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March 9, 2010

Under The Knife

Spring Injury Roundup

by Will Carroll

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It's the first UTK of the season. Normally, I do these on Fridays during spring training, but there was just too much misinformation out there on a couple of these cases to wait for the end of the week. I'm excited about another season—my ninth!—of doing UTK, a run that will cross the 1,000-column mark sometime in May. As always, I'm trying to be better at it, to get you the information you want in a readable, understandable way. To help, I'm making a few changes. My continued quest for a quick way to put an expected return date shifts now to what you'll see below. After the player's name, you'll see the condition and the ERD. The ERD is a very, very, very rough guess, based on the best information at the time. It's designed to be more of a "quick look" than a definitive time frame, so it will change from day to day if the information has changed or if a team gives better guidance. I think having the condition readily available will help as well for those of you that just skim UTK.

You'll also see UTK comments shifting over to the player cards as part of the new format. That functionality is still being worked on, so don't count on it being 100 percent just yet. We're also rolling out ways to get the information I get out to you faster. Those aren't ready yet, but believe me, the work behind the scenes is happening and yes, we're listening. Finally, while I appreciate questions in comments, I'm going to tend to ignore them this year. Too often, it turned into "what about this guy?" I'm not going to cover every single injury. I'm going to focus on the ones where I can add to the discussion. If you want exhaustive coverage (rather than an exhausted Injury Guy), try our friends at Rotowire, who do that very well. This year I'm going to focus on explanation and education, something I hope you'll help me share. So, powered by the excitement of another season together, on to the injuries:
 

Jose Reyes (thyroid: 3/20)
Let's face it, this is the Mets, and after last year nothing is going to be taken at face value. Reyes was found to have a thyroid hormone imbalance during the course of normal tests in comparison to previous tests. He was already running and doing baseball activities, but because this was a condition that could affect him and because of that long shadow of medical dysfunction that still hangs over the team, they went conservative. Reyes was held out of activities and then sent back to New York for further testing and to determine a treatment. In most cases, the thyroid situation can be taken care of with medication. In extreme cases, surgery or a more aggressive medication is necessary. Reyes showed no symptoms of the condition, normally called Graves' disease, and seemed to have no problem through his rehab from hamstring problems. There's nothing here that seems to have any long-term consequences. Speaking with several doctors who have knowledge of both thyroid conditions and athletic performance, including some that worked with Florence Griffith-Joyner (who suffered from the condition), indicate that the only issue might be with adjusting to medication. Joyner often complained that her medication made her "feel slower" and early in her career, would go off her medication before competitions, according to several reports from the mid-'80s. While Joyner often faced the kind of PED accusations that Reyes is now hearing, she never failed a drug test, and her autopsy showed that a congenital brain defect caused her death, not drugs as many still think. What Reyes faces is an adjustment, not a problem.

Joe Nathan (torn UCL: unknown)
Nathan had chips removed from his elbow. If you've read my column before or heard me talking about Johan Santana recently, you'll know this is usually not a big deal. Honestly, the operation isn't that different from "Operation." You know, the game wherethe surgeon reaches in with his scope, grabs the chips, pulls it out, and hopefully the nose doesn't light up. (Actually, it's a bit more brutal than you'd expect: you can watch a typical procedure here.) Nathan's chips had actually lodged into the UCL, the "Tommy John" ligament, and were causing inflammation. Now, we have to wonder if the damage they were doing was already done. It's odd, since as the chips were being taken out, the ligament would be visualized and we assume was intact. That means the mere act of removing the chips changed something, and soon after a return, the ligament snapped. It recalls the case of A.J. Burnett, who had spurs removed and shortly afterwards had to have TJS. It's not a complete tear (or rupture), and the Twins will give Nathan a chance to try and rehab it, but in almost all cases, he'll end up with that iconic triangular scar on his elbow and a lost season on his record.

