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| YEAR | TEAM | AGE | G | GS | IP | IP-SP | IP-RP | W | L | SV | BS | QS | BQS | PA | H | R | ER | HR | TB | BB | UBB | HBP | SO | ERA | FIP | FRA | VORP | WARP |
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| 1995 | NYA | 25 | 19 | 10 | 67.0 | 50.0 | 17.0 | 5 | 3 | 0 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 301 | 71 | 43 | 41 | 11 | 118 | 30 | 30 | 2 | 51 | 5.51 | 5.19 | 5.52 | 6.1 | 0.6 |
| 1996 | NYA | 26 | 61 | 0 | 107.7 | 0.0 | 107.7 | 8 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 425 | 73 | 25 | 25 | 1 | 88 | 34 | 31 | 2 | 130 | 2.09 | 1.96 | 1.84 | 48.2 | 4.6 |
| 1997 | NYA | 27 | 66 | 0 | 71.7 | 0.0 | 71.7 | 6 | 4 | 43 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 301 | 65 | 17 | 15 | 5 | 93 | 20 | 14 | 0 | 68 | 1.88 | 2.99 | 2.63 | 20.7 | 2.0 |
| 1998 | NYA | 28 | 54 | 0 | 61.3 | 0.0 | 61.3 | 3 | 0 | 36 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 246 | 48 | 13 | 13 | 3 | 69 | 17 | 16 | 1 | 36 | 1.91 | 3.56 | 3.59 | 12.7 | 1.2 |
| 1999 | NYA | 29 | 66 | 0 | 69.0 | 0.0 | 69.0 | 4 | 3 | 45 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 268 | 43 | 15 | 14 | 2 | 58 | 18 | 15 | 3 | 52 | 1.83 | 2.99 | 3.69 | 14.9 | 1.4 |
| 2000 | NYA | 30 | 66 | 0 | 75.7 | 0.0 | 75.7 | 7 | 4 | 36 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 311 | 58 | 26 | 24 | 4 | 82 | 25 | 22 | 0 | 58 | 2.85 | 3.37 | 4.00 | 13.7 | 1.3 |
| 2001 | NYA | 31 | 71 | 0 | 80.7 | 0.0 | 80.7 | 4 | 6 | 50 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 310 | 61 | 24 | 21 | 5 | 80 | 12 | 10 | 1 | 83 | 2.34 | 2.33 | 3.45 | 17.2 | 1.7 |
| 2002 | NYA | 32 | 45 | 0 | 46.0 | 0.0 | 46.0 | 1 | 4 | 28 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 187 | 35 | 16 | 14 | 3 | 49 | 11 | 9 | 2 | 41 | 2.74 | 2.97 | 3.09 | 11.6 | 1.2 |
| 2003 | NYA | 33 | 64 | 0 | 70.7 | 0.0 | 70.7 | 5 | 2 | 40 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 277 | 61 | 15 | 13 | 3 | 78 | 10 | 9 | 4 | 63 | 1.66 | 2.46 | 2.87 | 19.7 | 2.0 |
| 2004 | NYA | 34 | 74 | 0 | 78.7 | 0.0 | 78.7 | 4 | 2 | 53 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 316 | 65 | 17 | 17 | 3 | 81 | 20 | 17 | 5 | 66 | 1.94 | 2.93 | 3.21 | 20.8 | 2.0 |
| 2005 | NYA | 35 | 71 | 0 | 78.3 | 0.0 | 78.3 | 7 | 4 | 43 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 306 | 50 | 18 | 12 | 2 | 65 | 18 | 18 | 4 | 80 | 1.38 | 2.18 | 2.99 | 21.4 | 2.2 |
| 2006 | NYA | 36 | 63 | 0 | 75.0 | 0.0 | 75.0 | 5 | 5 | 34 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 293 | 61 | 16 | 15 | 3 | 79 | 11 | 7 | 5 | 55 | 1.80 | 2.88 | 3.30 | 19.4 | 2.1 |
| 2007 | NYA | 37 | 67 | 0 | 71.3 | 0.0 | 71.3 | 3 | 4 | 30 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 295 | 68 | 25 | 25 | 4 | 96 | 12 | 10 | 6 | 74 | 3.15 | 2.72 | 2.90 | 21.1 | 2.1 |
| 2008 | NYA | 38 | 64 | 0 | 70.7 | 0.0 | 70.7 | 6 | 5 | 39 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 259 | 41 | 11 | 11 | 4 | 58 | 6 | 6 | 2 | 77 | 1.40 | 2.06 | 2.51 | 21.7 | 2.2 |
| 2009 | NYA | 39 | 66 | 0 | 66.3 | 0.0 | 66.3 | 3 | 3 | 44 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 257 | 48 | 14 | 13 | 7 | 76 | 12 | 11 | 1 | 72 | 1.76 | 2.93 | 3.21 | 16.7 | 2.0 |
| 2010 | NYA | 40 | 61 | 0 | 60.0 | 0.0 | 60.0 | 3 | 3 | 33 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 230 | 39 | 14 | 12 | 2 | 54 | 11 | 8 | 5 | 45 | 1.80 | 2.78 | 4.09 | 8.1 | 1.1 |
