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December 9, 2010

Winter Meetings

Rule Five Wrap-Up

by Kevin Goldstein

Just some quick notes from this morning's rule five draft.  I'll have more detailed reports on many of these players in a Ten Pack on Monday with my prediction of the selections most likely to stick.

  • Pirates: Josh Rodriguez, UT (from Cleveland): One of the best players in that "Older, Triple-A Guy" category.  Rodriguez can play second and third at the big league level, shortstop in a pinch, and even some corner outfield.  He doesn't have a plus tool, but he has enough patience and gap power to stick.
  • Mariners: Jose Flores, RHP (from Cleveland): Venezuelan right-hander has above-average velocity and pounds the strike zone, but has never pitched above Low-A and big leagues would be a shocking jump.
  • Diamondbacks: Joe Paterson, LHP (from San Francisco): Will never impress on a stuff level; but has plenty of deception with lefties have real trouble picking up the ball while htting .216 against him in 2010.
  • Orioles: Adrian Rosario, RHP (from Brewers): Long-limbed and projectable relief type with impressive stuff; but also a player who had trouble throwing strikes in Low-A.
  • Royals: Nathan Adcock, RHP (from Pirates): Ex-Mariner who went to Pittsburgh in the Snell/Wilson deal; Throws downhill, throws strikes and is a heady pitcher, but not much in the way of stuff.
  • Nationals: Elvin Ramirez, RHP (from Mets): One of the talks of the Dominican Winter League with 26 strikeouts and just four walks in 20.2 innings for Cibao; Plus-plus velocity, but no previous history of throwing strikes consistently.
  • Cubs: Mason Tobin, RHP (from Angels): Thick right-hander showed plenty of promise early in career, but has been consistently waylaid by injuries since, including Tommy John surgery in 2009. When healthy, he could touch 95 mph and had an advanced changeup.
  • Astros: Anuery Rodriguez, RHP (from Rays): Thought to be in the Pirates mix for the top pick, Rodriguez was another player who helped his stock in the Dominican with a series of dominating starts for the Toros del Este.  On a scouting level, he has few weaknesses or strengths as an average across the board type.
  • Brewers: Patrick Egan, RHP (from Orioles): With the combination of a six-foot-eight frame and fantastic sink, he's put up some ridiculous ground ball rates, but an inability to miss bats gives some scouts pause as to his ability to succeed in the big leagues.
  • Mets: Brad Emaus, UT (from Blue Jays): Kind of a lesser version of the top pick Rodriguez, only with no shortstop ability (not that Rodriguez is good there, either). Ceiling only of nice bench player, but might be there now.
  • Padres: George Kontos, RHP (from Yankees): Moved to the bullpen in 2010 after some arm injuries; has size and velocity, but not much else.
  • Twins: Scott Diamond, LHP (from Braves): Thought to be going to the Nationals (he had a fan in Roy Clark); Diamond has been described as a gutsy battler with plenty of poise on the mound, which is how scouts talk around the fact that he throws strikes but doesn't really have an out pitch.
  • Yankees: Robert Fish, LHP (from Angels): The best combination of left-handedness and velocity available, Fish has a plus-plus fastball for a southpaw, but it's straight, he can't command it, and he doesn't have a second pitch.
  • Rays: Cesar Cabral, LHP (from Red Sox): Long, left-handed and gets those of his ilk out; but has yet to solve High-A and is highly inconsistent.
  • Phillies: Michael Martinez, UT (from Nationals): Small, fast Dominican has very aggressive approach at the plate but can surprise with gap power; biggest value comes defensively, as he's playable at six positions.
  • Nationals: Brian Broderick, RHP (from Cardinals): Six-foot-six righty combines sink with nearly super-natural command; but that's the sum of his abilities as secondary pitches lag behind.
  • Astros: Lance Pendleton, RHP (from Yankees): Overshadowed in the Yankees system, but a solid prospect with back-of-the-rotation possibilities; Average-to-plus velocity with deception and a strong power curveball has led to success at every level.
  • Mets: Pedro Beato, RHP (from Orioles): Five years later, the Mets finally get their man after failing to sign him out of the 2005 draft; stuff is still well below draft-level, but he found some consistency and success this year as a two-pitch reliever.
  • Yankees: Daniel Turpen, RHP (from Red Sox): Reliever with low-90s sinker finished strong in Arizona Fall League with eight straight scoreless appearances; most entertaining rumor of the day involves the Yankees selected him as a jab at Boston, with Turpen thought to be on the list of potential PTBNLs to San Diego in the Adrian Gonzalez deal.