Alex Gordon (fractured thumb: 4/1)
Headfirst slides actually aren't more dangerous. Back in the initial days of UTK, we found out together1 that studies done on collegiate softball players indicated that while more people broke fingers on headfirst slides, the broken ankles of footfirst slides equalled things out. That said, Alex Gordon doesn't feel very good about his decision. As you'll hear Wednesday on BP Radio, there's a new glove technology that might have helped him avoid this. Gordon's fracture is at the tip of the thumb, above the joint but not under the nail. As breaks go, that's not a bad one. He'll be splinted to protect it, but can keep his cardio going and do many of the exercises he'd normally do. While the 3-4 week timeframe is solid, it's possible that Gordon is ready for opening day. The location of the fracture makes it less involved in the grip, meaning his bat control shouldn't be affected. Gordon has a lot of questions heading into 2010, so while this injury doesn't help, he should still get the chance to answer those questions in April.

Russell Martin (groin strain: 4/1)
The initial stories about Martin's injuries all went the same direction. Whether you were reading ESPN Los Angeles or the LA Times, whether you were reading MLB.com or the blogs, there was an underlying implication that Martin might be dealing with a hip problem rather than a groin. The femoral acetabular impingement problem often presents as groin pain, so it's understandable. What I don't get is how so many different places went the same direction. That means someone, somewhere pointed them in that direction. Fact is, Martin simply tried to play through what he thought was a minor problem and couldn't. It's a simple Grade I/II strain2, painful, but not a long-term problem. It does put the Dodgers in a tough situation, since Brad Ausmus would be exposed by extended playing time. Martin should be nearly ready by opening day since all indications are that he'll push for that and since this is on the lower end of the spectrum.

Angel Guzman (torn shoulder ligament, labrum: unknown)
Guzman is no stranger to surgery. Jim Andrews did both his elbow (TJS) and shoulder (labrum) previously, but there might not be anything that anyone can do this time. With a torn ligament and damaged capsule, Guzman is facing the end of his career. There's no guarantee that surgery could get him back, leaving him and the Cubs with a tough decision. Take the chance on surgery and an extended rehab or try to work through it. Since Guzman's going to be on  the Cubs' dime either way, there's every reason to think he'll work towards some kind of comeback. This is a problem that doesn't really have any known root cause, which makes it all the tougher to pinpoint. Guzman simply couldn't stay healthy, at any level, in any role. That's not his fault; it's just how the game works sometimes. While it's hard to just throw your hands up and say, "I don't know," that's all we can do. We don't have enough information to do any more, but perhaps that's the real issue.

Brian Roberts (herniated disc in lower back: 3/17)
Kidney stones are painful. I mean really painful, knee-bucklingly so. I'm sure at some level Roberts is glad that's not what he has, but a herniated disc isn't better. While the team can calm things down, this is something that can easily recur if it gets exacerbated. That's why the Orioles are being so conservative with him early in camp. Roberts is taking some swings and will progress slowly to game action. Any pain or setbacks will push them to be even more conservative. There's still plenty of time for him to get ready and opening day is certainly within reach for him. There's a bigger question about how this might affect his speed and range. I think the steals will be down early in the season as the conservatism is in place. The longer he goes without a recurrence the better and the more likely he'll begin running as normal. (On a cool note, former BP Idol contestant Brittany Ghiroli is following this situation in her new job as the Orioles' beat writer at MLB.com. She's an honorary medhead for the solid coverage and great questions she's asking.)

Emmanuel Burriss (broken foot: unknown)
It's not often that a team admits it's going to medicate a player. Sure, painkillers are used and appropriate medications like anti-inflammatories are well noted. Burriss is going to do something that hasn't been done ... or at least admitted. The Giants are "throwing the kitchen sink" at the problem, according to head ATC Dave Groeschner in this Chronicle article. Burriss will have injections of Forteo, a drug normally used for post-menopausal osteoporosis. (Go ahead, recycle those Manny Ramirez jokes from last summer.) Forteo was rumored to be used several years ago as the A's tried to get Mark Mulder back for the playoffs. This kind of approach tells you just how seriously the Giants are taking the task of keeping Burriss' foot together. It also shows just how close he is to having his career end because of the chronic problem.