| 2011 | NYA | 41 | 64 | 0 | 61.3 | 0.0 | 61.3 | 1 | 2 | 44 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 233 | 47 | 13 | 13 | 3 | 63 | 8 | 6 | 2 | 60 | 1.91 | 2.23 | 2.95 | 14.5 | 1.5 |
| 2012 | NYA | 42 | 9 | 0 | 8.3 | 0.0 | 8.3 | 1 | 1 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 32 | 6 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 9 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 8 | 2.16 | 1.85 | 2.14 | 2.3 | 0.2 |
| 2013 | NYA | 43 | 19 | 0 | 18.3 | 0.0 | 18.3 | 0 | 0 | 17 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 70 | 14 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 20 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 14 | 1.47 | 2.79 | 2.97 | 3.5 | 0.4 |
| Career | 1070 | 10 | 1238.0 | 50.0 | 1188.0 | 76 | 58 | 625 | 75 | 3 | 0 | 4917 | 954 | 327 | 303 | 66 | 1316 | 279 | 241 | 46 | 1133 | 2.20 | 2.80 | 3.22 | 314.3 | 31.8 | ||
| YEAR | Team | Lg | G | GS | IP | FRA | FRA+ | TAv | oppAVG | oppOBP | oppSLG | oppTAv | BABIP | PPF | PVORP | PWARP | VORP | WARP |
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| 1991 | GRB | A | 29 | 15 | 114.7 | 0.00 | 0 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
| 1992 | FTL | A+ | 10 | 10 | 59.3 | 0.00 | 0 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
| 1993 | GRB | A | 10 | 10 | 39.3 | 0.00 | 0 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
| 1994 | TAM | A+ | 7 | 7 | 36.7 | 0.00 | 0 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
| 1994 | ABY | AA | 9 | 9 | 63.3 | 0.00 | 0 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
| 1994 | COH | AAA | 6 | 6 | 31.0 | 0.00 | 0 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
| 1995 | NYA | MLB | 19 | 10 | 67.0 | 5.52 | 93 | .270 | .280 | .354 | .448 | .277 | .290 | 101 | 6.1 | 0.6 | 6.1 | 0.6 |
| 1995 | COH | AAA | 7 | 7 | 30.0 | 0.00 | 0 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
| 1996 | NYA | MLB | 61 | 0 | 107.7 | 1.84 | 166 | .179 | .284 | .359 | .467 | .278 | .279 | 101 | 48.2 | 4.6 | 48.2 | 4.6 |
| 1997 | NYA | MLB | 66 | 0 | 71.7 | 2.63 | 145 | .230 | .277 | .346 | .442 | .270 | .288 | 96 | 20.7 | 2.0 | 20.7 | 2.0 |
| 1998 | NYA | MLB | 54 | 0 | 61.3 | 3.59 | 126 | .209 | .275 | .343 | .439 | .270 | .238 | 95 | 12.7 | 1.2 | 12.7 | 1.2 |
| 1999 | NYA | MLB | 66 | 0 | 69.0 | 3.69 | 128 | .174 | .283 | .360 | .459 | .276 | .212 | 97 | 14.9 | 1.4 | 14.9 | 1.4 |
| 2000 | NYA | MLB | 66 | 0 | 75.7 | 4.00 | 119 | .203 | .283 | .356 | .466 | .274 | .241 | 93 | 13.7 | 1.3 | 13.7 | 1.3 |
| 2001 | NYA | MLB | 71 | 0 | 80.7 | 3.45 | 126 | .186 | .270 | .338 | .436 | .268 | .268 | 95 | 17.2 | 1.7 | 17.2 | 1.7 |
| 2002 | NYA | MLB | 45 | 0 | 46.0 | 3.09 | 134 | .211 | .263 | .332 | .432 | .267 | .246 | 96 | 11.6 | 1.2 | 11.6 | 1.2 |
| 2003 | NYA | MLB | 64 | 0 | 70.7 | 2.87 | 141 | .211 | .275 | .339 | .447 | .271 | .294 | 98 | 19.7 | 2.0 | 19.7 | 2.0 |
| 2004 | NYA | MLB | 74 | 0 | 78.7 | 3.21 | 135 | .201 | .280 | .348 | .449 | .271 | .279 | 98 | 20.8 | 2.0 | 20.8 | 2.0 |
| 2005 | NYA | MLB | 71 | 0 | 78.3 | 2.99 | 138 | .183 | .277 | .337 | .444 | .271 | .238 | 101 | 21.4 | 2.2 | 21.4 | 2.2 |
| 2006 | NYA | MLB | 63 | 0 | 75.0 | 3.30 | 133 | .195 | .282 | .348 | .458 | .274 | .265 | 100 | 18.4 | 1.8 | 19.4 | 2.1 |
| 2007 | NYA | MLB | 67 | 0 | 71.3 | 2.90 | 142 | .223 | .272 | .340 | .426 | .265 | .323 | 103 | 21.1 | 2.1 | 21.1 | 2.1 |
| 2008 | NYA | MLB | 64 | 0 | 70.7 | 2.51 | 148 | .156 | .271 | .340 | .433 | .271 | .218 | 102 | 21.7 | 2.2 | 21.7 | 2.2 |