Kevin Goldstein is an author of Baseball Prospectus. 
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frampton
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Rosario was picked by the Orioles (from the Brewers).

Dec 09, 2010 09:33 AM
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CRP13

Pendleton is probably already one of the Astros' top 3 starter prospects.

Dec 09, 2010 09:34 AM
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buffum
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How disappointed should I be that the Indians didn't take a hack at picking Marquez Smith from the Cubs? He looks like at LEAST as good a bet as Nix, Hodges, or anyone other than Chisenhall (who is VERY unlikely to be ready Opening Day).

Dec 09, 2010 09:34 AM
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APV2600

Chisenhall won't see Cleveland till September. I agree with you in wishing the Indians had given Smith a $50k tire-kicking, though.

Dec 09, 2010 10:29 AM
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BP staff member Kevin Goldstein
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When you take a guy like Smith, you have just one option. it's 3B or bust. These other infielders offer tons of flexibility.

Dec 09, 2010 11:56 AM
 
buffum
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Since Cleveland has no 3B, it seems like they're already busted. At least Smith can actually play the position.

Dec 09, 2010 12:11 PM
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djbrown

Texas then traded for Tobin, right?

Dec 09, 2010 09:59 AM
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BP staff member Kevin Goldstein
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Correct. They were on Tobin in his draft year and just missed him.

Dec 09, 2010 11:57 AM
 
Morris Greenberg

I think Joe Paterson is spelled with 1 t. Could be wrong though.

Dec 09, 2010 10:07 AM
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BillJohnson

Thanks, Kevin. Any comments on the AAA or (brief) AA phases? Also, any dogs that didn't bark? Were you expecting anyone to get taken who didn't?

Dec 09, 2010 10:18 AM
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KerryFam4

The Yankees picked twice. These guys will have to be on the major league roster or the ML DL or offered back to the team they chose them from, right? Hard to see the Yankees having two roster spots to spare for Rule 5 guys. I don't imagine the Turpen pick will wind up as much of a jab if they have to offer him back to Boston at a $25K loss.

Dec 09, 2010 10:24 AM
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Mike H
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No, the 40-man.

Dec 09, 2010 10:35 AM
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stuckinLF

No, the 25-man Major League roster (plus DL). If they want to send them back to the minors, they have to offer them back to their original team for half the claiming price ($25K), or work out other considerations.

Dec 09, 2010 10:56 AM
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Bmiles

On the Cubs' Marquez Smith, Cleveland already was at 40 on their 40-man roster, so they could not participate in the Rule 5 draft.

Dec 09, 2010 11:35 AM
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APV2600

You can drop a player anytime, so they could have added him had they wanted. The roster freeze is on protecting players.

Dec 09, 2010 11:46 AM
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buffum
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Right.

Look at it this way: would you trade Luis Valbuena for Marquez Smith? I sure would. (Justin Germano, Shelley Duncan, etc.)

Dec 09, 2010 12:14 PM
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APV2600

I would not trade Luis Valbuena for Marquez Smith. Valbuena is younger and only a year removed from actually being a good player at the major league level. As horrendous as 2010 was, I need to see it one more time before I give up on him.

Dec 09, 2010 12:38 PM
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Zach

Any thoughts on Tim Collins not getting picked up? I assumed that someone would throw him in their bullpen as a situational lefty or is the size issue just too big for him to overcome?

Dec 09, 2010 13:06 PM
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Josh Sklar

Not to be a downer but I don't think he's eligible until next years draft.

Dec 09, 2010 22:56 PM
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Eric M. Van

Kevin, Cabral's first three weeks / six outings in high-A were every bit as spectacular as his low-A performance: 6 H, 1 BB, 14 K in 12.1 IP. Then he fell apart. So the level change seems to be irrelevant; he just needs to recover what he had during the first half to be able to make the Rays.

Dec 09, 2010 19:18 PM
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