Mark DeRosa (torn tendon sheath in wrist: 3/20)
While Rickie Weeks might be a bit ahead, more should be watching to see how DeRosa comes back from the same surgery. He had surgery last fall and was expected to miss much or even all of spring training. Instead, DeRosa is ahead of schedule and thinking he could make his Giantsdebut as early as next week. DeRosa has had no problems at all in his rehab and says he's feeling great. Observers who watched him hit said they saw nothing different in his swing and noted that he was not hesitant at all. This is all a good sign and if we get a look at him in spring games, the key will be to see if he's lost any power or has any residual inflammation after use. Watch out here becausethe story will be that he's ahead of schedule, but the important fact will be that he doesn't have pain and/or inflammation between outings.

Cameron Maybin (groin strain: 3/15)
Bases are dangerous. While breakaway bases have come into play in many youth leagues, it's still an issue for some major leaguers. We saw it with Gordon and the Marlins are worried a bit about Maybin. Maybin strained his groin—look, please don't say "tweak" about groins—when he stepped awkwardly on third as he rounded it. A speed player always worries about a muscle strain in his legs, but word is that this is minor and the Marlins are just being cautious with their presumed starting center fielder. I'm not overly concerned about this in the long term, but since so much of Maybin's value is in his legs, I do want to see him running before giving the green light. Expect him to be dialed back for about a week, then brought back conservatively.

Quick Cuts: Kelvim Escobar has shut things down and has no plans to throw again in the foreseeable future. Play my song. ... Brandon Lyon is "way off pace" after having a cyst drained in his pitching shoulder. He may have to start the season on the DL. ... The entire Rodriguez family has pink eye, but none of the Mets do. The way the team handled Francisco Rodriguez looks smart now. He's been throwing on his own. ... Joel Hanrahan's sore elbow matched up with Octavio Dotel's strained oblique means the Pirates' pen plans have already gone awry. Evan Meek could be the beneficiary if neither is back for the start of the season. ... Josh Hamilton is expected to start playing on Monday. The shoulder is said to be "no big deal", though everything's a big deal with Hamilton. ... Daisuke Matsuzaka threw "all his pitches" in a pen session and will move to game action next. Of course "all" just means four of them these days. ... Hearing that Xavier Nady will start the season on the DL as he continues to come back from TJS. ... Kevin Slowey is showing no problems with his surgically repaired wrist. ... Jair Jurrjens will make his spring debut on Thursday, well ahead of expectations after his early spring shoulder issue.

Notes
1 I always like to think that UTK is a learning journey that we're both on. Just let me believe that, ok?
2 I/II strain? Yes, this is slightly new terminology. It indicates a strain that grades in between a I and II. It's what used to be referred to as a I+. I feel like the new terminology is clearer and will standardize on it.

Related Content:  Back,  The Who,  Groin,  Year Of The Injury,  Headfirst

28 comments have been left for this article. (Click to hide comments)

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dianagram

I for one hail our new UTK formatting/return date overlords.
Numbered footnotes ... cool!

Mar 09, 2010 09:51 AM
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BillJohnson

Thanks for getting this up so early in the week, and I agree, the format looks good. Nothing on Albert Pujols' sore back?

Mar 09, 2010 10:16 AM
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SaberTJ

Let me add the answer that could be used for all Pujols' aches and pains. "He'll play through it and be the best hitter in the game regardless"

Mar 09, 2010 10:48 AM
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BP staff member Will Carroll
BP staff

"Finally, while I appreciate questions in comments, I'm going to tend to ignore them this year. Too often, it turned into "what about this guy?" I'm not going to cover every single injury. I'm going to focus on the ones where I can add to the discussion." :)

I'm working on Pujols.

Mar 09, 2010 10:49 AM
 
Lopecci

I love the quick cuts section. I wish that could be a full on piece !!! Thanks Will

Mar 09, 2010 10:49 AM
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BP staff member Will Carroll
BP staff

How so?

Mar 09, 2010 10:54 AM
 
hessshaun

Even though it's not medically fascinating like the top section, it's still relevant. The reason you do this is because of the complete disconnect with injuries and how they are relayed to the fan.