| 2009 | NYA | MLB | 66 | 0 | 66.3 | 3.21 | 136 | .190 | .275 | .345 | .443 | .275 | .248 | 104 | 15.7 | 1.6 | 16.7 | 2.0 |
| 2010 | NYA | MLB | 61 | 0 | 60.0 | 4.09 | 114 | .177 | .268 | .334 | .429 | .273 | .222 | 106 | 8.7 | 0.9 | 8.1 | 1.1 |
| 2011 | NYA | MLB | 64 | 0 | 61.3 | 2.95 | 137 | .195 | .264 | .328 | .422 | .270 | .275 | 105 | 14.5 | 1.5 | 14.5 | 1.5 |
| 2012 | NYA | MLB | 9 | 0 | 8.3 | 2.14 | 153 | .203 | .252 | .322 | .412 | .265 | .273 | 104 | 2.3 | 0.2 | 2.3 | 0.2 |
| 2013 | NYA | MLB | 19 | 0 | 18.3 | 2.97 | 137 | .191 | .257 | .318 | .430 | .267 | .250 | 106 | 3.5 | 0.4 | 3.5 | 0.4 |
| Career | MLB | 10 | 1238.0 | 3.22 | 134 | .200 | .275 | .344 | .444 | .272 | .262 | 100 | 312.6 | 30.8 | 314.1 | 31.7 | ||
| Year | Team | Lg | W | L | SV | G | GS | IP | H | BB | SO | HR | GB% | BABIP | H/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | K/9 | WHIP | ERA | VORP | WARP |
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| 1991 | GRB | A | 4 | 9 | 0 | 29 | 15 | 114.7 | 103 | 36 | 123 | 2 | 0% | .000 | 8.1 | 2.8 | 0.2 | 9.7 | 1.21 | 2.75 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 1992 | FTL | A+ | 5 | 3 | 0 | 10 | 10 | 59.3 | 40 | 5 | 42 | 5 | 0% | .000 | 6.1 | 0.8 | 0.8 | 6.4 | 0.76 | 2.28 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 1993 | GRB | A | 1 | 0 | 0 | 10 | 10 | 39.3 | 31 | 15 | 32 | 0 | 0% | .000 | 7.1 | 3.4 | 0.0 | 7.3 | 1.17 | 2.06 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 1994 | COH | AAA | 4 | 2 | 0 | 6 | 6 | 31.0 | 34 | 10 | 23 | 5 | 0% | .000 | 9.9 | 2.9 | 1.5 | 6.7 | 1.42 | 5.81 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 1994 | ABY | AA | 3 | 0 | 0 | 9 | 9 | 63.3 | 58 | 8 | 39 | 5 | 0% | .000 | 8.2 | 1.1 | 0.7 | 5.5 | 1.04 | 2.27 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 1994 | TAM | A+ | 3 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 7 | 36.7 | 34 | 12 | 27 | 2 | 0% | .000 | 8.3 | 2.9 | 0.5 | 6.6 | 1.25 | 2.21 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 1995 | COH | AAA | 2 | 2 | 0 | 7 | 7 | 30.0 | 25 | 3 | 30 | 2 | 0% | .000 | 7.5 | 0.9 | 0.6 | 9.0 | 0.93 | 2.10 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| 1995 | NYA | MLB | 5 | 3 | 0 | 19 | 10 | 67.0 | 71 | 30 | 51 | 11 | 33% | .290 | 9.5 | 4.0 | 1.5 | 6.9 | 1.51 | 5.51 | 6.1 | 0.6 |
| 1996 | NYA | MLB | 8 | 3 | 5 | 61 | 0 | 107.7 | 73 | 34 | 130 | 1 | 41% | .279 | 6.1 | 2.8 | 0.1 | 10.9 | 0.99 | 2.09 | 48.2 | 4.6 |
| 1997 | NYA | MLB | 6 | 4 | 43 | 66 | 0 | 71.7 | 65 | 20 | 68 | 5 | 44% | .288 | 8.2 | 2.5 | 0.6 | 8.5 | 1.19 | 1.88 | 20.7 | 2.0 |
| 1998 | NYA | MLB | 3 | 0 | 36 | 54 | 0 | 61.3 | 48 | 17 | 36 | 3 | 51% | .238 | 7.0 | 2.5 | 0.4 | 5.3 | 1.06 | 1.91 | 12.7 | 1.2 |
| 1999 | NYA | MLB | 4 | 3 | 45 | 66 | 0 | 69.0 | 43 | 18 | 52 | 2 | 58% | .212 | 5.6 | 2.3 | 0.3 | 6.8 | 0.88 | 1.83 | 14.9 | 1.4 |
| 2000 | NYA | MLB | 7 | 4 | 36 | 66 | 0 | 75.7 | 58 | 25 | 58 | 4 | 53% | .241 | 6.9 | 3.0 | 0.5 | 6.9 | 1.10 | 2.85 | 13.7 | 1.3 |
| 2001 | NYA | MLB | 4 | 6 | 50 | 71 | 0 | 80.7 | 61 | 12 | 83 | 5 | 66% | .268 | 6.8 | 1.3 | 0.6 | 9.3 | 0.90 | 2.34 | 17.2 | 1.7 |
| 2002 | NYA | MLB | 1 | 4 | 28 | 45 | 0 | 46.0 | 35 | 11 | 41 | 3 | 54% | .246 | 6.8 | 2.2 | 0.6 | 8.0 | 1.00 | 2.74 | 11.6 | 1.2 |
| 2003 | NYA | MLB | 5 | 2 | 40 | 64 | 0 | 70.7 | 61 | 10 | 63 | 3 | 58% | .294 | 7.8 | 1.3 | 0.4 | 8.0 | 1.00 | 1.66 | 19.7 | 2.0 |
