trammell were at the same age.
1997 Will probably never hit 40 home runs. Thatís about the only limitation I would put on him. His age listed above is his official one, but itís generally accepted now that the Marlins pulled a fast one and had him claim he was a year older than he was so they could legally sign him. A fabulous shortstop; he, not Ordonez, will probably follow Barry Larkin on the list of Gold Glove winners. Between Jeter, Rodriguez and Renteria, the 2000s could be for shortstops what the 1950s were for center fielders.
1996  Still a long way from being a major league hitter, but he's just 20 years old, has shown consistent improvement over the last two years, and plays, by all accounts, terrific defense. He needs to work on his plate discipline, but in a year or two he figures to move Kurt Abbott to third base or to another team entirely.

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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2011-01-12 13:00:00 (link to chat)True or False: Walt Jocketty was smart to avoid the inefficient middle of the FA market and add complimentary pieces at budget friendly prices? Was it enough?
(RMR from Chicago)
I kind of buy that. I guess there was no reality in which they were going to bid on Carl Crawford, someone who would have been a nice fit in place of the Jonny Gomes/Chris Heisey/Fred Lewish mash-up that is now slated for left field. Edgar Renteria makes me nervous, the kind of guy Dusty Baker could lead off/give far too much playing time to. Not that I thought Paul Janish was the answer, but I was very curious what Zack Cozart might do at some point this year. (Steven Goldman)
2010-12-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)Edgar Renteria characterized a $1 million offer to be a terrible hitter off the bench as "total disrespect." Can you break down for us how big of an offer would be partial disrespect (say, 50% disrespect), and perhaps what Renteria should actually be worth on the open market?
(Total disrespect from San Francisco)
It was disrespectful. I mean, he hit a home run off of Cliff Lee without a friggin' bicep, and all they could do was offer him one million. The nerve of... I lost my straight face. Got pretty far though, right? Total disrespect would be $1 million. Partial disrespect would be $3 million + incentives worth $1.5 million. Respect would be $7 million with incentives. Unfortunately for Renteria, if that defines respect, he does not deserve respect this year. (Eric Seidman)
2010-11-09 14:00:00 (link to chat)Starlin Castro (2010) = Edgar Renteria (1996). You buying that comp?
(Scrapper from Chicago)
No. Hate it, actually. I don't think Castro stays at SS long-term, first of all. Plus Castro will turn into more of an offensive player with some power. Bad, bad comp. (Kevin Goldstein)
2010-12-02 13:00:00 (link to chat)What type of ceiling do you see for Starlin Castro?
(Matt from Chicago)
In a few years heíll be able to afford whatever type of ceiling he wants Ė tin, mahogany, mother-of-pearl, his choice. Heís not going to develop Hanley-esque power, wonít steal plenty of bases, and isnít a superlative shortstop. However, the kid can flat-out hit, and should maintain enough of an average to keep his OBP acceptable. In this day and age, when Cesar Izturis still has a job and Ryan Theriot is viewed as a SS upgrade by a contender, heís got a well-rounded skill-set that will soon be worth millions. Peak of Edgar Renteria, maybe? (Ken Funck)
2010-08-17 14:45:00 (link to chat)Posey, Huff, Torres, after Molina, Renteria, and Sandoval recently. When will I get credit for my offensive prowess and not just derided for my oopsies?
(Brian Sabean from San Francisco)
Are you suggesting that you deserve credit for signing Bengie Molina and Edgar Renteria? Because if so, you just answered your own question. (Eric Seidman)
2009-09-17 14:00:00 (link to chat)I know you weren't quite as high on Elvis Andrus coming into the 2009 season as some other folks were, seeing him as a future Edgar Renteria rather than a future star -- has his performance this year changed your mind any?
(Adam J. Morris from Houston, TX)
No. Renteria actually had a better year at 20, but then dropped off a bit. I think they're very similar players really. Andrus w/ more speed, Renteria with a more refine approach. (Kevin Goldstein)
2009-07-15 14:00:00 (link to chat)What's a reasonable comp for Alcides Escobar?
(MkeFan from Milwaukee)
I had a scout throw out a Edgar Renteria comp recently, which I didn't hate. (Kevin Goldstein)
2009-04-06 13:00:00 (link to chat)How will the giants do this season. thanks
(Trevor from austin TX)
They'll be within a few games of .500 either way. If Barry Zito regains even his 2006-07 form, they could be in the wild-card race into September. They also have a lot of veterans, like Edgar Renteria, Aaron Rowand and Randy Winn, who if they tick upwards would push them into a race. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-07-29 16:00:00 (link to chat)How about Edgar Renteria and Ivan Rodriguez for Dan Wheeler and another arm?
(havybeaks from Michigan)
Doesn't seem to fill a need for the Rays. (Will Carroll)
2008-07-17 13:00:00 (link to chat)Marc, Edgar Renteria's stinking up my team, giving me near replacement level production. Given his track record and what I coughed up to get him, do I pick up his option for 09 or what?
(Dave D. from Detroit)
Absolutely not. You find yourself a shortstop, but don't get sucked into a Julio Lugo trade. As much as I'd love to drop Lugo on an unsuspecting customer, it's not nice to play mean tricks on others. (Marc Normandin)


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