I enjoy the condensed format. There is no other place on the internet where I can read that Evan Meek could be the man, Slowey needs to be watched because of his wrist, and Jurrjens is back. I don't have time to hit the news wire for all three teams. It's priceless.

Mar 10, 2010 08:02 AM
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apbadogs

(Actually, it's a bit more brutal than you'd expect: you can watch a typical procedure here.)

Could....not....look!

Mar 09, 2010 11:42 AM
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cyborg

I think ignoring comments is doing a disservice to your readers. I understand you might not have any new information on some injuries or players situations but to say you will flat out ignore comments asking about specific players not covered is not the right message to send to loyal readers.

What I actually like about your articles is that you don't just regurgitate the MLB notes like some other "sports injury authors". So, telling your readers to go read the notes isn't much of a benefit. They probably are already doing that anyway.

Mar 09, 2010 12:16 PM
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BP staff member Will Carroll
BP staff

I'm not ignoring -- we're working on ways so I can get information out there. I think email, twitter, etc work well. Also, I do this EVERY day. If there's a big enough question, it gets addressed the next day.

Mar 09, 2010 12:42 PM
 
cyborg

If you will not ignore them, you shouldn't write that "I'm going to tend to ignore them this year".

I appreciated the responses in the comments last year on specific players that were not covered because I often had a similar question. Would you really rather have people e-mail you so you have to answer the same question over and over?

All I'm saying is that I think you should reconsider your policy for this year because I think the comments section provides a valuable resource for readers.

Mar 09, 2010 13:29 PM
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BP staff member Will Carroll
BP staff

Tend. Keyword is tend. I would much rather have discussion here, like the Reyes comment below, than a bunch of "what about this guy?"

Mar 09, 2010 17:11 PM
 
chuckmotl

I think we should be able to rate BP Authors' comments, too.

Mar 09, 2010 15:41 PM
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gluckschmerz

Either that or no ratings for any comment.

I really enjoy the comments section, but some would like to bully others into silence or reduce the significance of their comments by labeling them as being below some arbitrary threshold of acceptability.

The comments section is certainly no place for vulgarity or personal attacks. But when is the last time a *below threshold* comment was really offensive.

Contrariness is not offensive, neither is being disagreeable. Isn't BP supposed to be a forum for ideas?

Mar 10, 2010 04:33 AM
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vertumnus

I see comments like this with some degree of regularity. I think they come from a misunderstanding of the +/- ratings, or at least a different understanding than I have.

As I understand it - If a comment is offensive to you, you should click the "inappropriate?" link, which alerts a BP moderator. Giving a "+" to a comment indicates agreement with the comment, and a "-" indicates disagreement, not necessarily disapproval or scorn.

I enjoy seeing the ratings for comments - it gives a rough sense of how popular/prevalent a belief or idea is.

I do agree that it's lame to hide comments that fall below -4 (or whatever the threshold is), and I can say that I always unhide a hidden comment and read it when looking at the comments section. Are there people out there who don't read hidden comments? I wish there was at least an account option that would disable the hiding of comments.

Mar 10, 2010 07:52 AM
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hessshaun

I think they should have a forum. I am not talking about a place that's the wild wild west where every Tom, Dick, and Harry can post, I am talking a place that can link to articles and spur some more discussion. Blogs could link to them as well and we could comment there.

It would make this more of a community that could be segregated into sub sections where everyone is happy. It would turn this place from sweet to killer in no time flat if it's implemented correctly.

Mar 11, 2010 16:23 PM
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Michael Bodell
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I agree that ignoring comments is horrible, since that has last year often been nearly as valuable as the main column when the questions get answered.

However, I'm optimistic for two reasons. One, I'm not sure Will will be able to ignore comments because he seems like such a frequent responder and pays attention to his column that I'll bet he'll tend to answer comment questions if there is anything at all of value to add more often than not. And two, I'm optimistic that the player card information referred to will help. Often times people ask about a player because they care about him (as a fan or fantasy person) and haven't heard anything about him in the past 3 weeks. And maybe they missed a comment by will 5 days ago about him. If that is captured on the players card they'll go there.