| 2004 | NYA | MLB | 4 | 2 | 53 | 74 | 0 | 78.7 | 65 | 20 | 66 | 3 | 63% | .279 | 7.4 | 2.3 | 0.3 | 7.6 | 1.08 | 1.94 | 20.8 | 2.0 |
| 2005 | NYA | MLB | 7 | 4 | 43 | 71 | 0 | 78.3 | 50 | 18 | 80 | 2 | 56% | .238 | 5.7 | 2.1 | 0.2 | 9.2 | 0.87 | 1.38 | 21.4 | 2.2 |
| 2006 | NYA | MLB | 5 | 5 | 34 | 63 | 0 | 75.0 | 61 | 11 | 55 | 3 | 58% | .265 | 7.3 | 1.3 | 0.4 | 6.6 | 0.96 | 1.80 | 19.4 | 2.1 |
| 2007 | NYA | MLB | 3 | 4 | 30 | 67 | 0 | 71.3 | 68 | 12 | 74 | 4 | 53% | .323 | 8.6 | 1.5 | 0.5 | 9.3 | 1.12 | 3.15 | 21.1 | 2.1 |
| 2008 | NYA | MLB | 6 | 5 | 39 | 64 | 0 | 70.7 | 41 | 6 | 77 | 4 | 55% | .218 | 5.2 | 0.8 | 0.5 | 9.8 | 0.67 | 1.40 | 21.7 | 2.2 |
| 2009 | NYA | MLB | 3 | 3 | 44 | 66 | 0 | 66.3 | 48 | 12 | 72 | 7 | 53% | .248 | 6.5 | 1.6 | 0.9 | 9.8 | 0.90 | 1.76 | 16.7 | 2.0 |
| 2010 | NYA | MLB | 3 | 3 | 33 | 61 | 0 | 60.0 | 39 | 11 | 45 | 2 | 52% | .222 | 5.8 | 1.6 | 0.3 | 6.8 | 0.83 | 1.80 | 8.1 | 1.1 |
| 2011 | NYA | MLB | 1 | 2 | 44 | 64 | 0 | 61.3 | 47 | 8 | 60 | 3 | 48% | .275 | 6.9 | 1.2 | 0.4 | 8.8 | 0.90 | 1.91 | 14.5 | 1.5 |
| 2012 | NYA | MLB | 1 | 1 | 5 | 9 | 0 | 8.3 | 6 | 2 | 8 | 0 | 45% | .273 | 6.5 | 2.2 | 0.0 | 8.6 | 0.96 | 2.16 | 2.3 | 0.2 |
| 2013 | NYA | MLB | 0 | 0 | 17 | 19 | 0 | 18.3 | 14 | 2 | 14 | 1 | 40% | .250 | 6.9 | 1.0 | 0.5 | 6.9 | 0.87 | 1.47 | 3.5 | 0.4 |
| Date On | Date Off | Transaction | Days | Games | Side | Body Part | Injury | Severity | Surgery Date | Reaggravation |
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| 2012-05-04 | 2012-10-19 | 60-DL | 168 | 0 | Right | Knee | Surgery | ACL and Meniscus | 2012-06-12 | - |
| 2011-07-04 | 2011-07-09 | DTD | 5 | 4 | Right | Upper Arm | Soreness | Triceps | - | |
| 2010-05-01 | 2010-05-12 | DTD | 11 | 9 | Left | Trunk | Soreness | Side | - | |
| 2009-09-02 | 2009-09-07 | DTD | 5 | 5 | Left | Groin | Soreness | - | ||
| 2009-08-12 | 2009-08-14 | DTD | 2 | 2 | Right | Shoulder | Inflammation | - | ||
| 2008-10-07 | 2009-03-17 | Off | 161 | 0 | Right | Shoulder | Surgery | Calcification | 2008-10-07 | |
| 2008-09-24 | 2008-09-28 | DTD | 4 | 3 | Right | Shoulder | Soreness | - | ||
| 2008-08-02 | 2008-08-06 | DTD | 4 | 4 | Back | Spasms | - | |||
| 2006-09-01 | 2006-09-22 | DTD | 21 | 20 | Right | Elbow | Strain | - | ||
| 2006-05-31 | 2006-06-05 | DTD | 5 | 5 | Low Back | Spasms | - | |||
| 2005-04-22 | 2005-04-30 | DTD | 8 | 7 | General Medical | Illness | - | |||
| 2005-03-15 | 2005-03-31 | Camp | 16 | 0 | Right | Elbow | Inflammation | Bursitis | - | |
| 2004-06-10 | 2004-06-12 | DTD | 2 | 2 | Back | Stiffness | - | |||
| 2003-07-11 | 2003-07-11 | DTD | 0 | 0 | Right | Ankle | Contusion | Batted Ball | - | |
| 2003-03-30 | 2003-04-29 | 15-DL | 30 | 25 | Right | Groin | Strain | - | ||
| 2002-08-18 | 2002-09-20 | 15-DL | 33 | 31 | Right | Shoulder | Strain | - | ||
| 2002-07-21 | 2002-08-08 | 15-DL | 18 | 15 | Right | Shoulder | Strain | - | ||
| 2002-06-10 | 2002-06-25 | 15-DL | 15 | 12 | Right | Groin | Strain | - | ||
| 1998-04-06 | 1998-04-24 | 15-DL | 18 | 13 | Right | Groin | Strain | - | - |
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| 2012-01-09 13:00:00 | Jay, With regards to Edgar Martinez, why do writers continue to back the DH as position but hold it against a player for the HOF? Is it similar to closers where over time voters will come around? (asstarr1 from Madison, WI) | As I said before, intellectual consistency isn't the forte of the voting body, and there still aren't a ton of voters who are receptive to advanced metrics.
I do think some of the resistance to Edgar comes from the fact that a) his career got a late start due to the Mariners' silliness; and b) he had three Hall of Fame-caliber teammates in Ken Griffey Jr., Alex Rodriguez and Randy Johnson overshadowing him for much of his time in Seattle. I think we'll be done with closers in the Hall for a good long time once Mariano Rivera and Trevor Hoffman get in, and I'd honestly be surprised if Edgar is in by that point. I think he'll still be on the ballot when I finally get a vote in 9 years. (Jay Jaffe's Hall of Fame Special) |
| 2012-01-09 13:00:00 | Hey Jay. I was having a conversation with some friends and we were wondering whether the current iteration of the Red Sox has any Hall of Famers on it. What do you think? Also, if you haven't addressed this already, Posada: yes or no? Thanks for the chat! (mattymatty2000 from Portland, OR) | There's nobody who's a lock, that's for sure. Youkilis doesn't even have 1,000 hits yet, let alone the era's de facto minimum of 2,000. Ortiz has the PED connection and the DH problem. Varitek doesn't even have Posada's credentials. Pedroia and Ellsbury have the potential but they're still mostly potential as far as building cases go - they don't even have good peak scores yet.
Late note: I completely forgot about Adrian Gonzalez, who has three straight seasons of at least 6.0 WARP and doesn't turn 30 until May - he's got a stronger JAWS-based case than Pedroia so far. H/T to Cliff Corcoran for pointing out the omission.
Sad to say, the recent Red Sock who might have been building the best case for the Hall of Fame might be the guy who got away, Jonathan Papelbon, in that - much as I loathe him - he's got the talent to wind up better than Trevor Hoffman, if not Mariano Rivera. Still a looooong ways to go on that front, too. (Jay Jaffe's Hall of Fame Special) |
| 2012-01-30 13:00:00 | Do you lend any credence to the thought Neftali Feliz is forever ruined because of game 6 of the 2011 WS? (SDILincoln from Colorado) | No, I don't think I do. These reactions are so individualistic. Mark Wohlers was never the same after Jim Leyritz, but Mariano Rivera bounced back just fine from Sandy Alomar. There is nothing inevitable about Feliz's aftermath. (Steven Goldman) |
| 2011-09-20 13:00:00 | Jay,
If a player's career ended after the 2011 season (compared to if his career had ended a year earlier), who most significantly raised his chances of eventually making it into the Hall of Fame? I'm just asking for conversational purposes -- no need to generate JAWS scores. (Detroit Michael from Detroit, MI) | Jim Thome reaching the 600-homer plateau, with all of the extra attention it brought him, probably sealed the deal. And of course now Mariano Rivera has the saves record, so he's obviously in ;-) (Jay Jaffe) |
| 2011-04-25 13:00:00 | Hi Marc, thanks for the chat. I'm wondering if I should trade Prince + Dexter Fowler for Mariano Rivera + Mike Stanton? My current closers are Joe Nathan (yikes) and Brian Wilson. Along with Prince, I have Votto + A-Roid at the corners...in a H2H points league...Thanks (cbelford from Chicago) | So, you're not using Prince at all? (Marc Normandin) |
| 2011-04-05 13:00:00 | Steve,
I know this site has been advocating using teams' best relievers in high leverage situations.
Has there ever been any consideration to using them earlier in games? For example, you see a lot of managers use their 5th or 7th(if you're TLR) worse relievers in the 6th innning of a game they trail 2-1. Would it not be better to put some of your best relievers into the game at that point to keep the deficit at one, and allow the offense to score some runs?
As opposed to letting your worse reliever give up two runs to the heart of the order in the 6th, and significantly reduce their teams chances of winning. (SaberTJ from Cleveland, OH) | Yes, although it's a complicated proposition because there are some natural limits on how you use those best relievers. EVERY game has its high-leverage situations, but you can't use, say, Mariano Rivera every game. Those lesser pitchers are necessary to spread out the workload, and that means that a perfectly leveraged bullpen is impossible. However, if managers chose to eschew the closer in just a few three-run, soft-save situations so that the guy could pitch the sixth now and again, it would be possible to get closer to the mark. One other problem: the moment that Famous Closer gets pounded pitching earlier than the ninth, the idiot media will jump on the manager with both feet and a ham sandwich.
This is the quietest chat in my nearly eight years at BP. Let's have some chatter out there! (Steven Goldman) |
| 2011-03-24 13:00:00 | Your opinion on the biggest issue of the spring, Mariano Rivera's high socks? (Pounded Clown from 3RF) | I'm a fan of the high socks in general (or, as Rivera has pointed out, regular socks with shorter pants). Of course, if I were superstitious, I would say: you're Mariano Rivera. Why change ANYthing? (Emma Span) |
| 2010-11-11 13:00:00 | How in the world is Mariano Rivera still pitching at a high level at age 40? At this pace, he might be one of the few players to retire while still playing at an all-star level. (Billy from New York) | The man throws a helluva cutter, doesn't he? This could go on for a while. With a guy like that, it seems like an injury will have to be what stops him and that could still be a few years away. (Matt Swartz) |
| 2010-10-20 13:00:00 | On Girardi for a second, was I the only Yankees fan who was a little nervous that he WOULD leave? Look, I hate some of his in-game management but he has constructed a very successful bullpen our of scraps in three straight years. He doesn't fall into small ball traps as often as other prestigious managers (Maddon) and, at the very least, he has an open mind about unorthodox maneuvering.