I know UTK will be read by me a lot as 2 of my 13 keepers in AL scoresheet are Brian Roberts and Joe Nathan and health is already being unkind to my team. Injuries certainly matter a lot to both real baseball and the fantasy variety!

Mar 10, 2010 22:07 PM
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ZacharyRD

I'd appreciate a link to the softball baserunning study you referenced. Thanks.

Mar 09, 2010 13:21 PM
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Lopecci

I just seen on Rotoworld that Jose Reyes could be out for a month with his Thyroid condition. That seems like an awfully long time? I have a thyroid condition (overactive), and the medicine they gave me started working really quickly. From some of the reading I have done, everyone has different reactions to an overactive thyroid. I thought I was having panic attacks for about a year or so. My heart would flutter like crazy. One other symptom, that could be bothering Reyes, is that it can cause you to stare for no reason. (Graves Disease). The medicine they gave me was tapazole & propranalol(sp). The side effects I have noticed since taking the medicine is I feel tired alot, and I gained weight. My thinking was that, he might be out a couple weeks, to allow the medicine to start working. I've been taking this medicine for over a year now, so it isn't a matter of normalizing his thyroid quickly, maybe they're saying a month because of the side effects its causing him? Just thought I would share my experience with everyone.

Mar 09, 2010 16:46 PM
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Lopecci

As for the "quick cuts" section, maybe you could make that your blog or part of your blog? Or, similar to Rotoworld, they put out a daily dose column, that is similar to your quick cuts section. I was thinking you could make that an article all in itself. I look forward to that section of UTK, just like I look forward to looking at box scores everyday. Can't wait to read it!!!

Mar 09, 2010 16:51 PM
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geraldmburris

Olympic champ Gail Devers also has Graves' disease. If she and Flo-Jo end up being Reyes' comps, I think he'll be in good shape on the basepaths. :-)

Mar 09, 2010 18:06 PM
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kerrigrr

What specifically is the connection between thyroid imbalance and PED's that so many folks keep alluding to? Lots of people in my family have thyroid issues and none of them are taking HGH, so when I first started hearing the conjecture surrounding Reyes' tests, I was confused. Is it just a case of a jaded public jumping to conclusions or is there something to this?

Mar 09, 2010 18:32 PM
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BP staff member Will Carroll
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It's tough to make a one-to-one comparison. It's my understanding that someone with a thyroid condition would have contraindications for HGH therapy. (HGH is legally used for anti-aging.) It's not the reverse. That said, there's very, very little specific research in this area.

Mar 09, 2010 19:36 PM
 
AirSteve01

I think the mental leap is this:

-If you're taking HGH (as is sometimes done to treat hypothyroidism, or low thyroid production), sometimes the thyroid gland becomes overactive and you get hyperthyroidism (the gland is now producing too much thyroid). If this happens, you're supposed to stop taking HGH.

-Jose Reyes was recently questioned by the FBI regarding his treatments by a doctor who was busted for smuggling HGH in from Canada.

-Jose Reyes currently has unacceptably high thyroid.


At this point, thought paths diverge.

Option A: It's all a big coincidence.

Option B: Hmmmmm.....

Mar 11, 2010 15:28 PM
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gaucho777

Is that really a typical surgery? I mean, the doctors seem so rough with the patient. This is a common reaction I've had to other operation videos (I've seem people vacuum car rugs with more sensitivity than your average liposuction doctor). Not that I've seen a lot of surgeries, but they always seem poke and tug and scape with more vigor than I would expect. And damn that was a big bone chip, no? He could barely get it out of the incision.

Mar 09, 2010 22:08 PM
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BP staff member Will Carroll
BP staff

Yeah, it is. I actually picked one of the more gentle, less bloody ones.

Mar 10, 2010 11:19 AM
 
Mod518

Any word on how Reyes is reacting to the medication? Do you expect Reyes or Beltran to return first?

Mar 21, 2010 19:46 PM
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Nailfan

Will,
Some follow-up on Reyes would be appreciated. I understand you can't follow every player every day, but the news about Reyes has been very confusing and contradictory and he is of high interest for those of us with fantasy drafts.

Mar 21, 2010 21:23 PM
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