I'm not Girardi's biggest fan but I still feel oddly comfortable with him. (Adam from NY) | The bullpen rebuilding thing is a big point in his favor. That's a real skill. After Mariano Rivera, you know how many relievers Joe Torre established in 13 years? Scott Proctor? Maybe? Girardi has broken in more pitchers in three seasons than the old man did in more than a decade. I also appreciate his being willing to bat a power-hitter second, be it Swisher or Granderson. Tactically he's not all there, but few managers these days are John McGraw. On the whole, I think he's positive, even if in other aspects of his thinking, like closer usage and those bloody IBBs, he's too conventional. (Steven Goldman) |
| 2010-10-14 13:00:00 | Why did Jonathon Broxton help ruin my fantasy team's chance at a 3-peat this year? Can you see him bouncing back next year? Which is a better Nintendo cover band, the NESkimos or Power Glove? (jnelson33 from Office Desk) | I just got off the phone with Jonathan Broxton, and he told me it's because he doesn't like you. He also said he doesn't like me, and wanted to ruin my fantasy closer rankings. Then he said something about not having a "closer's mentality", and how he think he left it in some pants that were stolen from him at the laundry mat.
I think he can bounce back, but I've learned my lesson to rely on a closer that isn't Mariano Rivera, Heath Bell, Joakim Soria or Brian Wilson at the top spot in my rankings. Or anyone named Jonathan. (Marc Normandin) |
| 2010-10-07 13:00:00 | TBS solution: 1. Turn the volume on your television all the way down. 2. Listen to ESPN radio's broadcast. For example, Jon Miller & Orel Hershiser called the Yankees-Twins game last night. Listening to Miller's description of Mariano Rivera as "The Great Rivera" is worth it alone. (jasonbradleymill from Tucson) | I bought MLB At Bat for my BlackBerry this season and have gotten every bit of my $14.95 worth out of it. I like listening to the home team announcers because you pick up a lot of interesting tidbits. (John Perrotto) |
| 2010-08-26 13:00:00 | D'oh! Addendum: Care to expand on your praise of Heath Bell, Mike Adams, and Luke Gregerson, and add lauds and exultates for Joe Thatcher and Edward Mujica? (Functionary from Grey Cubicle, DC) | Joe Thatcher missed the beginning of the season, but in the 27 1/3 innings since he's returned, he's held lefties to a line of .149/.212/.255. Mujica is a beast in the K/BB department as I said. He's given up some homers but seems to have that little problem under control lately, and is flat out dominant at times despite being a back-end option.
Bell walks some hitters sometimes, but most of the hits against him are dinky singles, and he can bring it and whiffs plenty of batters. The only closer I trust more than Bell is Mariano Rivera. Luke Gregerson and Mike Adams would be closing for most of the other teams in baseball--even when Gregerson walks batters he's an ace reliever, but this year he's got the walks under control. This is not a Petco bullpen, this is a pen full of really, really good pitchers. (Marc Normandin) |
| 2010-08-02 13:30:00 | Joakim Soria is on pace to shatter the saves record by a mile. If he stays healthy, does he become the best closer the game has seen? (carlosrubi from México) | As great as the Mexicutioner has been, he's got a long way to go from 118. Even if Trevor Hoffman doesn't make it to 600 (he's at 596 and counting), Mariano Rivera's at 548. Picking anybody to deliver 10 straight 43-save save seasons just to catch Mo seems like a bit of a dodgy proposition, because of the number of things (or injuries) that might happen in the intervening time. (Christina Kahrl) |
| 2010-05-14 13:00:00 | Who gets into the HOF on the first ballot with a higher percentage of votes, Mariano Rivera or Derek Jeter? I think even those voters with anti-closer bias are going to agree with Mo's inclusion, eh? Tough call. (tommybones from brooklyn) | I don't think I'm going out too far on a limb by saying that either of these guys could challenge Tom Seaver's 98.84% record vote. The closer thing is more likely to work against Mo, but any writer who doesn't think both of those two are Hallworthy should be considered a fraud. (Jay Jaffe) |
| 2010-05-14 13:00:00 | Do you think there's any chance Joba ever makes it back into the rotation? Given his demeanor on the mound (he seems to always be max-effort and very emotional), does it even make sense any more? (Jeff from NYC) | While Brian Cashman would surely deny it if asked point blank, I suspect that this spring's decision to move him to the bullpen is the first step in the direction of making him the heir apparent to Mariano Rivera. (Jay Jaffe) |
| 2010-03-26 13:00:00 | Crystal ball--i.e. wild guess--time. 10-15 years from now, what will we be saying about the careers of Joba and Hughes? (Timo from An hour north of Yankee Stadium) | Hey, Timo! Thanks for dropping by.
A decade from now, I think folks will be talking about how well Hughes adapted to the rotation thanks to that cutter he learned from Mariano Rivera, and how for awhile there, Chamberlain gave the Royals a decent 1-2 punch with Greinke before he got hurt and went south. (Jay Jaffe) |
| 2009-12-17 13:00:00 | "but the players you mention have been about as good at what they do as Tiger has at what he does" Really? Tiger is probably the greatest golfer who has ever played. His ten year stretch of dominance is basically unprecedented. I don't see how any of the players mentioned (or for that matter anyone in any sport) have had a 00s that comes even close to that. There have been other great hitters/relievers/pitchers in other decades ya know. (Alex from SF, CA) | Like I said, it's difficult if not impossible to compare team vs. individual sports, but both Alex Rodriguez and Albert Pujols have shots at breaking Barry Bonds' all-time home run record and winding up as arguably the best player ever at their position. Mariano Rivera already is, without argument, the best at his, and has been so for a stunningly long time and in particular, when the heat was at its hottest (the postseason) -- though it's admittedly a lesser accomplishment than being an everyday player or even a starter. (Jay Jaffe) |
| 2009-12-17 13:00:00 | What will become of Phil Hughes? Help me Obi Wan!! (norcal from slopes) | Hughes will go back to the rotation armed with the cut fastball he learned from Mariano Rivera - the reason he become so dominant in relief in 2009 - and will establish himself as an above-average major league starter. (Jay Jaffe) |
| 2009-10-28 14:00:00 | You picked Yankees over Phillies in your chat before the playoffs started. So far so good! Do you still think the Yankees will win? (The Flying Bernard from Acton, MA) | Thank you for noticing - I'd almost forgotten that in the wake of having gotten the NLCS call wrong.
I do think the Yankees will win; I picked them in six games in today's preview based upon the depth of their lineup, the experience of their rotation in working on three days' rest, the way their lefty starters match up with the Phillies' lefty hitters and vice versa, and the presence of Mariano Rivera. (Jay Jaffe) |
| 2009-10-23 16:00:00 | What is the current thinking on the magnitude of a manager's impact on regular season victories? For example, the Reds won 78 games in 2009. What realistically could have been expected of the team with Dusty Baker replaced? (BBBill from Hamilton, Ohio) | It's a very slippery slope here because one's evaluation of managers would need to use something other than personal opinions on which pitchers are brought into games. I tend to think that managers will impact 1-3 games in a season. I don't think Dusty was the difference between the Reds winning 78 or 88 games this season. Then again, if you attribute his handling of Volquez, Harang and Cueto to injuries or reduced effectiveness, the impact could be greater. Suffice to say, there are a lot of factors that go into something like this and too many people tend to focus primarily on the pitching change or lineup construction aspect. Unless you are bringing in Adam Eaton to replace Mariano Rivera, or completely avoiding platoon splits and things of that nature, a lot of it is common sense. And if you don't have a lot of weapons, that is more on the GM/Owner than the manager. (Eric Seidman) |
| 2009-09-02 13:00:00 | Mariano Rivera is easily one of the best _(#?)_ players in history at any position. When all is said and done he'll probably be considered one of the _(#?)_ best and may be the _(#?)_ best ever (motivated to ask by all the hagiographies going around this past season). Thanks! (Tony from Brooklyn, NY) | He is the best closer in history, best reliever, too, but let's not confuse 45-50 IP/yr with 700 PAs and defense to boot, regardless of the importance of the 9th inning. (Eric Seidman) |
| 2009-09-02 13:00:00 | K, let's try the inverse. Probably _(#?)_ starters in MLB history could have replicated the career success that Mariano Rivera has in his role. Pedro, Clemens, Randy Johnson, et al are all good examples (?). (Tony from Brooklyn, NY) | Again, this is an apples to oranges comparison wrapped inside a hypothetical impossible to answer. If you really want an inverse, how about this - if Rivera was a starter, whose career would his replicate? It's much harder to do what Pedro, Clemens and Johnson have done than it is to log 50 high pressure innings a season. Rivera is the best closer and reliever of all time, but he is not better than the most valuable starters. (Eric Seidman) |
| 2009-06-24 13:00:00 | I didn't think I'd need to spell it out: what is Mariano Rivera's number? (Ken from NY) | Yes, nine of you just entered that. D'oh. And I don't think it's lame at all.
...My kids' babysitter just asked me if I'd heard anything good about "Transformers 2." I sobbed. (Steven Goldman) |
| 2009-04-28 13:00:00 | The Yankees have a gaggle of arms between Mariano Rivera down to Melancon and Roberston. What kind of operation can't get at least average production over the season after casting a net that wide? (Tony from Brooklyn, NY) | That's a great question. It just goes to show you that spending more money than everyone else doesn't ensure that you can be the perfect club. (John Perrotto) |
| 2009-04-16 13:00:00 | The Mariano Rivera "Nothing But Class" Career Achievement Award (dianagramr from NYC) | I was thinking more performance based, but we'll take whatever. (Marc Normandin) |
| 2008-12-05 14:00:00 | Nicky's Vietnamese sandwiches? You should try Hanco's. What are the chances that the Mets actually have 5-6 HOFers right now: Wright, Reyes, Beltran, Johan... Delgado, Wagner? (Dan from Brooklyn) | Thanks for the tip. No on Delgado or Wagner; the former doesn't have enough great seasons under his belt (just four 8.0+ WARP seasons), the latter's elbow issues plus the eventual comparisons to Mariano Rivera and Trevor Hoffman will doom his candidacy. (Jay Jaffe) |
| 2008-10-24 14:00:00 | It seems like there are no players on either team who are already good Hall of Fame candidates (though guys like Utley, Upton, etc. have time to qualify.) Can you ever remember a Series without such an established veteran star? (oira61 from San Francisco) | Wow, that's a good question, one that pretty much ties into what I was saying a couple of days ago about how rare it is to get two fresh teams facing off in the series for the first time in awhile. Add to that the fact that both teams are dominated by younger guys whose best days may still be ahead of them and you wind up with a situation like this. I'm jogging my memory and looking back over the WS matchups and thinking that we've hit a real stumper. At the time, people wondered aloud if the 1998 Yankees would yield a Hall of Famer, but now it's apparent that Mariano Rivera and Derek Jeter will make it if nobody else does, to say nothing of Tony Gwynn from the opposite dugout.
The 1982 matchup maybe - at the time it certainly wasn't apparent that Ozzie Smith, Robin Yount, Paul Molitor or Don Sutton would make it (Sutton would win 60-something more games in the majors), adn Rollie Fingers was sidelined too. Definitely a question to sock away for future pondering. (Jay Jaffe) |
| 2008-10-20 13:00:00 | Steven, please give us an analogy for the use of David Price in that spot. What other player with such limited experience appeared in such a high-leverage role, successful or unsuccessful? (oira61 from San Francisco) | I was mildly reminded of Buck Showalter suddenly discovering that Mariano Rivera was a great reliever during the 1995 ALDS. (Steven Goldman) |
| 2008-09-16 13:00:00 | "Why did I know that when Yost didn't?" We have been saying that here for years! Mostly regarding the management of the bullpen, is there any reason at all for his ineptness at it? (Adam from Milwaukee) | He's just your typical manager, or below average in that department? I've often said that bullpen construction is probably the hardest job for a GM because of the randomness of reliever performance. Managers face some of the same challenges, trying to catch lightning in a bottle with five out of six relievers or even six out of six if they don't have a Mariano Rivera-type closer. The one thing I've thought Girardi did well this year was get away from his original bullpen alignment and figure out alternatives. If that's a trick he can repeat, he can be an asset to an organization as manager or pitching coach or something, because I think most of them aren't all that good at it. I haven't tried to document, but I think Tony LaRussa is one of the ones who is good at it... (Steven Goldman) |
| 2008-06-20 13:30:00 | Does Trevor Hoffman deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Mariano Rivera? (Seymour from Brooklyn) | Sure, you're talking about the two best one-inning closers ever. Rivera is better, as much because of his massive body of postseason work, but it's no insult to compare the two. We may dismiss Hoffman because he holds a record that isn't terribly meaningful; we shouldn't, he's been a great player and will be a legitimate Hall of Famer. (Joe Sheehan) |
| 2008-03-26 12:00:00 | Hey Bryan,
Standard 5x5 league, I have Giambi, Sexson, Vernon Wells, and Andrew MIller on my bench/extra pitcher. I only have marmol, tony pena, and brian wilson as RP's. DO you think I should make a trade with those big four on the bench for someone like rivera, wagner, or nathan? Thanks Bryan. (SnakeDoctor18 from Washington DC) | Sure, but do you think you have enough to get it done. I mean, assuming it isn't a keeper league, does the guy with Mariano Rivera accept Richie Sexson, Andrew Miller and Brian Wilson for him? I guess it depends on his team, but I'm not so sure. Then again, I'm just backing my way back into rotisserie. (Bryan Smith) |
| 2008-01-10 13:00:00 | Joe, I think Bernie Williams might be someone who is overrated because he was on the Yankees and won titles. (JKGaucho from DC) | There's absolutely no evidence that being on particular team helps you in the BBWAA voting. Cardinals, Giants and Yankees are overrepresented in the Hall of Fame because the Hall wasn't bright enough to do away with the Veterans Committee once it had served the purpose of catching early-baseball players and the backlog of qualified 20th-century candidates.
Bernie Williams is a Hall of Famer to me, although I admit I may be too close to it. Postseason performance does matter, and it matters more now in the era of three-level playoffs. Williams, Mariano Rivera, John Smoltz and Curt Schilling are just a few of the players whose resumes are stronger than a JAWS-flavored analysis would indicate. (Joe Sheehan) |
| Date | Roundtable Name | Comment |
|---|---|---|
| 2009-11-02 17:00:00 | 2009 WS Game Five | Will, given the matchups (.400ish OBP vs. lefties) I'd want as little high-leverage Gaudin as possible. The reason he's on the roster is to sponge a couple of innings in a blowout loss, not as a bridge to Mariano Rivera in a win. (Jay Jaffe) |
| 2009-10-16 13:00:00 | NLCS Game Two/ALCS Game One | Shaun P. (Medway, MA): Jay, I was as surprised as you to see Torre deviate last week with Broxton - and I have no idea how often he did this season or last - but it will take a lot more than a couple of deviations to convince me he's changed. Not saying its not possible, just that I'm incredibly skeptical. Steven, I think he should have pulled Kershaw when he was laboring - but since he didn't, I'm not surprised he left Sherrill in too. Actually I wasn't surprised at the Broxton move at all. I know he did it twice this year, once in late April (backed by Will Ohman) and once in late August (Sherrill). Plus he brought Broxton in for a 4 or 5 out save several times as well, just as he did with Mariano Rivera in the Bronx. I've said my piece about last night but bullpenwise, there are managers with much less flexibility than Joe. (Jay Jaffe) |
| 2009-10-12 15:00:00 | Phillies/Rockies Playoffs Roundtable | But not Mariano Rivera! (Steven Goldman) |
| 2008-10-13 17:00:00 | NLCS Game Four | Victorino on the road this year, .272/.316/.405. Torre is just awful when he has to think about how to use his bullpen. Every single time. If the path isn't as clear as Mike Stanton to Jeff Nelson to Mariano Rivera he gets lost. (Steven Goldman) |
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